Option B Alternate - Adding extra ES to WJ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The FAA policies require listening to stakeholder feedback. RM parent wants it ignored.

Nah, BOE should listen to all stakeholder, but not turn it into popularity contest. That's a horrible way to make any decision which will last in our region for decades.

BOE should hear the reasoning. Communities should provide reasons. That's the way decisions should be made.

- RM Parent

"RM Parent". right.

The BOE already heard community feedback several times. Taylor used that feedback to create his recommendation. Of course not everyone will be happy, but that’s not what he was asked to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FAA policies require listening to stakeholder feedback. RM parent wants it ignored.

In addition, they state "The Board has the discretion to adopt minor modifications to the superintendent of schools' recommendation(s)..."

Emphasis on minor. I would call what Farmland suggests, a musical chairs between WW, VM, GP and others, as major, and inconsistent with FAA policies.

+1 This clearly isn't minor. They want a major change too late in the game that affects real families, like mine in VM.

It may not be minor for lets say GP families or Farmland families, but it's minor in big scheme of things. BOE will be adjusting tons of boundaries and making tons of changes with final approval. This is very small part and if it makes it better then they should do it. That's their job.

Better for whom?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FAA policies require listening to stakeholder feedback. RM parent wants it ignored.

Nah, BOE should listen to all stakeholder, but not turn it into popularity contest. That's a horrible way to make any decision which will last in our region for decades.

BOE should hear the reasoning. Communities should provide reasons. That's the way decisions should be made.

- RM Parent

"RM Parent". right.

The BOE already heard community feedback several times. Taylor used that feedback to create his recommendation. Of course not everyone will be happy, but that’s not what he was asked to do.

BOE is expected to hear feedback on Taylor's recommendations and take actioans as needed. Taylor recommendation is his recommendation. BOE has job to hear all feedbacks on this and that's why they even have hearing for this in Feb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FAA policies require listening to stakeholder feedback. RM parent wants it ignored.

In addition, they state "The Board has the discretion to adopt minor modifications to the superintendent of schools' recommendation(s)..."

Emphasis on minor. I would call what Farmland suggests, a musical chairs between WW, VM, GP and others, as major, and inconsistent with FAA policies.

+1 This clearly isn't minor. They want a major change too late in the game that affects real families, like mine in VM.

It may not be minor for lets say GP families or Farmland families, but it's minor in big scheme of things. BOE will be adjusting tons of boundaries and making tons of changes with final approval. This is very small part and if it makes it better then they should do it. That's their job.

Better for whom?

Better for all kids in region who will study in WJ and Woodward in coming decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This minor vs major change argument is meaningless, because the board also has the ability to create their own alternative options. This is clearly stated in FAA:

"Based on further analysis of the factors considered through the stakeholder input
process, the Board may, by majority vote, identify one or more alternatives to the
superintendent of schools’ recommendations. Alternatives put forward by the Board will advance one or more of the factors set forth in section G below. Staff
will develop options consistent with the alternatives identified."

Now, is this board likely to do this? No. But it's not impossible.

Yes, BOE can chose any altearnative so this minor vs major point is meanigless.

[Anonymous]

VM parent here. I want my Hispanic kid to remain in the community that understands our needs. I prefer Woodward, as in joining together with our schools, some very much like ours, some different, to create something new. I think this is much better for my kids than joining an existing established community that is nothing like ours and being expected to diversify it, at the expense our own comfort and culture. Why is that so difficult to understand? You may not agree, but why is it impossible to understand that we LIKE our economically and ethnically diverse community and want to preserve it.

We have always been split with the MSMC so it is exciting to see the possibility of remaining together at one middle school, Loiederman, that many VM families already attend because it is the closest. Losing Wheaton as a home school is a bummer, but if changes must be made, it's understandable. There's a huge difference in moving to a newly created community and being shoved into an existing one.

[Anonymous]

Where are these alternatives coming from? All I see is a petition asking the board to take into consideration utilization, farms, split articulation of GPES and Tilden. A lot of the other alternatives from the fall do not have as much of a difference in utilization between the schools for example.

My family will go to Woodward in most scenarios (which I want and certainly do not want to go to new WJ) and this discussion is not making me hopeful for building a strong unified community.

[Anonymous]

Our family in GP will prefer WJ far more than Woodward. Woodward is simply not going to be serious academic school with this music and art focus. If we are slotted for Wodoward then hope would be my kid making it to WJ via special program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VM parent here. I want my Hispanic kid to remain in the community that understands our needs. I prefer Woodward, as in joining together with our schools, some very much like ours, some different, to create something new. I think this is much better for my kids than joining an existing established community that is nothing like ours and being expected to diversify it, at the expense our own comfort and culture. Why is that so difficult to understand? You may not agree, but why is it impossible to understand that we LIKE our economically and ethnically diverse community and want to preserve it.

