TT trying to eliminate open lunch

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let’s say open lunch goes away, what are really the consequences when a student leaves during lunch?

None, because plenty of kids leave now at schools that don’t have lunch. So, the rule followers will get their one lunch taken away and those who are more willing to break the rules will continue to have open much.

Yeah, this is what stinks. My HS kid has said that open lunch is really the only thing that is making her not hate her very overcrowded, bureaucratic HS exeprience. She just needs a few minutes to take a break. They are punishing all those kids in order to try to control the kids who will just ignore the rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He won't be able to, kids will revolt. There is literally no space for every high schooler to eat inside, unless you want to do it East Asian style, where every kid eats at his desk!

How tiny are HS cafeterias that they can't fit 400ish kids at a time?

Let's do the math which is not mcps' forte:
2400 kids +/-
And you want 400 kids per lunch period?
That's lunch spread over 6 periods.
So, students should get a lunch period at 2nd period which starts before 9am?

WJ has about 3000 so more like 7 periods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He won't be able to, kids will revolt. There is literally no space for every high schooler to eat inside, unless you want to do it East Asian style, where every kid eats at his desk!

How tiny are HS cafeterias that they can't fit 400ish kids at a time?

Let's do the math which is not mcps' forte:
2400 kids +/-
And you want 400 kids per lunch period?
That's lunch spread over 6 periods.
So, students should get a lunch period at 2nd period which starts before 9am?

WJ has about 3000 so more like 7 periods.

Blair gas 3000 kids with 1 closed lunch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let’s say open lunch goes away, what are really the consequences when a student leaves during lunch?

None, because plenty of kids leave now at schools that don’t have lunch. So, the rule followers will get their one lunch taken away and those who are more willing to break the rules will continue to have open much.

Yeah, this is what stinks. My HS kid has said that open lunch is really the only thing that is making her not hate her very overcrowded, bureaucratic HS exeprience. She just needs a few minutes to take a break. They are punishing all those kids in order to try to control the kids who will just ignore the rules.

Kids are typically allowed outside even with a closed campus. She can get fresh air and a break.

[Anonymous]

So this is my perception of the issue.

People who want to preserve open lunch in the schools that have it:
-principals
-teachers
-parents
-students
-most nearby food business owners

People who want to end open lunch :
-Brenda Wolff
-Natalie Zimmerman
-Thomas Taylor
-a few local business owners
-a few whiny karens who hate teens but also chose to live right by a high school.

Seems to me that all the people who want to end open lunch are not the actual individuals who participate in open lunch and/or spend time in our school buildings, but want to make decisions for others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He won't be able to, kids will revolt. There is literally no space for every high schooler to eat inside, unless you want to do it East Asian style, where every kid eats at his desk!

How tiny are HS cafeterias that they can't fit 400ish kids at a time?

Let's do the math which is not mcps' forte:
2400 kids +/-
And you want 400 kids per lunch period?
That's lunch spread over 6 periods.
So, students should get a lunch period at 2nd period which starts before 9am?

WJ has about 3000 so more like 7 periods.

Blair gas 3000 kids with 1 closed lunch.

While it might be technically closed lots of kids leave for lunch in Four Corners every day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So this is my perception of the issue.

People who want to preserve open lunch in the schools that have it:
-principals
-teachers
-parents
-students
-most nearby food business owners

People who want to end open lunch :
-Brenda Wolff
-Natalie Zimmerman
-Thomas Taylor
-a few local business owners
-a few whiny karens who hate teens but also chose to live right by a high school.

Seems to me that all the people who want to end open lunch are not the actual individuals who participate in open lunch and/or spend time in our school buildings, but want to make decisions for others.

Yep. And we've been told MCPS is looking at lunch shifts at high schools because they want to have closed lunches, and that will suck.

[Anonymous]

Lunch shifts starting at 7:45AM???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lunch shifts starting at 7:45AM???

My kid's ES takes 3 hours for 600 kids to get through all their lunch shifts. Unless HS have to force students to stay in the cafeteria, multiple lunch shifts will not work and it is not a good idea for the students at all. So many students see me for help, make up work, etc. Some just hang in my classroom because it is not chaotic. But I teach multplie.grade levels, which means I will have class during some lunch shifts if they change the one lunch block. Since the BOE is never in a school, I fully expect them to pass it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So this is my perception of the issue.

People who want to preserve open lunch in the schools that have it:
-principals
-teachers
-parents
-students
-most nearby food business owners

People who want to end open lunch :
-Brenda Wolff
-Natalie Zimmerman
-Thomas Taylor
-a few local business owners
-a few whiny karens who hate teens but also chose to live right by a high school.

Seems to me that all the people who want to end open lunch are not the actual individuals who participate in open lunch and/or spend time in our school buildings, but want to make decisions for others.

Keep dreaming, Deatrice.

There are parents, students and teachers on both sides of the issue.

I know you're crapping bricks because you're about to lose open lunch, but don't make things up just to make yourself feel or look better.

[Anonymous]

The people who keep asking "What happened to cause MCPS/Taylor/the BOE to review the open lunch policy?" need to read and pay attention. It's frustrating to answer the same question that's been answered in this thread multiple times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So this is my perception of the issue.

People who want to preserve open lunch in the schools that have it:
-principals
-teachers
-parents
-students
-most nearby food business owners

People who want to end open lunch :
-Brenda Wolff
-Natalie Zimmerman
-Thomas Taylor
-a few local business owners
-a few whiny karens who hate teens but also chose to live right by a high school.

Seems to me that all the people who want to end open lunch are not the actual individuals who participate in open lunch and/or spend time in our school buildings, but want to make decisions for others.

Keep dreaming, Deatrice.

There are parents, students and teachers on both sides of the issue.

I know you're crapping bricks because you're about to lose open lunch, but don't make things up just to make yourself feel or look better.

Find me one student currently at an open lunch school who wants their school to lose that privilege.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let’s say open lunch goes away, what are really the consequences when a student leaves during lunch?

None, because plenty of kids leave now at schools that don’t have lunch. So, the rule followers will get their one lunch taken away and those who are more willing to break the rules will continue to have open much.

Yeah, this is what stinks. My HS kid has said that open lunch is really the only thing that is making her not hate her very overcrowded, bureaucratic HS exeprience. She just needs a few minutes to take a break. They are punishing all those kids in order to try to control the kids who will just ignore the rules.

If your kid is unhappy at school instead of posting here help them have a better experience or move them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lunch shifts starting at 7:45AM???

My kid's ES takes 3 hours for 600 kids to get through all their lunch shifts. Unless HS have to force students to stay in the cafeteria, multiple lunch shifts will not work and it is not a good idea for the students at all. So many students see me for help, make up work, etc. Some just hang in my classroom because it is not chaotic. But I teach multplie.grade levels, which means I will have class during some lunch shifts if they change the one lunch block. Since the BOE is never in a school, I fully expect them to pass it.

In hs they don’t eat in the cafeteria. Big difference. This is just to distract from other stuff going on. I think it’s a safety issue.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, I am too lazy to read the whole thread, but can you please tell me when they will be making a decision about open lunch?