The Karen meme silences White women

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It isn’t misogynistic because it refers to a specific behavior pattern of a certain race and class of women. It doesn’t describe the entirety of that race and class of women. Just those who behave in a very particular way. It

Cool. Like a welfare queen. Or baby mamma.

Ok, poor white woman who's lost her voice and doesn't know what to do. Black women have to deal with being labeled angry, welfare queens, etc. Where were you to help stem that bigotry? Pretty sure you were probably buying into the stereotype given how quickly that came to your mind. Welfare queen was coined by Reagan, so unless it's something people in your circles use with some frequency, it wouldn't have come to mind so easily.

So, first you say that "Karen" isn't racist because it only refers to a specific pattern of a certain race and class of women. (That sure sounds like its based upon race and gender.) Then, another poster says, "just like welfare queen." which only applies to a certain race and class of women. And then you get upset that black women are called a welfare queen.

Which is it PP? Are epithets that apply to a certain race and gender racist and misogynist or not?

The fact that you think calling someone Karen equates to calling a black women a welfare queen speaks volumes. Carry on using your voice to harass people of color. Just hope you don't get caught on video because in today's "pc" culture you will suffer the consequences. Why are you mad at the black people who were harassed by these women instead of the white women whose behavior created this meme? Think about that for a second.

I'm waiting on the answer to this question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a white middle aged woman. Due to the Karen meme I feel like I lost my voice. When there is an injustice, I will hesitate to speak up. Don’t get me wrong, there are certainly a subset of entitled middle aged white women, however, there are other non entitled white women as well who now feel silenced after fighting to find our voice.

I can understand what you are saying. I am Indian-American and I am accused of standing by and not contributing, or being a tiger mom, or taking the jobs from people or getting my kids prepped. People see what they see and they react to whatever they want to react to. A lot of stereotypes are being broken now (Rahul Dubey opening his home to shelter protestors being one), and I expect people to react to what I am doing in front of them rather than what they think about me. I also stay away from social media because it is very hard to convey nuances in a tweet or a comment. Don't feel silenced but be very mindful of what you say. The correct words matter but the correct actions matter even more. So speak with your actions.

What a very thoughtful response. Hopefully others will read it and take it to heart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMG, this country has a lot of race relations issues. I wonder if this will be ever resolved. I have lived here for a long time, but am from a European country that has NOT colonized any country ever. We do have our issues for sure, but are a majority white society with not much immigration. I would definitely not like to be black in this country.

I think this whole Karen thing is so stupid and actually is a bit racist and sexist. It is not ok to discriminate against black people, and you guys can hopefully fix your issues, because oh my gosh, you have a LOT of issues that have been swept under the carpet. But racism can go both ways. Just because I am a white woman, I will not let you put me down, silence me or Karen me. Of course, it is easier for me, since I do not carry any guilt of the way black people have been dealt with in this country.

I have to admit, (many) people is this country are very self-centered, selfish and spoiled rotten. It is a very individualistic society, it's all about "me, me, me" and "greed greed greed" and "buy buy buy " and " more more more". Look at Starbucks. People spending loads of money on stuff they don't need; coffee, tea and other things. And your smoothies, and your mega mansions etc etc.

With all that said, stop berating, attacking and putting down white women, or any segment of society. Enough already! Fix your race relations issues, people!

Maybe you would be much happier in the innocent country you came from. Better if you went back there to bask in it’s wonderfulness.

[Anonymous]

"The Karen meme silences White women"

Does it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that’s the point. We are sick of the outraged middle aged white woman. The problem is that your outrage is over absolutely nothing and you don’t care who you run over. Instead of building others up, you’ve focused on just yourself and tearing others down.

Have you been on the political forum, ever? The entire thing is run by “Karens,” who are outraged 24/7 and start new threads about each outrage. They will tear you down if you don’t agree with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"The Karen meme silences White women"

Does it?

I know a lot of White women who are rarely silent, me included. So: no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, this country has a lot of race relations issues. I wonder if this will be ever resolved. I have lived here for a long time, but am from a European country that has NOT colonized any country ever. We do have our issues for sure, but are a majority white society with not much immigration. I would definitely not like to be black in this country.

I think this whole Karen thing is so stupid and actually is a bit racist and sexist. It is not ok to discriminate against black people, and you guys can hopefully fix your issues, because oh my gosh, you have a LOT of issues that have been swept under the carpet. But racism can go both ways. Just because I am a white woman, I will not let you put me down, silence me or Karen me. Of course, it is easier for me, since I do not carry any guilt of the way black people have been dealt with in this country.

I have to admit, (many) people is this country are very self-centered, selfish and spoiled rotten. It is a very individualistic society, it's all about "me, me, me" and "greed greed greed" and "buy buy buy " and " more more more". Look at Starbucks. People spending loads of money on stuff they don't need; coffee, tea and other things. And your smoothies, and your mega mansions etc etc.

With all that said, stop berating, attacking and putting down white women, or any segment of society. Enough already! Fix your race relations issues, people!

