Let's have the abortion talk here. Right here. This thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just wanted to say that the people I know who have had abortions do not regret it. Most do not wonder what if I did have the baby. The woman I know who gave her baby up, is still reeling inside.

I never meet a person who carried no pain, for whatever reason....


As humans, there's always something we wish we would have done differently....


Why pretend otherwise?

[Anonymous]

As humans, there's always something we wish we would have done differently....

Agreed. If I had done something differently, I would have not gotten pregnant. The abortion I would do again in a heartbeat given the same situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

As humans, there's always something we wish we would have done differently....

Agreed. If I had done something differently, I would have not gotten pregnant. The abortion I would do again in a heartbeat given the same situation.

Heartbeat? Nice choice of a word....

What were you worried about, if you had allowed a live birth of your baby?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

As humans, there's always something we wish we would have done differently....

Agreed. If I had done something differently, I would have not gotten pregnant. The abortion I would do again in a heartbeat given the same situation.

Me too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

As humans, there's always something we wish we would have done differently....

Agreed. If I had done something differently, I would have not gotten pregnant. The abortion I would do again in a heartbeat given the same situation.

Heartbeat? Nice choice of a word....

What were you worried about, if you had allowed a live birth of your baby?

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[Anonymous]

What were you worried about, if you had allowed a live birth of your baby?

I've told my story at length earlier in the thread. I was a teenager, on the pill, brought up in a very religious family, in an untenable situation with a man who became violent once given the news I was pregnant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

What were you worried about, if you had allowed a live birth of your baby?

I've told my story at length earlier in the thread. I was a teenager, on the pill, brought up in a very religious family, in an untenable situation with a man who became violent once given the news I was pregnant.

Where you able to report his violence to the police, so he wouldn't continue his violence on women and children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What were you worried about, if you had allowed a live birth of your baby?

I've told my story at length earlier in the thread. I was a teenager, on the pill, brought up in a very religious family, in an untenable situation with a man who became violent once given the news I was pregnant.

Where you able to report his violence to the police, so he wouldn't continue his violence on women and children?

Look, pseudo-buddy, your interest in PP is clearly not to show compassion, so stop feigning an interest in her story other than trying to find weak spots to pick holes in. But then that always is an effective tactic of pro-lifers... if you can't convert 'em, vilify 'em, eh?

[Anonymous]

Where you able to report his violence to the police, so he wouldn't continue his violence on women and children?

Oh yeah, as soon as you report that someone you're in a relationship hits you, the police take him and lock him away for life. That's exactly how it works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Where you able to report his violence to the police, so he wouldn't continue his violence on women and children?

Oh yeah, as soon as you report that someone you're in a relationship hits you, the police take him and lock him away for life. That's exactly how it works.

Heh heh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What were you worried about, if you had allowed a live birth of your baby?

I've told my story at length earlier in the thread. I was a teenager, on the pill, brought up in a very religious family, in an untenable situation with a man who became violent once given the news I was pregnant.

Where you able to report his violence to the police, so he wouldn't continue his violence on women and children?

Look, pseudo-buddy, your interest in PP is clearly not to show compassion, so stop feigning an interest in her story other than trying to find weak spots to pick holes in. But then that always is an effective tactic of pro-lifers... if you can't convert 'em, vilify 'em, eh?

I believe they're referred to as "concern trolls." But yes, you can smell the victim-blaming coming a mile away, can't you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

What were you worried about, if you had allowed a live birth of your baby?

I've told my story at length earlier in the thread. I was a teenager, on the pill, brought up in a very religious family, in an untenable situation with a man who became violent once given the news I was pregnant.

Where you able to report his violence to the police, so he wouldn't continue his violence on women and children?

Do we care?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Where you able to report his violence to the police, so he wouldn't continue his violence on women and children?

Oh yeah, as soon as you report that someone you're in a relationship hits you, the police take him and lock him away for life. That's exactly how it works.

This is the attitude that keeps these guys beating up women. Not enough women stand up and report them...so yes, therefore, they keep doing it. And the first time might not land him in jail, but subsequent times certainly will. If you don't speak up, I place some blame on you the next time he does it.

And I speak from experience, so don't throw that in my face. And my ex is now in jail for domestic abuse.

[Anonymous]

I’m a bleeding heart liberal with one big asterisk. I’m anti-abortion. I really want to side on the women’s rights side of the fence but just can’t intellectually make the leap. I’ve reflected on this my entire adult life and have concluded there are two absolutes when it comes to life. When the cells are dividing and when they aren’t. Everything in between is a shade of grey.

I wish I could join my feminist sisters in the “my body, my choice” mantra. But to intellectually justify abortion is to say that my rights over my body are more important than human life itself. That is an ends justifying the means conclusion.

To think otherwise you would have to conclude with certainty that life begins after conception. If so, when? Convince me.
Or, you would have to conclude that our own individual right to our bodies is truly more important than another human life’s right to exist. If so, on what philosophical grounds?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a bleeding heart liberal with one big asterisk. I’m anti-abortion. I really want to side on the women’s rights side of the fence but just can’t intellectually make the leap. I’ve reflected on this my entire adult life and have concluded there are two absolutes when it comes to life. When the cells are dividing and when they aren’t. Everything in between is a shade of grey.

I wish I could join my feminist sisters in the “my body, my choice” mantra. But to intellectually justify abortion is to say that my rights over my body are more important than human life itself. That is an ends justifying the means conclusion.

To think otherwise you would have to conclude with certainty that life begins after conception. If so, when? Convince me.
Or, you would have to conclude that our own individual right to our bodies is truly more important than another human life’s right to exist. If so, on what philosophical grounds?

Wow, even though I disagree with you, I really like how you’ve thought this out. It’s nice to see someone put true effort in figuring out their personal ethics.

On the other side of that, though, I don’t see the value of life in absolutes. We make decisions daily as a society (and individually) regarding whether one person’s life is more valuable than another’s. When we choose not to resuscitate a terminally-ill relative, for example. Or when we sentence a criminal to death. Or when someone attacks us, we immediately say our life is worth more than the assailant’s, and we are willing to kill if it means saving our own life. We say our child’s life is more valuable than the assailant’s. And God forbid this happen to anyone, but if you were the parent of one of the kids in that horrific Mexico day care center fire, wouldn’t you search for your own child first to save? To you, your child’s life is more valuable than another child’s life.

Life, also, can mean unimaginable pain for someone. Like someone born with a grave birth defect. Or a fetus’ life can mean death for the mother. Some mothers are willing to die for their unborn child, but some aren’t. Perhaps they have other kids at home that depend on them. Perhaps they just want to live themselves.

Since these awful situations exist, it’s imperative that abortion always be an option.