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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you be a little clearer on who you heard this information from. Is it from the parent who hates FCV, from another parent, from a coach at FCV, or just an idea that popped into your head because you thought it would be interesting to stir the pot with unsubstantiated rumors? Maybe you right?


well, aren't you just an angry ball of hate?

Ask FCV; this comes from a director of another club here in town. I am sure they got the same email. Is there a way to share screenshots on here? I am happy to share what I received but can't seem to find a way to embed it.

Or since you can't seem to respond without such aggression, maybe just wait for the GA to publically announce it, then be thankful this is an anonymous forum so you don't look as silly.



Correct me if I am wrong, but a team can still qualify through regular season play, correct? It would be really sad that the players who stayed at FCV get penalized for the actions of those who left before the end this past year and refused to travel. Would they really keep a team from going if the team could show the quality of play to be there?


Yes they qualify for the following season through regular season play - that's how Champions Cup is. Fall 2023/Spring 2024 Final Club Standings = Fall 2024/Spring 2025 Season Champions Cup. so if what was said is true, FCV would have to re-earn Champions Cup next season but they wouldn't get it until the 2025/2026 season.

It’s actually not that big a deal to be in Champions Cup. All of the Champions Cup events are also showcases, so any team U15+ can go. They won’t miss out on anything.


If you don't know what you're talking about, please don't say anything.

It is a big deal because if your team doesn't make the GA playoffs, this is a major recruiting event. The more you go to, the more opportunities your DD will have to be seen by the college she wants to go to.

Champions Cup events are NOT showcases, Winter Showcase determines seeding for Spring Champions Cup tournament. The championship games determines 1st and 2nd place, the 3rd place match determines 3rd and 4th overall, etc. etc., all the way down to the 15th/16th match.

Only 16 clubs can attend plus (4) wild cards in U14 - U19 - so again not any team can go.


The event in December is absolutely a showcase. It's literally called Winter Showcase & Champions Cup. https://girlsacademyleague.com/winter-showcase/

Yes, the Spring Champions Cup tournament in March in FL is Champions Cup only. But, there is another event the next month called Spring Showcase in NC which is for all the non-Champions Cup teams. https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Click on the attending scouts list you'll see it's just as well attended by college coaches as the Champions Cup only event the month before.

None of the champions cup teams go to both the March and April events. So, all teams have the same number of opportunities to play in national events. Champions cup teams play in December, March, and June. Non-Champions cup teams play in December, April, and June. The June event is the playoffs for teams that qualify, but also a Showcase for teams that don't. Non-Champions Cup teams have the exact same number of national events as Champions Cup teams, at the exact same complexes and fields.

Clubs are counting on gullible parents like you to fall for the Champions Cup marketing. Colleges recruit players not teams at these events. All of the games are at the same complex. College coaches do not care if the team is in Champions Cup.


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Here is the schedule with 60 non-champions club teams that somehow managed to attend your Champions Club only event in FL in December https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/27835/schedules?group=237504

Champions Club designation only matters to clubs to help their marketing


Well first off it wasn't in FL in December, so you're already starting off wrong.

The winter showcase and champions cup are two different events held at the same place at the same time - i know that might be a hard concept to grasp but it happens. Just look at the schedule it's clearly posted that there is a U15 Champions Cup and U15 Showcase - different teams, different schedules.

Show me where any of those showcase teams played in Florida in March? I'll wait


Do you even listen to yourself? You admit it was at the same place, at the same time. That means that teams that are in champions cup have the exact same opportunity to be watched by college coaches at the event in December. The college coaches do not know or care that the player they are watching on field 17 at 2pm is playing in the Champions Cup but the player on that same field at 4pm is in the Showcase.

You are correct that the showcase teams did not play in Florida in March. But they did all play at the showcase in April https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Show me where any of the champions cup teams played in North Carolina in April. I'll wait.

You said that champions cup gives a team an advantage for college recruiting because they have more opportunities to play in front of college scouts. That is just wrong. Champions Cup teams have two events (Dec and March). Non-Champions cup also have two events (Dec and April). All of them are equally attended by college scouts.





NEFC and City SC come to mind. Hope you didn't wait too long.



Their B teams, same as multiple other clubs. The level was low in NC compared to years past for GA.


They don't have "B" teams in the GA. Only a few clubs have more than one (e.g., Lonestar, Nationals) in the GA.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you be a little clearer on who you heard this information from. Is it from the parent who hates FCV, from another parent, from a coach at FCV, or just an idea that popped into your head because you thought it would be interesting to stir the pot with unsubstantiated rumors? Maybe you right?


well, aren't you just an angry ball of hate?

Ask FCV; this comes from a director of another club here in town. I am sure they got the same email. Is there a way to share screenshots on here? I am happy to share what I received but can't seem to find a way to embed it.

Or since you can't seem to respond without such aggression, maybe just wait for the GA to publically announce it, then be thankful this is an anonymous forum so you don't look as silly.



Correct me if I am wrong, but a team can still qualify through regular season play, correct? It would be really sad that the players who stayed at FCV get penalized for the actions of those who left before the end this past year and refused to travel. Would they really keep a team from going if the team could show the quality of play to be there?


Yes they qualify for the following season through regular season play - that's how Champions Cup is. Fall 2023/Spring 2024 Final Club Standings = Fall 2024/Spring 2025 Season Champions Cup. so if what was said is true, FCV would have to re-earn Champions Cup next season but they wouldn't get it until the 2025/2026 season.

It’s actually not that big a deal to be in Champions Cup. All of the Champions Cup events are also showcases, so any team U15+ can go. They won’t miss out on anything.


If you don't know what you're talking about, please don't say anything.

It is a big deal because if your team doesn't make the GA playoffs, this is a major recruiting event. The more you go to, the more opportunities your DD will have to be seen by the college she wants to go to.

Champions Cup events are NOT showcases, Winter Showcase determines seeding for Spring Champions Cup tournament. The championship games determines 1st and 2nd place, the 3rd place match determines 3rd and 4th overall, etc. etc., all the way down to the 15th/16th match.

Only 16 clubs can attend plus (4) wild cards in U14 - U19 - so again not any team can go.


The event in December is absolutely a showcase. It's literally called Winter Showcase & Champions Cup. https://girlsacademyleague.com/winter-showcase/

Yes, the Spring Champions Cup tournament in March in FL is Champions Cup only. But, there is another event the next month called Spring Showcase in NC which is for all the non-Champions Cup teams. https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Click on the attending scouts list you'll see it's just as well attended by college coaches as the Champions Cup only event the month before.

None of the champions cup teams go to both the March and April events. So, all teams have the same number of opportunities to play in national events. Champions cup teams play in December, March, and June. Non-Champions cup teams play in December, April, and June. The June event is the playoffs for teams that qualify, but also a Showcase for teams that don't. Non-Champions Cup teams have the exact same number of national events as Champions Cup teams, at the exact same complexes and fields.

