Is John Hopkins an Ivy?

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Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate prestige tiers:

1: Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT
2: Columbia, Chicago, Caltech, Northwestern, Duke, Penn
3: Hopkins, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
4: Berkeley, Michigan, UCLA, UVA, UNC, Rice, Vanderbilt

This is the official list. I don’t make the rules. Don’t shoot the messenger.


Tiers like this are stupid, meaningless, have no basis in data, and are strictly exercises in confirmation bias by the ignorant for the ignorant.


And yet... accurate.


Official by whom? DCUM-approved? College Confidential? Reddit?


It’s the official college ranking list according to the college ranking officials.


What list? Where is it? Who are the "college ranking officials"? Is it a self-appointed position?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate prestige tiers:

1: Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT
2: Columbia, Chicago, Caltech, Northwestern, Duke, Penn
3: Hopkins, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
4: Berkeley, Michigan, UCLA, UVA, UNC, Rice, Vanderbilt

This is the official list. I don’t make the rules. Don’t shoot the messenger.


Tiers like this are stupid, meaningless, have no basis in data, and are strictly exercises in confirmation bias by the ignorant for the ignorant.


And yet... accurate.


Official by whom? DCUM-approved? College Confidential? Reddit?


It’s the official college ranking list according to the college ranking officials.


What list? Where is it? Who are the "college ranking officials"? Is it a self-appointed position?


The college ranking officials officially ranked these colleges.
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Anonymous wrote:To the Hopkins booster:

You seem to be using 2 metrics. The first is number of papers published, which is a ridiculous metric because anyone can publish a paper in an irrelevant academic journal.

The second is patents. Well, I found patents per university in 2018. Hopkins is #9.

https://academyofinventors.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Top-100-2018.pdf

So please stop spreading misinformation.



Hey idiot, why don't you use the latest list, which already posted a while back :

https://academyofinventors.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/2020-2019-top-100.pdf


Hopkins produces more patents that even harvard, yale, princeton, u chicago, duke, north western, brown, penn, and dartmouth..


Try to keep up next time. Once again, you fail to understand hopkins. It caters by in large to major league training only. It doesn't bother as much with undergrads. That's the only reason its 'ranking' suffers.


You said they filed more patents than any other university in the US. Did you not? The list you posted has Hopkins at #7 worldwide and it would be #5 in the US.

Stop trying to make Hopkins happen. It’s not going to happen.




Uhhh no idiot. Read again......your reading comprehension sucks. No where was it said that JHU files more patents than any other institution. All was said is that JHU holds more patents than most other top institutions, which is true, idiot.

Now try reading correctly for once. It must really chap your ass that JHU produces more patentable research than harvard, yale, penn, princeton, chicago, brown, NW, duke, dartmouth, and brown.


https://www.reuters.com/innovative-universities-2019

In terms of the success rate of patents filed and the commercial impact of the patents, JHU is ranked #15, behind Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Penn, U of Washington, UNC-Chapel Hill, USC, Cornell, U of Texas, U of California.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate prestige tiers:

1: Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT
2: Columbia, Chicago, Caltech, Northwestern, Duke, Penn
3: Hopkins, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
4: Berkeley, Michigan, UCLA, UVA, UNC, Rice, Vanderbilt

This is the official list. I don’t make the rules. Don’t shoot the messenger.


Tiers like this are stupid, meaningless, have no basis in data, and are strictly exercises in confirmation bias by the ignorant for the ignorant.


And yet... accurate.


Official by whom? DCUM-approved? College Confidential? Reddit?


It’s the official college ranking list according to the college ranking officials.


What list? Where is it? Who are the "college ranking officials"? Is it a self-appointed position?


The college ranking officials officially ranked these colleges.


You didn't answer a single question by the PP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate prestige tiers:

1: Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT
2: Columbia, Chicago, Caltech, Northwestern, Duke, Penn
3: Hopkins, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
4: Berkeley, Michigan, UCLA, UVA, UNC, Rice, Vanderbilt

This is the official list. I don’t make the rules. Don’t shoot the messenger.


