Wegovy/Saxenda for weight loss?

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Anonymous wrote:I did Calibrate for a year and really liked it until about the 11 month mark when my Wegovy was cancelled without notice because of insurance issues. Apparently there was a limit to the coupon Calibrate was using to get Wegovy. So I had to go off it cold turkey. Now they’ve gotten it approved but it would cost me $350 monthly which I can’t do. It’s disappointing that it ended this way. Now that I’m off the medication I’ve already gained back several pounds.

Unfortunately studies show that once you go off the drug you rapidly gain the weight back to baseline.

I have been taking the medication for nearly 2 years (was a part of the study), I would disagree that you “rapidly” gain the weight back. But from “my experience”, it takes about a month for your body to adjust to no longer taking the medication. Then your brain rapidly goes to work talking to you and doing whatever it did to get you overweight originally. But that was my brain. But I learned that physically I really wasn’t as hungry as my brain would lead me to believe. The medication definitely taught me some cues and I have to willing lean into them and turn away from what my brain is trying to get me to do. Not sure if I’m articulating this well. But like last night I didn’t. I had two ice sandwiches when I knew I only really wanted one. $hit, I didn’t even need 1! I wasn’t hungry at all, but my brain…why did I even buy them? My brain. When I was on the medication, I wouldn’t have even bought them. I do not understand why insurance won’t cover it!

I think you are actually proving the PP's point - if you continue along this path (2 ice cream sandwiches!!), you will in fact rapidly gain back weight. Especially if your body is used to a lower calorie diet.

NP. Would you stop with the moralistic and fake horror? Jesus, ignorant people like you are why the obesity epidemic is so bad. The fact is that PP has a biologically and metabolically different body than people who have never been obese. Her body and brain will drive her to eat in a way that normal weight people do not experience. That is what this drug changes: the biological signals driving obese people to eat. And that doesn’t change with weight loss, unfortunately. Weight loss doesn’t make an obese person metabolically the same as someone who is the exact same weight but who never was obese. Their bodies are completely different, on many levels.

This should be regarded as a lifelong or very extended drug. Personally, I am convinced there is a state of pre-pre-diabetes that isn’t detected by A1C but that is common among obese people, and I think these drugs essentially treat that. Off the drugs, regardless of actual weight, the body reverts to that insulin-seeking pre-pre-diabetic state.

We know so very little about the physiology and metabolism of obesity, in part because people so desperately want to make a medical condition into a moral condition.

Are you and I reading the same thing? I AM obese, I tried Wegovy and it didn't work for me (too many side effects), and that PP doesn't seem to realize that it is the DRUG that affects her metabolism/her hunger hues and not her own personal willpower. I have taken drugs that shut down my hunger cues, I know they work. I also know that I gained the weight right back once I went off them. I don't know why she thinks she's different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't do Calibrate because I have federal insurance. I am from the US but live overseas and can likely buy the meds myself for much less than in the US. Same for bloodwork.

Any suggestions for something similar?

According to the website it's $135/month or $1600/year. Can you pay for it out-of-pocket?

I would but they will not let you. I find it odd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I did Calibrate for a year and really liked it until about the 11 month mark when my Wegovy was cancelled without notice because of insurance issues. Apparently there was a limit to the coupon Calibrate was using to get Wegovy. So I had to go off it cold turkey. Now they’ve gotten it approved but it would cost me $350 monthly which I can’t do. It’s disappointing that it ended this way. Now that I’m off the medication I’ve already gained back several pounds.

Unfortunately studies show that once you go off the drug you rapidly gain the weight back to baseline.

I have been taking the medication for nearly 2 years (was a part of the study), I would disagree that you “rapidly” gain the weight back. But from “my experience”, it takes about a month for your body to adjust to no longer taking the medication. Then your brain rapidly goes to work talking to you and doing whatever it did to get you overweight originally. But that was my brain. But I learned that physically I really wasn’t as hungry as my brain would lead me to believe. The medication definitely taught me some cues and I have to willing lean into them and turn away from what my brain is trying to get me to do. Not sure if I’m articulating this well. But like last night I didn’t. I had two ice sandwiches when I knew I only really wanted one. $hit, I didn’t even need 1! I wasn’t hungry at all, but my brain…why did I even buy them? My brain. When I was on the medication, I wouldn’t have even bought them. I do not understand why insurance won’t cover it!

