European Parliament Elections Going Far Right

[Anonymous]

Frankly, younger people in Europe are angry, especially younger men. They are seeking alternatives. The shift to the right should not be a surprise.

[Anonymous]

Young French women are also moving right, with viral songs about remigration of migrants. They are also quite enamored with Bardella.

[Anonymous]

First England, then France...next up, USA

[Anonymous]

Results in and….The French Right is has all the power of a wet fart. The media loves to amplify their significance by breathlessly covering their every crazed utterance and a Zoomer doing a TikTok of some far Right song (only 300K views, many of which are “hate watchers”).

The French billionaire class loves the far Right, but they just are not gaining traction with the populace. Meanwhile, their older voting base dies off every year.

By the way the media reports it and tries to shove the Far Right down the throats of the public, you’d think they would be getting an outright majority of the country. Not even close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First England, then France...next up, USA

YESSSSS

They can do it and we can too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Results in and….The French Right is has all the power of a wet fart. The media loves to amplify their significance by breathlessly covering their every crazed utterance and a Zoomer doing a TikTok of some far Right song (only 300K views, many of which are “hate watchers”).

The French billionaire class loves the far Right, but they just are not gaining traction with the populace. Meanwhile, their older voting base dies off every year.

By the way the media reports it and tries to shove the Far Right down the throats of the public, you’d think they would be getting an outright majority of the country. Not even close.

I am very happy about the result but you don’t understand French politics. This isn’t the overwhelming endorsement of the left that you seem to think it is. It is a coalition win, and therefore weak.

[Anonymous]

I am so pleased with the results. I think a huge part of it was the Republicains refusing to join the far right. Some did, but most overwhelmingly said no to the RN. They performed very well. And then candidates on both the right and left dropping out to prevent a RN victory was great. Now as long as Melenchon types get shunned again by most of NFP, this will be a decent situation moving forward.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Results in and….The French Right is has all the power of a wet fart. The media loves to amplify their significance by breathlessly covering their every crazed utterance and a Zoomer doing a TikTok of some far Right song (only 300K views, many of which are “hate watchers”).

The French billionaire class loves the far Right, but they just are not gaining traction with the populace. Meanwhile, their older voting base dies off every year.

By the way the media reports it and tries to shove the Far Right down the throats of the public, you’d think they would be getting an outright majority of the country. Not even close.

I am very happy about the result but you don’t understand French politics. This isn’t the overwhelming endorsement of the left that you seem to think it is. It is a coalition win, and therefore weak.

I never said it was an overwhelming endorsement of the Left. That’s words you put in my mouth.

My point was that the media establishment in Western countries are hyping up the far right movements to such an insane degree that is not commensurate with their actual support. The polling also seems to be wildly off in Western countries in such a way that overstated far right popularity at the ballot box.

In the words of a great cultural critic, why the does the media keep “trying to make Fetch happen?” It’s as if he who pays the piper calls the tune.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Results in and….The French Right is has all the power of a wet fart. The media loves to amplify their significance by breathlessly covering their every crazed utterance and a Zoomer doing a TikTok of some far Right song (only 300K views, many of which are “hate watchers”).

The French billionaire class loves the far Right, but they just are not gaining traction with the populace. Meanwhile, their older voting base dies off every year.

By the way the media reports it and tries to shove the Far Right down the throats of the public, you’d think they would be getting an outright majority of the country. Not even close.

I am very happy about the result but you don’t understand French politics. This isn’t the overwhelming endorsement of the left that you seem to think it is. It is a coalition win, and therefore weak.

I never said it was an overwhelming endorsement of the Left. That’s words you put in my mouth.

My point was that the media establishment in Western countries are hyping up the far right movements to such an insane degree that is not commensurate with their actual support. The polling also seems to be wildly off in Western countries in such a way that overstated far right popularity at the ballot box.

In the words of a great cultural critic, why the does the media keep “trying to make Fetch happen?” It’s as if he who pays the piper calls the tune.

You misunderstand. The issue is that these parties have moved from the fringe to the mainstream. THAT is the issue. This would be like the Libertarians taking 30% of the vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Results in and….The French Right is has all the power of a wet fart. The media loves to amplify their significance by breathlessly covering their every crazed utterance and a Zoomer doing a TikTok of some far Right song (only 300K views, many of which are “hate watchers”).

