How are Mormons so nice?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.

Well, this was forbidden by the church a number of years ago. But if you want to know why people do it, it is because they believe that someone's eternal salvation is dependent on making and keeping covenants with God. These covenants are made as part of ordinances such as baptism. Our church baptizes the dead because we believe that individuals continue to learn and progress after death, and the ordinance is offered to those who cannot complete it for themselves. We believe that people have agency or the freedom to choose whether to accept it. So in other words, Mormons felt compassion for Holocaust victims and were trying to do a service for them.

The question that I have is why this is so offensive? If you think it is bunk then no harm done.

Let me get this straight. Someone Jewish dies for their religion and YOU -- out of "compassion" -- baptize them after death to be Christian? And you believe they have the agency or freedom to choose whether or not to accept it and learn and progress after death?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.

Well, this was forbidden by the church a number of years ago. But if you want to know why people do it, it is because they believe that someone's eternal salvation is dependent on making and keeping covenants with God. These covenants are made as part of ordinances such as baptism. Our church baptizes the dead because we believe that individuals continue to learn and progress after death, and the ordinance is offered to those who cannot complete it for themselves. We believe that people have agency or the freedom to choose whether to accept it. So in other words, Mormons felt compassion for Holocaust victims and were trying to do a service for them.

The question that I have is why this is so offensive? If you think it is bunk then no harm done.

Let's say your mother was murdered for her religion. And then you find out that somebody of a different religion, which is a proselytizing religion, doesn't just proselytize living people -- it also proselytizes dead people, including your mother. How would you feel about this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.

Well, this was forbidden by the church a number of years ago. But if you want to know why people do it, it is because they believe that someone's eternal salvation is dependent on making and keeping covenants with God. These covenants are made as part of ordinances such as baptism. Our church baptizes the dead because we believe that individuals continue to learn and progress after death, and the ordinance is offered to those who cannot complete it for themselves. We believe that people have agency or the freedom to choose whether to accept it. So in other words, Mormons felt compassion for Holocaust victims and were trying to do a service for them.

The question that I have is why this is so offensive? If you think it is bunk then no harm done.

Let's say your mother was murdered for her religion. And then you find out that somebody of a different religion, which is a proselytizing religion, doesn't just proselytize living people -- it also proselytizes dead people, including your mother. How would you feel about this?

Exactly. The baptizing of the dead without permission has to be one of the most odious things about the religion, and that's saying something. I once asked my LDS aunt how she would feel if my Muslim friends posthumously "made" her husband an Imam without permission. She was not amused.

[Anonymous]

^ Oh, and speaking of that, let's also remember that the dead can be "sealed", too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ Oh, and speaking of that, let's also remember that the dead can be "sealed", too.

What does that mean?

[Anonymous]

To be fair, OP asked about why they are nice, not about what is weird about their religion.
Every religion is nutty.

[Anonymous]

they're so nice because they want to convert you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.

Well, this was forbidden by the church a number of years ago. But if you want to know why people do it, it is because they believe that someone's eternal salvation is dependent on making and keeping covenants with God. These covenants are made as part of ordinances such as baptism. Our church baptizes the dead because we believe that individuals continue to learn and progress after death, and the ordinance is offered to those who cannot complete it for themselves. We believe that people have agency or the freedom to choose whether to accept it. So in other words, Mormons felt compassion for Holocaust victims and were trying to do a service for them.

The question that I have is why this is so offensive? If you think it is bunk then no harm done.

Let me get this straight. Someone Jewish dies for their religion and YOU -- out of "compassion" -- baptize them after death to be Christian? And you believe they have the agency or freedom to choose whether or not to accept it and learn and progress after death?

You must be Mormon because you have been sold a bill of goods and you refer to it as "the church", which all Mormons do. No, the Simon Weisenthal Center found out about the practice and made it public. Only after that did the LDS church stop baptism for the dead. Read here "Baptism of the dead". They baptized Anne Frank, Adolf Hitler, Irving Berlin, Albert Weinstein. This was an issue in my family because a relative baptised a deceased member of the family without the proper permission from his living daughters (who loathed Mormonism). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead

[Anonymous]

Albert Einstein^^. stupid phone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.

