BOE Fall Plan Meeting

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Except if you have ever been in a middle or high school and spent time in the hallways, you have seen that it is part of the developmental stage for students that age to closely interact. It would be very hard to enforce social distancing and mask wearing in hallways, so that would be a known risk.

I've got news for you about what kids in Montgomery County have been doing, without school.

Irrelevant. That’s not on the school system’s watch. They are responsible for what happens in their schools to their students and staff. Plus, kids playing outside is a completely different level of risk than what happens inside hallways of schools. Also, what adult writes things like, “do you have eyes?” Do you walk around talking like this to people or just write rudely when it’s anonymous. Why not just try to have a productive conversation without adding the insensitive statements? I don’t get it.

What the kids are doing outside of school is 100% relevant to the public-health implications of opening school.

And here's what they're doing: most of the same things they do outside of school during normal times, indoors as well as out.

I'm sorry, I have a hard time believing most high school students are spending the summer indoors for 6 hours with 15 or so other kids they don't know.

Maybe you need a refresher course in Stuff Teenagers Do.

This fall, we are not going to be under a stay-at-home order (hopefully). If teenagers are 100% DL, and then socialize like they normally would (distanced +masks hopefully), there is a lot less cross exposure than if they are pulled together in schools. That hybrid plan pulls students and staff from different neighborhoods, puts them together on a bus, together in 7 different classroom groupings (MS/HS), circulating in the building, and then they go home with whatever they picked up. Hang out with family for an evening and swap around anything anyone picked up. Repeat the next day. There will be ~100 contacts per day going to school. Compare that to your kid's social group of 5 or 10 or 20. Teenagers going to school is orders of magnitude worse than teenagers out and about now.

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Except if you have ever been in a middle or high school and spent time in the hallways, you have seen that it is part of the developmental stage for students that age to closely interact. It would be very hard to enforce social distancing and mask wearing in hallways, so that would be a known risk.

I've got news for you about what kids in Montgomery County have been doing, without school.

Irrelevant. That’s not on the school system’s watch. They are responsible for what happens in their schools to their students and staff. Plus, kids playing outside is a completely different level of risk than what happens inside hallways of schools. Also, what adult writes things like, “do you have eyes?” Do you walk around talking like this to people or just write rudely when it’s anonymous. Why not just try to have a productive conversation without adding the insensitive statements? I don’t get it.

What the kids are doing outside of school is 100% relevant to the public-health implications of opening school.

And here's what they're doing: most of the same things they do outside of school during normal times, indoors as well as out.

NP. But they aren’t congregating in groups of 100s or 1000s in poorly ventilated buildings with adults of all ages. That’s what many of MCPS middle and high schools are like, and what would happen in those situations is entirely unknown!

Right! For 7 hours a day!

Also, FWIW, kids in my neighborhood have not been allowed out much, except on bikes or to play tennis or scooter at a distance. We could be an outlier, if course...

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Anonymous wrote:Happen to live in a neighborhood with several MCPS teachers across ES, MS, and HS. All saying they doubt any in-person instruction will happen in the fall and they think the hybrid was to app reads parents and community members who want in-person education to resume.

When I asked one of these teachers neighbors if they wanted to return to in-person, their response was “hell no - no one does. In person isn’t happening this school year.”

Take it for what it’s worth but my sense is teachers know more than the rest of us and I’m now planning for zero in person school.

This is really bad for younger students. A few months is one thing - a couple of years is another.

If it really is to appease parents, and the #s keep going down, how will they justify changing it? SO MANY PARENTS want hybrid. More than want DL.

What numbers are going down exactly -- MD is going up and MoCo is at best flat. The death rate will reflect this in 3-4 weeks.

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Right! For 7 hours a day!

Also, FWIW, kids in my neighborhood have not been allowed out much, except on bikes or to play tennis or scooter at a distance. We could be an outlier, if course...

Yes, you are.

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This fall, we are not going to be under a stay-at-home order (hopefully). If teenagers are 100% DL, and then socialize like they normally would (distanced +masks hopefully), there is a lot less cross exposure than if they are pulled together in schools. That hybrid plan pulls students and staff from different neighborhoods, puts them together on a bus, together in 7 different classroom groupings (MS/HS), circulating in the building, and then they go home with whatever they picked up. Hang out with family for an evening and swap around anything anyone picked up. Repeat the next day. There will be ~100 contacts per day going to school. Compare that to your kid's social group of 5 or 10 or 20. Teenagers going to school is orders of magnitude worse than teenagers out and about now.

No.

And again, I'm guessing that people don't remember being teenagers. They hang out, they go places, they meet people, they ride the bus, they work. They don't stay tidily in one cul-de-sac with the 2 neighbor kids.

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Right! For 7 hours a day!

Also, FWIW, kids in my neighborhood have not been allowed out much, except on bikes or to play tennis or scooter at a distance. We could be an outlier, if course...

Yes, you are.

Have you been cruising through all the MoCo neighborhoods to determine that PP's is an outlier?

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Not to mention the AAP says kids should go back.

C'mon - please don't misrepresent things. The AAP says, "Returning to school is important for the healthy development and well-being of children, but we must pursue re-opening in a way that is safe for all students, teachers and staff. Science should drive decision-making on safely reopening schools. Public health agencies must make recommendations based on evidence, not politics. We should leave it to health experts to tell us when the time is best to open up school buildings, and listen to educators and administrators to shape how we do it."

https://services.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases/aap/2020/pediatricians-educators-and-superintendents-urge-a-safe-return-to-school-this-fall/

Sources, people! Our kids are expected to do it...