Clubs are counting on gullible parents like you to fall for the Champions Cup marketing. Colleges recruit players not teams at these events. All of the games are at the same complex. College coaches do not care if the team is in Champions Cup.


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Here is the schedule with 60 non-champions club teams that somehow managed to attend your Champions Club only event in FL in December https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/27835/schedules?group=237504

Champions Club designation only matters to clubs to help their marketing


Well first off it wasn't in FL in December, so you're already starting off wrong.

The winter showcase and champions cup are two different events held at the same place at the same time - i know that might be a hard concept to grasp but it happens. Just look at the schedule it's clearly posted that there is a U15 Champions Cup and U15 Showcase - different teams, different schedules.

Show me where any of those showcase teams played in Florida in March? I'll wait


Arguing about Champion Cup vs non-champions cup events and which one is "better" is asinine. How "good" an event is for college recruiting is determined at the INDIVIDUAL player level (it will be different for every player on the team and club) - if my DD wants to go to Ohio State, or Alabama or Stanford - the "best" tournament is the tournament that those coaches are going to be at - it doesn't matter if it's GA Championship Cup, GA Playoffs, Winter Showcase, Spring Showcase, etc.


If you don't think the level of teams playing (and hence the players) greatly impacts the number (and level) of college coaches watching games, then we can't help you.


What does the number or level of colleges at any event matter to me as a parent if my DD doesn't want to go to any of those schools?

If my DD wants to the University of Whatever and they're going to be at the less prestigious Tournament B then i want our team to go to Tournament B and I don't care that there is going to be over 300 college coaches at Tournament A


You are 100% correct. I would venture a guess that most, however, would shoot for the larger number/high quality schools route versus the individually targeted school option. But yes, if your specific kid only wants X school and they are at Showcase B, then that's more appropriate for you for sure. Though if your kid is targeting one particular school, unless you have some hook there, I think you'll be disaapointed in the outcome of that plan.


I'll tell that to my older DD that graduated and went to college on a 75% athletic (soccer) scholarship, thanks for the sage wisdom you've forever opened my eyes
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you be a little clearer on who you heard this information from. Is it from the parent who hates FCV, from another parent, from a coach at FCV, or just an idea that popped into your head because you thought it would be interesting to stir the pot with unsubstantiated rumors? Maybe you right?


well, aren't you just an angry ball of hate?

Ask FCV; this comes from a director of another club here in town. I am sure they got the same email. Is there a way to share screenshots on here? I am happy to share what I received but can't seem to find a way to embed it.

Or since you can't seem to respond without such aggression, maybe just wait for the GA to publically announce it, then be thankful this is an anonymous forum so you don't look as silly.



Correct me if I am wrong, but a team can still qualify through regular season play, correct? It would be really sad that the players who stayed at FCV get penalized for the actions of those who left before the end this past year and refused to travel. Would they really keep a team from going if the team could show the quality of play to be there?


Yes they qualify for the following season through regular season play - that's how Champions Cup is. Fall 2023/Spring 2024 Final Club Standings = Fall 2024/Spring 2025 Season Champions Cup. so if what was said is true, FCV would have to re-earn Champions Cup next season but they wouldn't get it until the 2025/2026 season.

It’s actually not that big a deal to be in Champions Cup. All of the Champions Cup events are also showcases, so any team U15+ can go. They won’t miss out on anything.


If you don't know what you're talking about, please don't say anything.

It is a big deal because if your team doesn't make the GA playoffs, this is a major recruiting event. The more you go to, the more opportunities your DD will have to be seen by the college she wants to go to.

Champions Cup events are NOT showcases, Winter Showcase determines seeding for Spring Champions Cup tournament. The championship games determines 1st and 2nd place, the 3rd place match determines 3rd and 4th overall, etc. etc., all the way down to the 15th/16th match.

Only 16 clubs can attend plus (4) wild cards in U14 - U19 - so again not any team can go.


The event in December is absolutely a showcase. It's literally called Winter Showcase & Champions Cup. https://girlsacademyleague.com/winter-showcase/

Yes, the Spring Champions Cup tournament in March in FL is Champions Cup only. But, there is another event the next month called Spring Showcase in NC which is for all the non-Champions Cup teams. https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Click on the attending scouts list you'll see it's just as well attended by college coaches as the Champions Cup only event the month before.

None of the champions cup teams go to both the March and April events. So, all teams have the same number of opportunities to play in national events. Champions cup teams play in December, March, and June. Non-Champions cup teams play in December, April, and June. The June event is the playoffs for teams that qualify, but also a Showcase for teams that don't. Non-Champions Cup teams have the exact same number of national events as Champions Cup teams, at the exact same complexes and fields.

Clubs are counting on gullible parents like you to fall for the Champions Cup marketing. Colleges recruit players not teams at these events. All of the games are at the same complex. College coaches do not care if the team is in Champions Cup.


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Here is the schedule with 60 non-champions club teams that somehow managed to attend your Champions Club only event in FL in December https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/27835/schedules?group=237504

Champions Club designation only matters to clubs to help their marketing


Well first off it wasn't in FL in December, so you're already starting off wrong.

The winter showcase and champions cup are two different events held at the same place at the same time - i know that might be a hard concept to grasp but it happens. Just look at the schedule it's clearly posted that there is a U15 Champions Cup and U15 Showcase - different teams, different schedules.

Show me where any of those showcase teams played in Florida in March? I'll wait


Arguing about Champion Cup vs non-champions cup events and which one is "better" is asinine. How "good" an event is for college recruiting is determined at the INDIVIDUAL player level (it will be different for every player on the team and club) - if my DD wants to go to Ohio State, or Alabama or Stanford - the "best" tournament is the tournament that those coaches are going to be at - it doesn't matter if it's GA Championship Cup, GA Playoffs, Winter Showcase, Spring Showcase, etc.


If you don't think the level of teams playing (and hence the players) greatly impacts the number (and level) of college coaches watching games, then we can't help you.


What does the number or level of colleges at any event matter to me as a parent if my DD doesn't want to go to any of those schools?

If my DD wants to the University of Whatever and they're going to be at the less prestigious Tournament B then i want our team to go to Tournament B and I don't care that there is going to be over 300 college coaches at Tournament A


You are 100% correct. I would venture a guess that most, however, would shoot for the larger number/high quality schools route versus the individually targeted school option. But yes, if your specific kid only wants X school and they are at Showcase B, then that's more appropriate for you for sure. Though if your kid is targeting one particular school, unless you have some hook there, I think you'll be disappointed in the outcome of that plan.


