Closing USAID

[Anonymous]

One of my party facts is that according to polls, Americans believe foreign aid is about 25% of the federal budget and on average that it *should* be about 10%.

The actual number is less than 1%.

Foreign aid has long been a bogey man of the right, so it's not surprising they're vilifying it now.

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Anonymous wrote:How sick and amoral is it that the world’s richest man is cutting food and medicine for the world’s poorest children, so that America’s wealthy can pay less taxes.

That is 100% what we are witnessing.

Not our responsibility. It’s the responsibility of those parents and governments to feed and medicate these children.

that's how you get the taliban, dumbass

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Where is Congress?

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Anonymous wrote:From this thread I understand that USAID is a drop in the bucket inconsequential benevolent org that also possesses super highly confidential and sensitive info that Elon and other Americans without the highest levels of security clearance can never be permitted to see.

Is who gets food aid really that sensitive or is this a vehicle for more important gov acticity?

No. Go fishing somewhere else. You're in the wrong pond.

Okay. So why is this all so sensitive and secretive?

Why is what so sensitive and secret?

CIA needs a little sunlight, or stop taking our tax dollars.

Dude. Do you even understand what the CIA is? Sure, why not publicize every single informant the CIA has and then they'll be dead by the end of the dya.

Trump already did that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where is Congress?

LOL, they are feckless and the GOP House and Senate members are simply abdicating their constitutional duties.

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Anonymous wrote:If USAID information is in a scif the there is something seriously amiss.

Not really. Many of USAID’s overseas foreign partners don’t want to be advertised in their home country as taking US money. It can be dangerous on the ground for them. USAID reps take confidential meetings with foreign government representatives; those discussions would be classified. China is always trying to undercut USAID or sabotage projects, so we need to work carefully and discreetly.

You get that foreign aid is a competition, right? We are competing with Russia and China to influence these foreign governments

Why is it a competition? So it is a foreign influence/opposition-in-other/countries funding mechanism? Are the American people really signing up for this?

You say that like it’s a bad thing. I like America First and spreading our influence, values, and democracy. I’d also rather have stable developing countries, lowering the risk of refugee and health crises.

Yes, the American people signed up for this. it was established by law by Congress and enacted via EO by President Kennedy. The U.S. - by law - is required to have a foreign aid agency.

It is a bad thing. I don’t think we should be colonizing the planet with our values and influence. That’s a white supremacist/Nazi mindset. Especially when other governments feel we are funding internal opposition within their domestic affairs. I know I don’t want other governments influencing our domestic affairs—like Russian Facebook election meddling.

GWB blew through trillions of dollars and killed hundreds of thousands spreading democracy. I thought we learned our lesson about the folly there.

Mutually beneficial, non-coercive trade sounds great. Why are health initiatives, development and refugee prevention so secretive?

Helping prevent the spread of bird flu, aids and Ebola is not "colonizing"

If it is so benign, then let the sunshine in and let ordinary citizens see what is happening.

If it is such a cornerstone of American national security, roll its functions up under DoD or State.

But the handwringing over a purported benign, cornerstone of our diplomacy, national security, and health also being treated as some kind of double secret probation top level of information security gives the APPEARANCE that perhaps something more nefarious is going on here.

You are a fool. If USAID becomes a DOD program then any charity program overseas would become a military target. Goddamn you idiots destroying our country just because you are too stupid to understand the basic realities of modern society.

Then put it under State? Did you just read past that part?

Basic realities of modern society? What exactly does that mean to you? Because the modern society you idiots in control have built isn’t working for a vast, vast number of Americans. That Fulani lure is precisely why you have the orange clown in power.

Maybe you fools could humble yourselves, acknowledge your failures and return the country’s resources and focus to helping Americans rather than helping everyone else.

Truly amazing that that 20 years later GWB’s worldview is being fully validated and embraced by the left and Democrats.

