Too crowded. DMV governors and mayors: please dedicate streets to walkers and bikers

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See? Bicyclists are willfully blind to the risks they are running. I find it amazing people put their children on bikes and ride through the city. So incredibly dangerous.

If you think it's so dangerous, then you must be extra supportive of designing transportation infrastructure that is safe not just for adults on bicycles, but also for children on bicycles. I couldn't agree with you more.

Unfortunately, that sort of infrastructure doesn't exist. I'd be more in favor of bicyclists realistically confronting the risks they are running.

Car accidents are a leading cause of death, especially among people under the age of 40. And people in cars have the benefit of airbags and seatbelts and two tons of steel around them. What do bicyclists have? Cheap little helmets and some worthless paint on the street.

[Anonymous]

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See? Bicyclists are willfully blind to the risks they are running. I find it amazing people put their children on bikes and ride through the city. So incredibly dangerous.

If you think it's so dangerous, then you must be extra supportive of designing transportation infrastructure that is safe not just for adults on bicycles, but also for children on bicycles. I couldn't agree with you more.

Unfortunately, that sort of infrastructure doesn't exist. I'd be more in favor of bicyclists realistically confronting the risks they are running.

Car accidents are a leading cause of death, especially among people under the age of 40. And people in cars have the benefit of airbags and seatbelts and two tons of steel around them. What do bicyclists have? Cheap little helmets and some worthless paint on the street.

Yes, it does.

[Anonymous]

An important point to remember is that DC is almost alone among major cities I’m not having a dedicated traffic division within the police department. NYC and most major cities do. Is it any wonder as a result that traffic enforcement and pedestrian safety are not much of a priority within MPD?

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See? Bicyclists are willfully blind to the risks they are running. I find it amazing people put their children on bikes and ride through the city. So incredibly dangerous.

If you think it's so dangerous, then you must be extra supportive of designing transportation infrastructure that is safe not just for adults on bicycles, but also for children on bicycles. I couldn't agree with you more.

Unfortunately, that sort of infrastructure doesn't exist. I'd be more in favor of bicyclists realistically confronting the risks they are running.

Car accidents are a leading cause of death, especially among people under the age of 40. And people in cars have the benefit of airbags and seatbelts and two tons of steel around them. What do bicyclists have? Cheap little helmets and some worthless paint on the street.

Yes, it does.

Wow. compelling argument.

[Anonymous]

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See? Bicyclists are willfully blind to the risks they are running. I find it amazing people put their children on bikes and ride through the city. So incredibly dangerous.

If you think it's so dangerous, then you must be extra supportive of designing transportation infrastructure that is safe not just for adults on bicycles, but also for children on bicycles. I couldn't agree with you more.

Unfortunately, that sort of infrastructure doesn't exist. I'd be more in favor of bicyclists realistically confronting the risks they are running.

Car accidents are a leading cause of death, especially among people under the age of 40. And people in cars have the benefit of airbags and seatbelts and two tons of steel around them. What do bicyclists have? Cheap little helmets and some worthless paint on the street.

Yes, it does.

Wow. compelling argument.

It's like having a compelling argument that the sun rises in the east. The fact is that transportation infrastructure that is safe not just for adults on bicycles, but also for children on bicycles, exists.

[Anonymous]

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See? Bicyclists are willfully blind to the risks they are running. I find it amazing people put their children on bikes and ride through the city. So incredibly dangerous.

If you think it's so dangerous, then you must be extra supportive of designing transportation infrastructure that is safe not just for adults on bicycles, but also for children on bicycles. I couldn't agree with you more.

Unfortunately, that sort of infrastructure doesn't exist. I'd be more in favor of bicyclists realistically confronting the risks they are running.

Car accidents are a leading cause of death, especially among people under the age of 40. And people in cars have the benefit of airbags and seatbelts and two tons of steel around them. What do bicyclists have? Cheap little helmets and some worthless paint on the street.

Yes, it does.

Wow. compelling argument.

It's like having a compelling argument that the sun rises in the east. The fact is that transportation infrastructure that is safe not just for adults on bicycles, but also for children on bicycles, exists.

Ok, So, to summarize:

Argument #1: Nuh uh

Argument #2: It's not worth my time to make the argument.

You're not really selling your ideas here very well. Facts and examples work better.

[Anonymous]

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Ok, So, to summarize:

Argument #1: Nuh uh

Argument #2: It's not worth my time to make the argument.

You're not really selling your ideas here very well. Facts and examples work better.

PP, if you have time and access to DCUM, then you also have time and access to Google. Google something like: bicycle infrastructure design. Then start reading.

I don't need to sell the idea of the existence of safe bicycle infrastructure to you, just like I don't need to sell the idea that the earth is round to flat-earthers. Both are true, whether you acknowledge them or not.

[Anonymous]

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Ok, So, to summarize:

Argument #1: Nuh uh

Argument #2: It's not worth my time to make the argument.

You're not really selling your ideas here very well. Facts and examples work better.

PP, if you have time and access to DCUM, then you also have time and access to Google. Google something like: bicycle infrastructure design. Then start reading.

