Trump - “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?”

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Anonymous wrote:Ignoring his language what about merit based immigration? Does the whole of this country revolve around Mexico, Central America, Haiti, and Africa?

The southern border illegals number in the millions. DH is discussing Trump, etc with a relative in another jurisdiction. Few if any illegals. Less than 200 Obama unaccompanied minors in the entire county. The entire state of Vermont got 5 through fiscal year 2017. Can we send the 13000 to Vermont?

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Apparently, the U.S. is the only country not allowed to limit immigration and decide who to admit. Every other country, however, is perfectly able to do so.

Don’t like it? Leave. The Hungarians would love you.

I would say the same to you. Don't like a stricter immigration policy? Leave. India is wide open.

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2. 53% of all immigrants in the US are on welfare, it's not like they are just living here cost free.

Who told you that, Donald Trump?

[Anonymous]

A shitholer:

Two weeks ago a 26-year old soldier raced repeatedly into a burning Bronx apartment building, saving four people before he died in the flames. His name was Pvt. Emmanuel Mensah and he immigrated from Ghana, one of Trump’s shithole countries.

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Does anyone honestly think that mass waves of German immigration, Irish immigration and Italian immigration did not change the essential character of the country?

Those countries even have relatively similar cultures to begin with compared with other nations.

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jsteele wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Collectively, I’m truly afraid that America has lost its humanity. Trump is unspeakably awful. It’s heartbreaking because I have face the fact that he’s what we deserve, because our stupid, arrogant, selfish, paranoid nation elected him (and yeah, I get he didn’t win the the general election. That gives me little comfort). I’m so sad for my kids because I do believe that a generation from now America as we know it (under our current constitution) will be no more.

Yes I’m sure your children will be much better off in a majority minority country. much, much better off. No doubt in my mind

Why wouldn't they be?

You remember what happened in Yugoslavia right?

You either get inter-ethnic conflict, or you need authoritarian measures to keep the peace. Either is a pretty dismal scenario.

Those are not the only two possibilities. Switzerland is an example of a country with multiple ethnolinguistic groups that doesn't fit either scenario. The US is attracting the best and the brightest from most of the so-called shitholes. Indeed, until recently, one of Trump's top aids was of Haitian origin. I'm sure she is thrilled to know what Trump thinks about her heritage.

The swiss have been able to keep their federation together for 1000 years. Part of this is national service that unites people in a common experience, part of it is their system of government via direct democracy. Likewise it is the same system of the canton system that allows for wide latitude in interpreting their federal laws, basically giving a lot of autonomy.

Here in the USA we have very little that unites us other than consumerism.

Let me tell you something. It's damn difficult to immigrate into Switzerland. It's one of THE most diffcult countries to immigrate to.

Yep. It's very difficult to immigrate to many countries, but the U.S. apparently should welcome everyone.

Because we are exceptional. Duh.

Also a LOT larger than Switzerland.

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2. 53% of all immigrants in the US are on welfare, it's not like they are just living here cost free.

Who told you that, Donald Trump?

We shot down the statistic the last time PP trotted it out. They seem to be getting desperate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A shitholer:

Two weeks ago a 26-year old soldier raced repeatedly into a burning Bronx apartment building, saving four people before he died in the flames. His name was Pvt. Emmanuel Mensah and he immigrated from Ghana, one of Trump’s shithole countries.

THIS

Immigrants from shithole countries are some of the finest Americans I know.

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2. 53% of all immigrants in the US are on welfare, it's not like they are just living here cost free.

Who told you that, Donald Trump?

The numbers I've seen are in the 40% range for legal immigrants, but cash payments are essentially zero. Mainly state Medicaid programs, snap, free lunch, and section 8.

If those numbers are true it means that our system is broken.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A shitholer:

Two weeks ago a 26-year old soldier raced repeatedly into a burning Bronx apartment building, saving four people before he died in the flames. His name was Pvt. Emmanuel Mensah and he immigrated from Ghana, one of Trump’s shithole countries.

We have neighbors from Ghana. They will tell you straight out that they are not from the rest of s-hole Africa

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone honestly think that mass waves of German immigration, Irish immigration and Italian immigration did not change the essential character of the country?

Those countries even have relatively similar cultures to begin with compared with other nations.

Yes, those “mass waves” of immigration did change the “essential character of the country.”

FOR THE BETTER.
- DAR-eligible American

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

2. 53% of all immigrants in the US are on welfare, it's not like they are just living here cost free.

Who told you that, Donald Trump?

The numbers I've seen are in the 40% range for legal immigrants, but cash payments are essentially zero. Mainly state Medicaid programs, snap, free lunch, and section 8.

If those numbers are true it means that our system is broken.

Oh please do share with us “the numbers you’ve seen.” TIA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait this is real? God help us all.

I just heard about this and quickly read up on it. This was my reaction as well.

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Collectively, I’m truly afraid that America has lost its humanity. Trump is unspeakably awful. It’s heartbreaking because I have face the fact that he’s what we deserve, because our stupid, arrogant, selfish, paranoid nation elected him (and yeah, I get he didn’t win the the general election. That gives me little comfort). I’m so sad for my kids because I do believe that a generation from now America as we know it (under our current constitution) will be no more.

Yes I’m sure your children will be much better off in a majority minority country. much, much better off. No doubt in my mind

Why wouldn't they be?

Great question. Can you think of any reason at all? Any reason at all that we shouldn’t lament the passing of the country from the European Americans who led it for 200 to 250 years and achieved greatness with it ON THE BACKS OF SLAVES? Or is that RACIST and NOT OKAY and OFF LIMITS?

FTFY

Thank you. I was about to do that myself.

FFS. And that PP probably thinks of himself as being superior to the immigrants he wants to keep out.

Most white trash does.

+1. Also, they can't deal when someone identifies certain parts of the U.S. as "shithole states".

Yet again, it's perfectly acceptable for white liberals to refer to certain states and regions of the U.S. as "shitholes." But if anyone refers to certain countries as shitholes, well... RACISTS!! So entertaining to see hypocrisy at work.

*snort* Good job proving the point.

[Anonymous]

The United States has lost its way. We no longer have a moral compass to lead ourselves, much less the world. The decline of the American age is underway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Collectively, I’m truly afraid that America has lost its humanity. Trump is unspeakably awful. It’s heartbreaking because I have face the fact that he’s what we deserve, because our stupid, arrogant, selfish, paranoid nation elected him (and yeah, I get he didn’t win the the general election. That gives me little comfort). I’m so sad for my kids because I do believe that a generation from now America as we know it (under our current constitution) will be no more.

Yes I’m sure your children will be much better off in a majority minority country. much, much better off. No doubt in my mind

Why wouldn't they be?

You remember what happened in Yugoslavia right?

You either get inter-ethnic conflict, or you need authoritarian measures to keep the peace. Either is a pretty dismal scenario.

Those are not the only two possibilities. Switzerland is an example of a country with multiple ethnolinguistic groups that doesn't fit either scenario. The US is attracting the best and the brightest from most of the so-called shitholes. Indeed, until recently, one of Trump's top aids was of Haitian origin. I'm sure she is thrilled to know what Trump thinks about her heritage.

The swiss have been able to keep their federation together for 1000 years. Part of this is national service that unites people in a common experience, part of it is their system of government via direct democracy. Likewise it is the same system of the canton system that allows for wide latitude in interpreting their federal laws, basically giving a lot of autonomy.

Here in the USA we have very little that unites us other than consumerism.

I love the idea of national service for every American. Military, Peace Corps, AmeriCorps. Say what you will about Israel, their share of military service is one of the contributors to their national cohesion.