Cost of groceries continues to skyrocket and Trump doesn't even want to talk about it let alone lay out a plan. Instead Trump diddles about stupid shit like "DEI" while threatening access to healthcare keeping Americans healthy and alive. Cost of goods is about to go up even higher and people are going to get laid off because of Trump's idiotic trade war and his random defunding of infrastructure and other valuable projects right here in the US. Working class facing layoffs, stagnant wages, paying more for their cost of living and more in taxes, while the wealthiest profit and are given tax cuts. Planes crashing while highly qualified, vetted and flight-surgeon-certified Air Traffic Controllers get staffing and funding cuts while being demonized and insanely accused of being "dwarves, amputees and epileptics." Bird flu sweeping through livestock, measles outbreaks, yet Trump is demonizing and gutting public health officials. Putin is laughing at us, and is sending military airplanes to threaten American airspace. Our closest allies are alienated from us and are severing ties from us. We are actively driving the third world toward China and BRICS. I could go on and on and on about everything Trump is SCREWING UP right now.

THIS TRUMP SHIT IS NOT WORKING FOR MOST AMERICANS. The ONLY Americans this agenda is working for is billionaire technocrats and MAGA extremists so steeped in their own deranged propaganda that they are completely blind to what Trump is actually doing.

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Everyone who lives also dies. There's not been a full and transparent public discussion about whether the people of the US actually owe all this money to the third world, who hates us and views us as cultural colonizers. In one lens this is humanitarian. But in another, less American lens, this is soft imperialism. There's no plan for these nations to get better or stronger. We are just paying for stasis.

But this isn't why AID is being shut down. It's being shut down because it is believed to have funneled money to revolutionary efforts in the US, including funding the prosecutions through the org Fair and Just Prosecutions, via the Tide Center.

Time to take the tin-foil hat off.

I have friends who work(ed) at USAID. You have no idea the conditions they endure advancing the US mission by helping the poorest of the poor around the world.

You know that public grants are a matter of public record, right?

Look, let FJP tell you themselves. They are funded by Tides: https://fairandjustprosecution.org/

"Fair and Just Prosecution is a fiscally-sponsored project of The Tides Center, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization and the nation's largest fiscal sponsor."

Tides is funded, in part, by USAID:

https://www.highergov.com/grant/AIDOAAA1600007/

Fair and Just Prosecutions hasn't exactly been quiet about its role in the Trump prosecutions so I don't think I need to link that.

You look through all those subgrants listed and find the one that funds "Fair and Just Prosecution." Remember to take bathroom breaks.

[Anonymous]

National security is approached with the “three D” pillars: defense, diplomacy and development led by the Defense Department, State Department and USAID.

The US with abolishment of USAID is now fighting with one arm tied behind its back.

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Anonymous wrote:From this thread I understand that USAID is a drop in the bucket inconsequential benevolent org that also possesses super highly confidential and sensitive info that Elon and other Americans without the highest levels of security clearance can never be permitted to see.

Is who gets food aid really that sensitive or is this a vehicle for more important gov acticity?

No. Go fishing somewhere else. You're in the wrong pond.

Okay. So why is this all so sensitive and secretive?

Why is what so sensitive and secret?

CIA needs a little sunlight, or stop taking our tax dollars.

Dude. Do you even understand what the CIA is? Sure, why not publicize every single informant the CIA has and then they'll be dead by the end of the dya.

Again, just for you:
CIA needs a LITTLE sunlight, or stop taking our tax dollars.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From this thread I understand that USAID is a drop in the bucket inconsequential benevolent org that also possesses super highly confidential and sensitive info that Elon and other Americans without the highest levels of security clearance can never be permitted to see.

Is who gets food aid really that sensitive or is this a vehicle for more important gov acticity?

No. Go fishing somewhere else. You're in the wrong pond.

Okay. So why is this all so sensitive and secretive?

Why is what so sensitive and secret?

CIA needs a little sunlight, or stop taking our tax dollars.

Dude. Do you even understand what the CIA is? Sure, why not publicize every single informant the CIA has and then they'll be dead by the end of the dya.

Again, just for you:
CIA needs a LITTLE sunlight, or stop taking our tax dollars.

I think with a coup happening and an oligarch taking over from within is EXACTLY when CIA is needed.

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What kind of money are we talking, OP?

Which countries no longer have starving children as a result of all this funneled cash?

Wow. I often wonder how people could have voted for Trump. Then I read a response like this and see there really are awful, cold hearted people out there!

