Schools most harmed and those most benefiting once NIH, DHS funding resumes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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This thread is going to get list in the colleges area but it is a massive policy shift for biomedical research and health.

How does this benefit MAGA voters or red states? Research is expensive but compared to our national budget it is nothing. Confused, How is science and medical research partisan?

MAGAs must believe they are a superior breed of humans immune from cancer, Alzheimer’s and premier afflictions.

stop lumping all magas together. some like jd vance, elon, rfk even, and trump’s family are fairly well educated. the reality is the democrats gave a piss poor choice. kamala was an abject disaster with an inability to put forth a plan that would solve the inflationary issues or budget deficit . trump was a less bad alternative.

Harris was a way better option than Trump. Misogyny and racism won the day on Nov. 5th.

America will pay the price.

But....the price of eggs!

Yup! The 45% Hispanic population, 39% of Asians and 20% of Blacks who voted for Trump are all racist.

Who better to tell these Hispanics, Asians and Blacks what is good for them and if they are racist or not than a white woman?

but but but you’re racist

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bump

This thread is going to get list in the colleges area but it is a massive policy shift for biomedical research and health.

How does this benefit MAGA voters or red states? Research is expensive but compared to our national budget it is nothing. Confused, How is science and medical research partisan?

MAGAs must believe they are a superior breed of humans immune from cancer, Alzheimer’s and premier afflictions.

stop lumping all magas together. some like jd vance, elon, rfk even, and trump’s family are fairly well educated. the reality is the democrats gave a piss poor choice. kamala was an abject disaster with an inability to put forth a plan that would solve the inflationary issues or budget deficit . trump was a less bad alternative.

Trump hasn’t once mentioned anything to bring down inflation other than the weakest EO on the planet.

In fact, he specifically mentioned policies like tariffs that would increase inflation.

Also, nobody gives a shit about the budget deficit…both your arguments are just the subterfuge for providing the real reasons for voting MAGA.

in correct - he advocated for reduced government spending and a balanced budget repeatedly which would
infact lower inflation. tariffs as a policy are one cog in the complex economic system. It appears you are the one who did no research

And yet you never considered that he greatly increased the deficit during his first term, incredible.

im well aware of his first term. he made a lot of noticeable changes since including allying himself with fiscally conservative republicans and thought leaders. kamala would have been more of the same

So I don’t get it…the first two weeks have been kind of awful with inflation increasing again and the proposed tariffs absolutely increasing prices…a proposal to colonize Gaza that would be a massive increase to the deficit and in fact inject America into an endless foreign conflict…immigration raids that barely arrest anyone and they just release them back into the population….Elon running wild.

The actual budget proposed does nothing on the deficit except make it larger.

More of the same would have been just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bump

This thread is going to get list in the colleges area but it is a massive policy shift for biomedical research and health.

How does this benefit MAGA voters or red states? Research is expensive but compared to our national budget it is nothing. Confused, How is science and medical research partisan?

MAGAs must believe they are a superior breed of humans immune from cancer, Alzheimer’s and premier afflictions.

stop lumping all magas together. some like jd vance, elon, rfk even, and trump’s family are fairly well educated. the reality is the democrats gave a piss poor choice. kamala was an abject disaster with an inability to put forth a plan that would solve the inflationary issues or budget deficit . trump was a less bad alternative.

Harris was a way better option than Trump. Misogyny and racism won the day on Nov. 5th.

America will pay the price.

But....the price of eggs!

Yup! The 45% Hispanic population, 39% of Asians and 20% of Blacks who voted for Trump are all racist.

Who better to tell these Hispanics, Asians and Blacks what is good for them and if they are racist or not than a white woman?

There's misogyny too. You conveniently avoided that. Prevalent in "machismo" Latin community; some ignorant black men only like their women in strip clubs. Asians are jaded because smarter URMs are getting I to colleges.

In any event, those communities will rue they voted for Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bump

This thread is going to get list in the colleges area but it is a massive policy shift for biomedical research and health.

How does this benefit MAGA voters or red states? Research is expensive but compared to our national budget it is nothing. Confused, How is science and medical research partisan?

MAGAs must believe they are a superior breed of humans immune from cancer, Alzheimer’s and premier afflictions.

stop lumping all magas together. some like jd vance, elon, rfk even, and trump’s family are fairly well educated. the reality is the democrats gave a piss poor choice. kamala was an abject disaster with an inability to put forth a plan that would solve the inflationary issues or budget deficit . trump was a less bad alternative.

