Taylor Swift album Tortured Poets Department leaked early?

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor Swift is a good song writer and singer. But not by all means a GREAT writer or singer. She hit the market at the right time with social media, etc. her parents were a stock broker and a mutual fund manager. So she came from money and parents who had great connections to marketing and THEY have all done a great job creating a super star who does not appear to be a diva.

I hope she and Travis make it as a couple. After awhile if you can’t keep a relationship going then it’s not them, it’s you.

Why do people just make up random crap? You don’t like Taylor fine but this is not at all her origin story. she grew up in some town in Pennsylvania… Her dad was in finance but I promise you if he was some finance guru with mad connections he wouldn’t be doing it from Pennsylvania.

Seems like people are desperate to pin Taylor’s fame on someone else. Her dad, her connections, some white man Wizard of Oz behind the curtain did it, and she’s not all that talented.

Probably a good percent of DCUM posters come from wealthy families with connections. I know I did. And yet, none of us are 14 time Grammy winning billionaires are we?

What did that poster lie about? She's from an UMC family and was marketed well. It doesn't mean she has zero talent. Lots of people have talent and never make it big.

I didn’t say lie I said make up random crap. They acted as if her parents were some insane financial geniuses rather than just upper middle-class folks with fairly normal professional jobs. Please point to me these insane marketing connections that are solely responsible for Taylor’s rise. It’s just a way of putting her success off of her and onto someone else and it’s really pathetic. Happens all the time and I’ll call it out.

Her father bought a record label for his daughter: that’s a clear sign of paying your way in.

She never had to audition, make a demo, get the door slammed on her face , get rejected, get dropped or shelved, go through performance gigs or artist development boot camp . Those things build character

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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.

Eh, I just read an article that Joe made several million bucks off of Taylor‘s albums that he co-wrote some of the songs during lockdown.

It’s hard to feel too sorry for him. He knew what he was getting into dating the absolute number one pop star on earth. They got together in 2017. She was an absolute global phenomenon at that point. She had a phase where she backed off the public for a while but come on. They dated during her reputation tour, which was huge.

I’m sure he’s not complaining about the residuals he will get the rest of his life.

I think the issue is he is a Trump supporter and her fans were disappointed she would date him especially after her progressive Lover album.

By calling them vipers, she definitely making a bold claim about her man and her politics. The rumor before the Lover album was Taylor was Republican because she didn’t support Hillary in 2016 and stayed mum the entire election season.

She should’ve never done the virtue signaling and stayed apolitical. Calling her fans vipers because they didn’t like her MAGA boyfriend is hilarious . Taylor is unintentionally funny to me

Wut?

File that under stories she made up in her head.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.

Maybe they should've treated her better if they didn’t want to get called out for their bad behavior.

Yes, the most important thing is calling people out on their bad behavior during a relationship.
Particularly when they have signed an NDA about you and you are one of richest people in their world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor Swift is a good song writer and singer. But not by all means a GREAT writer or singer. She hit the market at the right time with social media, etc. her parents were a stock broker and a mutual fund manager. So she came from money and parents who had great connections to marketing and THEY have all done a great job creating a super star who does not appear to be a diva.

I hope she and Travis make it as a couple. After awhile if you can’t keep a relationship going then it’s not them, it’s you.

Why do people just make up random crap? You don’t like Taylor fine but this is not at all her origin story. she grew up in some town in Pennsylvania… Her dad was in finance but I promise you if he was some finance guru with mad connections he wouldn’t be doing it from Pennsylvania.

Seems like people are desperate to pin Taylor’s fame on someone else. Her dad, her connections, some white man Wizard of Oz behind the curtain did it, and she’s not all that talented.

Probably a good percent of DCUM posters come from wealthy families with connections. I know I did. And yet, none of us are 14 time Grammy winning billionaires are we?

What did that poster lie about? She's from an UMC family and was marketed well. It doesn't mean she has zero talent. Lots of people have talent and never make it big.