Well, this was forbidden by the church a number of years ago. But if you want to know why people do it, it is because they believe that someone's eternal salvation is dependent on making and keeping covenants with God. These covenants are made as part of ordinances such as baptism. Our church baptizes the dead because we believe that individuals continue to learn and progress after death, and the ordinance is offered to those who cannot complete it for themselves. We believe that people have agency or the freedom to choose whether to accept it. So in other words, Mormons felt compassion for Holocaust victims and were trying to do a service for them.

The question that I have is why this is so offensive? If you think it is bunk then no harm done.

Let me get this straight. Someone Jewish dies for their religion and YOU -- out of "compassion" -- baptize them after death to be Christian? And you believe they have the agency or freedom to choose whether or not to accept it and learn and progress after death?

You must be Mormon because you have been sold a bill of goods and you refer to it as "the church", which all Mormons do. No, the Simon Weisenthal Center found out about the practice and made it public. Only after that did the LDS church stop baptism for the dead. Read here "Baptism of the dead". They baptized Anne Frank, Adolf Hitler, Irving Berlin, Albert Weinstein. This was an issue in my family because a relative baptised a deceased member of the family without the proper permission from his living daughters (who loathed Mormonism). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead

They haven't stopped it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.

Well, this was forbidden by the church a number of years ago. But if you want to know why people do it, it is because they believe that someone's eternal salvation is dependent on making and keeping covenants with God. These covenants are made as part of ordinances such as baptism. Our church baptizes the dead because we believe that individuals continue to learn and progress after death, and the ordinance is offered to those who cannot complete it for themselves. We believe that people have agency or the freedom to choose whether to accept it. So in other words, Mormons felt compassion for Holocaust victims and were trying to do a service for them.

The question that I have is why this is so offensive? If you think it is bunk then no harm done.

Let me get this straight. Someone Jewish dies for their religion and YOU -- out of "compassion" -- baptize them after death to be Christian? And you believe they have the agency or freedom to choose whether or not to accept it and learn and progress after death?

You must be Mormon because you have been sold a bill of goods and you refer to it as "the church", which all Mormons do. No, the Simon Weisenthal Center found out about the practice and made it public. Only after that did the LDS church stop baptism for the dead. Read here "Baptism of the dead". They baptized Anne Frank, Adolf Hitler, Irving Berlin, Albert Weinstein. This was an issue in my family because a relative baptised a deceased member of the family without the proper permission from his living daughters (who loathed Mormonism). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead

They haven't stopped it.

That's my understanding. A Mormon relative baptized my grandfather (deceased) with my mother's permission. Most of the LDS archives in Salt Lake City are shared with Ancestry and other groups. Mom found up and blew up. The rule used to be that you had to have signatures of at least two living relatives to baptize the deceased person. A Jack Mormon ex-husband of my sister, remarried and had her under 5-year-old daughters "sealed" to him and new wife in the temple. My sister had refused to sign the consent forms, saying the daughters could become mormon when they were 18 if they wanted. So ex-husband and new wife forged my sister's (the bio mother) signatures. The ex-husband and new wife didn't count on the children talking about it after the sealing. Sister took the matter up with the local Bishop. I took it up with one off the 12 Apostles whom I happen to know. There was a Mormon trial by Elders. I was disappointed that neither got excommunicated but temple privileges and everything else was taken away to be earned back. Once they started tithing again they got their temple privileges back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ Oh, and speaking of that, let's also remember that the dead can be "sealed", too.

What does that mean?

It means they perform temple weddings (aka “sealing”) by proxy for people who have died.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.

Well, this was forbidden by the church a number of years ago. But if you want to know why people do it, it is because they believe that someone's eternal salvation is dependent on making and keeping covenants with God. These covenants are made as part of ordinances such as baptism. Our church baptizes the dead because we believe that individuals continue to learn and progress after death, and the ordinance is offered to those who cannot complete it for themselves. We believe that people have agency or the freedom to choose whether to accept it. So in other words, Mormons felt compassion for Holocaust victims and were trying to do a service for them.