Harris was a way better option than Trump. Misogyny and racism won the day on Nov. 5th.

America will pay the price.

But....the price of eggs!

Yup! The 45% Hispanic population, 39% of Asians and 20% of Blacks who voted for Trump are all racist.

Who better to tell these Hispanics, Asians and Blacks what is good for them and if they are racist or not than a white woman?

There's misogyny too. You conveniently avoided that. Prevalent in "machismo" Latin community; some ignorant black men only like their women in strip clubs. Asians are jaded because smarter URMs are getting I to colleges.

In any event, those communities will rue they voted for Trump.

Next level generalization like a clown right here

[Anonymous]

How did this thread turn into one about racism or DEI? Can we get back to the point? Which is that unless the most recent announcement is walked back due to it's ridiculousness, this is going to disastrous for scientific and medical research in our country. US will definitely no longer be a world leader in this area under these conditions. And no, it's not just going to affect the social sciences like some people seem to think. I work in research we are all stunned and find it surreal to see people celebrating Trump's decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bump

This thread is going to get list in the colleges area but it is a massive policy shift for biomedical research and health.

How does this benefit MAGA voters or red states? Research is expensive but compared to our national budget it is nothing. Confused, How is science and medical research partisan?

MAGAs must believe they are a superior breed of humans immune from cancer, Alzheimer’s and premier afflictions.

stop lumping all magas together. some like jd vance, elon, rfk even, and trump’s family are fairly well educated. the reality is the democrats gave a piss poor choice. kamala was an abject disaster with an inability to put forth a plan that would solve the inflationary issues or budget deficit . trump was a less bad alternative.

Trump hasn’t once mentioned anything to bring down inflation other than the weakest EO on the planet.

In fact, he specifically mentioned policies like tariffs that would increase inflation.

Also, nobody gives a shit about the budget deficit…both your arguments are just the subterfuge for providing the real reasons for voting MAGA.

in correct - he advocated for reduced government spending and a balanced budget repeatedly which would
infact lower inflation. tariffs as a policy are one cog in the complex economic system. It appears you are the one who did no research

And yet you never considered that he greatly increased the deficit during his first term, incredible.

im well aware of his first term. he made a lot of noticeable changes since including allying himself with fiscally conservative republicans and thought leaders. kamala would have been more of the same

So I don’t get it…the first two weeks have been kind of awful with inflation increasing again and the proposed tariffs absolutely increasing prices…a proposal to colonize Gaza that would be a massive increase to the deficit and in fact inject America into an endless foreign conflict…immigration raids that barely arrest anyone and they just release them back into the population….Elon running wild.

The actual budget proposed does nothing on the deficit except make it larger.

More of the same would have been just fine.

How can people seriously judge inflation in his first two weeks to him? That's insane and due to Biden's policy overhang.

Trump got almost all israel hostages to be released where as biden made significantly less progress. Trump also negotiated the ceasefire in Gaza when again Biden did absolutely nothing. I see progress.

Elon is the major area I disagree on from an execution perspective. I'd rather he be deported.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So it begins.

NIH lowers allowable indirect costs from 60% to 15%.

Seismic.

Indirect costs pay for the building maintenance, admin salaries, utilities, etc.

Johns Hopkins going to get slaughtered.

Yup. I am at Hopkins. We are in shock.

[Anonymous]

As for tariffs, Trump is using it as a negotition tool. Canada and Mexico have both agreed to invest more to fight against the drug trade harming both sides of the border in lieu of more tariffs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it begins.

NIH lowers allowable indirect costs from 60% to 15%.

Seismic.

Indirect costs pay for the building maintenance, admin salaries, utilities, etc.

Johns Hopkins going to get slaughtered.

Yup. I am at Hopkins. We are in shock.

Hopkins will not get slaughtered. I doubt you are there. Internal contingency planning already underway without alarm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it begins.

NIH lowers allowable indirect costs from 60% to 15%.

Seismic.

Indirect costs pay for the building maintenance, admin salaries, utilities, etc.

Johns Hopkins going to get slaughtered.

Yup. I am at Hopkins. We are in shock.

Hopkins will not get slaughtered. I doubt you are there. Internal contingency planning already underway without alarm.

You are probably not in the sciences and probably don't understand the fact that the email from the provost is trying to sound calm while everyone is in fact very much in a state of panic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bump

This thread is going to get list in the colleges area but it is a massive policy shift for biomedical research and health.