I didn’t say lie I said make up random crap. They acted as if her parents were some insane financial geniuses rather than just upper middle-class folks with fairly normal professional jobs. Please point to me these insane marketing connections that are solely responsible for Taylor’s rise. It’s just a way of putting her success off of her and onto someone else and it’s really pathetic. Happens all the time and I’ll call it out.

Her father bought a record label for his daughter: that’s a clear sign of paying your way in.

She never had to audition, make a demo, get the door slammed on her face , get rejected, get dropped or shelved, go through performance gigs or artist development boot camp . Those things build character

What are you talking about? So much disinformation out there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.

Maybe they should've treated her better if they didn’t want to get called out for their bad behavior.

Has she ever had a relationship where she only wrote generally positive songs or just that they grew apart? I'm a fan of her music but don't follow her personal life, so I have no idea about what songs are about whom or which guys were supposed to be the good ones or the bad ones.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.

Maybe they should've treated her better if they didn’t want to get called out for their bad behavior.

Has she ever had a relationship where she only wrote generally positive songs or just that they grew apart? I'm a fan of her music but don't follow her personal life, so I have no idea about what songs are about whom or which guys were supposed to be the good ones or the bad ones.

Back to December, Taylor Lautner.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.

Maybe they should've treated her better if they didn’t want to get called out for their bad behavior.

Has she ever had a relationship where she only wrote generally positive songs or just that they grew apart? I'm a fan of her music but don't follow her personal life, so I have no idea about what songs are about whom or which guys were supposed to be the good ones or the bad ones.

She takes the blame in a lot of these relationships, per this album. She's not a victim and doesn't pretend to be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taylor Swift is a good song writer and singer. But not by all means a GREAT writer or singer. She hit the market at the right time with social media, etc. her parents were a stock broker and a mutual fund manager. So she came from money and parents who had great connections to marketing and THEY have all done a great job creating a super star who does not appear to be a diva.

I hope she and Travis make it as a couple. After awhile if you can’t keep a relationship going then it’s not them, it’s you.

Why do people just make up random crap? You don’t like Taylor fine but this is not at all her origin story. she grew up in some town in Pennsylvania… Her dad was in finance but I promise you if he was some finance guru with mad connections he wouldn’t be doing it from Pennsylvania.

Seems like people are desperate to pin Taylor’s fame on someone else. Her dad, her connections, some white man Wizard of Oz behind the curtain did it, and she’s not all that talented.

Probably a good percent of DCUM posters come from wealthy families with connections. I know I did. And yet, none of us are 14 time Grammy winning billionaires are we?

What did that poster lie about? She's from an UMC family and was marketed well. It doesn't mean she has zero talent. Lots of people have talent and never make it big.

I didn’t say lie I said make up random crap. They acted as if her parents were some insane financial geniuses rather than just upper middle-class folks with fairly normal professional jobs. Please point to me these insane marketing connections that are solely responsible for Taylor’s rise. It’s just a way of putting her success off of her and onto someone else and it’s really pathetic. Happens all the time and I’ll call it out.

Her father bought a record label for his daughter: that’s a clear sign of paying your way in.

She never had to audition, make a demo, get the door slammed on her face , get rejected, get dropped or shelved, go through performance gigs or artist development boot camp . Those things build character

Not true. Scott Borchetta was starting a record label, Big Machine, saw Taylor perform at age 14 and signed her as his first artist. Taylor's dad bought a small 2-3% stake in the record company.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.

Maybe they should've treated her better if they didn’t want to get called out for their bad behavior.

Has she ever had a relationship where she only wrote generally positive songs or just that they grew apart? I'm a fan of her music but don't follow her personal life, so I have no idea about what songs are about whom or which guys were supposed to be the good ones or the bad ones.

She takes the blame in a lot of these relationships, per this album. She's not a victim and doesn't pretend to be.