The question that I have is why this is so offensive? If you think it is bunk then no harm done.

Let me get this straight. Someone Jewish dies for their religion and YOU -- out of "compassion" -- baptize them after death to be Christian? And you believe they have the agency or freedom to choose whether or not to accept it and learn and progress after death?

You must be Mormon because you have been sold a bill of goods and you refer to it as "the church", which all Mormons do. No, the Simon Weisenthal Center found out about the practice and made it public. Only after that did the LDS church stop baptism for the dead. Read here "Baptism of the dead". They baptized Anne Frank, Adolf Hitler, Irving Berlin, Albert Weinstein. This was an issue in my family because a relative baptised a deceased member of the family without the proper permission from his living daughters (who loathed Mormonism). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead

They haven't stopped it.

That's my understanding. A Mormon relative baptized my grandfather (deceased) with my mother's permission. Most of the LDS archives in Salt Lake City are shared with Ancestry and other groups. Mom found up and blew up. The rule used to be that you had to have signatures of at least two living relatives to baptize the deceased person. A Jack Mormon ex-husband of my sister, remarried and had her under 5-year-old daughters "sealed" to him and new wife in the temple. My sister had refused to sign the consent forms, saying the daughters could become mormon when they were 18 if they wanted. So ex-husband and new wife forged my sister's (the bio mother) signatures. The ex-husband and new wife didn't count on the children talking about it after the sealing. Sister took the matter up with the local Bishop. I took it up with one off the 12 Apostles whom I happen to know. There was a Mormon trial by Elders. I was disappointed that neither got excommunicated but temple privileges and everything else was taken away to be earned back. Once they started tithing again they got their temple privileges back.

Only when they coughed up some cash. Classy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.

Well, this was forbidden by the church a number of years ago. But if you want to know why people do it, it is because they believe that someone's eternal salvation is dependent on making and keeping covenants with God. These covenants are made as part of ordinances such as baptism. Our church baptizes the dead because we believe that individuals continue to learn and progress after death, and the ordinance is offered to those who cannot complete it for themselves. We believe that people have agency or the freedom to choose whether to accept it. So in other words, Mormons felt compassion for Holocaust victims and were trying to do a service for them.

The question that I have is why this is so offensive? If you think it is bunk then no harm done.

Let me get this straight. Someone Jewish dies for their religion and YOU -- out of "compassion" -- baptize them after death to be Christian? And you believe they have the agency or freedom to choose whether or not to accept it and learn and progress after death?

Yes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.

Well, this was forbidden by the church a number of years ago. But if you want to know why people do it, it is because they believe that someone's eternal salvation is dependent on making and keeping covenants with God. These covenants are made as part of ordinances such as baptism. Our church baptizes the dead because we believe that individuals continue to learn and progress after death, and the ordinance is offered to those who cannot complete it for themselves. We believe that people have agency or the freedom to choose whether to accept it. So in other words, Mormons felt compassion for Holocaust victims and were trying to do a service for them.

The question that I have is why this is so offensive? If you think it is bunk then no harm done.

Let me get this straight. Someone Jewish dies for their religion and YOU -- out of "compassion" -- baptize them after death to be Christian? And you believe they have the agency or freedom to choose whether or not to accept it and learn and progress after death?

You must be Mormon because you have been sold a bill of goods and you refer to it as "the church", which all Mormons do. No, the Simon Weisenthal Center found out about the practice and made it public. Only after that did the LDS church stop baptism for the dead. Read here "Baptism of the dead". They baptized Anne Frank, Adolf Hitler, Irving Berlin, Albert Weinstein. This was an issue in my family because a relative baptised a deceased member of the family without the proper permission from his living daughters (who loathed Mormonism). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_for_the_dead

They haven't stopped it.

Yes - they have