I think you are actually proving the PP's point - if you continue along this path (2 ice cream sandwiches!!), you will in fact rapidly gain back weight. Especially if your body is used to a lower calorie diet.

NP. Would you stop with the moralistic and fake horror? Jesus, ignorant people like you are why the obesity epidemic is so bad. The fact is that PP has a biologically and metabolically different body than people who have never been obese. Her body and brain will drive her to eat in a way that normal weight people do not experience. That is what this drug changes: the biological signals driving obese people to eat. And that doesn’t change with weight loss, unfortunately. Weight loss doesn’t make an obese person metabolically the same as someone who is the exact same weight but who never was obese. Their bodies are completely different, on many levels.

This should be regarded as a lifelong or very extended drug. Personally, I am convinced there is a state of pre-pre-diabetes that isn’t detected by A1C but that is common among obese people, and I think these drugs essentially treat that. Off the drugs, regardless of actual weight, the body reverts to that insulin-seeking pre-pre-diabetic state.

We know so very little about the physiology and metabolism of obesity, in part because people so desperately want to make a medical condition into a moral condition.

Are you and I reading the same thing? I AM obese, I tried Wegovy and it didn't work for me (too many side effects), and that PP doesn't seem to realize that it is the DRUG that affects her metabolism/her hunger hues and not her own personal willpower. I have taken drugs that shut down my hunger cues, I know they work. I also know that I gained the weight right back once I went off them. I don't know why she thinks she's different.

Hey because I am different! I’ve been off the medication for nearly 2 months! I’ve only gained back 3-4lbs. I know that’s a short time but now I know myself better. When I make bad food choices (2 ice cream sandwiches), I hit the gym and I make better choices the next day. So I’m working really hard to not go back to where I was. I’m in the gym 5 days a week, and do yoga on the other 2. I eat OMAD. I TOSSED THOSE ice cream sandwiches. I know the way to keep weight off is a calorie deficit.

I was 300lbs for too long. Now that I’ve seen the other side, I’m never going back. I don’t care what I have to do. Do I want to be back on Wegovy? Hell yes. But I’ll never be where I was again. Medicine or no medicine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did Calibrate for a year and really liked it until about the 11 month mark when my Wegovy was cancelled without notice because of insurance issues. Apparently there was a limit to the coupon Calibrate was using to get Wegovy. So I had to go off it cold turkey. Now they’ve gotten it approved but it would cost me $350 monthly which I can’t do. It’s disappointing that it ended this way. Now that I’m off the medication I’ve already gained back several pounds.

Unfortunately studies show that once you go off the drug you rapidly gain the weight back to baseline.

I have been taking the medication for nearly 2 years (was a part of the study), I would disagree that you “rapidly” gain the weight back. But from “my experience”, it takes about a month for your body to adjust to no longer taking the medication. Then your brain rapidly goes to work talking to you and doing whatever it did to get you overweight originally. But that was my brain. But I learned that physically I really wasn’t as hungry as my brain would lead me to believe. The medication definitely taught me some cues and I have to willing lean into them and turn away from what my brain is trying to get me to do. Not sure if I’m articulating this well. But like last night I didn’t. I had two ice sandwiches when I knew I only really wanted one. $hit, I didn’t even need 1! I wasn’t hungry at all, but my brain…why did I even buy them? My brain. When I was on the medication, I wouldn’t have even bought them. I do not understand why insurance won’t cover it!

I think you are actually proving the PP's point - if you continue along this path (2 ice cream sandwiches!!), you will in fact rapidly gain back weight. Especially if your body is used to a lower calorie diet.