I'll tell that to my older DD that graduated and went to college on a 75% athletic (soccer) scholarship, thanks for the sage wisdom you've forever opened my eyes


I said good for you. But your experience is going to very different from most. You're the exception and not the rule. And congrats to your DD - that's great for her (and you).
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you be a little clearer on who you heard this information from. Is it from the parent who hates FCV, from another parent, from a coach at FCV, or just an idea that popped into your head because you thought it would be interesting to stir the pot with unsubstantiated rumors? Maybe you right?


well, aren't you just an angry ball of hate?

Ask FCV; this comes from a director of another club here in town. I am sure they got the same email. Is there a way to share screenshots on here? I am happy to share what I received but can't seem to find a way to embed it.

Or since you can't seem to respond without such aggression, maybe just wait for the GA to publically announce it, then be thankful this is an anonymous forum so you don't look as silly.



Correct me if I am wrong, but a team can still qualify through regular season play, correct? It would be really sad that the players who stayed at FCV get penalized for the actions of those who left before the end this past year and refused to travel. Would they really keep a team from going if the team could show the quality of play to be there?


Yes they qualify for the following season through regular season play - that's how Champions Cup is. Fall 2023/Spring 2024 Final Club Standings = Fall 2024/Spring 2025 Season Champions Cup. so if what was said is true, FCV would have to re-earn Champions Cup next season but they wouldn't get it until the 2025/2026 season.

It’s actually not that big a deal to be in Champions Cup. All of the Champions Cup events are also showcases, so any team U15+ can go. They won’t miss out on anything.


If you don't know what you're talking about, please don't say anything.

It is a big deal because if your team doesn't make the GA playoffs, this is a major recruiting event. The more you go to, the more opportunities your DD will have to be seen by the college she wants to go to.

Champions Cup events are NOT showcases, Winter Showcase determines seeding for Spring Champions Cup tournament. The championship games determines 1st and 2nd place, the 3rd place match determines 3rd and 4th overall, etc. etc., all the way down to the 15th/16th match.

Only 16 clubs can attend plus (4) wild cards in U14 - U19 - so again not any team can go.


The event in December is absolutely a showcase. It's literally called Winter Showcase & Champions Cup. https://girlsacademyleague.com/winter-showcase/

Yes, the Spring Champions Cup tournament in March in FL is Champions Cup only. But, there is another event the next month called Spring Showcase in NC which is for all the non-Champions Cup teams. https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Click on the attending scouts list you'll see it's just as well attended by college coaches as the Champions Cup only event the month before.

None of the champions cup teams go to both the March and April events. So, all teams have the same number of opportunities to play in national events. Champions cup teams play in December, March, and June. Non-Champions cup teams play in December, April, and June. The June event is the playoffs for teams that qualify, but also a Showcase for teams that don't. Non-Champions Cup teams have the exact same number of national events as Champions Cup teams, at the exact same complexes and fields.

Clubs are counting on gullible parents like you to fall for the Champions Cup marketing. Colleges recruit players not teams at these events. All of the games are at the same complex. College coaches do not care if the team is in Champions Cup.


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Here is the schedule with 60 non-champions club teams that somehow managed to attend your Champions Club only event in FL in December https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/27835/schedules?group=237504

Champions Club designation only matters to clubs to help their marketing


Well first off it wasn't in FL in December, so you're already starting off wrong.

The winter showcase and champions cup are two different events held at the same place at the same time - i know that might be a hard concept to grasp but it happens. Just look at the schedule it's clearly posted that there is a U15 Champions Cup and U15 Showcase - different teams, different schedules.

Show me where any of those showcase teams played in Florida in March? I'll wait


Do you even listen to yourself? You admit it was at the same place, at the same time. That means that teams that are in champions cup have the exact same opportunity to be watched by college coaches at the event in December. The college coaches do not know or care that the player they are watching on field 17 at 2pm is playing in the Champions Cup but the player on that same field at 4pm is in the Showcase.

You are correct that the showcase teams did not play in Florida in March. But they did all play at the showcase in April https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Show me where any of the champions cup teams played in North Carolina in April. I'll wait.

You said that champions cup gives a team an advantage for college recruiting because they have more opportunities to play in front of college scouts. That is just wrong. Champions Cup teams have two events (Dec and March). Non-Champions cup also have two events (Dec and April). All of them are equally attended by college scouts.





NEFC and City SC come to mind. Hope you didn't wait too long.



Their B teams, same as multiple other clubs. The level was low in NC compared to years past for GA.


They don't have "B" teams in the GA. Only a few clubs have more than one (e.g., Lonestar, Nationals) in the GA.


You clearly aren't aware of what is going on. The GA has had clubs bringing their B teams who play in DPL to quite a few events to appease certain clubs.

They also invited a bunch of clubs to the NC showcase who are lower level than many GA clubs B teams, so there is that too. Just go look at the brackets, see for yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you be a little clearer on who you heard this information from. Is it from the parent who hates FCV, from another parent, from a coach at FCV, or just an idea that popped into your head because you thought it would be interesting to stir the pot with unsubstantiated rumors? Maybe you right?


well, aren't you just an angry ball of hate?

Ask FCV; this comes from a director of another club here in town. I am sure they got the same email. Is there a way to share screenshots on here? I am happy to share what I received but can't seem to find a way to embed it.

Or since you can't seem to respond without such aggression, maybe just wait for the GA to publically announce it, then be thankful this is an anonymous forum so you don't look as silly.



Correct me if I am wrong, but a team can still qualify through regular season play, correct? It would be really sad that the players who stayed at FCV get penalized for the actions of those who left before the end this past year and refused to travel. Would they really keep a team from going if the team could show the quality of play to be there?


Yes they qualify for the following season through regular season play - that's how Champions Cup is. Fall 2023/Spring 2024 Final Club Standings = Fall 2024/Spring 2025 Season Champions Cup. so if what was said is true, FCV would have to re-earn Champions Cup next season but they wouldn't get it until the 2025/2026 season.

It’s actually not that big a deal to be in Champions Cup. All of the Champions Cup events are also showcases, so any team U15+ can go. They won’t miss out on anything.


If you don't know what you're talking about, please don't say anything.

It is a big deal because if your team doesn't make the GA playoffs, this is a major recruiting event. The more you go to, the more opportunities your DD will have to be seen by the college she wants to go to.

Champions Cup events are NOT showcases, Winter Showcase determines seeding for Spring Champions Cup tournament. The championship games determines 1st and 2nd place, the 3rd place match determines 3rd and 4th overall, etc. etc., all the way down to the 15th/16th match.

Only 16 clubs can attend plus (4) wild cards in U14 - U19 - so again not any team can go.


The event in December is absolutely a showcase. It's literally called Winter Showcase & Champions Cup. https://girlsacademyleague.com/winter-showcase/

Yes, the Spring Champions Cup tournament in March in FL is Champions Cup only. But, there is another event the next month called Spring Showcase in NC which is for all the non-Champions Cup teams. https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Click on the attending scouts list you'll see it's just as well attended by college coaches as the Champions Cup only event the month before.