Maybe you would be much happier in the innocent country you came from. Better if you went back there to bask in it’s wonderfulness.

Take me with you. I’ve had enough of this shit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"The Karen meme silences White women"

Does it?

I know a lot of White women who are rarely silent, me included. So: no.

And black women are so quiet too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP, not a troll. And an example of when I might have spoken in the past but did not recently. I ordered curbside pick up from a local smoothie shop a few weeks ago, before we were in phase 1 opening, the restaurant was advertising curbside Pick-up. I ordered my smoothie online, however, When I drove to the shop to pick it up there are a line of people inside the store to order and a line waiting (Inside as well) at the counter to pick up their smoothies. A year ago if this happened, pre-Karen meme, I would have said something along the lines of aren’t we supposed to be doing curbside? Why is everybody in the store? This time I just walked away.

Honestly good! I’m sure the restaurant is just being overwhelmed with people. Why do you think they want your opinion?

I have to agree with this. The idea of “Karen” to me is like the person that has to tell on everyone and be in control of everything. A ruler follower that goes above and beyond. You can’t control every one. Save your “voice, your time and energy” for where it counts. This scenario above isn’t it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody ever made a Karen meme over speaking up about legit injustice. As long as you aren’t berating someone for speaking Spanish in public calling the cops on a black person for j walking you are fine.

Sure they did. Just today I watched a post tagged “Karen freak outs” where a woman was trying to get a news camera crew out of her neighborhood because they were parked outside her neighbors house stalking them. Everyone was piling on her in the comments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"The Karen meme silences White women"

Does it?

I know a lot of White women who are rarely silent, me included. So: no.

And black women are so quiet too.

The title of this thread is "The Karen meme silences White women". Let's stay on topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG, this country has a lot of race relations issues. I wonder if this will be ever resolved. I have lived here for a long time, but am from a European country that has NOT colonized any country ever. We do have our issues for sure, but are a majority white society with not much immigration. I would definitely not like to be black in this country.

I think this whole Karen thing is so stupid and actually is a bit racist and sexist. It is not ok to discriminate against black people, and you guys can hopefully fix your issues, because oh my gosh, you have a LOT of issues that have been swept under the carpet. But racism can go both ways. Just because I am a white woman, I will not let you put me down, silence me or Karen me. Of course, it is easier for me, since I do not carry any guilt of the way black people have been dealt with in this country.

I have to admit, (many) people is this country are very self-centered, selfish and spoiled rotten. It is a very individualistic society, it's all about "me, me, me" and "greed greed greed" and "buy buy buy " and " more more more". Look at Starbucks. People spending loads of money on stuff they don't need; coffee, tea and other things. And your smoothies, and your mega mansions etc etc.

With all that said, stop berating, attacking and putting down white women, or any segment of society. Enough already! Fix your race relations issues, people!

Maybe you would be much happier in the innocent country you came from. Better if you went back there to bask in it’s wonderfulness.

You know, if PP thinks her home culture is so much better than where she is now, she should post the name of her country. I can GUARANTEE there is a long history of atrocities there, and plenty to criticize about what they are doing now.

but she won't. I can guarantee that, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Entitled white women could stand to be silenced.

Cool. The next time I hear that black people need white allies, I’ll say f<>k you and the horse you rode in on.

We don’t need you. We need actual white allies. Whites people who will listen to what we need. Not white people who assume what is best for them is best for everyone, as OP is doing.

But how can you tell which white women are allies if you condemn them all just for being white women?

Sounds familiar....

Huh? The PP literally told you which white people they consider to be allies. And contrasted them with the group of white people that they do not consider to be allies. LOL: And your response strongly suggests which group you're in -- at least according to the PP's way of thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the OP, not a troll. And an example of when I might have spoken in the past but did not recently. I ordered curbside pick up from a local smoothie shop a few weeks ago, before we were in phase 1 opening, the restaurant was advertising curbside Pick-up. I ordered my smoothie online, however, When I drove to the shop to pick it up there are a line of people inside the store to order and a line waiting (Inside as well) at the counter to pick up their smoothies. A year ago if this happened, pre-Karen meme, I would have said something along the lines of aren’t we supposed to be doing curbside? Why is everybody in the store? This time I just walked away.

Honestly good! I’m sure the restaurant is just being overwhelmed with people. Why do you think they want your opinion?

I have to agree with this. The idea of “Karen” to me is like the person that has to tell on everyone and be in control of everything. A ruler follower that goes above and beyond. You can’t control every one. Save your “voice, your time and energy” for where it counts. This scenario above isn’t it.

Your def and the one upthread are not the same. Which is it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Middle aged white women have been hated since forever.

The only social currency white women have is their sexual attraction to men. When that goes, society wants to push them off on an ice flow. Since we can't do that, we tell them to STFU and stand quietly in the corner where their aging body and appearance won't offend anyone's eyeballs.

Tell me I'm wrong.

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