NP. Would you stop with the moralistic and fake horror? Jesus, ignorant people like you are why the obesity epidemic is so bad. The fact is that PP has a biologically and metabolically different body than people who have never been obese. Her body and brain will drive her to eat in a way that normal weight people do not experience. That is what this drug changes: the biological signals driving obese people to eat. And that doesn’t change with weight loss, unfortunately. Weight loss doesn’t make an obese person metabolically the same as someone who is the exact same weight but who never was obese. Their bodies are completely different, on many levels.

This should be regarded as a lifelong or very extended drug. Personally, I am convinced there is a state of pre-pre-diabetes that isn’t detected by A1C but that is common among obese people, and I think these drugs essentially treat that. Off the drugs, regardless of actual weight, the body reverts to that insulin-seeking pre-pre-diabetic state.

We know so very little about the physiology and metabolism of obesity, in part because people so desperately want to make a medical condition into a moral condition.

Are you and I reading the same thing? I AM obese, I tried Wegovy and it didn't work for me (too many side effects), and that PP doesn't seem to realize that it is the DRUG that affects her metabolism/her hunger hues and not her own personal willpower. I have taken drugs that shut down my hunger cues, I know they work. I also know that I gained the weight right back once I went off them. I don't know why she thinks she's different.

Hey because I am different! I’ve been off the medication for nearly 2 months! I’ve only gained back 3-4lbs. I know that’s a short time but now I know myself better. When I make bad food choices (2 ice cream sandwiches), I hit the gym and I make better choices the next day. So I’m working really hard to not go back to where I was. I’m in the gym 5 days a week, and do yoga on the other 2. I eat OMAD. I TOSSED THOSE ice cream sandwiches. I know the way to keep weight off is a calorie deficit.

I was 300lbs for too long. Now that I’ve seen the other side, I’m never going back. I don’t care what I have to do. Do I want to be back on Wegovy? Hell yes. But I’ll never be where I was again. Medicine or no medicine.

I think you are setting yourself up for failure, to be totally blunt. We as humans struggle with a permanent calorie deficit, especially people who were formerly obese.

I am sorry, I wish that I could tell you it will all be okay. But I think that you should really consider a quick return to Wegovy if you start to gain. It is not a personal or moral failure. It is your biology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did Calibrate for a year and really liked it until about the 11 month mark when my Wegovy was cancelled without notice because of insurance issues. Apparently there was a limit to the coupon Calibrate was using to get Wegovy. So I had to go off it cold turkey. Now they’ve gotten it approved but it would cost me $350 monthly which I can’t do. It’s disappointing that it ended this way. Now that I’m off the medication I’ve already gained back several pounds.

Unfortunately studies show that once you go off the drug you rapidly gain the weight back to baseline.

I have been taking the medication for nearly 2 years (was a part of the study), I would disagree that you “rapidly” gain the weight back. But from “my experience”, it takes about a month for your body to adjust to no longer taking the medication. Then your brain rapidly goes to work talking to you and doing whatever it did to get you overweight originally. But that was my brain. But I learned that physically I really wasn’t as hungry as my brain would lead me to believe. The medication definitely taught me some cues and I have to willing lean into them and turn away from what my brain is trying to get me to do. Not sure if I’m articulating this well. But like last night I didn’t. I had two ice sandwiches when I knew I only really wanted one. $hit, I didn’t even need 1! I wasn’t hungry at all, but my brain…why did I even buy them? My brain. When I was on the medication, I wouldn’t have even bought them. I do not understand why insurance won’t cover it!

I think you are actually proving the PP's point - if you continue along this path (2 ice cream sandwiches!!), you will in fact rapidly gain back weight. Especially if your body is used to a lower calorie diet.

NP. Would you stop with the moralistic and fake horror? Jesus, ignorant people like you are why the obesity epidemic is so bad. The fact is that PP has a biologically and metabolically different body than people who have never been obese. Her body and brain will drive her to eat in a way that normal weight people do not experience. That is what this drug changes: the biological signals driving obese people to eat. And that doesn’t change with weight loss, unfortunately. Weight loss doesn’t make an obese person metabolically the same as someone who is the exact same weight but who never was obese. Their bodies are completely different, on many levels.

