Limiting legal immigration and being anti-immigration are two different things. But, you know that, don’t you? You’re not that dumb. From the article you linked:
What, specifically, is wrong with this? How is this “anti-immigration?” |
Good. Whatever he does to limit or increase immigration, at least it'll be done via the proper channels as mandated by our country's laws and processes. The lawlessness at the border needed to end yesterday. Illegal immigration is THE issue that got Trump elected and you Liberals are still digging in your heels about it. This level of unfettered border crossing is completely unsustainable and you're not going to win. Meanwhile, our local schools are going to shit, precipitous decline in the last 10 years and there is no way your name calling and other liberal hypocritical BS is going to stop people from taking note and doing something about it. Deport the illegals and we can talk about legal immigration levels. |
MS-14 still not our biggest problem. Just a convenient boogeyman. |
It is a symptom of a bigger problem - illegal immigration. It demonstrates how deadly an open border policy can be (which is essentially what we have had for the last 10 years). |
How deadly is it though? <1% of homicides. I think if you were really worried about homicides you’d focus on the big hitters. Not a handful of deaths. Mostly inter-gang violence. But you’re not worried about homicides and violence. You just want a boogeyman to hate. |
I think all gangs and violence should be targeted. But, when we talk about the violence in places like Chicago and Baltimore, we get scolded around here. These guys are particularly gruesome. Violent. And, they recruit from our schools. |
Yes, that’s the core message of the propaganda: “they are coming after your kids!!!!!” |
Open Door Policy? Then why has immigration DROPPED over the last 10 years? http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/25/as-mexican-share-declined-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population-fell-in-2015-below-recession-level/ ![]() |
Interesting. Not I expect Trump or his supporters to listen to facts.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/19/two-charts-demolish-the-notion-that-immigrants-here-illegally-commit-more-crime/?hpid=hp_no-name_rhp-card-national%3Ahomepage%2Fcard&utm_term=.52ffec1aa109 |
LOL |
Because the US sucks now? Mostly we bring in illegal immigrants and remind them that they don’t belong here so that we can grossly under pay them while having them work long hours in boring, dangerous , physically demanding or gruesome jobs. The point isn’t altruism but for corporations to enrich themselves and their stock holders, for us to be able to buy cheap ‘stuff’ and food and for cheap services for rich people like landscaping. A meat packing plant in Ohio was just cleared of it’s illegal immigrant work force. Guess they’ll have to start paying workers market rates ( which will be high) or to import visa workers. http://www.newsweek.com/ice-arrests-146-undocumented-immigrants-ohio-meat-packing-plants-986414 |
But were the employers/company owners charged?? It said in the article there was evidence that they knowingly hired undocumented workers, but I did t see anything about ramifications for doing so. That is something that has to be fixed- if there are not severe enough consequences for employers who break the law there will continue to be demand for illegal workers. Cut off the demand and you reduce the supply. |
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/fairfax/11-ms-13-gang-members-charged-in-connection-with-murders-of-2-juveniles/65-566662162
In August 2016, Elmer Zelaya Martinez, Erick Palacios Ruiz, Ronald Herrera Contreras, and Josue Vigil Meija brought a 17-year-old male to Holmes Run park and killed him. They believed the male was a member of a rival gang, the office of the US Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia stated in a press release. After the murder, the four people and their co-conspirators involved tried to hide evidence linking them to the case. They buried the juvenile's remains. In September 2016, Elmer Zelaya Martinez, Erick Palacios Ruiz, Ronald Herrera Contreras, Henry Zelaya Martinez, Oscar Contreras Aguilar, Yonathan Melgar Martinez, Pablo Miguel Barrera Velasco, Anderson Villatoro, Francisco Avila Avalos, and Fredys Baires Abarca brought a 14-year-old male to the same park in Fairfax County and killed him because they thought he was involved with law enforcement. Officials said this juvenile's remains were also buried. |
OMG. Two of these are my former students. |
Very sad. Along with the THOUSANDS of other murders unrelated to MS-13. Fear mongers. |