We have always been split with the MSMC so it is exciting to see the possibility of remaining together at one middle school, Loiederman, that many VM families already attend because it is the closest. Losing Wheaton as a home school is a bummer, but if changes must be made, it's understandable. There's a huge difference in moving to a newly created community and being shoved into an existing one.

Wait, isn't Loiderman, one of the MSMC schools? So you would still be split for middle school, right, since the MSMC isn't changing? (Lots of speculation that it might go away in the future but that's very TBD.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VM parent here. I want my Hispanic kid to remain in the community that understands our needs. I prefer Woodward, as in joining together with our schools, some very much like ours, some different, to create something new. I think this is much better for my kids than joining an existing established community that is nothing like ours and being expected to diversify it, at the expense our own comfort and culture. Why is that so difficult to understand? You may not agree, but why is it impossible to understand that we LIKE our economically and ethnically diverse community and want to preserve it.

We have always been split with the MSMC so it is exciting to see the possibility of remaining together at one middle school, Loiederman, that many VM families already attend because it is the closest. Losing Wheaton as a home school is a bummer, but if changes must be made, it's understandable. There's a huge difference in moving to a newly created community and being shoved into an existing one.

You will be showed into Tilden community or NBMS community. NBMS community is happy that under the current proposal it won't be them. And Tilden community is trying to change that since there is another high FARMs ES school in play. It is true, very few non-VM posters here care about your needs.

But what unique needs do you have in mind? Other than wanting that everybody around you is also Hispanic. It seems that you are very happy with the current status, despite the fact that you have been one of the worst performing schools in the county and dropping. Is that what you want to preserve? If this was a great school as you portray it, other communities would be fighting over you and not trying to drop you like a hot potato.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VM parent here. I want my Hispanic kid to remain in the community that understands our needs. I prefer Woodward, as in joining together with our schools, some very much like ours, some different, to create something new. I think this is much better for my kids than joining an existing established community that is nothing like ours and being expected to diversify it, at the expense our own comfort and culture. Why is that so difficult to understand? You may not agree, but why is it impossible to understand that we LIKE our economically and ethnically diverse community and want to preserve it.

We have always been split with the MSMC so it is exciting to see the possibility of remaining together at one middle school, Loiederman, that many VM families already attend because it is the closest. Losing Wheaton as a home school is a bummer, but if changes must be made, it's understandable. There's a huge difference in moving to a newly created community and being shoved into an existing one.

You will be showed into Tilden community or NBMS community. NBMS community is happy that under the current proposal it won't be them. And Tilden community is trying to change that since there is another high FARMs ES school in play. It is true, very few non-VM posters here care about your needs.

But what unique needs do you have in mind? Other than wanting that everybody around you is also Hispanic. It seems that you are very happy with the current status, despite the fact that you have been one of the worst performing schools in the county and dropping. Is that what you want to preserve? If this was a great school as you portray it, other communities would be fighting over you and not trying to drop you like a hot potato.

After putting VM in WJ, WJ will have 20-25% hispanic there. It's pretty good number for anyone worrying about lack of Hispanic in WJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VM parent here. I want my Hispanic kid to remain in the community that understands our needs. I prefer Woodward, as in joining together with our schools, some very much like ours, some different, to create something new. I think this is much better for my kids than joining an existing established community that is nothing like ours and being expected to diversify it, at the expense our own comfort and culture. Why is that so difficult to understand? You may not agree, but why is it impossible to understand that we LIKE our economically and ethnically diverse community and want to preserve it.

We have always been split with the MSMC so it is exciting to see the possibility of remaining together at one middle school, Loiederman, that many VM families already attend because it is the closest. Losing Wheaton as a home school is a bummer, but if changes must be made, it's understandable. There's a huge difference in moving to a newly created community and being shoved into an existing one.

You will be showed into Tilden community or NBMS community. NBMS community is happy that under the current proposal it won't be them. And Tilden community is trying to change that since there is another high FARMs ES school in play. It is true, very few non-VM posters here care about your needs.

But what unique needs do you have in mind? Other than wanting that everybody around you is also Hispanic. It seems that you are very happy with the current status, despite the fact that you have been one of the worst performing schools in the county and dropping. Is that what you want to preserve? If this was a great school as you portray it, other communities would be fighting over you and not trying to drop you like a hot potato.

After putting VM in WJ, WJ will have 20-25% hispanic there. It's pretty good number for anyone worrying about lack of Hispanic in WJ.

Not as good as it would be outnumbering the whites at new Woodward. I hope they keep us in Woodward with WW. Then you Farmland people can embrace our culture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VM parent here. I want my Hispanic kid to remain in the community that understands our needs. I prefer Woodward, as in joining together with our schools, some very much like ours, some different, to create something new. I think this is much better for my kids than joining an existing established community that is nothing like ours and being expected to diversify it, at the expense our own comfort and culture. Why is that so difficult to understand? You may not agree, but why is it impossible to understand that we LIKE our economically and ethnically diverse community and want to preserve it.