Tiers like this are stupid, meaningless, have no basis in data, and are strictly exercises in confirmation bias by the ignorant for the ignorant.


And yet... accurate.


Official by whom? DCUM-approved? College Confidential? Reddit?


It’s the official college ranking list according to the college ranking officials.


What list? Where is it? Who are the "college ranking officials"? Is it a self-appointed position?


The college ranking officials officially ranked these colleges.


I only know of rankings that help increase the sales of the magazines/newspapers that make them in the first place.
Anonymous
The Ivy League is a sports league. So only schools who are members are considered Ivies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The Ivy League is a sports league. So only schools who are members are considered Ivies.


+2
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The Ivy League is a sports league. So only schools who are members are considered Ivies.


+2


Therefore, Hopkins is not an Ivy.

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Anonymous wrote:Amherst is not worth a dollar. Bad outcomes. Coddled elite white kids. Have fun lighting your money on fire.


God this is such bullshit. Amherst, its faculty, curriculum and outcomes are extraordinary. If you disagree, you are a severe outlier.

Also, stop worrying about other people's money. It's distasteful.


Not to mention it is not majority white.
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Anonymous wrote:Look. Hopkins doesn't give a shit about undergrads. Hopkins is bar none a top 5 RESEARCH institution. It leads in number of publications and patents and blows many ivies out of the water in that respect.

Hopkins isn't your typical university. It focuses mostly at the major league levels while other universities cater towards the minor leagues. Hopkins also defends this nation. The second most devastating weapon in all of WWII next to the atom bomb was the proximity fuze. It was advanced by Hopkins. Go read up on the insane history of the proximity fuze and how it basically won the war for the allies in WWII.


Again, lots of apples to oranges here. Hopkins produces a shit ton of research and patents. Wayyyyyyy more than many ivies and other top institutions. It is focused more at the much higher end of education than the undergrad level, which is why its 'ranking' is lower. But if you look at actual value added to the human body of knowledge in terms of actual original research and patents, hopkins is top 3-5. Easily.


1. You need to chill a little. You seem hyper.

2. I’m sure Hopkins has contributed some great things to the world, but they are not unique in that regard. For example, the Argonne Lab at UChicago was intimately involved in the Manhattan Project and after the war was designated as the US’s first national laboratory. It’s still part of the US Dept of Energy’s national lab system. UChicago also co-manages the Fermilab, which developed a revolutionary particle accelerator. Other major research discoveries at UChicago include the discovery of REM sleep, the calculation of the charge of an electron, etc.

My point is simply that Hopkins is not unique in its contributions to the world. I could make the same list as I did for UChicago if I looked up any number of research institutions.



Hopkins publishes more research and obtains more patents than UChicago..it isn't even debatable.....go look up the number of paper published per year by hopkins compared to Chicago.


Lol ok crazy Hopkins booster.


You are selling Hopkins so hard that no one wants to buy.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The 8 most important schools for the United States are Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Annapolis, West Point, Hopkins and Stanford. Hopkins is the number one research institution by a wide margin.


LOL


+1

Didn't know there's a school named, "Annapolis."
Anonymous
This is how it feels in my mind:
1: Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Princeton
2: Yale, Columbia, Caltech
3. Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Penn, Hopkins
4: Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
5: Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, UCLA
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Thanks.


Its an ivy equivalent but not in the same sports league so not an Ivy. Academically, it’s known to be more rigorous than all Ivies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is how it feels in my mind:
1: Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Princeton
2: Yale, Columbia, Caltech
3. Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Penn, Hopkins
4: Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
5: Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, UCLA


In your mind but not factually.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The 8 most important schools for the United States are Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Annapolis, West Point, Hopkins and Stanford. Hopkins is the number one research institution by a wide margin.


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