None of the champions cup teams go to both the March and April events. So, all teams have the same number of opportunities to play in national events. Champions cup teams play in December, March, and June. Non-Champions cup teams play in December, April, and June. The June event is the playoffs for teams that qualify, but also a Showcase for teams that don't. Non-Champions Cup teams have the exact same number of national events as Champions Cup teams, at the exact same complexes and fields.

Clubs are counting on gullible parents like you to fall for the Champions Cup marketing. Colleges recruit players not teams at these events. All of the games are at the same complex. College coaches do not care if the team is in Champions Cup.


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Here is the schedule with 60 non-champions club teams that somehow managed to attend your Champions Club only event in FL in December https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/27835/schedules?group=237504

Champions Club designation only matters to clubs to help their marketing


Well first off it wasn't in FL in December, so you're already starting off wrong.

The winter showcase and champions cup are two different events held at the same place at the same time - i know that might be a hard concept to grasp but it happens. Just look at the schedule it's clearly posted that there is a U15 Champions Cup and U15 Showcase - different teams, different schedules.

Show me where any of those showcase teams played in Florida in March? I'll wait


Do you even listen to yourself? You admit it was at the same place, at the same time. That means that teams that are in champions cup have the exact same opportunity to be watched by college coaches at the event in December. The college coaches do not know or care that the player they are watching on field 17 at 2pm is playing in the Champions Cup but the player on that same field at 4pm is in the Showcase.

You are correct that the showcase teams did not play in Florida in March. But they did all play at the showcase in April https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Show me where any of the champions cup teams played in North Carolina in April. I'll wait.

You said that champions cup gives a team an advantage for college recruiting because they have more opportunities to play in front of college scouts. That is just wrong. Champions Cup teams have two events (Dec and March). Non-Champions cup also have two events (Dec and April). All of them are equally attended by college scouts.





NEFC and City SC come to mind. Hope you didn't wait too long.



Their B teams, same as multiple other clubs. The level was low in NC compared to years past for GA.


They don't have "B" teams in the GA. Only a few clubs have more than one (e.g., Lonestar, Nationals) in the GA.


You clearly aren't aware of what is going on. The GA has had clubs bringing their B teams who play in DPL to quite a few events to appease certain clubs.

They also invited a bunch of clubs to the NC showcase who are lower level than many GA clubs B teams, so there is that too. Just go look at the brackets, see for yourself.


Across all four age groups, there were 9 total DPL teams. Perhaps a handful of other non-GA teams, but the remaining (vast majority) were all their GA teams, which you can clearly see from the both the participating teams master list as well as the brackets themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you be a little clearer on who you heard this information from. Is it from the parent who hates FCV, from another parent, from a coach at FCV, or just an idea that popped into your head because you thought it would be interesting to stir the pot with unsubstantiated rumors? Maybe you right?


well, aren't you just an angry ball of hate?

Ask FCV; this comes from a director of another club here in town. I am sure they got the same email. Is there a way to share screenshots on here? I am happy to share what I received but can't seem to find a way to embed it.

Or since you can't seem to respond without such aggression, maybe just wait for the GA to publically announce it, then be thankful this is an anonymous forum so you don't look as silly.



Correct me if I am wrong, but a team can still qualify through regular season play, correct? It would be really sad that the players who stayed at FCV get penalized for the actions of those who left before the end this past year and refused to travel. Would they really keep a team from going if the team could show the quality of play to be there?


Yes they qualify for the following season through regular season play - that's how Champions Cup is. Fall 2023/Spring 2024 Final Club Standings = Fall 2024/Spring 2025 Season Champions Cup. so if what was said is true, FCV would have to re-earn Champions Cup next season but they wouldn't get it until the 2025/2026 season.

It’s actually not that big a deal to be in Champions Cup. All of the Champions Cup events are also showcases, so any team U15+ can go. They won’t miss out on anything.


If you don't know what you're talking about, please don't say anything.

It is a big deal because if your team doesn't make the GA playoffs, this is a major recruiting event. The more you go to, the more opportunities your DD will have to be seen by the college she wants to go to.

Champions Cup events are NOT showcases, Winter Showcase determines seeding for Spring Champions Cup tournament. The championship games determines 1st and 2nd place, the 3rd place match determines 3rd and 4th overall, etc. etc., all the way down to the 15th/16th match.

Only 16 clubs can attend plus (4) wild cards in U14 - U19 - so again not any team can go.


The event in December is absolutely a showcase. It's literally called Winter Showcase & Champions Cup. https://girlsacademyleague.com/winter-showcase/

Yes, the Spring Champions Cup tournament in March in FL is Champions Cup only. But, there is another event the next month called Spring Showcase in NC which is for all the non-Champions Cup teams. https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Click on the attending scouts list you'll see it's just as well attended by college coaches as the Champions Cup only event the month before.

None of the champions cup teams go to both the March and April events. So, all teams have the same number of opportunities to play in national events. Champions cup teams play in December, March, and June. Non-Champions cup teams play in December, April, and June. The June event is the playoffs for teams that qualify, but also a Showcase for teams that don't. Non-Champions Cup teams have the exact same number of national events as Champions Cup teams, at the exact same complexes and fields.

Clubs are counting on gullible parents like you to fall for the Champions Cup marketing. Colleges recruit players not teams at these events. All of the games are at the same complex. College coaches do not care if the team is in Champions Cup.


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Here is the schedule with 60 non-champions club teams that somehow managed to attend your Champions Club only event in FL in December https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/27835/schedules?group=237504

Champions Club designation only matters to clubs to help their marketing


Well first off it wasn't in FL in December, so you're already starting off wrong.

The winter showcase and champions cup are two different events held at the same place at the same time - i know that might be a hard concept to grasp but it happens. Just look at the schedule it's clearly posted that there is a U15 Champions Cup and U15 Showcase - different teams, different schedules.

Show me where any of those showcase teams played in Florida in March? I'll wait


Do you even listen to yourself? You admit it was at the same place, at the same time. That means that teams that are in champions cup have the exact same opportunity to be watched by college coaches at the event in December. The college coaches do not know or care that the player they are watching on field 17 at 2pm is playing in the Champions Cup but the player on that same field at 4pm is in the Showcase.

You are correct that the showcase teams did not play in Florida in March. But they did all play at the showcase in April https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Show me where any of the champions cup teams played in North Carolina in April. I'll wait.

You said that champions cup gives a team an advantage for college recruiting because they have more opportunities to play in front of college scouts. That is just wrong. Champions Cup teams have two events (Dec and March). Non-Champions cup also have two events (Dec and April). All of them are equally attended by college scouts.





