Can someone give me the number to call to report boundary fraud?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My guess will that the DCPS fraud reporting hotline won't follow-up on boundary cheating complaints as long as some of the poor minority kids living in the District bounce between relatives' places.

In the meantime, moral judgements on the matter will remain sanctimonious claptrap, nothing more.

But that's also the case for residency fraud, and they have made some efforts on that. The key difference is that residency fraud is illegal. Like, spelled out in the DC code with actual penalties illegal.

[Anonymous]

I-800-MYOB

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My guess will that the DCPS fraud reporting hotline won't follow-up on boundary cheating complaints as long as some of the poor minority kids living in the District bounce between relatives' places.

In the meantime, moral judgements on the matter will remain sanctimonious claptrap, nothing more.

But that's also the case for residency fraud, and they have made some efforts on that. The key difference is that residency fraud is illegal. Like, spelled out in the DC code with actual penalties illegal.

So is boundary fraud. You attest to the paperwork being true when you sign it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I-800-MYOB

Nope. When you choose to break the rules everyone else follows even if facing the same “struggles” you claim, then people will get mad and some will report you. It’s a system so it is everyone’s business.

[Anonymous]

the JR feeders are now just Deal and its elementary school feeders. few oob spots. it will probably in a pretty short time become much more unusual to go to JR but not live in the boundary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My guess will that the DCPS fraud reporting hotline won't follow-up on boundary cheating complaints as long as some of the poor minority kids living in the District bounce between relatives' places.

In the meantime, moral judgements on the matter will remain sanctimonious claptrap, nothing more.

But that's also the case for residency fraud, and they have made some efforts on that. The key difference is that residency fraud is illegal. Like, spelled out in the DC code with actual penalties illegal.

So is boundary fraud. You attest to the paperwork being true when you sign it.

The words "residency fraud" appear in the DC code with legal penalties, and it's been prosecuted. You can think that distinction doesn't matter, but DCPS is acting like it does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My guess will that the DCPS fraud reporting hotline won't follow-up on boundary cheating complaints as long as some of the poor minority kids living in the District bounce between relatives' places.

In the meantime, moral judgements on the matter will remain sanctimonious claptrap, nothing more.

But that's also the case for residency fraud, and they have made some efforts on that. The key difference is that residency fraud is illegal. Like, spelled out in the DC code with actual penalties illegal.

So is boundary fraud. You attest to the paperwork being true when you sign it.

The words "residency fraud" appear in the DC code with legal penalties, and it's been prosecuted. You can think that distinction doesn't matter, but DCPS is acting like it does.

The D.C. code also makes lying to the Government ilegal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My guess will that the DCPS fraud reporting hotline won't follow-up on boundary cheating complaints as long as some of the poor minority kids living in the District bounce between relatives' places.

In the meantime, moral judgements on the matter will remain sanctimonious claptrap, nothing more.

But that's also the case for residency fraud, and they have made some efforts on that. The key difference is that residency fraud is illegal. Like, spelled out in the DC code with actual penalties illegal.

So is boundary fraud. You attest to the paperwork being true when you sign it.

The words "residency fraud" appear in the DC code with legal penalties, and it's been prosecuted. You can think that distinction doesn't matter, but DCPS is acting like it does.

The D.C. code also makes lying to the Government ilegal.

Go convince DCPS this, not me. I was merely stating a reason why they treat these things differently. It's not because "poor minority kids" are advantaged by lying about their within-district address.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Report it to the school. They are the ones that assess the enrollment paperwork.

(and yes it is fraud - it’s lying about your address to get a government benefit.)

I think many here are forgetting that fraud is fraud. Nobody is above the law, except for one person, maybe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here... I'm finding this all highly entertaining that I've gotten so many of you so worked up yet you're worried about the energy I'm wasting on this. To the person saving their MySchoolDC emails worried about "people like me"... my child also attends an out-of-boundary school "in the fancy part of town" - a spot that earned through the lottery as well. I am well aware that there are perfectly legitimate ways to attend a school outside of your boundary school. What I didn't like most about how this family handled things was the child and family walked around loudly telling everyone that they won a lottery spot to Jackson Reed, as if the data on whether that has happened at that school isn't publicly available to all. I know plenty of folks who have gamed the system, never thinking that I needed to report a thing, as I don't have the holier-than-thou attitude that you all think I do. It was this particular situation and this family's boldness that made me want to speak up. And to an early poster who asked if I want them to see this... well, I highly doubt they're on this forum, but yes I would definitely love them to know that they've spent years telling the same boldface lie but they didn't fool everyone.

