MD report cards are out!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:sorry for the double post - But I am doubly angry after moving through this thread.

I think you should be less angry. Find a job in one of the tutoring companies or start one. This is a ripe market for supplementing income for high ability kids, especially Asian-Americans.

Regardless of how good or bad a school system is, Asian-American students have always studied at an accelerated pace and with more rigor. Majority also keep an eye on the curriculum being followed by students in their country of origin, so they have a great understanding of what is required to be globally competitive. If private schools and catholic schools were better than public in academics, Asian-Americans would enroll their students in those schools.

It would be great if people stopped peddling model-minority stereotypes on this forum (or anywhere else).

Also, the country of origin for Asian-Americans who were born in the US is: the US. Right?

+1 million. It's not a myth; it's a stereotype that is both inaccurate (see NYC stats about poorest minority groups) and harmful.

Data does not lie. Look at the achievements of Asian-Americans in all schools and see where they are. Yes, the Asian-Americans who are in the US are US citizens born and raised here. But unlike many other immigrant stories, the parents have not cut off their relationship with their country of origin and they are highly educated professionals who have come to US. They will never dismiss the education that they got in their home country that allowed them to come to US, and they will always compare the education that they got in Asia to the education and rigor their children get here. While most of them are happy that US is not a pressure cooker enviornment, they are aware that the pace, rigor, and expectation is dismally low.

If Asian-Americans had not outperformed Whites in this country, no one would be talking about achievement gaps. Achievement gap always existed between the Whites and Blacks/other minorities, but when the Asians started taking seats from Whites, the gap became the bleeding hemorrhoids in the backside of the policymakers. Blacks and Hispanic children are not those who are impacted by Asian-American achievements. it is the Whites who are most advantaged when Asian-Americans are not given seats and opportunities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting that in DD's elementary school, the Special Ed kids (of which DD is one) show almost 60% proficient. But when you look at MS and HS, the percentage slips to the teens. I wonder why that is.

My guess is that it’s skmewhat easier to get an IEP in elementary school for issues that don’t necesssariky relate to academic performance (like behavioral issues that may affect access to curriculum). By HS, most of those kids are downgraded to a 504 and the ones that still have IEPs are more likely to have disabilities that more directly affect academics.

[Anonymous]

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Data does not lie. Look at the achievements of Asian-Americans in all schools and see where they are. Yes, the Asian-Americans who are in the US are US citizens born and raised here. But unlike many other immigrant stories, the parents have not cut off their relationship with their country of origin and they are highly educated professionals who have come to US. They will never dismiss the education that they got in their home country that allowed them to come to US, and they will always compare the education that they got in Asia to the education and rigor their children get here. While most of them are happy that US is not a pressure cooker enviornment, they are aware that the pace, rigor, and expectation is dismally low.

If Asian-Americans had not outperformed Whites in this country, no one would be talking about achievement gaps. Achievement gap always existed between the Whites and Blacks/other minorities, but when the Asians started taking seats from Whites, the gap became the bleeding hemorrhoids in the backside of the policymakers. Blacks and Hispanic children are not those who are impacted by Asian-American achievements. it is the Whites who are most advantaged when Asian-Americans are not given seats and opportunities.

No, but you sure can lie with data. Or even just mis-state it.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018/07/12/income-inequality-in-the-u-s-is-rising-most-rapidly-among-asians/

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/08/key-facts-about-asian-americans/

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Anonymous wrote:Wootton #1 overall.
Suck it, magnets and other Ws.

? Magnets are in schools with much higher FARMs rate than Wootton. The data is for the entire schools, not just for the magnet cohort.

Kind of pathetic to be comparing a school that has almost no FARMs rate to a school with 20%+ FARMs rate. WJ also has a higher FARMS rate than Wootton.

Yes, they can’t be serious. At the very least compare statistically significant common cohorts, greater than 20% of a schools overall population, on meaningful national metric like SAT as opposed to PARCC which the state has abandoned.

[Anonymous]

Instead of race, why not use more nuanced SES and not just FARMS? Education of parents and a range of HHi.

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We chose Catholic schools. They are not the most rigorous, and in fact, may not be as rigorous as some publics (like W schools). BUT, my kids know how to write! It is amazing how far ahead they are of their peers in public schools. They know cursive and can diagram a sentence. Yes, the public schools have chosen to focus on math and push kids beyond their limits in math. But my kid actually has a good foundation in math, unlike many in public school who never learned their facts, but are tracking to do AP Calc in their junior year. SAD!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:sorry for the double post - But I am doubly angry after moving through this thread.

I think you should be less angry. Find a job in one of the tutoring companies or start one. This is a ripe market for supplementing income for high ability kids, especially Asian-Americans.