NEFC and City SC come to mind. Hope you didn't wait too long.



Their B teams, same as multiple other clubs. The level was low in NC compared to years past for GA.


They don't have "B" teams in the GA. Only a few clubs have more than one (e.g., Lonestar, Nationals) in the GA.


You clearly aren't aware of what is going on. The GA has had clubs bringing their B teams who play in DPL to quite a few events to appease certain clubs.

They also invited a bunch of clubs to the NC showcase who are lower level than many GA clubs B teams, so there is that too. Just go look at the brackets, see for yourself.


Across all four age groups, there were 9 total DPL teams. Perhaps a handful of other non-GA teams, but the remaining (vast majority) were all their GA teams, which you can clearly see from the both the participating teams master list as well as the brackets themselves.


U15 Non-GA Teams (11)
Cincinnati United B
Columbus United
IFA
Indy Premier B
Inter Atlanta
NEFC B
One Knoxville
Rhode Island Surf
Sunrise Soccer Club
Triangle United
West Florida Flames B

U16 Non-GA Teams (13)
Cincinnati United B
Hawaii Rush
IFA
Indy Premier B
Leahi Soccer Club
Long Island SC B
NEFC B
NJ Premier
Rhode Island Surf
Seacost United B
STA B
Triangle United
Tudela FC Los Angeles

U17 Non-GA Teams (14)
Charlotte Development Academy
Columbus United
Hawaii Rush
Indy Premier B
Long Island SC B
NEFC B
Rhode Island Surf
SoCal Elite FC
STA B
STA Mount Olive (C?!)
Sunrise Soccer Club
Tormenta FC
Triangle United
Tudela FC Los Angeles

U19 Non-GA Teams (9)
Charlotte Development Academy
Cincinnati United B
Indy Premier B
Liverpool FC IA SoCal
NEFC B
NJ Premier
Seacoast United B
STA B
West Florida Flames B

47 total non 2023/24 member club teams. There were 215 teams participating per their website, which means that 22% of the entire event was non-GA.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you be a little clearer on who you heard this information from. Is it from the parent who hates FCV, from another parent, from a coach at FCV, or just an idea that popped into your head because you thought it would be interesting to stir the pot with unsubstantiated rumors? Maybe you right?


well, aren't you just an angry ball of hate?

Ask FCV; this comes from a director of another club here in town. I am sure they got the same email. Is there a way to share screenshots on here? I am happy to share what I received but can't seem to find a way to embed it.

Or since you can't seem to respond without such aggression, maybe just wait for the GA to publically announce it, then be thankful this is an anonymous forum so you don't look as silly.



Correct me if I am wrong, but a team can still qualify through regular season play, correct? It would be really sad that the players who stayed at FCV get penalized for the actions of those who left before the end this past year and refused to travel. Would they really keep a team from going if the team could show the quality of play to be there?


Yes they qualify for the following season through regular season play - that's how Champions Cup is. Fall 2023/Spring 2024 Final Club Standings = Fall 2024/Spring 2025 Season Champions Cup. so if what was said is true, FCV would have to re-earn Champions Cup next season but they wouldn't get it until the 2025/2026 season.

It’s actually not that big a deal to be in Champions Cup. All of the Champions Cup events are also showcases, so any team U15+ can go. They won’t miss out on anything.


If you don't know what you're talking about, please don't say anything.

It is a big deal because if your team doesn't make the GA playoffs, this is a major recruiting event. The more you go to, the more opportunities your DD will have to be seen by the college she wants to go to.

Champions Cup events are NOT showcases, Winter Showcase determines seeding for Spring Champions Cup tournament. The championship games determines 1st and 2nd place, the 3rd place match determines 3rd and 4th overall, etc. etc., all the way down to the 15th/16th match.

Only 16 clubs can attend plus (4) wild cards in U14 - U19 - so again not any team can go.


The event in December is absolutely a showcase. It's literally called Winter Showcase & Champions Cup. https://girlsacademyleague.com/winter-showcase/

Yes, the Spring Champions Cup tournament in March in FL is Champions Cup only. But, there is another event the next month called Spring Showcase in NC which is for all the non-Champions Cup teams. https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Click on the attending scouts list you'll see it's just as well attended by college coaches as the Champions Cup only event the month before.

None of the champions cup teams go to both the March and April events. So, all teams have the same number of opportunities to play in national events. Champions cup teams play in December, March, and June. Non-Champions cup teams play in December, April, and June. The June event is the playoffs for teams that qualify, but also a Showcase for teams that don't. Non-Champions Cup teams have the exact same number of national events as Champions Cup teams, at the exact same complexes and fields.

Clubs are counting on gullible parents like you to fall for the Champions Cup marketing. Colleges recruit players not teams at these events. All of the games are at the same complex. College coaches do not care if the team is in Champions Cup.


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Here is the schedule with 60 non-champions club teams that somehow managed to attend your Champions Club only event in FL in December https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/27835/schedules?group=237504

Champions Club designation only matters to clubs to help their marketing


Well first off it wasn't in FL in December, so you're already starting off wrong.

The winter showcase and champions cup are two different events held at the same place at the same time - i know that might be a hard concept to grasp but it happens. Just look at the schedule it's clearly posted that there is a U15 Champions Cup and U15 Showcase - different teams, different schedules.

Show me where any of those showcase teams played in Florida in March? I'll wait


Do you even listen to yourself? You admit it was at the same place, at the same time. That means that teams that are in champions cup have the exact same opportunity to be watched by college coaches at the event in December. The college coaches do not know or care that the player they are watching on field 17 at 2pm is playing in the Champions Cup but the player on that same field at 4pm is in the Showcase.

You are correct that the showcase teams did not play in Florida in March. But they did all play at the showcase in April https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Show me where any of the champions cup teams played in North Carolina in April. I'll wait.

You said that champions cup gives a team an advantage for college recruiting because they have more opportunities to play in front of college scouts. That is just wrong. Champions Cup teams have two events (Dec and March). Non-Champions cup also have two events (Dec and April). All of them are equally attended by college scouts.





NEFC and City SC come to mind. Hope you didn't wait too long.



Their B teams, same as multiple other clubs. The level was low in NC compared to years past for GA.


They don't have "B" teams in the GA. Only a few clubs have more than one (e.g., Lonestar, Nationals) in the GA.


You clearly aren't aware of what is going on. The GA has had clubs bringing their B teams who play in DPL to quite a few events to appease certain clubs.

They also invited a bunch of clubs to the NC showcase who are lower level than many GA clubs B teams, so there is that too. Just go look at the brackets, see for yourself.


Across all four age groups, there were 9 total DPL teams. Perhaps a handful of other non-GA teams, but the remaining (vast majority) were all their GA teams, which you can clearly see from the both the participating teams master list as well as the brackets themselves.


