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Any Algebra 2 from Longfellow in?

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There have not been many posts on who was accepted, the complaints started too fast.

Carson, Geometry, 4.0 GPA, 2 years foreign language

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, my kid is happy on the waitlist. His friends are waitlisted or rejected. All bright kids who spent thousands on TJ prep classes… he doesn’t even want to go anymore, so may just pull off the waitlist. He didn’t do the prep classes except a couple online sessions, so he thought he would just get rejected compared to kids who did the classes. I think we are thinking base school is better as a chance to stick out more and also have time to participate in more extracurriculars, sports etc. and have more of a normal high school experience. Everyone has their preference.

We had the opposite story - DD was in tears because all of her friends got in, even the ones with inconsistent grades, or that left out parts of their SPS, or that she's helped tutor in school. I'm not sure she was planning to go to begin with, but the unfairness of it really hit her - the fact that she did everything that was up to her right, but the county couldn't be bothered to know or care whether she belonged.

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There is a froshmore process, look into it. Some of the most successful TJ students are froshmores.

It makes sense they are successful at TJ and in the college application process because the froshmore process is based on rigor, grades, and PSAT scores.

I am a NP and the parent of a TJ student.

While my child did not enter as a froshmore, the students he knows who did enter that way are uniformly well-prepared and academically-competitive at TJ.

The froshmore admission standard simply works.

In contrast, there are now roughly 50 to 100 freshmen (FCPS refuses to give exact numbers) who leave TJ during their first 2 years, and a few others who remain but struggle to earn minimally-passing marks, but were admitted under the revised admissions “standards.”

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Anonymous wrote:Any Algebra 2 from Longfellow in?

Yes, there are many, around 10 that I know of.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, my kid is happy on the waitlist. His friends are waitlisted or rejected. All bright kids who spent thousands on TJ prep classes… he doesn’t even want to go anymore, so may just pull off the waitlist. He didn’t do the prep classes except a couple online sessions, so he thought he would just get rejected compared to kids who did the classes. I think we are thinking base school is better as a chance to stick out more and also have time to participate in more extracurriculars, sports etc. and have more of a normal high school experience. Everyone has their preference.

We had the opposite story - DD was in tears because all of her friends got in, even the ones with inconsistent grades, or that left out parts of their SPS, or that she's helped tutor in school. I'm not sure she was planning to go to begin with, but the unfairness of it really hit her - the fact that she did everything that was up to her right, but the county couldn't be bothered to know or care whether she belonged.

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There is a froshmore process, look into it. Some of the most successful TJ students are froshmores.

Entering as froshmore has a ton of challenges, deprives the student of their freshman TJ experience, which is the foundational year for other three.

Sure, but if you did not get accepted as a freshman, going as a froshmore has it's benefits too.

You likely have a straight A average your freshman year. About 80% of TJ freshmen cannot say that at the end of their freshman year.
You have the confidence of knowing that you are academically ready for TJ if you get in through the froshmore process.
You got to stagger the leaps in rigor [u]so instead of going from 8th grade rigor to TJ rigor, you get to go from 8th grade rigor to high school rigor to TJ high school rigor. That two stage increase makes it easier to acclimate yourself.

Mostly these kids (froshmores) would fit in TJ from the first year, they do not have much benefit from the staggering the leaps in rigor.

They are not likely to have a 4.0 freshman GPA. The staggering helps the GPA.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, my kid is happy on the waitlist. His friends are waitlisted or rejected. All bright kids who spent thousands on TJ prep classes… he doesn’t even want to go anymore, so may just pull off the waitlist. He didn’t do the prep classes except a couple online sessions, so he thought he would just get rejected compared to kids who did the classes. I think we are thinking base school is better as a chance to stick out more and also have time to participate in more extracurriculars, sports etc. and have more of a normal high school experience. Everyone has their preference.

We had the opposite story - DD was in tears because all of her friends got in, even the ones with inconsistent grades, or that left out parts of their SPS, or that she's helped tutor in school. I'm not sure she was planning to go to begin with, but the unfairness of it really hit her - the fact that she did everything that was up to her right, but the county couldn't be bothered to know or care whether she belonged.

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There is a froshmore process, look into it. Some of the most successful TJ students are froshmores.

It makes sense they are successful at TJ and in the college application process because the froshmore process is based on rigor, grades, and PSAT scores.

I am a NP and the parent of a TJ student.

While my child did not enter as a froshmore, the students he knows who did enter that way are uniformly well-prepared and academically-competitive at TJ.

The froshmore admission standard simply works.

In contrast, there are now roughly 50 to 100 freshmen (FCPS refuses to give exact numbers) who leave TJ during their first 2 years, and a few others who remain but struggle to earn minimally-passing marks, but were admitted under the revised admissions “standards.”