This should be regarded as a lifelong or very extended drug. Personally, I am convinced there is a state of pre-pre-diabetes that isn’t detected by A1C but that is common among obese people, and I think these drugs essentially treat that. Off the drugs, regardless of actual weight, the body reverts to that insulin-seeking pre-pre-diabetic state.

We know so very little about the physiology and metabolism of obesity, in part because people so desperately want to make a medical condition into a moral condition.

Are you and I reading the same thing? I AM obese, I tried Wegovy and it didn't work for me (too many side effects), and that PP doesn't seem to realize that it is the DRUG that affects her metabolism/her hunger hues and not her own personal willpower. I have taken drugs that shut down my hunger cues, I know they work. I also know that I gained the weight right back once I went off them. I don't know why she thinks she's different.

Hey because I am different! I’ve been off the medication for nearly 2 months! I’ve only gained back 3-4lbs. I know that’s a short time but now I know myself better. When I make bad food choices (2 ice cream sandwiches), I hit the gym and I make better choices the next day. So I’m working really hard to not go back to where I was. I’m in the gym 5 days a week, and do yoga on the other 2. I eat OMAD. I TOSSED THOSE ice cream sandwiches. I know the way to keep weight off is a calorie deficit.

I was 300lbs for too long. Now that I’ve seen the other side, I’m never going back. I don’t care what I have to do. Do I want to be back on Wegovy? Hell yes. But I’ll never be where I was again. Medicine or no medicine.

I think you are setting yourself up for failure, to be totally blunt. We as humans struggle with a permanent calorie deficit, especially people who were formerly obese.

I am sorry, I wish that I could tell you it will all be okay. But I think that you should really consider a quick return to Wegovy if you start to gain. It is not a personal or moral failure. It is your biology.

Thanks for the sentiment, but unless you've got an extra $800-$900 bucks a month to throw my way, going back on Wegovy is not happening.

I don't think I'm setting myself up for failure at all, I think.i have matured, and I think I'm in a better place. I'm not wearing rose colored glasses about myself or my weight. I know what the deal is. I can't eat $hit and expect to maintain this weight loss. I have good days and bad days. I try to have more good than bad. My gym family keeps me motivated. More than anything, looking and feeling great keeps me motivated! And I look good!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did Calibrate for a year and really liked it until about the 11 month mark when my Wegovy was cancelled without notice because of insurance issues. Apparently there was a limit to the coupon Calibrate was using to get Wegovy. So I had to go off it cold turkey. Now they’ve gotten it approved but it would cost me $350 monthly which I can’t do. It’s disappointing that it ended this way. Now that I’m off the medication I’ve already gained back several pounds.

Unfortunately studies show that once you go off the drug you rapidly gain the weight back to baseline.

I have been taking the medication for nearly 2 years (was a part of the study), I would disagree that you “rapidly” gain the weight back. But from “my experience”, it takes about a month for your body to adjust to no longer taking the medication. Then your brain rapidly goes to work talking to you and doing whatever it did to get you overweight originally. But that was my brain. But I learned that physically I really wasn’t as hungry as my brain would lead me to believe. The medication definitely taught me some cues and I have to willing lean into them and turn away from what my brain is trying to get me to do. Not sure if I’m articulating this well. But like last night I didn’t. I had two ice sandwiches when I knew I only really wanted one. $hit, I didn’t even need 1! I wasn’t hungry at all, but my brain…why did I even buy them? My brain. When I was on the medication, I wouldn’t have even bought them. I do not understand why insurance won’t cover it!

I think you are actually proving the PP's point - if you continue along this path (2 ice cream sandwiches!!), you will in fact rapidly gain back weight. Especially if your body is used to a lower calorie diet.

NP. Would you stop with the moralistic and fake horror? Jesus, ignorant people like you are why the obesity epidemic is so bad. The fact is that PP has a biologically and metabolically different body than people who have never been obese. Her body and brain will drive her to eat in a way that normal weight people do not experience. That is what this drug changes: the biological signals driving obese people to eat. And that doesn’t change with weight loss, unfortunately. Weight loss doesn’t make an obese person metabolically the same as someone who is the exact same weight but who never was obese. Their bodies are completely different, on many levels.