I don't need to sell the idea of the existence of safe bicycle infrastructure to you, just like I don't need to sell the idea that the earth is round to flat-earthers. Both are true, whether you acknowledge them or not.

Riding a bike in a big city is inherently dangerous, and there isn't really anything anyone can do about that except ban cars or ban bicyclists.

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Anonymous wrote:When everyone’s working from home, there are too many people on city sidewalks to achieve proper 6 foot spacing.

We need to dedicate streets to walkers and bikers, and close them to cars. Traffic is way down already.

Bowser and the DC council could do this right now.

Dedicate some streets to walkers, runners, and bikers.
Promote social distancing.

Bikes don't belong on sidewalks

Everybody agrees, including people who ride bikes. (With an exception for children biking on the sidewalk.) All the more reason to make it safe and comfortable for people to bike on the street. People who bike tend to be the foremost advocates of making streets safe and comfortable to bike on.

Uh, I’m a cyclist and I definitely DO NOT agree with that. I ride sidewalks because many streets aren’t safe. No bike lane? I’m riding on the sidewalk, I don’t care what other cyclists say.

You go ahead and challenge traffic and be an activist-cyclist. I’m gonna stay alive.

Re-read the statement you're disagreeing with, please - because you're actually agreeing with it.

You're not riding on the sidewalk by choice. You're riding on the sidewalk because the road isn't safe to bike on. The solution is to make the roads safe to bike on.

This is like saying boxing or football should be made safe. They will never be safe.

Neither will riding a bicycle in Washington D.C. Bicyclists seem to have an amazing false sense of security. If you're a bicyclist in DC, you're probably more likely to die being hit by a car than any other cause of death.

What are you, the ghost of John Forester? Of course it's possible to make roads safe to bike on.

Nope. It’s not possible. Not unless there’s a physical separation between the two. Bikes and cars cannot safely use the same lane. And I say this AS a cyclist. Either have a dedicated lane solely for human-powered bikes (and NO that doesn’t mean ebikes!) , or nothing.

You really need to tone down your arrogance PP. You come off like you speak for everyone who rides a bike. Well you definitely DO NOT.

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Nope. It’s not possible. Not unless there’s a physical separation between the two. Bikes and cars cannot safely use the same lane. And I say this AS a cyclist. Either have a dedicated lane solely for human-powered bikes (and NO that doesn’t mean ebikes!) , or nothing.

You really need to tone down your arrogance PP. You come off like you speak for everyone who rides a bike. Well you definitely DO NOT.

An avid cyclist, no doubt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Ok, So, to summarize:

Argument #1: Nuh uh

Argument #2: It's not worth my time to make the argument.

You're not really selling your ideas here very well. Facts and examples work better.

PP, if you have time and access to DCUM, then you also have time and access to Google. Google something like: bicycle infrastructure design. Then start reading.

I don't need to sell the idea of the existence of safe bicycle infrastructure to you, just like I don't need to sell the idea that the earth is round to flat-earthers. Both are true, whether you acknowledge them or not.

Riding a bike in a big city is inherently dangerous, and there isn't really anything anyone can do about that except ban cars or ban bicyclists.

Seems especially dangerous in a city that has legalized pot. Lots of stoned drivers out there, no doubt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ok, So, to summarize:

Argument #1: Nuh uh

Argument #2: It's not worth my time to make the argument.

You're not really selling your ideas here very well. Facts and examples work better.

PP, if you have time and access to DCUM, then you also have time and access to Google. Google something like: bicycle infrastructure design. Then start reading.

I don't need to sell the idea of the existence of safe bicycle infrastructure to you, just like I don't need to sell the idea that the earth is round to flat-earthers. Both are true, whether you acknowledge them or not.

Riding a bike in a big city is inherently dangerous, and there isn't really anything anyone can do about that except ban cars or ban bicyclists.

Seems especially dangerous in a city that has legalized pot. Lots of stoned drivers out there, no doubt.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ok, So, to summarize:

Argument #1: Nuh uh

Argument #2: It's not worth my time to make the argument.

You're not really selling your ideas here very well. Facts and examples work better.

PP, if you have time and access to DCUM, then you also have time and access to Google. Google something like: bicycle infrastructure design. Then start reading.

I don't need to sell the idea of the existence of safe bicycle infrastructure to you, just like I don't need to sell the idea that the earth is round to flat-earthers. Both are true, whether you acknowledge them or not.

Riding a bike in a big city is inherently dangerous, and there isn't really anything anyone can do about that except ban cars or ban bicyclists.

Seems especially dangerous in a city that has legalized pot. Lots of stoned drivers out there, no doubt.

Agreed. Drivers are dangerous, and cars are a hazard. That's why we need more walking, biking, and bus/Metro use, and less driving.

[Anonymous]

Definitely want to encourage more public transportation during a deadly pandemic. Great idea.

[Anonymous]

I love how "sharing the road" has now become "no cars on the road". Now "no cars on the bike trail or sidewalks" is something I can get behind.