NP. Our own kids are hungry

And about to get a lot hungrier. Trump won't be helping poor Americans.

Won't be just helping poor Americans but all Americans. Fixed it for ya

they aren't going to help poor americans, they are going to cut taxes for the rich

this and anyone with common sense and a brain knew this all along. So tired of the FOX MAGA zombies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:National security is approached with the “three D” pillars: defense, diplomacy and development led by the Defense Department, State Department and USAID.

The US with abolishment of USAID is now fighting with one arm tied behind its back.

+1

The amount of ignorance is so vast out there. Just listen to the Jan6rs, proud boys, etc., all traitors.

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Anonymous wrote:From this thread I understand that USAID is a drop in the bucket inconsequential benevolent org that also possesses super highly confidential and sensitive info that Elon and other Americans without the highest levels of security clearance can never be permitted to see.

Is who gets food aid really that sensitive or is this a vehicle for more important gov acticity?

No. Go fishing somewhere else. You're in the wrong pond.

Okay. So why is this all so sensitive and secretive?

Why is what so sensitive and secret?

CIA needs a little sunlight, or stop taking our tax dollars.

Dude. Do you even understand what the CIA is? Sure, why not publicize every single informant the CIA has and then they'll be dead by the end of the dya.

Again, just for you:
CIA needs a LITTLE sunlight, or stop taking our tax dollars.

I think with a coup happening and an oligarch taking over from within is EXACTLY when CIA is needed.

Of course you believe you’re ALWAYS needed. Go to hell.

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Anonymous wrote:If USAID information is in a scif the there is something seriously amiss.

Not really. Many of USAID’s overseas foreign partners don’t want to be advertised in their home country as taking US money. It can be dangerous on the ground for them. USAID reps take confidential meetings with foreign government representatives; those discussions would be classified. China is always trying to undercut USAID or sabotage projects, so we need to work carefully and discreetly.

You get that foreign aid is a competition, right? We are competing with Russia and China to influence these foreign governments

Why is it a competition? So it is a foreign influence/opposition-in-other/countries funding mechanism? Are the American people really signing up for this?

You say that like it’s a bad thing. I like America First and spreading our influence, values, and democracy. I’d also rather have stable developing countries, lowering the risk of refugee and health crises.

Yes, the American people signed up for this. it was established by law by Congress and enacted via EO by President Kennedy. The U.S. - by law - is required to have a foreign aid agency.

It is a bad thing. I don’t think we should be colonizing the planet with our values and influence. That’s a white supremacist/Nazi mindset. Especially when other governments feel we are funding internal opposition within their domestic affairs. I know I don’t want other governments influencing our domestic affairs—like Russian Facebook election meddling.

GWB blew through trillions of dollars and killed hundreds of thousands spreading democracy. I thought we learned our lesson about the folly there.

Mutually beneficial, non-coercive trade sounds great. Why are health initiatives, development and refugee prevention so secretive?

Helping prevent the spread of bird flu, aids and Ebola is not "colonizing"

If it is so benign, then let the sunshine in and let ordinary citizens see what is happening.

If it is such a cornerstone of American national security, roll its functions up under DoD or State.

But the handwringing over a purported benign, cornerstone of our diplomacy, national security, and health also being treated as some kind of double secret probation top level of information security gives the APPEARANCE that perhaps something more nefarious is going on here.

These agencies ALL have public reports and their budgets are open for public scruitiny. The sunshine is there, or it was until the websites were taken offline at the end of last week. Maybe check the internet wayback machine, but the information you seek is/was readily available.

USAID IS (or was) under the State Department.

There was ZERO sunshine on how much USAID gave to WUHAN lab.

[Anonymous]

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What kind of money are we talking, OP?

Which countries no longer have starving children as a result of all this funneled cash?

Wow. I often wonder how people could have voted for Trump. Then I read a response like this and see there really are awful, cold hearted people out there!

NP. Our own kids are hungry

And they are trying to take away school lunches here as well. Tell me again how they are pro life?

This! MAGA are cold and nasty and all their pro life BS is really about pro birth(they don't actually care about the mother and child) and controlling women. Such good "christians"