Regardless of how good or bad a school system is, Asian-American students have always studied at an accelerated pace and with more rigor. Majority also keep an eye on the curriculum being followed by students in their country of origin, so they have a great understanding of what is required to be globally competitive. If private schools and catholic schools were better than public in academics, Asian-Americans would enroll their students in those schools.

No they wouldn't. The culture would not mesh with theirs. Most private schools have a village mentality, in which I don't get the sense most Asian Americans would participate. They are way competitive and in it for themselves...at least, that has been my experience when my kids were in public school. Just an observation...stereotype as some may call it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We chose Catholic schools. They are not the most rigorous, and in fact, may not be as rigorous as some publics (like W schools). BUT, my kids know how to write! It is amazing how far ahead they are of their peers in public schools. They know cursive and can diagram a sentence. Yes, the public schools have chosen to focus on math and push kids beyond their limits in math. But my kid actually has a good foundation in math, unlike many in public school who never learned their facts, but are tracking to do AP Calc in their junior year. SAD!!

How are you comparing? Regularly quizzing local public school kids on their math facts and asking for writing samples?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:sorry for the double post - But I am doubly angry after moving through this thread.

I think you should be less angry. Find a job in one of the tutoring companies or start one. This is a ripe market for supplementing income for high ability kids, especially Asian-Americans.

Regardless of how good or bad a school system is, Asian-American students have always studied at an accelerated pace and with more rigor. Majority also keep an eye on the curriculum being followed by students in their country of origin, so they have a great understanding of what is required to be globally competitive. If private schools and catholic schools were better than public in academics, Asian-Americans would enroll their students in those schools.

No they wouldn't. The culture would not mesh with theirs. Most private schools have a village mentality, in which I don't get the sense most Asian Americans would participate. They are way competitive and in it for themselves...at least, that has been my experience when my kids were in public school. Just an observation...stereotype as some may call it.

Yes, this is exactly what I have said. There are benefits to private schools that others value. However, since they are not as great for academics for Asian-Americans, there is no reason for them to be there. They do not give the bang for the educational dollars that make them worthwhile for Asian-Americans. Asians know that they will have to shell out money for AOPS, FLL, Chinese school, classical music, SAT prep, classical dance, swim club etc anyways regardless of if they are in public (for free) or private (for $$$$). Since a lot of enrichment and acceleration happens outside of school, they will be ahead academically regardless of if they are in public or private. In this way, for them, academically, private schools are no better than public, and they are for certain not better than many high performing public school and the selective magnets. The Asian students do very well with similar ability cohort and are very collaborative. However, you are correct, they usually stay away from the negative influences that is rampant in MCPS. It is not a fluke that the rape incidents in Rockville HS, or the rape in Damascus HS, was not committed by Asian-American students. Very few will be allowed by their parents and upbringing to associate with toxic environment and culture, even if that means that they are ostracized for being nerds and uncool. Of course, there are always some who are bad eggs.

However, check out the data if it is available about how many Asian Americans actually complete their SSL hours and community service before they go to HS and how many continue to contribute their hours to worthy causes to rack up hundreds of community hours before they graduate HS. They are not in it for themselves, but they do skirt clear of breaking rules and laws. They can't help it because even if they want to be bad, their parents will not tolerate indiscipline and bad behavior. The sense of family honor and personal responsibility is ingrained in them by their parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:sorry for the double post - But I am doubly angry after moving through this thread.

I think you should be less angry. Find a job in one of the tutoring companies or start one. This is a ripe market for supplementing income for high ability kids, especially Asian-Americans.

Regardless of how good or bad a school system is, Asian-American students have always studied at an accelerated pace and with more rigor. Majority also keep an eye on the curriculum being followed by students in their country of origin, so they have a great understanding of what is required to be globally competitive. If private schools and catholic schools were better than public in academics, Asian-Americans would enroll their students in those schools.

No they wouldn't. The culture would not mesh with theirs. Most private schools have a village mentality, in which I don't get the sense most Asian Americans would participate. They are way competitive and in it for themselves...at least, that has been my experience when my kids were in public school. Just an observation...stereotype as some may call it.

Yes, this is exactly what I have said. There are benefits to private schools that others value. However, since they are not as great for academics for Asian-Americans, there is no reason for them to be there. They do not give the bang for the educational dollars that make them worthwhile for Asian-Americans. Asians know that they will have to shell out money for AOPS, FLL, Chinese school, classical music, SAT prep, classical dance, swim club etc anyways regardless of if they are in public (for free) or private (for $$$$). Since a lot of enrichment and acceleration happens outside of school, they will be ahead academically regardless of if they are in public or private. In this way, for them, academically, private schools are no better than public, and they are for certain not better than many high performing public school and the selective magnets. The Asian students do very well with similar ability cohort and are very collaborative. However, you are correct, they usually stay away from the negative influences that is rampant in MCPS. It is not a fluke that the rape incidents in Rockville HS, or the rape in Damascus HS, was not committed by Asian-American students. Very few will be allowed by their parents and upbringing to associate with toxic environment and culture, even if that means that they are ostracized for being nerds and uncool. Of course, there are always some who are bad eggs.