U15 Non-GA Teams (11)
Cincinnati United B
Columbus United
IFA
Indy Premier B
Inter Atlanta
NEFC B
One Knoxville
Rhode Island Surf
Sunrise Soccer Club
Triangle United
West Florida Flames B

U16 Non-GA Teams (13)
Cincinnati United B
Hawaii Rush
IFA
Indy Premier B
Leahi Soccer Club
Long Island SC B
NEFC B
NJ Premier
Rhode Island Surf
Seacost United B
STA B
Triangle United
Tudela FC Los Angeles

U17 Non-GA Teams (14)
Charlotte Development Academy
Columbus United
Hawaii Rush
Indy Premier B
Long Island SC B
NEFC B
Rhode Island Surf
SoCal Elite FC
STA B
STA Mount Olive (C?!)
Sunrise Soccer Club
Tormenta FC
Triangle United
Tudela FC Los Angeles

U19 Non-GA Teams (9)
Charlotte Development Academy
Cincinnati United B
Indy Premier B
Liverpool FC IA SoCal
NEFC B
NJ Premier
Seacoast United B
STA B
West Florida Flames B

47 total non 2023/24 member club teams. There were 215 teams participating per their website, which means that 22% of the entire event was non-GA.


Bro, get a job.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you be a little clearer on who you heard this information from. Is it from the parent who hates FCV, from another parent, from a coach at FCV, or just an idea that popped into your head because you thought it would be interesting to stir the pot with unsubstantiated rumors? Maybe you right?


well, aren't you just an angry ball of hate?

Ask FCV; this comes from a director of another club here in town. I am sure they got the same email. Is there a way to share screenshots on here? I am happy to share what I received but can't seem to find a way to embed it.

Or since you can't seem to respond without such aggression, maybe just wait for the GA to publically announce it, then be thankful this is an anonymous forum so you don't look as silly.



Correct me if I am wrong, but a team can still qualify through regular season play, correct? It would be really sad that the players who stayed at FCV get penalized for the actions of those who left before the end this past year and refused to travel. Would they really keep a team from going if the team could show the quality of play to be there?


Yes they qualify for the following season through regular season play - that's how Champions Cup is. Fall 2023/Spring 2024 Final Club Standings = Fall 2024/Spring 2025 Season Champions Cup. so if what was said is true, FCV would have to re-earn Champions Cup next season but they wouldn't get it until the 2025/2026 season.

It’s actually not that big a deal to be in Champions Cup. All of the Champions Cup events are also showcases, so any team U15+ can go. They won’t miss out on anything.


If you don't know what you're talking about, please don't say anything.

It is a big deal because if your team doesn't make the GA playoffs, this is a major recruiting event. The more you go to, the more opportunities your DD will have to be seen by the college she wants to go to.

Champions Cup events are NOT showcases, Winter Showcase determines seeding for Spring Champions Cup tournament. The championship games determines 1st and 2nd place, the 3rd place match determines 3rd and 4th overall, etc. etc., all the way down to the 15th/16th match.

Only 16 clubs can attend plus (4) wild cards in U14 - U19 - so again not any team can go.


The event in December is absolutely a showcase. It's literally called Winter Showcase & Champions Cup. https://girlsacademyleague.com/winter-showcase/

Yes, the Spring Champions Cup tournament in March in FL is Champions Cup only. But, there is another event the next month called Spring Showcase in NC which is for all the non-Champions Cup teams. https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Click on the attending scouts list you'll see it's just as well attended by college coaches as the Champions Cup only event the month before.

None of the champions cup teams go to both the March and April events. So, all teams have the same number of opportunities to play in national events. Champions cup teams play in December, March, and June. Non-Champions cup teams play in December, April, and June. The June event is the playoffs for teams that qualify, but also a Showcase for teams that don't. Non-Champions Cup teams have the exact same number of national events as Champions Cup teams, at the exact same complexes and fields.

Clubs are counting on gullible parents like you to fall for the Champions Cup marketing. Colleges recruit players not teams at these events. All of the games are at the same complex. College coaches do not care if the team is in Champions Cup.


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Here is the schedule with 60 non-champions club teams that somehow managed to attend your Champions Club only event in FL in December https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/27835/schedules?group=237504

Champions Club designation only matters to clubs to help their marketing


Well first off it wasn't in FL in December, so you're already starting off wrong.

The winter showcase and champions cup are two different events held at the same place at the same time - i know that might be a hard concept to grasp but it happens. Just look at the schedule it's clearly posted that there is a U15 Champions Cup and U15 Showcase - different teams, different schedules.

Show me where any of those showcase teams played in Florida in March? I'll wait


Do you even listen to yourself? You admit it was at the same place, at the same time. That means that teams that are in champions cup have the exact same opportunity to be watched by college coaches at the event in December. The college coaches do not know or care that the player they are watching on field 17 at 2pm is playing in the Champions Cup but the player on that same field at 4pm is in the Showcase.

You are correct that the showcase teams did not play in Florida in March. But they did all play at the showcase in April https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Show me where any of the champions cup teams played in North Carolina in April. I'll wait.

You said that champions cup gives a team an advantage for college recruiting because they have more opportunities to play in front of college scouts. That is just wrong. Champions Cup teams have two events (Dec and March). Non-Champions cup also have two events (Dec and April). All of them are equally attended by college scouts.





NEFC and City SC come to mind. Hope you didn't wait too long.



Their B teams, same as multiple other clubs. The level was low in NC compared to years past for GA.


They don't have "B" teams in the GA. Only a few clubs have more than one (e.g., Lonestar, Nationals) in the GA.


You clearly aren't aware of what is going on. The GA has had clubs bringing their B teams who play in DPL to quite a few events to appease certain clubs.

They also invited a bunch of clubs to the NC showcase who are lower level than many GA clubs B teams, so there is that too. Just go look at the brackets, see for yourself.


Across all four age groups, there were 9 total DPL teams. Perhaps a handful of other non-GA teams, but the remaining (vast majority) were all their GA teams, which you can clearly see from the both the participating teams master list as well as the brackets themselves.


U15 Non-GA Teams (11)
Cincinnati United B
Columbus United
IFA
Indy Premier B
Inter Atlanta
NEFC B
One Knoxville
Rhode Island Surf
Sunrise Soccer Club
Triangle United
West Florida Flames B

U16 Non-GA Teams (13)
Cincinnati United B
Hawaii Rush
IFA
Indy Premier B
Leahi Soccer Club
Long Island SC B
NEFC B
NJ Premier
Rhode Island Surf
Seacost United B
STA B
Triangle United
Tudela FC Los Angeles

U17 Non-GA Teams (14)
Charlotte Development Academy
Columbus United
Hawaii Rush
Indy Premier B
Long Island SC B
NEFC B
Rhode Island Surf
SoCal Elite FC
STA B
STA Mount Olive (C?!)
Sunrise Soccer Club
Tormenta FC
Triangle United
Tudela FC Los Angeles

U19 Non-GA Teams (9)
Charlotte Development Academy
Cincinnati United B
Indy Premier B
Liverpool FC IA SoCal
NEFC B
NJ Premier
Seacoast United B
STA B
West Florida Flames B

47 total non 2023/24 member club teams. There were 215 teams participating per their website, which means that 22% of the entire event was non-GA.