This should be regarded as a lifelong or very extended drug. Personally, I am convinced there is a state of pre-pre-diabetes that isn’t detected by A1C but that is common among obese people, and I think these drugs essentially treat that. Off the drugs, regardless of actual weight, the body reverts to that insulin-seeking pre-pre-diabetic state.

We know so very little about the physiology and metabolism of obesity, in part because people so desperately want to make a medical condition into a moral condition.

Are you and I reading the same thing? I AM obese, I tried Wegovy and it didn't work for me (too many side effects), and that PP doesn't seem to realize that it is the DRUG that affects her metabolism/her hunger hues and not her own personal willpower. I have taken drugs that shut down my hunger cues, I know they work. I also know that I gained the weight right back once I went off them. I don't know why she thinks she's different.

Hey because I am different! I’ve been off the medication for nearly 2 months! I’ve only gained back 3-4lbs. I know that’s a short time but now I know myself better. When I make bad food choices (2 ice cream sandwiches), I hit the gym and I make better choices the next day. So I’m working really hard to not go back to where I was. I’m in the gym 5 days a week, and do yoga on the other 2. I eat OMAD. I TOSSED THOSE ice cream sandwiches. I know the way to keep weight off is a calorie deficit.

I was 300lbs for too long. Now that I’ve seen the other side, I’m never going back. I don’t care what I have to do. Do I want to be back on Wegovy? Hell yes. But I’ll never be where I was again. Medicine or no medicine.

I think you are setting yourself up for failure, to be totally blunt. We as humans struggle with a permanent calorie deficit, especially people who were formerly obese.

I am sorry, I wish that I could tell you it will all be okay. But I think that you should really consider a quick return to Wegovy if you start to gain. It is not a personal or moral failure. It is your biology.

Thanks for the sentiment, but unless you've got an extra $800-$900 bucks a month to throw my way, going back on Wegovy is not happening.

I don't think I'm setting myself up for failure at all, I think.i have matured, and I think I'm in a better place. I'm not wearing rose colored glasses about myself or my weight. I know what the deal is. I can't eat $hit and expect to maintain this weight loss. I have good days and bad days. I try to have more good than bad. My gym family keeps me motivated. More than anything, looking and feeling great keeps me motivated! And I look good!

LOVE YOUR ATTITUDE, PP! You got this.

[Anonymous]

Did anyone go through One Medical to get an Rx for Wegovy or similar?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone go through One Medical to get an Rx for Wegovy or similar?

I actually left One Medical because I thought my doc wouldn't do it. She's very much a "willpower will do it!" kind of doctor. My guess is it probably depends on your doc. If you are in MoCo or upper NW, highly recommend Daniel Powers at Kelly Goodman and Associates. He's weight loss focused and has been great. I have lost 43lbs on Wegovy since January.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone go through One Medical to get an Rx for Wegovy or similar?

I actually left One Medical because I thought my doc wouldn't do it. She's very much a "willpower will do it!" kind of doctor. My guess is it probably depends on your doc. If you are in MoCo or upper NW, highly recommend Daniel Powers at Kelly Goodman and Associates. He's weight loss focused and has been great. I have lost 43lbs on Wegovy since January.

NP
Thank you for this. I like everything about by doctor but this- she’s the same way. I’ll check these out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here - meaning DON'T PAY FOR A WEIGHT LOSS CENTER. Just ask your doctor.

My doctor sent me to a weight loss center.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP here - meaning DON'T PAY FOR A WEIGHT LOSS CENTER. Just ask your doctor.

My doctor sent me to a weight loss center.

Get a new doctor. Mine was very supportive of prescribing Ozempic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did Calibrate for a year and really liked it until about the 11 month mark when my Wegovy was cancelled without notice because of insurance issues. Apparently there was a limit to the coupon Calibrate was using to get Wegovy. So I had to go off it cold turkey. Now they’ve gotten it approved but it would cost me $350 monthly which I can’t do. It’s disappointing that it ended this way. Now that I’m off the medication I’ve already gained back several pounds.

