Wall Street Journal on Gender Storytime in Montgomery County

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


So, treating all people with consideration and kindness like human beings is the LGBTQ agenda?


Treating people with kindness also means listening to people's concerns and views and striving to find compromise, which MCPS failed to do with the families and communities who filed suit.

Instead, Lynne Harris, the BOE and MCPS shunned, ostracized and silenced people who felt the abrupt removal of the opt-out was unfair to their values and beliefs.


Exactly like tolerating and listening to the bigotry and hate of others rooted in their religious biases.


This attitude is precisely why MCPS is where it is and why it's going to lose this Supreme Court case. Your approach is not winning in the courts or the general public. And instead of pivoting, compromising or evolving, you rather double down on it.

How's that working out for you?


MCPS's approach actually did win in all the courts thus far.


Not the Supreme Court though. And that's the one that ultimately has the say here.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


So, treating all people with consideration and kindness like human beings is the LGBTQ agenda?
The books and lesson guides go beyond inclusion and veer into proselytization. Why does a Pre-k alphabet book need to include drag queens and a Pride Parade? What purpose does it serve besides indoctrination?


DP. It represents the diverse community MCPS students live in.


It does more than just provide "representation." It is very clearly a propaganda tool with a political agenda. You would not be in support of a similar book with a POV you disagreed with being pushed on your kids and you know it.


We live in Montgomery County, Maryland. Drag queens and pride parades are part of life in this area.


I think you forget how big and diverse Montgomery County is. Drag queens and pride parades might be "part of life" in Silver Spring and Takoma Park, but that's not the case in Germantown, Damascus, Olney or Poolesville.

Get out of your bubble. MoCo is not San Francisco.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


So, treating all people with consideration and kindness like human beings is the LGBTQ agenda?


Treating people with kindness also means listening to people's concerns and views and striving to find compromise, which MCPS failed to do with the families and communities who filed suit.

Instead, Lynne Harris, the BOE and MCPS shunned, ostracized and silenced people who felt the abrupt removal of the opt-out was unfair to their values and beliefs.


Exactly like tolerating and listening to the bigotry and hate of others rooted in their religious biases.


This attitude is precisely why MCPS is where it is and why it's going to lose this Supreme Court case. Your approach is not winning in the courts or the general public. And instead of pivoting, compromising or evolving, you rather double down on it.

How's that working out for you?


MCPS's approach actually did win in all the courts thus far.


Not the Supreme Court though. And that's the one that ultimately has the say here.


Sure, but the lower courts considered the case on its merits, while the Trump-dominated SCOTUS will do so on the politics.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


So, treating all people with consideration and kindness like human beings is the LGBTQ agenda?
The books and lesson guides go beyond inclusion and veer into proselytization. Why does a Pre-k alphabet book need to include drag queens and a Pride Parade? What purpose does it serve besides indoctrination?


DP. It represents the diverse community MCPS students live in.


It does more than just provide "representation." It is very clearly a propaganda tool with a political agenda. You would not be in support of a similar book with a POV you disagreed with being pushed on your kids and you know it.


We live in Montgomery County, Maryland. Drag queens and pride parades are part of life in this area.


I think you forget how big and diverse Montgomery County is. Drag queens and pride parades might be "part of life" in Silver Spring and Takoma Park, but that's not the case in Germantown, Damascus, Olney or Poolesville.

Get out of your bubble. MoCo is not San Francisco.


Seems like you're the one in a bubble.

https://poolesvillepride.org/
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


So, treating all people with consideration and kindness like human beings is the LGBTQ agenda?
The books and lesson guides go beyond inclusion and veer into proselytization. Why does a Pre-k alphabet book need to include drag queens and a Pride Parade? What purpose does it serve besides indoctrination?


DP. It represents the diverse community MCPS students live in.


It does more than just provide "representation." It is very clearly a propaganda tool with a political agenda. You would not be in support of a similar book with a POV you disagreed with being pushed on your kids and you know it.


We live in Montgomery County, Maryland. Drag queens and pride parades are part of life in this area.


I think you forget how big and diverse Montgomery County is. Drag queens and pride parades might be "part of life" in Silver Spring and Takoma Park, but that's not the case in Germantown, Damascus, Olney or Poolesville.

Get out of your bubble. MoCo is not San Francisco.


Seems like you're the one in a bubble.

https://poolesvillepride.org/


Ok, so Poolesville is gayer than I thought. Great.

