Thanks to the bike party organizers!

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Anonymous wrote:I see this type of driver behavior all.the.time.

But sure, its the bikes that are dangerous




The cyclist is traveling in the left lane at a rate of speed 1/3 below the speed limit and normal flow of traffic. The car made a pass that provided a safe distance between the cyclist and the vehicle. The cyclist complains that the pass was made over double yellow, okay, but the cyclist continues to travel in the left lane as a slower moving vehicle, demonstrating that they were determined not to let anyone pass them. It’s also funny to see cyclist claim they stopped at red light, when it looks like they are illegally in the crosswalk and the spedometer says 4 MPH, indicating that they are still moving and not actually stopped.


Also, there are cars parked in what you would call the right lane. Where would you expect the cyclist to ride, over the parked cars?

The photo on the top right, they are traveling in the left lane at 16 MPH with no cars in right lane. That is a traffic violation.
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Anonymous wrote:We have more than 150 miles of bike lanes. Seems like more than enough given how few people ride bikes.


We’ve built an entirely new transportation system, costing billions of dollars, for a tiny number of white guys who think they’re too good for the bus



Political power is getting a city with a 20 percent poverty rate, that’s cutting positions in schools because of budget constraints, to spend billions of dollars on your hobby



Here's a tiny sampling:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million for bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes


There's $52 million to build a separate bridge to Virginia next to one that already is there, but this one would just be for bicyclists. $52 MILLION! This is something WABA has been pushing.


Paid for by the Feds https://wtop.com/local/2022/09/bike-pedestrian-bridge-over-potomac-gets-20-million-boost-warner-trains-focus-on-rail-bridge/ (this is one of several federal installments)

And what is wrong with a safe place for recreational and commuting walkers and bikers to have a save place to cross? Have you ever walked or biked the 14th Street bridge? I have. It is a horrible experience.



Poor thing. That must be very difficult for you. Schools are cutting positions but we have $50 million to build cyclists their own private bridge? Maybe boondoggles for bicyclists from Georgetown can wait for more vulnerable people to get what they need first.


Two different budgets. One does not impact the other.


Of course they impact each other.


No, they really don't. Learn about how budgets work.


Yes they do. Learn basic logic. Just because something is in a different bowl doesn't mean that it came from a different pot.


Operational versus Capital.

Budget 101.


Income versus expenses.

Accounting 101.
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Anonymous wrote:Study after study shows bike lanes are good for business:

https://www.businessinsider.com/bike-lanes-good-for-business-studies-better-streets-2024-3

How many drive to Cleveland Park, for example, to shop?

Overview

The survey found that most area residents are looking for ways to de-prioritize car use in the neighborhood in favor of street design that benefits other modes of travel such as walking and cycling.

Safety is a dominant theme found in the comments, as is placemaking – creating public space that benefits residents over commuters
Businesses will benefit from more visits to Connecticut Ave if bike lanes are added
There is broad support for keeping the redesigned service lane for pedestrians and streateries only.
Lastly, we are likely to see fewer cars in the neighborhood as a result of a massive transformation of where we expect to work going forward, with most workers expecting to either shift to a hybrid or work-from-home routine after the pandemic.

Combined, these changes bode well for the livability of the neighborhood, vitality of our commercial areas and meeting our climate goals.
Key Findings

By a 2:1 margin (66%-34%) poll respondents prioritize adding protected bike lanes over retaining parking when it comes to the reconfiguration of Connecticut Ave. The wide margin of preference for bike lanes is found among survey respondents from each neighborhood.

The addition of bike lanes is likely to mean more business for the retailers. While half say their visits to business on Connecticut Ave wouldn’t be impacted by the addition of bike lanes, 36% said they would visit it more, while just 15% said they would visit less – a net boost to the businesses.

Residents were unambiguous that the redesigned service lane in Cleveland Park should remain car-free. The streetscape project, which gets implemented next year, will raise the level of the entire area to sidewalk level. Plans developed in 2017 call for the driving and parking lanes to remain but move at the pace of a pedestrian. When asked what should happen when the new lane is constructed, the results were clear: 78% want the new service lane open to pedestrians and streateries only – no cars.

How we work, versus how we used to work, is going to be different for most desk-job workers, resulting in fewer trips to the office. Among respondents who reported working at least some portion of the job from an office-like environment, only 27% said they plan to go back to working at the office full-time post-COVID, as compared to 79% who typically went to an office before the pandemic. Half say they will likely adopt a hybrid work schedule, splitting their time between home and office.

This ‘new normal’ for work will have impacts here, with fewer daily commuters on the roads and more opportunities for businesses to serve residents staying close to home during the work week. We asked about the prospect of a co-working site in Cleveland Park and 19% said they would consider that option. Many more (41%) said they would consider if they received a work benefit to do so. Adding daytime foot traffic at the commercial area through a flex-work space would be a boost to retailers at their least profitable day-part. With effort, and this data, we hope to recruit a co-working space to the neighborhood.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-RWPZ69B89/

Oh wait, here is testimony from one business person in another city. We have heard the same from business owners on CT Ave how felt bullied by the "save connecticut Ave" folks



And scientists agree as well:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/we-need-to-make-cities-less-car-dependent/

Conclusion: The same solutions won’t work everywhere, and change won’t happen all at once. Each city has its own unique considerations and challenges. And such an ambitious project will require rethinking many of our assumptions about American car culture. But the benefits could make everyone healthier and safer.