However, check out the data if it is available about how many Asian Americans actually complete their SSL hours and community service before they go to HS and how many continue to contribute their hours to worthy causes to rack up hundreds of community hours before they graduate HS. They are not in it for themselves, but they do skirt clear of breaking rules and laws. They can't help it because even if they want to be bad, their parents will not tolerate indiscipline and bad behavior. The sense of family honor and personal responsibility is ingrained in them by their parents.

There are plenty of Asian Americans at the top private schools, which absolutely have better academics than public schools (outside of *some* magnets in *some* subject areas).

- Andover grad

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
There are plenty of Asian Americans at the top private schools, which absolutely have better academics than public schools (outside of *some* magnets in *some* subject areas).

- Andover grad

O u funny

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There are plenty of Asian Americans at the top private schools, which absolutely have better academics than public schools (outside of *some* magnets in *some* subject areas).

- Andover grad

O u funny

You know I’m right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So happy that my kids school got a 5! I always thought that Barnsley was great and nice to see them score so well! Principal and staff work so hard and its nice to see the high score!

Please don't assume that the principals and staff don't work hard at lower rated schools. I have friends at 5 star schools who would die if they had to work at my 3 star school. They are used to supportive parents students who come to school regularly and are ready to learn. Heck, many of the students are already at the EOY benchmack on the first day of school. Today, I had 9 students absent out of 22 (normally it is between 7-10) and a 2nd grader throw a chair at me while cursing me out. We had to evacuate the classroom and lost 35 mins of instructional time. And it's on Tuesday!

+1. Teachers in high needs schools work so much harder. I really believe their pay should reflect that too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:sorry for the double post - But I am doubly angry after moving through this thread.

I think you should be less angry. Find a job in one of the tutoring companies or start one. This is a ripe market for supplementing income for high ability kids, especially Asian-Americans.

Regardless of how good or bad a school system is, Asian-American students have always studied at an accelerated pace and with more rigor. Majority also keep an eye on the curriculum being followed by students in their country of origin, so they have a great understanding of what is required to be globally competitive. If private schools and catholic schools were better than public in academics, Asian-Americans would enroll their students in those schools.

No they wouldn't. The culture would not mesh with theirs. Most private schools have a village mentality, in which I don't get the sense most Asian Americans would participate. They are way competitive and in it for themselves...at least, that has been my experience when my kids were in public school. Just an observation...stereotype as some may call it.

Yes, this is exactly what I have said. There are benefits to private schools that others value. However, since they are not as great for academics for Asian-Americans, there is no reason for them to be there. They do not give the bang for the educational dollars that make them worthwhile for Asian-Americans. Asians know that they will have to shell out money for AOPS, FLL, Chinese school, classical music, SAT prep, classical dance, swim club etc anyways regardless of if they are in public (for free) or private (for $$$$). Since a lot of enrichment and acceleration happens outside of school, they will be ahead academically regardless of if they are in public or private. In this way, for them, academically, private schools are no better than public, and they are for certain not better than many high performing public school and the selective magnets. The Asian students do very well with similar ability cohort and are very collaborative. However, you are correct, they usually stay away from the negative influences that is rampant in MCPS. It is not a fluke that the rape incidents in Rockville HS, or the rape in Damascus HS, was not committed by Asian-American students. Very few will be allowed by their parents and upbringing to associate with toxic environment and culture, even if that means that they are ostracized for being nerds and uncool. Of course, there are always some who are bad eggs.

However, check out the data if it is available about how many Asian Americans actually complete their SSL hours and community service before they go to HS and how many continue to contribute their hours to worthy causes to rack up hundreds of community hours before they graduate HS. They are not in it for themselves, but they do skirt clear of breaking rules and laws. They can't help it because even if they want to be bad, their parents will not tolerate indiscipline and bad behavior. The sense of family honor and personal responsibility is ingrained in them by their parents.

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Uh, an Asian kid brought a gun to Clarksburg HS last year to shoot the place up. Thankfully, someone turned him in.

An Asian kid is responsible for the VA Tech massacre and another Asian kid decapitated a friend/fellow student in the VA Tech cafeteria.

Please stop fetishizing Asians. Check the Asian test scores at low performing schools (ex. DCC) and your theory completely falls apart. SES affects Asians just like all other groups.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, so QO got the same grade as Rockville? 66%? Guess those house prices are not worth it afterall.

It's just cause they don't have the asians to make up for the scores. Barely any asians. That is why wootton scored even higher than churchill and why northwest and clarksburg did much better than they really are as schools. Awful schools, okay scores.