Letting the teachers pick their students would work. There are plenty of DEI tachers at TJ that want diversity but they don't want to see URM kids show up and fail.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD got waitlisted, non-feeder middle school, 3.96 gpa, geometry honors. Honestly, we think she will do much better at her base school, and she agrees too.

What’s a non-feeder MS? Don’t all schools have a quota?

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Anonymous wrote:My DD got waitlisted, non-feeder middle school, 3.96 gpa, geometry honors. Honestly, we think she will do much better at her base school, and she agrees too.

What’s a non-feeder MS? Don’t all schools have a quota?

Sorry- by that I mean it is not a school where a large amount of kids get chosen for TJHSST- (Franklin middle school) only 6 people get in each year. Also, not all schools have a quota- that’s just for FCPS I believe.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD got waitlisted, non-feeder middle school, 3.96 gpa, geometry honors. Honestly, we think she will do much better at her base school, and she agrees too.

What’s a non-feeder MS? Don’t all schools have a quota?

All schools have a quota now because there were 4 schools that dominated TJ admissions, Carson, Cooper, Longfellow, and Rocky Run sent well over half the class to TJ with some schools sending no students. The 1.5% quote was introduced to make sure that kids from every MS, who met the minimum qualifications, would be able to attend. There are schools that don’t fill their quotas every year, so the four feeders still send the majority of kids but the number of kids they send dropped by about 1/3.

Quotas were introduced at the same time as the new admin rules, to include the Algebra 1 requirement and the weights for IEPs and FARMs status. The hope is that the new process will increase the number of under represented minorities attending TJ. The Title 1 HS tend to have far fewer kids in Geometry in 8th grade, while the feeder schools tend to have at least 1 class of Algebra 2.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD got waitlisted, non-feeder middle school, 3.96 gpa, geometry honors. Honestly, we think she will do much better at her base school, and she agrees too.

What’s a non-feeder MS? Don’t all schools have a quota?

Sorry- by that I mean it is not a school where a large amount of kids get chosen for TJHSST- (Franklin middle school) only 6 people get in each year. Also, not all schools have a quota- that’s just for FCPS I believe.

I believe that the other counties have the same quota rules.

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Anonymous wrote:Has no one FOIAd TJ results?

I think FCAG does so every year with limited success.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think it makes sense to put a lot of weight on the essay portion. All the kids who are applying are taking accelerated math with good grades, we know that from their GPA and transcript. It’s harder to tell if people write well unless you see it due to variability in classes. TJ wants well-rounded kids.

accelerated math with good grades AND essay prep. That's what got us in. Yes, TJ wants well rounded kids!

I mean...dont you think most people here have accelerated math, good grades and essay prep. 😀

I think it is okay to admit some of its luck.

We didn't do essay prep

You mean your student, right? Very telling.

This is a dumb take

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Anonymous wrote:My DD got waitlisted, non-feeder middle school, 3.96 gpa, geometry honors. Honestly, we think she will do much better at her base school, and she agrees too.

What’s a non-feeder MS? Don’t all schools have a quota?

Feeder middle schools routinely send more than their quotas.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD got waitlisted, non-feeder middle school, 3.96 gpa, geometry honors. Honestly, we think she will do much better at her base school, and she agrees too.

What’s a non-feeder MS? Don’t all schools have a quota?

All schools have a quota now because there were 4 schools that dominated TJ admissions, Carson, Cooper, Longfellow, and Rocky Run sent well over half the class to TJ with some schools sending no students. The 1.5% quote was introduced to make sure that kids from every MS, who met the minimum qualifications, would be able to attend. There are schools that don’t fill their quotas every year, so the four feeders still send the majority of kids but the number of kids they send dropped by about 1/3.

Quotas were introduced at the same time as the new admin rules, to include the Algebra 1 requirement and the weights for IEPs and FARMs status. The hope is that the new process will increase the number of under represented minorities attending TJ. The Title 1 HS tend to have far fewer kids in Geometry in 8th grade, while the feeder schools tend to have at least 1 class of Algebra 2.

It was pretty clear that racial diversity was the driving force behind the change not geographic diversity. If they could have gotten a better racial balance but gotten all the URM from a few center schools, they would have done it.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD got waitlisted, non-feeder middle school, 3.96 gpa, geometry honors. Honestly, we think she will do much better at her base school, and she agrees too.

What’s a non-feeder MS? Don’t all schools have a quota?

Sorry- by that I mean it is not a school where a large amount of kids get chosen for TJHSST- (Franklin middle school) only 6 people get in each year. Also, not all schools have a quota- that’s just for FCPS I believe.

I believe that the other counties have the same quota rules.

I think APS has a set number for each school