WaPo uncovers Liz Warren’s 1986 bar app. Race handwritten as “American Indian”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She married Bruce -- Brown University (BA, MA); Yale University (MPhil, JD, PhD) -- in 1980. She had some status envy and did whatever it took. Nobody on Harvard Law School's roster has her degree mill credentials.

You are gossiping.

DP: it’s called opinion and discussion

My God is a Christian Church lady here policing the forums?

You are presenting your gossip as fact. That's not discussion. That's called jealousy based gossip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:She married Bruce -- Brown University (BA, MA); Yale University (MPhil, JD, PhD) -- in 1980. She had some status envy and did whatever it took. Nobody on Harvard Law School's roster has her degree mill credentials.

It is likely that she was hired at Penn as a condition for Bruce to make the move to Penn, but she was well-qualified for the position. When he moved to Harvard, she was offered only a part-time position at first. Once she got the job, she again proved herself to be an expert in a field of law that the Ivy alumni don't care about. She did not get either job because of any minority claim, but in both cases, probably because they wanted to hire her husband.

It’s always disaster when a woman, especially a feminist, gets a ride to the top from her husband.

I am even more disappointed in Warren now. She’s quite the fraud.

As if you were ever appreciated Warren.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She married Bruce -- Brown University (BA, MA); Yale University (MPhil, JD, PhD) -- in 1980. She had some status envy and did whatever it took. Nobody on Harvard Law School's roster has her degree mill credentials.

You are gossiping.

DP: it’s called opinion and discussion

My God is a Christian Church lady here policing the forums?

You are presenting your gossip as fact. That's not discussion. That's called jealousy based gossip.

DP dolt

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She married Bruce -- Brown University (BA, MA); Yale University (MPhil, JD, PhD) -- in 1980. She had some status envy and did whatever it took. Nobody on Harvard Law School's roster has her degree mill credentials.

It is likely that she was hired at Penn as a condition for Bruce to make the move to Penn, but she was well-qualified for the position. When he moved to Harvard, she was offered only a part-time position at first. Once she got the job, she again proved herself to be an expert in a field of law that the Ivy alumni don't care about. She did not get either job because of any minority claim, but in both cases, probably because they wanted to hire her husband.

It’s always disaster when a woman, especially a feminist, gets a ride to the top from her husband.

I am even more disappointed in Warren now. She’s quite the fraud.

Penn and Harvard might have been too elitist to recruit her if not for her husband, but she excelled at both places and proved that she deserved to be there.

[Anonymous]

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Unless you can prove that she gained professionally by claiming to be American Indian, I consider it a mistake. You feeling does not count. A mistake is still a mistake. But I do not consider that to be disqualifying to be candidate for Presidency, especially when she is courageous enough to have bold proposals to improve the condition of the country and sound plan.

I think you are the one who is letting feelings overrule facts.

No, my feeling has nothing to do with it. I have listened to Warren on her policies and researched what she has done so far. I am open to hear her debate other Democratic candidate. So far I liked her policy positions and experiences. But I also like Klobuchar. So, I am not deciding my vote yet. What I am objecting is demonizing Warren for what I consider a low level mistake while our country is burning from fraud, racism, corruption and greed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She married Bruce -- Brown University (BA, MA); Yale University (MPhil, JD, PhD) -- in 1980. She had some status envy and did whatever it took. Nobody on Harvard Law School's roster has her degree mill credentials.

You are gossiping.

DP: it’s called opinion and discussion

My God is a Christian Church lady here policing the forums?

You are presenting your gossip as fact. That's not discussion. That's called jealousy based gossip.

Prove the poster wrong then. You don’t know it’s gossip.


Warren is done so find a new candidate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How did putting this down benefit her? Was their affirmative action in registering to join the Bar? If not, what difference does this make?

You don't think her background was considered when she was applying for jobs?

I see nothing here indicating that she put down American Indian when applying for a job - just on her form when she registered for the Bar.

So, she claimed to be white on all other forms she filled out.
That means she lied on this one. Do you not see that as a problem?

I don't even know if race was on the other forms she filled out. Maybe she saw herself as both races, and sometimes put down one or the other. Until you can tell me where she put down American Indian and show that it benefitted her this is a "nothing burger".

“Nothingburger”? Okay Hillary, here are some other questionable things Warren did with regard to claiming to be Cherokee in order to further her career:

1. Warren self identified as “Native American” in the Association of American Law Schools Directory of Professors, in every print edition from 1986-1995
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/04/29/elizabeth-warren-was-listed-minority-professor-law-directories-and/yBZTdrH3Qt8xRu6KZkLDlO/amp.html

2. After joining Penn, Warren had the school change her listed ethnicity from white to “Native American”
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/05/30/elizabeth-warren-acknowledges-telling-harvard-penn-native-american-status/e7rnUDG6kAKvjZJQNr8wjL/story.html

3. Warren was identified by Harvard Law as a “woman of color” Harvard promoted Warren’s hiring as an expansion of campus diversity by hiring a woman of “minority background “ on their faculty
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/05/24/federal-documents-indicate-harvard-repeatedly-reported-elizabeth-warren-native-american/OZdiCFhjx5CCH3Es0sREHM/amp.html

4. Warren submitted several recipes to the Native American cookbook “Pow Wow Chow” and referred to herself in that book as “Elizabeth Warren- Cherokee”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146628/Elizabeth-Warrens-Pow-Wow-Chow-Cherokee-recipes-word-word-COPIES-famous-FRENCH-chefs-techniques.html

5. Warren used offensive, racially charged language to support her claim of Cherokee ancestry, stating that her family had “high cheekbones” like “all the Indians do”
https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/elizabeth-warren-native-american-pocahontas/index.html

The Texas bar registration card that is in the news is just a symptom of a larger issue

The cnn piece you quote says nothing about "like all the Indians do" Take ONE criticism, and actually give a good link.