We have always been split with the MSMC so it is exciting to see the possibility of remaining together at one middle school, Loiederman, that many VM families already attend because it is the closest. Losing Wheaton as a home school is a bummer, but if changes must be made, it's understandable. There's a huge difference in moving to a newly created community and being shoved into an existing one.

You will be showed into Tilden community or NBMS community. NBMS community is happy that under the current proposal it won't be them. And Tilden community is trying to change that since there is another high FARMs ES school in play. It is true, very few non-VM posters here care about your needs.

But what unique needs do you have in mind? Other than wanting that everybody around you is also Hispanic. It seems that you are very happy with the current status, despite the fact that you have been one of the worst performing schools in the county and dropping. Is that what you want to preserve? If this was a great school as you portray it, other communities would be fighting over you and not trying to drop you like a hot potato.

After putting VM in WJ, WJ will have 20-25% hispanic there. It's pretty good number for anyone worrying about lack of Hispanic in WJ.

Not as good as it would be outnumbering the whites at new Woodward. I hope they keep us in Woodward with WW. Then you Farmland people can embrace our culture.

Right on! This isn't about Farmland/Luxmanor being "uncomfortable" with 35.7% FARMS. It is really about them being uncomfortable with 38.7% Hispanic. They use FARMS to hide behind what they really feel. Those 27.1% white all of a sudden fear being in the minority. Welcome to our world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VM parent here. I want my Hispanic kid to remain in the community that understands our needs. I prefer Woodward, as in joining together with our schools, some very much like ours, some different, to create something new. I think this is much better for my kids than joining an existing established community that is nothing like ours and being expected to diversify it, at the expense our own comfort and culture. Why is that so difficult to understand? You may not agree, but why is it impossible to understand that we LIKE our economically and ethnically diverse community and want to preserve it.

We have always been split with the MSMC so it is exciting to see the possibility of remaining together at one middle school, Loiederman, that many VM families already attend because it is the closest. Losing Wheaton as a home school is a bummer, but if changes must be made, it's understandable. There's a huge difference in moving to a newly created community and being shoved into an existing one.

You will be showed into Tilden community or NBMS community. NBMS community is happy that under the current proposal it won't be them. And Tilden community is trying to change that since there is another high FARMs ES school in play. It is true, very few non-VM posters here care about your needs.

But what unique needs do you have in mind? Other than wanting that everybody around you is also Hispanic. It seems that you are very happy with the current status, despite the fact that you have been one of the worst performing schools in the county and dropping. Is that what you want to preserve? If this was a great school as you portray it, other communities would be fighting over you and not trying to drop you like a hot potato.

After putting VM in WJ, WJ will have 20-25% hispanic there. It's pretty good number for anyone worrying about lack of Hispanic in WJ.

Not as good as it would be outnumbering the whites at new Woodward. I hope they keep us in Woodward with WW. Then you Farmland people can embrace our culture.

I am hispanic in WJ and will remian in that in all options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VM parent here. I want my Hispanic kid to remain in the community that understands our needs. I prefer Woodward, as in joining together with our schools, some very much like ours, some different, to create something new. I think this is much better for my kids than joining an existing established community that is nothing like ours and being expected to diversify it, at the expense our own comfort and culture. Why is that so difficult to understand? You may not agree, but why is it impossible to understand that we LIKE our economically and ethnically diverse community and want to preserve it.

We have always been split with the MSMC so it is exciting to see the possibility of remaining together at one middle school, Loiederman, that many VM families already attend because it is the closest. Losing Wheaton as a home school is a bummer, but if changes must be made, it's understandable. There's a huge difference in moving to a newly created community and being shoved into an existing one.

You will be showed into Tilden community or NBMS community. NBMS community is happy that under the current proposal it won't be them. And Tilden community is trying to change that since there is another high FARMs ES school in play. It is true, very few non-VM posters here care about your needs.

But what unique needs do you have in mind? Other than wanting that everybody around you is also Hispanic. It seems that you are very happy with the current status, despite the fact that you have been one of the worst performing schools in the county and dropping. Is that what you want to preserve? If this was a great school as you portray it, other communities would be fighting over you and not trying to drop you like a hot potato.

After putting VM in WJ, WJ will have 20-25% hispanic there. It's pretty good number for anyone worrying about lack of Hispanic in WJ.

Not as good as it would be outnumbering the whites at new Woodward. I hope they keep us in Woodward with WW. Then you Farmland people can embrace our culture.

I am hispanic in WJ and will remian in that in all options.

great, you can see yourself out of the conversation since this has no impact on you.