WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”

[Anonymous]

This, from Fordham......


https://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/05/fordham-piece-called-warren-harvard-laws-first-woman-of-color-123526

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This, from Fordham......


https://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/05/fordham-piece-called-warren-harvard-laws-first-woman-of-color-123526

Wow. Just wow. Liars unite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, from Fordham......


https://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/05/fordham-piece-called-warren-harvard-laws-first-woman-of-color-123526

Wow. Just wow. Liars unite?

What does this say about Harvard?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, from Fordham......


https://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/05/fordham-piece-called-warren-harvard-laws-first-woman-of-color-123526

Wow. Just wow. Liars unite?

What does this say about Harvard?

Not much. But, I think it has been overrated for a while.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you talk with American families who've been here since the 1700's, most of them have a story saying they are part Indian. I know we did, the family loved to trot the story out. Personally I was always skeptical. Took a DNA test about a year ago, and nope, zero American Indian heritage.

Elizabeth Warren definitely pushed the envelope farther than anyone in my family, but I can see how it happens. I bet it's a story she heard her whole life. To me it doesn't look like she intended any malice, if anything she was proud of being part American Indian.

I'm proud of my French, English, Scottish background, as well as my likely Native American relatives (per family stories) who lived in KY 150+ years ago. Nonetheless, I don't list any of those on my job applications or licenses/certifications.

I check other. No one has ever asked me anything about why. I feel other.

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Anonymous wrote:She married Bruce -- Brown University (BA, MA); Yale University (MPhil, JD, PhD) -- in 1980. She had some status envy and did whatever it took. Nobody on Harvard Law School's roster has her degree mill credentials.

It is likely that she was hired at Penn as a condition for Bruce to make the move to Penn, but she was well-qualified for the position. When he moved to Harvard, she was offered only a part-time position at first. Once she got the job, she again proved herself to be an expert in a field of law that the Ivy alumni don't care about. She did not get either job because of any minority claim, but in both cases, probably because they wanted to hire her husband.

It’s always disaster when a woman, especially a feminist, gets a ride to the top from her husband.

I am even more disappointed in Warren now. She’s quite the fraud.

Penn and Harvard might have been too elitist to recruit her if not for her husband, but she excelled at both places and proved that she deserved to be there.

Many people would excel at those places if they had the opportunity

But very few are craven enough to claim to be a minority in order to get a foot in the door

She was not hired based on minority status at either school. She was hired as merely a visiting professor for 1 year at Harvard, went back to Penn for 2 years, and then was hired as a full professor at Harvard based on her professional accomplishments. Then she was tenured at Harvard, again based on merit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, from Fordham......


https://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/05/fordham-piece-called-warren-harvard-laws-first-woman-of-color-123526

Wow. Just wow. Liars unite?

What does this say about Harvard?

That on paper it looks like they accept a lot of minorities, when in reality they dont give a f.. about them. This is going on now with kids from Nigeria: Harward takes them happily, mark that they accepted certain percentage of AA, and don't give a f... about AA who are really misrepresented in the top universities.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She married Bruce -- Brown University (BA, MA); Yale University (MPhil, JD, PhD) -- in 1980. She had some status envy and did whatever it took. Nobody on Harvard Law School's roster has her degree mill credentials.

It is likely that she was hired at Penn as a condition for Bruce to make the move to Penn, but she was well-qualified for the position. When he moved to Harvard, she was offered only a part-time position at first. Once she got the job, she again proved herself to be an expert in a field of law that the Ivy alumni don't care about. She did not get either job because of any minority claim, but in both cases, probably because they wanted to hire her husband.

It’s always disaster when a woman, especially a feminist, gets a ride to the top from her husband.

I am even more disappointed in Warren now. She’s quite the fraud.

Penn and Harvard might have been too elitist to recruit her if not for her husband, but she excelled at both places and proved that she deserved to be there.

Like they’d say anything else other than she was excellent as the goal was to hire and retain her husband.

They didn't give her a full professorship. She earned that status after she was hired and later earned tenure.

She was doing very well at Texas, and might have stayed there, but she followed her husband to Penn and Harvard for his career, even though it meant giving up tenure in Texas.

Her research forced the financial establishment and policy makers to recognize that bankruptcy laws should not just be for helping rich assholes and corporate creditors who had made bad investments, but that middle-income households were bankrupting themselves over out-of-pocket health costs and overextending themselves to buy houses in good school districts, and maybe the bankruptcy code should be more helpful to those people. Nobody at Harvard or Penn law schools was going to give a shit about those people until Warren did her work at Texas.

[Anonymous]

Elizibeth Warren is clearly a person of color.

White is a color.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like we all can just start listing anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like we all can just start listing anything.

People are allowed to self-identity, yes. For example, many Native American tribes also get very upset when African-Americans claim Native American identity, even though intermarriage between these communities is well documented, because of racism/colorism. We don’t want a system where the state is making determinations based on complexion tests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This, from Fordham......


https://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/05/fordham-piece-called-warren-harvard-laws-first-woman-of-color-123526

Wow. Just wow. Liars unite?

What does this say about Harvard?

That on paper it looks like they accept a lot of minorities, when in reality they dont give a f.. about them. This is going on now with kids from Nigeria: Harward takes them happily, mark that they accepted certain percentage of AA, and don't give a f... about AA who are really misrepresented in the top universities.

+1000. Before I quite alumni interviewing for my ivy, I interviewed a couple of kids from Ghana who received immediate admission as aa. By immediate admission I mean receiving a “likely letter.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She married Bruce -- Brown University (BA, MA); Yale University (MPhil, JD, PhD) -- in 1980. She had some status envy and did whatever it took. Nobody on Harvard Law School's roster has her degree mill credentials.

It is likely that she was hired at Penn as a condition for Bruce to make the move to Penn, but she was well-qualified for the position. When he moved to Harvard, she was offered only a part-time position at first. Once she got the job, she again proved herself to be an expert in a field of law that the Ivy alumni don't care about. She did not get either job because of any minority claim, but in both cases, probably because they wanted to hire her husband.

It’s always disaster when a woman, especially a feminist, gets a ride to the top from her husband.

I am even more disappointed in Warren now. She’s quite the fraud.

Penn and Harvard might have been too elitist to recruit her if not for her husband, but she excelled at both places and proved that she deserved to be there.

Many people would excel at those places if they had the opportunity

But very few are craven enough to claim to be a minority in order to get a foot in the door

She was not hired based on minority status at either school. She was hired as merely a visiting professor for 1 year at Harvard, went back to Penn for 2 years, and then was hired as a full professor at Harvard based on her professional accomplishments. Then she was tenured at Harvard, again based on merit.

How do you know that those hiring her didn't consider the fact that they thought she was a Native American?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like we all can just start listing anything.

Isn't it fluid, like a gender?

[Anonymous]

There are lots of good candidates without scandals. Warren is done. Kamala isn’t done yet but will be in for a rough ride over her “sleeping her way to the top with a married man” problem.