The French billionaire class loves the far Right, but they just are not gaining traction with the populace. Meanwhile, their older voting base dies off every year.

By the way the media reports it and tries to shove the Far Right down the throats of the public, you’d think they would be getting an outright majority of the country. Not even close.

I am very happy about the result but you don’t understand French politics. This isn’t the overwhelming endorsement of the left that you seem to think it is. It is a coalition win, and therefore weak.

I never said it was an overwhelming endorsement of the Left. That’s words you put in my mouth.

My point was that the media establishment in Western countries are hyping up the far right movements to such an insane degree that is not commensurate with their actual support. The polling also seems to be wildly off in Western countries in such a way that overstated far right popularity at the ballot box.

In the words of a great cultural critic, why the does the media keep “trying to make Fetch happen?” It’s as if he who pays the piper calls the tune.

Your gross comment re bodily functions certainly implies that you think it’s an overwhelming endorsement of the left. I don’t know how else to read that.

In any event, what election has done is validated Le Pen. Just five years ago, saying you would vote for Le Pen would have gotten you excluded from much of French society. That isn’t the case any more.

The shock here isn’t that Le Pen didn’t win. That was not likely to happen. The shock is that it took a massive (and now weak) coalition to make that defeat happen. And Le Pen is now seen as a real force in French politics, not far-right noise.

I do not understand the celebration from the left over this result, other than of course being glad that Le Pen lost. It isn’t the rout or the victory that people seem to think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Results in and….The French Right is has all the power of a wet fart. The media loves to amplify their significance by breathlessly covering their every crazed utterance and a Zoomer doing a TikTok of some far Right song (only 300K views, many of which are “hate watchers”).

The French billionaire class loves the far Right, but they just are not gaining traction with the populace. Meanwhile, their older voting base dies off every year.

By the way the media reports it and tries to shove the Far Right down the throats of the public, you’d think they would be getting an outright majority of the country. Not even close.

I am very happy about the result but you don’t understand French politics. This isn’t the overwhelming endorsement of the left that you seem to think it is. It is a coalition win, and therefore weak.

I never said it was an overwhelming endorsement of the Left. That’s words you put in my mouth.

My point was that the media establishment in Western countries are hyping up the far right movements to such an insane degree that is not commensurate with their actual support. The polling also seems to be wildly off in Western countries in such a way that overstated far right popularity at the ballot box.

In the words of a great cultural critic, why the does the media keep “trying to make Fetch happen?” It’s as if he who pays the piper calls the tune.

You misunderstand. The issue is that these parties have moved from the fringe to the mainstream. THAT is the issue. This would be like the Libertarians taking 30% of the vote.

I’m not surprised at all that aging white Western populations outside of cities are susceptible to far right messaging as their faculties decline while their asset balances surge after saving for 40-50 years. Perhaps we should have foreseen this for the Baby Boomer cohort - they would be favorable to far right ideologies that thrive on fear and a nihilistic mentality of “I won’t be around to deal with the consequences.”

For every young Far Right supporter the media loves to showcase on TV, they are outnumbered 15:1 by Boomers who actually cast the ballots for these parties. If you actually Look at the crowd at Trump rallies - it’s vast majority age 55+. They just position the young people and people of color in the sight lines of the cameras. It’s why single Trump staffers in 2016-2020 had to ghettoize themselves at The Wharf in DC and a few neighborhoods in Northern VA - they are fish out of water in major cities among their age cohort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Results in and….The French Right is has all the power of a wet fart. The media loves to amplify their significance by breathlessly covering their every crazed utterance and a Zoomer doing a TikTok of some far Right song (only 300K views, many of which are “hate watchers”).

The French billionaire class loves the far Right, but they just are not gaining traction with the populace. Meanwhile, their older voting base dies off every year.

By the way the media reports it and tries to shove the Far Right down the throats of the public, you’d think they would be getting an outright majority of the country. Not even close.

I am very happy about the result but you don’t understand French politics. This isn’t the overwhelming endorsement of the left that you seem to think it is. It is a coalition win, and therefore weak.

I never said it was an overwhelming endorsement of the Left. That’s words you put in my mouth.