But there doesn't need to be an accounting at all. If she were really trying to author these songs for closure, per the quote posted earlier, then why are we hearing about the relationships across more than one album? Will her next album include anyone other than Travis? She needs to learn to let some of this shit go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.

Maybe they should've treated her better if they didn’t want to get called out for their bad behavior.

Has she ever had a relationship where she only wrote generally positive songs or just that they grew apart? I'm a fan of her music but don't follow her personal life, so I have no idea about what songs are about whom or which guys were supposed to be the good ones or the bad ones.

She takes the blame in a lot of these relationships, per this album. She's not a victim and doesn't pretend to be.

But there doesn't need to be an accounting at all. If she were really trying to author these songs for closure, per the quote posted earlier, then why are we hearing about the relationships across more than one album? Will her next album include anyone other than Travis? She needs to learn to let some of this shit go.

I hear you but she is an artist. Not a normal person. This is what she does and how she processes it and she seems to have an endless supply of energy and inspiration and drive so we all get to hear about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.

Maybe they should've treated her better if they didn’t want to get called out for their bad behavior.

She’s a 34 year old woman. At some point, if you can’t make a relationship work, it says as much about you and your issues as it does about the men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.

Maybe they should've treated her better if they didn’t want to get called out for their bad behavior.

Has she ever had a relationship where she only wrote generally positive songs or just that they grew apart? I'm a fan of her music but don't follow her personal life, so I have no idea about what songs are about whom or which guys were supposed to be the good ones or the bad ones.

She takes the blame in a lot of these relationships, per this album. She's not a victim and doesn't pretend to be.

But there doesn't need to be an accounting at all. If she were really trying to author these songs for closure, per the quote posted earlier, then why are we hearing about the relationships across more than one album? Will her next album include anyone other than Travis? She needs to learn to let some of this shit go.

I hear you but she is an artist. Not a normal person. This is what she does and how she processes it and she seems to have an endless supply of energy and inspiration and drive so we all get to hear about it.

That's fair.

[Anonymous]

Can we go back to Joe being a trump supporter? Can I have whatever that poster is smoking

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taylor Swift is a good song writer and singer. But not by all means a GREAT writer or singer. She hit the market at the right time with social media, etc. her parents were a stock broker and a mutual fund manager. So she came from money and parents who had great connections to marketing and THEY have all done a great job creating a super star who does not appear to be a diva.

I hope she and Travis make it as a couple. After awhile if you can’t keep a relationship going then it’s not them, it’s you.

Why do people just make up random crap? You don’t like Taylor fine but this is not at all her origin story. she grew up in some town in Pennsylvania… Her dad was in finance but I promise you if he was some finance guru with mad connections he wouldn’t be doing it from Pennsylvania.

Seems like people are desperate to pin Taylor’s fame on someone else. Her dad, her connections, some white man Wizard of Oz behind the curtain did it, and she’s not all that talented.

Probably a good percent of DCUM posters come from wealthy families with connections. I know I did. And yet, none of us are 14 time Grammy winning billionaires are we?

What did that poster lie about? She's from an UMC family and was marketed well. It doesn't mean she has zero talent. Lots of people have talent and never make it big.

I didn’t say lie I said make up random crap. They acted as if her parents were some insane financial geniuses rather than just upper middle-class folks with fairly normal professional jobs. Please point to me these insane marketing connections that are solely responsible for Taylor’s rise. It’s just a way of putting her success off of her and onto someone else and it’s really pathetic. Happens all the time and I’ll call it out.

Her father bought a record label for his daughter: that’s a clear sign of paying your way in.

She never had to audition, make a demo, get the door slammed on her face , get rejected, get dropped or shelved, go through performance gigs or artist development boot camp . Those things build character

You are so utterly wrong it’s laughable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.

Maybe they should've treated her better if they didn’t want to get called out for their bad behavior.

I'm sure you defended Justin Timberlake too. Well no you did not.