The thing about recipes I cannot follow in a sloppy article about a family cookbook.

Again, the person who hired her at Harvard said her race had NOTHING to do with her hiring.m All this was litigated already years ago. Nothing new.

There’s plenty of evidence above to show that Warren has behaved shamefully in claiming to be a member of a Native American tribe to further her own career. Your inability to follow articles is your problem.

All of this was “litigated” years ago? Really? In which court?

All of this information has been public knowledge for quite a while. We can thank the voters in Massachusetts for overlooking Warren’s flimsy claims and allowing this situation to come to a point where it damages the Democratic Party on a national level at a very critical time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She married Bruce -- Brown University (BA, MA); Yale University (MPhil, JD, PhD) -- in 1980. She had some status envy and did whatever it took. Nobody on Harvard Law School's roster has her degree mill credentials.

It is likely that she was hired at Penn as a condition for Bruce to make the move to Penn, but she was well-qualified for the position. When he moved to Harvard, she was offered only a part-time position at first. Once she got the job, she again proved herself to be an expert in a field of law that the Ivy alumni don't care about. She did not get either job because of any minority claim, but in both cases, probably because they wanted to hire her husband.

It’s always disaster when a woman, especially a feminist, gets a ride to the top from her husband.

I am even more disappointed in Warren now. She’s quite the fraud.

Penn and Harvard might have been too elitist to recruit her if not for her husband, but she excelled at both places and proved that she deserved to be there.

Many people would excel at those places if they had the opportunity

But very few are craven enough to claim to be a minority in order to get a foot in the door

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She married Bruce -- Brown University (BA, MA); Yale University (MPhil, JD, PhD) -- in 1980. She had some status envy and did whatever it took. Nobody on Harvard Law School's roster has her degree mill credentials.

It is likely that she was hired at Penn as a condition for Bruce to make the move to Penn, but she was well-qualified for the position. When he moved to Harvard, she was offered only a part-time position at first. Once she got the job, she again proved herself to be an expert in a field of law that the Ivy alumni don't care about. She did not get either job because of any minority claim, but in both cases, probably because they wanted to hire her husband.

It’s always disaster when a woman, especially a feminist, gets a ride to the top from her husband.

I am even more disappointed in Warren now. She’s quite the fraud.

Penn and Harvard might have been too elitist to recruit her if not for her husband, but she excelled at both places and proved that she deserved to be there.

Like they’d say anything else other than she was excellent as the goal was to hire and retain her husband.

[Anonymous]

HLS, 1996

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It seems like this lie reflects a fairly fundamental lack of honesty and integrity on Warren’s part. I’m sure I’d have gained certain advantages professionally by mischaracterizing my race or ethnicity, but it would have been disrespectful to both my family and others. She’s not a viable candidate and should bow out and allow others with more authenticity to take the stage.

[Anonymous]

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Warren suggests other documents might come out on which she claimed to be Native American.

"This was consistent with what I did" at the time, she says.

So, she's now admitting her role in all of this discussion. I don't believe that's what she was saying previously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems like this lie reflects a fairly fundamental lack of honesty and integrity on Warren’s part. I’m sure I’d have gained certain advantages professionally by mischaracterizing my race or ethnicity, but it would have been disrespectful to both my family and others. She’s not a viable candidate and should bow out and allow others with more authenticity to take the stage.

I think the first sign of her lack of authenticity was her drinking a beer on live stream and thanking her husband for being there. This just confirms it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you talk with American families who've been here since the 1700's, most of them have a story saying they are part Indian. I know we did, the family loved to trot the story out. Personally I was always skeptical. Took a DNA test about a year ago, and nope, zero American Indian heritage.

Elizabeth Warren definitely pushed the envelope farther than anyone in my family, but I can see how it happens. I bet it's a story she heard her whole life. To me it doesn't look like she intended any malice, if anything she was proud of being part American Indian.

I'm proud of my French, English, Scottish background, as well as my likely Native American relatives (per family stories) who lived in KY 150+ years ago. Nonetheless, I don't list any of those on my job applications or licenses/certifications.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She married Bruce -- Brown University (BA, MA); Yale University (MPhil, JD, PhD) -- in 1980. She had some status envy and did whatever it took. Nobody on Harvard Law School's roster has her degree mill credentials.

It is likely that she was hired at Penn as a condition for Bruce to make the move to Penn, but she was well-qualified for the position. When he moved to Harvard, she was offered only a part-time position at first. Once she got the job, she again proved herself to be an expert in a field of law that the Ivy alumni don't care about. She did not get either job because of any minority claim, but in both cases, probably because they wanted to hire her husband.

So she lied about being an under-represented minority AND road her more accomplished husband's coattails to U-T, Penn and Harvard? Lovely.