My overarching point still stands: Pride parades are not a prominent part of life in ALL areas of MoCo.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


100%. I have kids in MCPS elementary and middle school - also an atheist. It is sick.


I think you both need to take a hard look in the mirror, and think about why you think it's "disgusting" or "sick" to include books about people who are different from you in a school curriculum where students will come from all different family types, and will be feeling all different things, and might just see themselves in some of these books.

And please educate yourselves. Gay and trans kids are the ones who get kicked out of the house and live on the streets, who self medicate with drugs and alcohol, who kill themselves at significantly higher rates, etc., etc. These kids need to know they are not alone, and that most people don't consider them "sick" or "disgusting."


Yah, 5 year old gay and tans kids? It's just disgusting that this gay, trans, sex parade idea gets pushed into 5 years old elementary school kids. Keep this for high school.

We had one Gay parent pushing their kid for this as early as K in Richard Montomery cluster( Bell Elementary). Now the same parent wanted everyone else to normalize the idea that 5 years old should be thinking about Gay, trans etc.

It's just sick. Trying to indoctrinate 5 years old kids for this is not helping any kid, it's destoying the life. I felt so sorry that little kid.

It's one thing to realize your sexual orientation when you grow up. But totally another to be indoctrinated by LGBTQ lobby in elementary school and have your life destroyed. Worse it's done by their own parents.



Often it’s the parents pushing it at that age.


It's mostly the parents and their circle otherwise a 5 year kid is not going to start thinking about becoming tran and gay.
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This thread really exposes that the objection to these books is not about religious freedom, as nearly no commenters cite religion in making the case about keeping these books away from their kids.
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Anonymous wrote:From early reports after yesterday’s arguments, it looks like sanity just might prevail here.


By sanity you mean bigotry?


No. I mean sanity. Just like I wrote.
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Anonymous wrote:The public schools need to teach and reflect every student. Don't want your privileged white snow-flake to learn about Joe with 2 mommies, or Juan with a Trans parent or whatever? Send them to Catholic school (and get financial aid from your church if you can't afford it). But every kid in public school deserves to see themselves in the curriculum.

It's laughable some of the charges here (teachers forcing kids to be something they are not), it's about exposure to people in real life. Reading any one of these books is not going to change any kid, but might be a breath of fresh air, or a sigh of relief, to kid who doesn't have what you consider a traditional family

-white, heterosexual, married for 25+ years parent of three who is happy our kids went to diverse schools and were able to see and learn about those who have a different family experience than what they have



No, schools are not required to teach curricula that includes everyone. This is such asinine American thinking that's backwards and places the individual above all, and even in top of the collective middle.

What if a student identifies as a communist? What if a student is a religious zealot who identifies as a Sharia Law supporter? What if a student is a nihilist and a fanboy of school shooters? What's next, making sure those students with alternative viewpoints and lifestyles are incorporated too so that they can see themselves in school curricula? Schools should teach full blown communist manifestos, the philosophy of subjugating women with buqas, and showing videos of the Columbine shooters?

Your logic is twisted and very bad. The road to hell is paved with good intentions like yours.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is MCPS and the county wasting huge amounts of money on this? This is exactly why they keep raising taxes. Just never ending progressive agenda junk that costs massive amounts of money while not improving education at all.

What happened to a normal curriculum? Reading, writing, math, history, language, and science. Done.

But nah, they need the alternative math where they first have to learn numbers are racist. They can't learn science because chemistry is sexist since reactions are named after men. They can't do any reading because Jack and Jill are oppressive, it has to be Jack and John. Good god, just total paralysis. Why can't parents who want drag reading hours and Pride Puppy do all of that stuff at home rather than trying to forcefeed it? No big deal. Where do you draw the line? What's next, demanding full blown Communist indoctrination curricula and America bad be taught with no opt out? At some point this stuff is indoctrination, not education.


For much of the 20th century certain Christian interest groups asserted that teaching the theory of evolution in public schools amounted to indoctrination and offended their religious sensibilities. Certain states and school districts outlawed the teaching of evolution until the Supreme Court ruled against it. Then certain states and districts demanded that if they could not ban the teaching of evolution they must be allowed to teach Christian Creationism alongside it, until the Supreme Court also ruled against that. These issues were litigated over decades, but once the Supreme Court decided, social consensus followed. These days I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone outside the very fringe claiming that teaching evolution is "indoctrination" and demanding their children be opted out of those lessons.