How does this benefit MAGA voters or red states? Research is expensive but compared to our national budget it is nothing. Confused, How is science and medical research partisan?

MAGAs must believe they are a superior breed of humans immune from cancer, Alzheimer’s and premier afflictions.

stop lumping all magas together. some like jd vance, elon, rfk even, and trump’s family are fairly well educated. the reality is the democrats gave a piss poor choice. kamala was an abject disaster with an inability to put forth a plan that would solve the inflationary issues or budget deficit . trump was a less bad alternative.

Harris was a way better option than Trump. Misogyny and racism won the day on Nov. 5th.

America will pay the price.

But....the price of eggs!

Yup! The 45% Hispanic population, 39% of Asians and 20% of Blacks who voted for Trump are all racist.

Who better to tell these Hispanics, Asians and Blacks what is good for them and if they are racist or not than a white woman?

There's misogyny too. You conveniently avoided that. Prevalent in "machismo" Latin community; some ignorant black men only like their women in strip clubs. Asians are jaded because smarter URMs are getting I to colleges.

In any event, those communities will rue they voted for Trump.

Macho Latin community; Ignorant black men; Jaded Asians.

And Trump is the racist!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How did this thread turn into one about racism or DEI? Can we get back to the point? Which is that unless the most recent announcement is walked back due to it's ridiculousness, this is going to disastrous for scientific and medical research in our country. US will definitely no longer be a world leader in this area under these conditions. And no, it's not just going to affect the social sciences like some people seem to think. I work in research we are all stunned and find it surreal to see people celebrating Trump's decisions.

My advice is to calm down. There was a lot of bloat and wasteful research that didn't contribute much. People have illustrated examples on this thread. But you'd rather believe in a different narrative so you pretend otherwise. I also cannot jump to automatically defend higher education because I'm not wild on how certain aspects of research was utilized through higher education, to use as a controversial but increasingly likely example, NIH gave grants to various universities who in turn subbed out the grants to a certain research lab in Wuhan, either directly or indirectly via a certain entity called EcoHealth Alliance. This is indisputable and factual. And I don't doubt we will learn a lot more about this as the new administration is determined to turn over all stones and reveal everything.

As it is, we also have a $36 trillion dollar deficit that really is not sustainable either. Cuts will have to be made. Deeply and significantly. I did notice that so far the initial attacks by the new administration is effectively a class warfare against the "educated" classes of America: higher edu, legacy media, Fed agencies. But these entities were not kind to the rest of America either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it begins.

NIH lowers allowable indirect costs from 60% to 15%.

Seismic.

Indirect costs pay for the building maintenance, admin salaries, utilities, etc.

Johns Hopkins going to get slaughtered.

Yup. I am at Hopkins. We are in shock.

Hopkins will not get slaughtered. I doubt you are there. Internal contingency planning already underway without alarm.

You are probably not in the sciences and probably don't understand the fact that the email from the provost is trying to sound calm while everyone is in fact very much in a state of panic.

I'm in the BME department. No, not everyone is panicking. This unilateral cut will not play out and will be challenged in short order with negotiations to happen

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it begins.

NIH lowers allowable indirect costs from 60% to 15%.

Seismic.

Indirect costs pay for the building maintenance, admin salaries, utilities, etc.

Johns Hopkins going to get slaughtered.

Yup. I am at Hopkins. We are in shock.

Hopkins will not get slaughtered. I doubt you are there. Internal contingency planning already underway without alarm.

You are probably not in the sciences and probably don't understand the fact that the email from the provost is trying to sound calm while everyone is in fact very much in a state of panic.

I'm in the BME department. No, not everyone is panicking. This unilateral cut will not play out and will be challenged in short order with negotiations to happen

I hope you are right, because it is too ridiculous to stand, but this bullshit should not have been proposed in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Whether you agree or disagree...hear this one out with the new administration...

Their new OMB director (Project 2025 fame) is a gradaute of Wheaton.

Wheaton put out a note congratulating him, much like they do for the hundreds of other alumni when they achieve a new career accomplishment.

A protest ensued among the faculty and Wheaton uncogratulated him.

Academia for whatever reason has an extreme bias towards left wing ideology, through its faculty, administration, students, curriculum, culture, etc.

Academia is completely reliant on the federal government.

NSF, DoD, DoEnergy grants are going not going to be spared.