Bro, get a job.



awww, so you make a false claim. Then get shown it's incorrect, and then get upset when someone shows you the correct information?
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you be a little clearer on who you heard this information from. Is it from the parent who hates FCV, from another parent, from a coach at FCV, or just an idea that popped into your head because you thought it would be interesting to stir the pot with unsubstantiated rumors? Maybe you right?


well, aren't you just an angry ball of hate?

Ask FCV; this comes from a director of another club here in town. I am sure they got the same email. Is there a way to share screenshots on here? I am happy to share what I received but can't seem to find a way to embed it.

Or since you can't seem to respond without such aggression, maybe just wait for the GA to publically announce it, then be thankful this is an anonymous forum so you don't look as silly.



Correct me if I am wrong, but a team can still qualify through regular season play, correct? It would be really sad that the players who stayed at FCV get penalized for the actions of those who left before the end this past year and refused to travel. Would they really keep a team from going if the team could show the quality of play to be there?


Yes they qualify for the following season through regular season play - that's how Champions Cup is. Fall 2023/Spring 2024 Final Club Standings = Fall 2024/Spring 2025 Season Champions Cup. so if what was said is true, FCV would have to re-earn Champions Cup next season but they wouldn't get it until the 2025/2026 season.

It’s actually not that big a deal to be in Champions Cup. All of the Champions Cup events are also showcases, so any team U15+ can go. They won’t miss out on anything.


If you don't know what you're talking about, please don't say anything.

It is a big deal because if your team doesn't make the GA playoffs, this is a major recruiting event. The more you go to, the more opportunities your DD will have to be seen by the college she wants to go to.

Champions Cup events are NOT showcases, Winter Showcase determines seeding for Spring Champions Cup tournament. The championship games determines 1st and 2nd place, the 3rd place match determines 3rd and 4th overall, etc. etc., all the way down to the 15th/16th match.

Only 16 clubs can attend plus (4) wild cards in U14 - U19 - so again not any team can go.


The event in December is absolutely a showcase. It's literally called Winter Showcase & Champions Cup. https://girlsacademyleague.com/winter-showcase/

Yes, the Spring Champions Cup tournament in March in FL is Champions Cup only. But, there is another event the next month called Spring Showcase in NC which is for all the non-Champions Cup teams. https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Click on the attending scouts list you'll see it's just as well attended by college coaches as the Champions Cup only event the month before.

None of the champions cup teams go to both the March and April events. So, all teams have the same number of opportunities to play in national events. Champions cup teams play in December, March, and June. Non-Champions cup teams play in December, April, and June. The June event is the playoffs for teams that qualify, but also a Showcase for teams that don't. Non-Champions Cup teams have the exact same number of national events as Champions Cup teams, at the exact same complexes and fields.

Clubs are counting on gullible parents like you to fall for the Champions Cup marketing. Colleges recruit players not teams at these events. All of the games are at the same complex. College coaches do not care if the team is in Champions Cup.


100%

Here is the schedule with 60 non-champions club teams that somehow managed to attend your Champions Club only event in FL in December https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/27835/schedules?group=237504

Champions Club designation only matters to clubs to help their marketing


Well first off it wasn't in FL in December, so you're already starting off wrong.

The winter showcase and champions cup are two different events held at the same place at the same time - i know that might be a hard concept to grasp but it happens. Just look at the schedule it's clearly posted that there is a U15 Champions Cup and U15 Showcase - different teams, different schedules.

Show me where any of those showcase teams played in Florida in March? I'll wait


Do you even listen to yourself? You admit it was at the same place, at the same time. That means that teams that are in champions cup have the exact same opportunity to be watched by college coaches at the event in December. The college coaches do not know or care that the player they are watching on field 17 at 2pm is playing in the Champions Cup but the player on that same field at 4pm is in the Showcase.

You are correct that the showcase teams did not play in Florida in March. But they did all play at the showcase in April https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Show me where any of the champions cup teams played in North Carolina in April. I'll wait.

You said that champions cup gives a team an advantage for college recruiting because they have more opportunities to play in front of college scouts. That is just wrong. Champions Cup teams have two events (Dec and March). Non-Champions cup also have two events (Dec and April). All of them are equally attended by college scouts.





NEFC and City SC come to mind. Hope you didn't wait too long.



Their B teams, same as multiple other clubs. The level was low in NC compared to years past for GA.


They don't have "B" teams in the GA. Only a few clubs have more than one (e.g., Lonestar, Nationals) in the GA.


You clearly aren't aware of what is going on. The GA has had clubs bringing their B teams who play in DPL to quite a few events to appease certain clubs.

They also invited a bunch of clubs to the NC showcase who are lower level than many GA clubs B teams, so there is that too. Just go look at the brackets, see for yourself.


Across all four age groups, there were 9 total DPL teams. Perhaps a handful of other non-GA teams, but the remaining (vast majority) were all their GA teams, which you can clearly see from the both the participating teams master list as well as the brackets themselves.


U15 Non-GA Teams (11)
Cincinnati United B
Columbus United
IFA
Indy Premier B
Inter Atlanta
NEFC B
One Knoxville
Rhode Island Surf
Sunrise Soccer Club
Triangle United
West Florida Flames B

U16 Non-GA Teams (13)
Cincinnati United B
Hawaii Rush
IFA
Indy Premier B
Leahi Soccer Club
Long Island SC B
NEFC B
NJ Premier
Rhode Island Surf
Seacost United B
STA B
Triangle United
Tudela FC Los Angeles

U17 Non-GA Teams (14)
Charlotte Development Academy
Columbus United
Hawaii Rush
Indy Premier B
Long Island SC B
NEFC B
Rhode Island Surf
SoCal Elite FC
STA B
STA Mount Olive (C?!)
Sunrise Soccer Club
Tormenta FC
Triangle United
Tudela FC Los Angeles

U19 Non-GA Teams (9)
Charlotte Development Academy
Cincinnati United B
Indy Premier B
Liverpool FC IA SoCal
NEFC B
NJ Premier
Seacoast United B
STA B
West Florida Flames B

47 total non 2023/24 member club teams. There were 215 teams participating per their website, which means that 22% of the entire event was non-GA.


Bro, get a job.



awww, so you make a false claim. Then get shown it's incorrect, and then get upset when someone shows you the correct information?


