This is going badly

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m genuinely curious. When he said this was what he would do, did you not believe him?

OP here. Sort of. A lot of this is stuff that I knew he'd find appealing, but the guy says a lot of stuff that isn't true-- mexico paying for it and all that. Plus, for all his faults, I did think that he was sort of correct in his complaint that he was constantly stymied in his first term by entrenched power structures that hated him and thought he was a joke. Tbh, I still think that. The fact that a huge share of the country called themselves the Resistance-- as though they were standing up to tanks in the streets of 1968 Prague-- was sort of absurd, and I thought it was revealing that so many members of our social elite were like "yeah, that's a reasonable thing to do."

This time though it seems different. It seems like he's able to do a lot more of the stuff he said he'd do. But he's also not doing some of the better stuff he said he would. So from my vantage point, a big vibe I got from his campaign was that he would be pragmatic and approach even some Dems to high-level positions (which he did, I guess) and avoid weapon using the justice system. The hardcore small-government shtick and the EOs though all seem like he's just out for blood.

Perhaps you would like to consider that all of those people simply saw the writing on the wall and you did not.

From your posts, you seem to think you are a reasonable and intelligent person. Are you also capable of self-reflection?

OP here. I guess I think I'm reasonable and maybe intelligent, but that wasn't the thrust of the post. As for your question though, even with the benefit of hindsight, the resistance thing still strikes me (and I think many people) as ridiculous. Whatever his personal wishes, trump simply does not have enough control over any institution that counts to be anything even remotely approaching a dictator. I get that he may well like the aesthetics, and he's definitely way too close to a wannabe authoritarian for my comfort, but it always struck me (and still does strike me) as insensitive to pretend like it's the same experience to be a Democrat under Trump as it is to be a dissident under Ceausescu or something.

I guess you don't see that the Democrats are sounding the alarm about what is coming if we do nothing. They are NOT saying that that is the way it is now. Where do you get your news ftom, BTW?

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Anonymous wrote:I never liked Trump, but I also very much dislike the Democrats. It'd be too strong to say I was rooting for Trump or that I thought he'd to a good job, but I thought there was a *chance* he'd do a good job, and, for the sake of the country, I was really hoping he would. I didn't vote for him, but I also never seriously considered voting for Harris or Biden. I thought Trump's first term was at moments scary but overall pretty good.

With the wind-up, let me say: geez Louise this is going shittily.

You are missing the big picture. It’s bad for Wall Street. But this is going great if you are from Main Street.
No pain, no gain. Finally a president who is fighting for main street.
Manufacturing jobs will have to come back to the US. If these corporations don’t do it, they will keep watching their stock prices sinking.

and you believe this domestic manufacturing boom will manifest itself within what time frame?

It could take years. It’ll be painful but it will make us stronger. Our kids will thank us.
We have been through recessions before and came out stronger. Why are people so scared?

NP. You don't understand that manufacturing ended up in SE Asia because it was cheaper. This was beneficial for the US consumer. "Bringing manufacturing back" will mean that products will cost 5-10x to produce.

It will cost 5-10x more but will be better quality and last longer.
The American dream wasn’t about cheap Chinese products.
Americans will pay more for good quality US made products.

Please, the American Dream is more crap, not better quality. Why do you think the dollar store and Walmart do well with middle America?

Well, middle America had been sold a fake American Dream by you Democrats.
MAGA is promising us a better American Dream without the cheap craps.

Proof of this? I'll wait.

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What do you all think of this analysis this is the plan to bring down stocks, interest rates and refinance debt?

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Anonymous wrote:You're not well-informed OP. Turn off Fox News and go to the library. Ask the librarian to teach you how to do research.

DOGE just cut library funding.

Good. Libraries should not be federalized anyway. Cut the money and send it back to the states.

They should cut Washington DC out of anything and everything they can. It's an overgrown Soviet politburo.

We need a weak federal govt and strong state governments, as the framers intended.

Wrong. The framers did not intend for any part of the government to be weak.

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60% of US workers do not have a college degree

https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/educational-attainment.htm

And DCUM believes most of the country cares about the stock market ?

They are just trying to survive the overwhelming immigration pushed by urban elites

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Anonymous wrote:What do you all think of this analysis this is the plan to bring down stocks, interest rates and refinance debt?

This guy can figure out how we're supposed to replace the money we were going to use to send our kids to college or to retire or he can shut up.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you all think of this analysis this is the plan to bring down stocks, interest rates and refinance debt?

Warren Buffet did not say that.

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Anonymous wrote:60% of US workers do not have a college degree

https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/educational-attainment.htm

And DCUM believes most of the country cares about the stock market ?

They are just trying to survive the overwhelming immigration pushed by urban elites

Many of those who didn't go to college have 401k retirement accounts. Believe me, they're paying attention.

