Taylor's Swift's new album - let's GOOOOO

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t she go back to writing about Jake Gyllenhall? I miss those days.

Another closeted gay man who was in a fake relationship with her?

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Anonymous wrote:Saw some Tiktok comments saying her songs is "too Millennials " Does anyone have teen age kids? What do they think?

My kid specifically mentioned that "wood" was cringy. And that the Charlie XCX diss track was beneath Taylor.

+1. She’s cringe SAHM music now. Kids will jam to her old songs in like a retro ironic way but this new crap is terrible. She’s washed up and old. It happens to everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just... so disappointed in this album. I'm one of the posters who absolutely loved her last four albums and had a feeling this one was just too soon and unnecessary. I like three songs on it: Life of a Showgirl, Opalite, and The Fate of Ophelia. Wood is just an utter embarrassment and beneath her.

My 21 yr. old daughter texted me and said:
"I detest Taylor's new album. The lyricism is so horrible, I cannot believe it's the same person who wrote Folklore and such."

I agree completely!

Texts that did not happen. What 21 year old, or X year old for that matter, texts like that to her mom?

I know multiple 20-something women who would text something like that to their mom regarding a shared interest. But I understand your incredulity -- looking at the news, it does start to feel unlikely that there are people out there who are both (1) literate, and (2) in functional relationships with their family members. But they do exist, I promise.

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Anonymous wrote:I almost finished the album yesterday. Busy set of days.
My take is that 2-3+ songs stand out. 2 solid. A third sure, and a fourth. A fifth I can think of. Maybe more depending on mood, etc.

She he earned the right to make any album. When you’re that rich and famous, you can just make *what you like.*

The song about “I’m not a bad b****” is saying repeatedly, she knows she’s not cool, she doesn’t have to pretend to be “savage” or “fire” anymore. She’s a sweet and goofy person on the inside, and as a star, you have a public persona and then the way people really know you.

This album is her being free, completely. I’m not saying she wasn’t free before. She’s just also free AND happy now. (Compare to Midnights, Folklore, where she was being herself but a little sad)

Me again. The standouts are Eldest Daughter and Ruin the Friendship.
Ophelia is so catchy.
Opalite, Honey, Wish List good in their own ways. Wish list is so sweet and insightful. Opalite catchy. Honey, like Ruin the Friendship, is her processing some really important things.

My criticism of the album is rhythm/patterns. The better songs get out of her old/own repeated patterns. But I’m not a musician and couldn’t do what she did. As a listener, that’s the thing I notice.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw some Tiktok comments saying her songs is "too Millennials " Does anyone have teen age kids? What do they think?

My kid specifically mentioned that "wood" was cringy. And that the Charlie XCX diss track was beneath Taylor.

+1. She’s cringe SAHM music now. Kids will jam to her old songs in like a retro ironic way but this new crap is terrible. She’s washed up and old. It happens to everyone.

Take a scroll on TikTok and HS/college girls are posting all sorts of content with "Actually Sweet"....

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Anonymous wrote:Lyrics, music and muse - cheesy & cringey. It's like she wrote an album that Travis can understand, lmao.
Signed, an OG Swiftie

Travis actually has more education than she does. He has a bachelor’s degree. She barely finished high school. Neither of them is intelligent. Don’t let Taylor’s “poet” / “English teacher” branding and marketing alter reality. You can tell she never reads books. She’s as dim and shallow as her bestie Blake, who famously couldn’t be bothered to read a book her psy movie was based on.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw some Tiktok comments saying her songs is "too Millennials " Does anyone have teen age kids? What do they think?

My kid specifically mentioned that "wood" was cringy. And that the Charlie XCX diss track was beneath Taylor.

+1. She’s cringe SAHM music now. Kids will jam to her old songs in like a retro ironic way but this new crap is terrible. She’s washed up and old. It happens to everyone.

Take a scroll on TikTok and HS/college girls are posting all sorts of content with "Actually Sweet"....

Paid content.

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Anonymous wrote:Lyrics, music and muse - cheesy & cringey. It's like she wrote an album that Travis can understand, lmao.
Signed, an OG Swiftie

Travis actually has more education than she does. He has a bachelor’s degree. She barely finished high school. Neither of them is intelligent. Don’t let Taylor’s “poet” / “English teacher” branding and marketing alter reality. You can tell she never reads books. She’s as dim and shallow as her bestie Blake, who famously couldn’t be bothered to read a book her psy movie was based on.

last* movie

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Anonymous wrote:^ and I like those narcotics

Willing to OD.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw some Tiktok comments saying her songs is "too Millennials " Does anyone have teen age kids? What do they think?

My kid specifically mentioned that "wood" was cringy. And that the Charlie XCX diss track was beneath Taylor.

+1. She’s cringe SAHM music now. Kids will jam to her old songs in like a retro ironic way but this new crap is terrible. She’s washed up and old. It happens to everyone.