Unfortunately studies show that once you go off the drug you rapidly gain the weight back to baseline.

I have been taking the medication for nearly 2 years (was a part of the study), I would disagree that you “rapidly” gain the weight back. But from “my experience”, it takes about a month for your body to adjust to no longer taking the medication. Then your brain rapidly goes to work talking to you and doing whatever it did to get you overweight originally. But that was my brain. But I learned that physically I really wasn’t as hungry as my brain would lead me to believe. The medication definitely taught me some cues and I have to willing lean into them and turn away from what my brain is trying to get me to do. Not sure if I’m articulating this well. But like last night I didn’t. I had two ice sandwiches when I knew I only really wanted one. $hit, I didn’t even need 1! I wasn’t hungry at all, but my brain…why did I even buy them? My brain. When I was on the medication, I wouldn’t have even bought them. I do not understand why insurance won’t cover it!

I think you are actually proving the PP's point - if you continue along this path (2 ice cream sandwiches!!), you will in fact rapidly gain back weight. Especially if your body is used to a lower calorie diet.

NP. Would you stop with the moralistic and fake horror? Jesus, ignorant people like you are why the obesity epidemic is so bad. The fact is that PP has a biologically and metabolically different body than people who have never been obese. Her body and brain will drive her to eat in a way that normal weight people do not experience. That is what this drug changes: the biological signals driving obese people to eat. And that doesn’t change with weight loss, unfortunately. Weight loss doesn’t make an obese person metabolically the same as someone who is the exact same weight but who never was obese. Their bodies are completely different, on many levels.

This should be regarded as a lifelong or very extended drug. Personally, I am convinced there is a state of pre-pre-diabetes that isn’t detected by A1C but that is common among obese people, and I think these drugs essentially treat that. Off the drugs, regardless of actual weight, the body reverts to that insulin-seeking pre-pre-diabetic state.

We know so very little about the physiology and metabolism of obesity, in part because people so desperately want to make a medical condition into a moral condition.

Are you and I reading the same thing? I AM obese, I tried Wegovy and it didn't work for me (too many side effects), and that PP doesn't seem to realize that it is the DRUG that affects her metabolism/her hunger hues and not her own personal willpower. I have taken drugs that shut down my hunger cues, I know they work. I also know that I gained the weight right back once I went off them. I don't know why she thinks she's different.

Hey because I am different! I’ve been off the medication for nearly 2 months! I’ve only gained back 3-4lbs. I know that’s a short time but now I know myself better. When I make bad food choices (2 ice cream sandwiches), I hit the gym and I make better choices the next day. So I’m working really hard to not go back to where I was. I’m in the gym 5 days a week, and do yoga on the other 2. I eat OMAD. I TOSSED THOSE ice cream sandwiches. I know the way to keep weight off is a calorie deficit.

I was 300lbs for too long. Now that I’ve seen the other side, I’m never going back. I don’t care what I have to do. Do I want to be back on Wegovy? Hell yes. But I’ll never be where I was again. Medicine or no medicine.

The medication was still in your system for 4-6 weeks. So you’ve gained weight back rapidly while still on the medication at a lower level. And you already gained 4 pounds, while working out 7 days a week on a restrictive eating plan. I’m sorry but if anything that’s proof that the weight comes back quickly and this is a lifelong medication.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here - meaning DON'T PAY FOR A WEIGHT LOSS CENTER. Just ask your doctor.

My doctor sent me to a weight loss center.

Get a new doctor. Mine was very supportive of prescribing Ozempic.

Just for weight loss or are you diabetic?

[Anonymous]

Wegovy is amazing. 25lbs weight loss in 4 months. Best 3k I've spent. Invest in yourself

[Anonymous]

I already hear non obese people talking about getting it to lose extra pounds or maintain a normal weight…which seems like a bad idea. What are the LONG term effects not just side effects?