OP, do you care that your actions will harm a child who has made friends and joined activities and built relationships at this school? They may be needlessly bold and who knows whether they are telling the truth, but you lack empathy for a child! You should feel ashamed. I don’t think I could live with my own moral compass if I took a direct and needless action to emotionally (or physically of course) harm a child.

Interesting thoughts. Ever considered that parents/guardians should feel ashamed committing fraud? That these students/children might be taking away from others and thereby hurting them, maybe even your child or your neighbor's child?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Report it to the school. They are the ones that assess the enrollment paperwork.

(and yes it is fraud - it’s lying about your address to get a government benefit.)

I think many here are forgetting that fraud is fraud. Nobody is above the law, except for one person, maybe.

DC doesn't consider which school you go to to be a "government benefit", they consider the benefit to be any DC public or charter school. I understand you have a different legal theory. Cool. But it's not up to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Report it to the school. They are the ones that assess the enrollment paperwork.

(and yes it is fraud - it’s lying about your address to get a government benefit.)

I think many here are forgetting that fraud is fraud. Nobody is above the law, except for one person, maybe.

DC doesn't consider which school you go to to be a "government benefit", they consider the benefit to be any DC public or charter school. I understand you have a different legal theory. Cool. But it's not up to you.

It’s literally fraud to write down false information to gain a benefit (yes it is a benefit). But go ahead and try it and also tell the school what you are doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Report it to the school. They are the ones that assess the enrollment paperwork.

(and yes it is fraud - it’s lying about your address to get a government benefit.)

I think many here are forgetting that fraud is fraud. Nobody is above the law, except for one person, maybe.

DC doesn't consider which school you go to to be a "government benefit", they consider the benefit to be any DC public or charter school. I understand you have a different legal theory. Cool. But it's not up to you.

It’s literally fraud to write down false information to gain a benefit (yes it is a benefit). But go ahead and try it and also tell the school what you are doing.

It's not up to you whether going to one school in DC over another counts as a benefit, it's up to DC. And we know what happens if families get caught -- they get kicked out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the JR feeders are now just Deal and its elementary school feeders. few oob spots. it will probably in a pretty short time become much more unusual to go to JR but not live in the boundary.

I don't think it will become more unusual. Hill parents of strong MS students tend to be unhappy with how admissions to Walls has essentially become a lottery for B+/A students. Pre-pandemic, if your 8th grader could stand out in applying with high DC-PARRC or PSAT 8/9 and the Walls admission tests (English and math) scores, on top of a high GPA, they'd get in. No longer.

The new reality is that admissions to Walls is a real crap shoot, even for those doing decidedly advanced middle school work (mainly at BASIS and in privates). From what I'm hearing, the result is that boundary cheating EotP to access J-R is becoming more a little more prevalent. Arguably, DCPS and the Mayor (mainly the latter) have brought the problem on themselves: the Walls admission systems was more of an academic meritocracy just four years ago, before Bowser single-handedly nixed the two admissions tests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the JR feeders are now just Deal and its elementary school feeders. few oob spots. it will probably in a pretty short time become much more unusual to go to JR but not live in the boundary.

I don't think it will become more unusual. Hill parents of strong MS students tend to be unhappy with how admissions to Walls has essentially become a lottery for B+/A students. Pre-pandemic, if your 8th grader could stand out in applying with high DC-PARRC or PSAT 8/9 and the Walls admission tests (English and math) scores, on top of a high GPA, they'd get in. No longer.

The new reality is that admissions to Walls is a real crap shoot, even for those doing decidedly advanced middle school work (mainly at BASIS and in privates). From what I'm hearing, the result is that boundary cheating EotP to access J-R is becoming more a little more prevalent. Arguably, DCPS and the Mayor (mainly the latter) have brought the problem on themselves: the Walls admission systems was more of an academic meritocracy just four years ago, before Bowser single-handedly nixed the two admissions tests.

It's really messed up that they gave lack of tests during COVID as the reason, never brought it back, and never even said anything about why.