Take a scroll on TikTok and HS/college girls are posting all sorts of content with "Actually Sweet"....

Paid content.

No lady, that's not how the average HS girl uses TT.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Taylor the emperor and some of her fans refuse to admit she's naked?

No. She's good. And her fans love her. Every artist has a "less good" album now and then. The thing is, what she's exceptional at is not just song writing it's creating a para-social connection with fans, marketing, and consistency. She doesn't disappear for a decade like some artists and then expect to return to the same adoring horde they had before going off into the woods or whatever.

Taylor's good. She's got this. She doesn't need to try to be anything she's not. She proved that with the Eras tour.

I am a longtime Taylor skeptic and I agree with this. This will become the weird, mediocre album she produced right after eras and before her first marriage. It will be largely forgotten except as a trivia question ("n what album did Taylor Swift release a "dis track" against fellow pop star and rival Charli XCX?" or "the infamous legal battle between actress Blake Lively and actor/director Jason Baldoni spawned a pop song about being "cancelled" as the kids used to say -- who wrote that song?"). But she's too talented and ambitious for this to be it, she'll come back with something great and surprising, like when she released Folklore/evermore or when she launched Eras, and people will move on. This really doesn't undermine her legacy in any way. She's too prolific for that.

Bob Dylan release some real stinker albums. So did Madonna and Bruce Springsteen. They are still music royalty and Taylor belongs among them even if this album kind of sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:6-7 of the 12 songs are about travis. And he is not not a good muse. Boring AF as a muse.

Fate of ophelia is decent. Actually romantic will be in 1000 tik tok videos and has cultual.staying power that way.

I dont get tge hate though. Its a mid album but not trash. Methinks she lost some of her ambition.


The other possibilty is sge is she is respomding to the online world - you want to speculate on my sex life with travis - here is the worst sex song ever!

Here is a song about sincerity vs online memes, but im gonna rick roll you in it.

All your posting crap abput me just makes me wet.

I was literally hoping for the last year or two that Travis would be an awful muse. Please, for her sake.

Thinking about hot boyfriends i loved before DH. It was up down all over, I was a mess. I learned from them that you want someone who is high pleasant, and rarely rarely makes you miserable. Even keeled. That’s DH.

If I were a song writer, those years would have produced amazing music. Now with DH (17 years of marriage) it’s like pleasant happiness, it would sound like me listening to classical music, calm, yacht rock, sweet but not as exciting.

I only continue to wish her life is much more pleasant and slightly, slightly boring. Happy. She can do anything she wants. Write, produce, open a label.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Taylor the emperor and some of her fans refuse to admit she's naked?

No. She's good. And her fans love her. Every artist has a "less good" album now and then. The thing is, what she's exceptional at is not just song writing it's creating a para-social connection with fans, marketing, and consistency. She doesn't disappear for a decade like some artists and then expect to return to the same adoring horde they had before going off into the woods or whatever.

Taylor's good. She's got this. She doesn't need to try to be anything she's not. She proved that with the Eras tour.

I am a longtime Taylor skeptic and I agree with this. This will become the weird, mediocre album she produced right after eras and before her first marriage. It will be largely forgotten except as a trivia question ("n what album did Taylor Swift release a "dis track" against fellow pop star and rival Charli XCX?" or "the infamous legal battle between actress Blake Lively and actor/director Jason Baldoni spawned a pop song about being "cancelled" as the kids used to say -- who wrote that song?"). But she's too talented and ambitious for this to be it, she'll come back with something great and surprising, like when she released Folklore/evermore or when she launched Eras, and people will move on. This really doesn't undermine her legacy in any way. She's too prolific for that.

Bob Dylan release some real stinker albums. So did Madonna and Bruce Springsteen. They are still music royalty and Taylor belongs among them even if this album kind of sucks.

I like this album more than TTPD, personally. There's an album for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Saw some Tiktok comments saying her songs is "too Millennials " Does anyone have teen age kids? What do they think?

My kid specifically mentioned that "wood" was cringy. And that the Charlie XCX diss track was beneath Taylor.

+1. She’s cringe SAHM music now. Kids will jam to her old songs in like a retro ironic way but this new crap is terrible. She’s washed up and old. It happens to everyone.

Take a scroll on TikTok and HS/college girls are posting all sorts of content with "Actually Sweet"....

Paid content.

No lady, that's not how the average HS girl uses TT.

Any viral content thrown in our faces on every medium is fake. There are bots in this thread for Christ’s sake.

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The issue is there is nothing about her buffoon oafish football player manchild boyfriend any of us find aspirational. If she got paid big bucks from the NFL for it, good for her. But the relationship didn’t help her musically in any way. He’s actually dragged her aura down. She went from like this fairy tale filthy rich princess with gorgeous boyfriends … to sort of cringy and prole.