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Anonymous wrote:60% of US workers do not have a college degree

https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/educational-attainment.htm

And DCUM believes most of the country cares about the stock market ?

They are just trying to survive the overwhelming immigration pushed by urban elites

Baby, when these 401k "elites" you speak of will stop spending because they see their nest egg disappearing, believe me, the restaurant worker will notice, the landscaper will notice, the contractor will notice, the hairdresser will notice, the car salesman will notice. It's all tied together. The last thing on their mind will be the immigrants at that point.

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Anonymous wrote:60% of US workers do not have a college degree

https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/educational-attainment.htm

And DCUM believes most of the country cares about the stock market ?

They are just trying to survive the overwhelming immigration pushed by urban elites

Well with the immigrants gone these 60% of Americans without a college degree can go pick produce because boot straps yada yada.

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Anonymous wrote:60% of US workers do not have a college degree

https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/educational-attainment.htm

And DCUM believes most of the country cares about the stock market ?

They are just trying to survive the overwhelming immigration pushed by urban elites

Baby, when these 401k "elites" you speak of will stop spending because they see their nest egg disappearing, believe me, the restaurant worker will notice, the landscaper will notice, the contractor will notice, the hairdresser will notice, the car salesman will notice. It's all tied together. The last thing on their mind will be the immigrants at that point.

I can’t believe PP thinks that people who didn’t go to college don’t have 401ks or any interest in stocks. Yet it’s the dems who are supposed to be so elitist?

There are some extremely stupid people posting here. I can’t believe this site is known for intelligence.

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Anonymous wrote:60% of US workers do not have a college degree

https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/educational-attainment.htm

And DCUM believes most of the country cares about the stock market ?

They are just trying to survive the overwhelming immigration pushed by urban elites

Baby, when these 401k "elites" you speak of will stop spending because they see their nest egg disappearing, believe me, the restaurant worker will notice, the landscaper will notice, the contractor will notice, the hairdresser will notice, the car salesman will notice. It's all tied together. The last thing on their mind will be the immigrants at that point.

I can’t believe PP thinks that people who didn’t go to college don’t have 401ks or any interest in stocks. Yet it’s the dems who are supposed to be so elitist?

There are some extremely stupid people posting here. I can’t believe this site is known for intelligence.

Yes, it's all tied together, that is why it's absurd that Democrats think they can bring in immigrants to isolated segments of the economy and not have weird effects. Why have we been so into tech all these years, well that is where the cheap labor is at. People investing in their 401k put their money into cheap labor body shops instead of growing the broader economy. Then they whine, but they have cheap labor in strawberries, but we can't make any money in dairy because dairy isn't seasonal, so you'll just have to give us more immigrants so the dairy farmers can be profitable. What about manufacturing, if we can just have some cheap marginalized labor for manufacturing. If we can just hire some of those H-1Bs from academia, we can have AI...

Oh, now we're all underpaid, go figure.

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Anonymous wrote:60% of US workers do not have a college degree

https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/educational-attainment.htm

And DCUM believes most of the country cares about the stock market ?

They are just trying to survive the overwhelming immigration pushed by urban elites

It doesn’t matter whether they care about the stock market. The stock market will take care of them. When the stock market crash leads to mass layoffs by businesses and these people who don’t care about the stock market start losing their jobs, they will begin to care.

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Anonymous wrote:60% of US workers do not have a college degree

https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/educational-attainment.htm

And DCUM believes most of the country cares about the stock market ?

They are just trying to survive the overwhelming immigration pushed by urban elites

Many of those who didn't go to college have 401k retirement accounts. Believe me, they're paying attention.

yep.

https://www.asppa-net.org/news/2025/3/more-than-half-of-u.s.-households-have-retirement-accounts-crs-says

More than half of U.S. households had retirement accounts in a just-released study by the Congressional Research Service.

That’s 54%, to be exact, according to the CRS in “Distribution of Retirement Account Balances: Analysis of the 2022 Survey of Consumer Finances,” released on Feb. 26, 2025.

In 2020, working-age baby boomers ages 56 to 64 were the most likely to own at least one type of retirement account (58.1%).

Generation or Gen X members ages 40 to 55 were the next most likely to own retirement accounts (56.1%).

About half (49.5%) of Millennials ages 24 to 39 owned at least one type of retirement account but only 7.7% of Generation or Gen Z members ages 15 to 23 owned a retirement account.

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/08/who-has-retirement-accounts.html

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Anonymous wrote:60% of US workers do not have a college degree

https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/educational-attainment.htm

And DCUM believes most of the country cares about the stock market ?

They are just trying to survive the overwhelming immigration pushed by urban elites

It doesn’t matter whether they care about the stock market. The stock market will take care of them. When the stock market crash leads to mass layoffs by businesses and these people who don’t care about the stock market start losing their jobs, they will begin to care.

This is an example of what we might call trickle down economics, lol.