Similarly, there was a lot of religious objection to whether it was acceptable for people to mingle and marry outside their race, which have largely fallen by the wayside since rulings like Loving vs Virginia.

I see a lot of parallels in the arguments today around this issue.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


100%. I have kids in MCPS elementary and middle school - also an atheist. It is sick.


I think you both need to take a hard look in the mirror, and think about why you think it's "disgusting" or "sick" to include books about people who are different from you in a school curriculum where students will come from all different family types, and will be feeling all different things, and might just see themselves in some of these books.

And please educate yourselves. Gay and trans kids are the ones who get kicked out of the house and live on the streets, who self medicate with drugs and alcohol, who kill themselves at significantly higher rates, etc., etc. These kids need to know they are not alone, and that most people don't consider them "sick" or "disgusting."


Yah, 5 year old gay and tans kids? It's just disgusting that this gay, trans, sex parade idea gets pushed into 5 years old elementary school kids. Keep this for high school.

We had one Gay parent pushing their kid for this as early as K in Richard Montomery cluster( Bell Elementary). Now the same parent wanted everyone else to normalize the idea that 5 years old should be thinking about Gay, trans etc.

It's just sick. Trying to indoctrinate 5 years old kids for this is not helping any kid, it's destoying the life. I felt so sorry that little kid.

It's one thing to realize your sexual orientation when you grow up. But totally another to be indoctrinated by LGBTQ lobby in elementary school and have your life destroyed. Worse it's done by their own parents.



Often it’s the parents pushing it at that age.


It's mostly the parents and their circle otherwise a 5 year kid is not going to start thinking about becoming tran and gay.


You guys like to make up stuff, don’t you.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


So, treating all people with consideration and kindness like human beings is the LGBTQ agenda?


Stop trying to frame to mislead. Enough.

My nephew and one cousin is gay. I don't treat them poorly. I will fight for their rigths.

But what happening in elementary schools in MCPS is not about treating human with kindness.

Why in the world any 5 years old kid needs to read about drag queens? Only for one reason, to push LGBTQ agenda. Wasting tax payers money on pushing LQBTQ agenda.

Who you want to have sex with is your choice, jsut keep it out of elemnatry schools.
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Anonymous wrote:For those just taking comments that "Pride Puppy" is inappropriate at face value, take 3 minutes to watch this video of someone reading it and decide for yourselves. It's an ABC picture book about a family with two moms who go to a parade and their dog gets loose.

https://youtu.be/sisIwl07mc4?si=3veEJt4t2albvNGn


Not appropriate at all for young kids.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS higher up has been highjacked by LGBTQ lobby.

Entire upper management should be fired for using elementary school kid for pushing their agenda and wasting tax payers money.


Cleaning MCPS upper management is necessary. Using education money for this should be unacceptable for anyone. It's really amazing that something like this went to supreme court.

Entire MCPS board and upper management is incompetent. They should be held accountable. Some one should lose thier job here.


Lists of people need to lose their jobs.


Lots


Unfortunately, Taylor is not in the business of firing people. He keeps the rot around and the BOE lets him get away with it.


No, he did fire people. And this was done by the prior super and Board.


5 out of the 6 people announced in this hiring held the same position before: https://mocoshow.com/2025/03/18/six-administrative-appointments-approved-by-board-of-education/

He is not firing deep enough or quickly enough to change MCPS in meaningful ways. He's shuffling the same players around within the system.


That sad. System is rotten to the core to have this kind of waste of tax payers money in MCPS. Entire upper management in MCPS needs to go.
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has gone overboard with the LGBTQ stuff. My middle school-aged daughter commented once that she felt they were trying to turn the kids gay. I'm being 100% real here.



It grooming , plain and simple.


You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.
Fine, it’s indoctrination.

Forced indoctrination. DP


+1 it's disgusting.

I am an atheist so nothing to do with religion, but pushing LGBTQ agenda on elementary school kids is just sick.


So, treating all people with consideration and kindness like human beings is the LGBTQ agenda?
The books and lesson guides go beyond inclusion and veer into proselytization. Why does a Pre-k alphabet book need to include drag queens and a Pride Parade? What purpose does it serve besides indoctrination?


DP. It represents the diverse community MCPS students live in.


How about some picture book story which potrays LGBTQ negatively? We do have that diverse view in county as well.

It's just pushing LGBTQ agenda at expense of innocent chindrens. There is no need to have pro or against PGBTYQ picture books in elemnetary schools. It's not the place to talk about them.

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