This is a third party. Just get the "I live through my kid" bumper sticker and drive off
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t you be a little clearer on who you heard this information from. Is it from the parent who hates FCV, from another parent, from a coach at FCV, or just an idea that popped into your head because you thought it would be interesting to stir the pot with unsubstantiated rumors? Maybe you right?


well, aren't you just an angry ball of hate?

Ask FCV; this comes from a director of another club here in town. I am sure they got the same email. Is there a way to share screenshots on here? I am happy to share what I received but can't seem to find a way to embed it.

Or since you can't seem to respond without such aggression, maybe just wait for the GA to publically announce it, then be thankful this is an anonymous forum so you don't look as silly.



Correct me if I am wrong, but a team can still qualify through regular season play, correct? It would be really sad that the players who stayed at FCV get penalized for the actions of those who left before the end this past year and refused to travel. Would they really keep a team from going if the team could show the quality of play to be there?


Yes they qualify for the following season through regular season play - that's how Champions Cup is. Fall 2023/Spring 2024 Final Club Standings = Fall 2024/Spring 2025 Season Champions Cup. so if what was said is true, FCV would have to re-earn Champions Cup next season but they wouldn't get it until the 2025/2026 season.

It’s actually not that big a deal to be in Champions Cup. All of the Champions Cup events are also showcases, so any team U15+ can go. They won’t miss out on anything.


If you don't know what you're talking about, please don't say anything.

It is a big deal because if your team doesn't make the GA playoffs, this is a major recruiting event. The more you go to, the more opportunities your DD will have to be seen by the college she wants to go to.

Champions Cup events are NOT showcases, Winter Showcase determines seeding for Spring Champions Cup tournament. The championship games determines 1st and 2nd place, the 3rd place match determines 3rd and 4th overall, etc. etc., all the way down to the 15th/16th match.

Only 16 clubs can attend plus (4) wild cards in U14 - U19 - so again not any team can go.


The event in December is absolutely a showcase. It's literally called Winter Showcase & Champions Cup. https://girlsacademyleague.com/winter-showcase/

Yes, the Spring Champions Cup tournament in March in FL is Champions Cup only. But, there is another event the next month called Spring Showcase in NC which is for all the non-Champions Cup teams. https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Click on the attending scouts list you'll see it's just as well attended by college coaches as the Champions Cup only event the month before.

None of the champions cup teams go to both the March and April events. So, all teams have the same number of opportunities to play in national events. Champions cup teams play in December, March, and June. Non-Champions cup teams play in December, April, and June. The June event is the playoffs for teams that qualify, but also a Showcase for teams that don't. Non-Champions Cup teams have the exact same number of national events as Champions Cup teams, at the exact same complexes and fields.

Clubs are counting on gullible parents like you to fall for the Champions Cup marketing. Colleges recruit players not teams at these events. All of the games are at the same complex. College coaches do not care if the team is in Champions Cup.


100%

Here is the schedule with 60 non-champions club teams that somehow managed to attend your Champions Club only event in FL in December https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/27835/schedules?group=237504

Champions Club designation only matters to clubs to help their marketing


Well first off it wasn't in FL in December, so you're already starting off wrong.

The winter showcase and champions cup are two different events held at the same place at the same time - i know that might be a hard concept to grasp but it happens. Just look at the schedule it's clearly posted that there is a U15 Champions Cup and U15 Showcase - different teams, different schedules.

Show me where any of those showcase teams played in Florida in March? I'll wait


Do you even listen to yourself? You admit it was at the same place, at the same time. That means that teams that are in champions cup have the exact same opportunity to be watched by college coaches at the event in December. The college coaches do not know or care that the player they are watching on field 17 at 2pm is playing in the Champions Cup but the player on that same field at 4pm is in the Showcase.

You are correct that the showcase teams did not play in Florida in March. But they did all play at the showcase in April https://girlsacademyleague.com/spring-showcase/. Show me where any of the champions cup teams played in North Carolina in April. I'll wait.

You said that champions cup gives a team an advantage for college recruiting because they have more opportunities to play in front of college scouts. That is just wrong. Champions Cup teams have two events (Dec and March). Non-Champions cup also have two events (Dec and April). All of them are equally attended by college scouts.





NEFC and City SC come to mind. Hope you didn't wait too long.



Their B teams, same as multiple other clubs. The level was low in NC compared to years past for GA.


They don't have "B" teams in the GA. Only a few clubs have more than one (e.g., Lonestar, Nationals) in the GA.


You clearly aren't aware of what is going on. The GA has had clubs bringing their B teams who play in DPL to quite a few events to appease certain clubs.

They also invited a bunch of clubs to the NC showcase who are lower level than many GA clubs B teams, so there is that too. Just go look at the brackets, see for yourself.


Across all four age groups, there were 9 total DPL teams. Perhaps a handful of other non-GA teams, but the remaining (vast majority) were all their GA teams, which you can clearly see from the both the participating teams master list as well as the brackets themselves.


U15 Non-GA Teams (11)
Cincinnati United B
Columbus United
IFA
Indy Premier B
Inter Atlanta
NEFC B
One Knoxville
Rhode Island Surf
Sunrise Soccer Club
Triangle United
West Florida Flames B

U16 Non-GA Teams (13)
Cincinnati United B
Hawaii Rush
IFA
Indy Premier B
Leahi Soccer Club
Long Island SC B
NEFC B
NJ Premier
Rhode Island Surf
Seacost United B
STA B
Triangle United
Tudela FC Los Angeles

U17 Non-GA Teams (14)
Charlotte Development Academy
Columbus United
Hawaii Rush
Indy Premier B
Long Island SC B
NEFC B
Rhode Island Surf
SoCal Elite FC
STA B
STA Mount Olive (C?!)
Sunrise Soccer Club
Tormenta FC
Triangle United
Tudela FC Los Angeles

U19 Non-GA Teams (9)
Charlotte Development Academy
Cincinnati United B
Indy Premier B
Liverpool FC IA SoCal
NEFC B
NJ Premier
Seacoast United B
STA B
West Florida Flames B

47 total non 2023/24 member club teams. There were 215 teams participating per their website, which means that 22% of the entire event was non-GA.


Bro, get a job.



awww, so you make a false claim. Then get shown it's incorrect, and then get upset when someone shows you the correct information?


After we're all done basking in your perpetual correctness (and you've driven off with your new bumper sticker), what was your whole point here?
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you must be new here, everything thread is identical. it starts out on topic A quickly dissolves into a bunch of arguing, then gets into the ECNL vs GA arguments, then which club/team is better vs another club/team, then more arguing on different topics, throw in the field person asking about those every other day, then rinse and repeat...go check out the Brave/Union thread, it's the same but just 300+ pages of it
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