My point was that the media establishment in Western countries are hyping up the far right movements to such an insane degree that is not commensurate with their actual support. The polling also seems to be wildly off in Western countries in such a way that overstated far right popularity at the ballot box.

In the words of a great cultural critic, why the does the media keep “trying to make Fetch happen?” It’s as if he who pays the piper calls the tune.

Your gross comment re bodily functions certainly implies that you think it’s an overwhelming endorsement of the left. I don’t know how else to read that.

In any event, what election has done is validated Le Pen. Just five years ago, saying you would vote for Le Pen would have gotten you excluded from much of French society. That isn’t the case any more.

The shock here isn’t that Le Pen didn’t win. That was not likely to happen. The shock is that it took a massive (and now weak) coalition to make that defeat happen. And Le Pen is now seen as a real force in French politics, not far-right noise.

I do not understand the celebration from the left over this result, other than of course being glad that Le Pen lost. It isn’t the rout or the victory that people seem to think.

This already happened in 2022 French presidential election. LePen received 41.5% of the vote in the 2nd round. The left coalesced around Macron.

So yeah, 30% isn’t that shocking in this legislative election. The bigger shock is that LePen’s party did so poorly given the inordinate media hype of how they would “sweep” France.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Results in and….The French Right is has all the power of a wet fart. The media loves to amplify their significance by breathlessly covering their every crazed utterance and a Zoomer doing a TikTok of some far Right song (only 300K views, many of which are “hate watchers”).

The French billionaire class loves the far Right, but they just are not gaining traction with the populace. Meanwhile, their older voting base dies off every year.

By the way the media reports it and tries to shove the Far Right down the throats of the public, you’d think they would be getting an outright majority of the country. Not even close.

I am very happy about the result but you don’t understand French politics. This isn’t the overwhelming endorsement of the left that you seem to think it is. It is a coalition win, and therefore weak.

I never said it was an overwhelming endorsement of the Left. That’s words you put in my mouth.

My point was that the media establishment in Western countries are hyping up the far right movements to such an insane degree that is not commensurate with their actual support. The polling also seems to be wildly off in Western countries in such a way that overstated far right popularity at the ballot box.

In the words of a great cultural critic, why the does the media keep “trying to make Fetch happen?” It’s as if he who pays the piper calls the tune.

Your gross comment re bodily functions certainly implies that you think it’s an overwhelming endorsement of the left. I don’t know how else to read that.

In any event, what election has done is validated Le Pen. Just five years ago, saying you would vote for Le Pen would have gotten you excluded from much of French society. That isn’t the case any more.

The shock here isn’t that Le Pen didn’t win. That was not likely to happen. The shock is that it took a massive (and now weak) coalition to make that defeat happen. And Le Pen is now seen as a real force in French politics, not far-right noise.

I do not understand the celebration from the left over this result, other than of course being glad that Le Pen lost. It isn’t the rout or the victory that people seem to think.

It is because we expected a majority or a MUCH better score from RN. That didn't happen. It is actually a HUGE defeat for them even though they did well, sure...We knew they would do well. There was a real fear Bardella might be Premier Ministre, and there is now 0% chance of that. And to top it all off, the LEFT won, and Macron's alliance did better than expected as well even though they obviously lost a lot of seats. The majority of parties opted to work together to defeat RN, including many on the right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Results in and….The French Right is has all the power of a wet fart. The media loves to amplify their significance by breathlessly covering their every crazed utterance and a Zoomer doing a TikTok of some far Right song (only 300K views, many of which are “hate watchers”).

The French billionaire class loves the far Right, but they just are not gaining traction with the populace. Meanwhile, their older voting base dies off every year.

By the way the media reports it and tries to shove the Far Right down the throats of the public, you’d think they would be getting an outright majority of the country. Not even close.

I am very happy about the result but you don’t understand French politics. This isn’t the overwhelming endorsement of the left that you seem to think it is. It is a coalition win, and therefore weak.

I never said it was an overwhelming endorsement of the Left. That’s words you put in my mouth.

My point was that the media establishment in Western countries are hyping up the far right movements to such an insane degree that is not commensurate with their actual support. The polling also seems to be wildly off in Western countries in such a way that overstated far right popularity at the ballot box.

In the words of a great cultural critic, why the does the media keep “trying to make Fetch happen?” It’s as if he who pays the piper calls the tune.

You misunderstand. The issue is that these parties have moved from the fringe to the mainstream. THAT is the issue. This would be like the Libertarians taking 30% of the vote.

I’m not surprised at all that aging white Western populations outside of cities are susceptible to far right messaging as their faculties decline while their asset balances surge after saving for 40-50 years. Perhaps we should have foreseen this for the Baby Boomer cohort - they would be favorable to far right ideologies that thrive on fear and a nihilistic mentality of “I won’t be around to deal with the consequences.”

For every young Far Right supporter the media loves to showcase on TV, they are outnumbered 15:1 by Boomers who actually cast the ballots for these parties. If you actually Look at the crowd at Trump rallies - it’s vast majority age 55+. They just position the young people and people of color in the sight lines of the cameras. It’s why single Trump staffers in 2016-2020 had to ghettoize themselves at The Wharf in DC and a few neighborhoods in Northern VA - they are fish out of water in major cities among their age cohort.

It's actually the youth. Not the Boomers. And when you look at the political realignment in the US, it's similar.

I'm in Germany now, and a boomer relative explained that he hates Trump, hates AfD, hates the right. And then the conversation shifted a bit and he told me that he absolutely hates gays, and everything gay.

Meanwhile the youth are quite aligned with the right and have very permissive attitudes toward sexual mores, and permissive attitudes toward assimilated non-ethnic Germans. Their issues are about culture, economy, and security.

Re France, this election is interesting but the next few will be more interesting. This election will take the centrist Macron and drag him to the left with the New Popular Front.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Results in and….The French Right is has all the power of a wet fart. The media loves to amplify their significance by breathlessly covering their every crazed utterance and a Zoomer doing a TikTok of some far Right song (only 300K views, many of which are “hate watchers”).

The French billionaire class loves the far Right, but they just are not gaining traction with the populace. Meanwhile, their older voting base dies off every year.

By the way the media reports it and tries to shove the Far Right down the throats of the public, you’d think they would be getting an outright majority of the country. Not even close.

I am very happy about the result but you don’t understand French politics. This isn’t the overwhelming endorsement of the left that you seem to think it is. It is a coalition win, and therefore weak.

I never said it was an overwhelming endorsement of the Left. That’s words you put in my mouth.

My point was that the media establishment in Western countries are hyping up the far right movements to such an insane degree that is not commensurate with their actual support. The polling also seems to be wildly off in Western countries in such a way that overstated far right popularity at the ballot box.

In the words of a great cultural critic, why the does the media keep “trying to make Fetch happen?” It’s as if he who pays the piper calls the tune.

You misunderstand. The issue is that these parties have moved from the fringe to the mainstream. THAT is the issue. This would be like the Libertarians taking 30% of the vote.

I’m not surprised at all that aging white Western populations outside of cities are susceptible to far right messaging as their faculties decline while their asset balances surge after saving for 40-50 years. Perhaps we should have foreseen this for the Baby Boomer cohort - they would be favorable to far right ideologies that thrive on fear and a nihilistic mentality of “I won’t be around to deal with the consequences.”

For every young Far Right supporter the media loves to showcase on TV, they are outnumbered 15:1 by Boomers who actually cast the ballots for these parties. If you actually Look at the crowd at Trump rallies - it’s vast majority age 55+. They just position the young people and people of color in the sight lines of the cameras. It’s why single Trump staffers in 2016-2020 had to ghettoize themselves at The Wharf in DC and a few neighborhoods in Northern VA - they are fish out of water in major cities among their age cohort.

It's actually the youth. Not the Boomers. And when you look at the political realignment in the US, it's similar.

I'm in Germany now, and a boomer relative explained that he hates Trump, hates AfD, hates the right. And then the conversation shifted a bit and he told me that he absolutely hates gays, and everything gay.

Meanwhile the youth are quite aligned with the right and have very permissive attitudes toward sexual mores, and permissive attitudes toward assimilated non-ethnic Germans. Their issues are about culture, economy, and security.

Re France, this election is interesting but the next few will be more interesting. This election will take the centrist Macron and drag him to the left with the New Popular Front.

80% of Germans under the age of 35 are voting for a party other than AfD.

Media loves to miss the forest for the trees when it comes to the far right on both sides of the Atlantic.