It’s pretty rich that the bike bros lecture business about what’s good for them when it was largely the same group pushing to defund the police which led to every store on Connecticut Ave getting regularly looted for the past three years.


Everything about this statement is why this discussion goes nowhere. Some of the anti - bike team are so removed from reality that they make statements like this as if they are fact.


I pressed my Connecticut Ave ANC to make some noise on crime and they threw their hands up in the air. Something to the effect “We’re just a bunch of volunteers. That’s outside our jurisdiction.” But for every other progressive policy their authority was boundless. Bike lanes, women’s health, housing vouchers, gas stoves, welcoming city, etc.


That has nothing to do with what you are responding to
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see this type of driver behavior all.the.time.

But sure, its the bikes that are dangerous




The cyclist is traveling in the left lane at a rate of speed 1/3 below the speed limit and normal flow of traffic. The car made a pass that provided a safe distance between the cyclist and the vehicle. The cyclist complains that the pass was made over double yellow, okay, but the cyclist continues to travel in the left lane as a slower moving vehicle, demonstrating that they were determined not to let anyone pass them. It’s also funny to see cyclist claim they stopped at red light, when it looks like they are illegally in the crosswalk and the spedometer says 4 MPH, indicating that they are still moving and not actually stopped.


I don't know the cyclist, perhaps they were getting ready to turn left.

Either way, the cyclist has the right to ride in the lane and it is illegal for the driver to cross the double yellow line.

So you are wrong on both counts.

This is not true. All vehicles are required to keep right unless passing or the right lane is obstructed. This cyclist posted a photo of them in the left lane with the right lane unobstructed. It is nice of them to provide photo evidence of them breaking the law.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see this type of driver behavior all.the.time.

But sure, its the bikes that are dangerous




The cyclist is traveling in the left lane at a rate of speed 1/3 below the speed limit and normal flow of traffic. The car made a pass that provided a safe distance between the cyclist and the vehicle. The cyclist complains that the pass was made over double yellow, okay, but the cyclist continues to travel in the left lane as a slower moving vehicle, demonstrating that they were determined not to let anyone pass them. It’s also funny to see cyclist claim they stopped at red light, when it looks like they are illegally in the crosswalk and the spedometer says 4 MPH, indicating that they are still moving and not actually stopped.


I don't know the cyclist, perhaps they were getting ready to turn left.

Either way, the cyclist has the right to ride in the lane and it is illegal for the driver to cross the double yellow line.

So you are wrong on both counts.

There is no blanket prohibition for crossing a double yellow line in DC. However, the cyclist has recorded themselves committing at least one clear traffic violation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see this type of driver behavior all.the.time.

But sure, its the bikes that are dangerous




The cyclist is traveling in the left lane at a rate of speed 1/3 below the speed limit and normal flow of traffic. The car made a pass that provided a safe distance between the cyclist and the vehicle. The cyclist complains that the pass was made over double yellow, okay, but the cyclist continues to travel in the left lane as a slower moving vehicle, demonstrating that they were determined not to let anyone pass them. It’s also funny to see cyclist claim they stopped at red light, when it looks like they are illegally in the crosswalk and the spedometer says 4 MPH, indicating that they are still moving and not actually stopped.


I don't know the cyclist, perhaps they were getting ready to turn left.

Either way, the cyclist has the right to ride in the lane and it is illegal for the driver to cross the double yellow line.

So you are wrong on both counts.

There is no blanket prohibition for crossing a double yellow line in DC. However, the cyclist has recorded themselves committing at least one clear traffic violation.


You need a driving refresher if you believe this.

And what law did the cyclist break?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see this type of driver behavior all.the.time.

But sure, its the bikes that are dangerous




The cyclist is traveling in the left lane at a rate of speed 1/3 below the speed limit and normal flow of traffic. The car made a pass that provided a safe distance between the cyclist and the vehicle. The cyclist complains that the pass was made over double yellow, okay, but the cyclist continues to travel in the left lane as a slower moving vehicle, demonstrating that they were determined not to let anyone pass them. It’s also funny to see cyclist claim they stopped at red light, when it looks like they are illegally in the crosswalk and the spedometer says 4 MPH, indicating that they are still moving and not actually stopped.


I don't know the cyclist, perhaps they were getting ready to turn left.

Either way, the cyclist has the right to ride in the lane and it is illegal for the driver to cross the double yellow line.

So you are wrong on both counts.

There is no blanket prohibition for crossing a double yellow line in DC. However, the cyclist has recorded themselves committing at least one clear traffic violation.


You need a driving refresher if you believe this.

And what law did the cyclist break?

Please cite me the DC Code. The cyclist on the other hand clearly committed a traffic violation and helpfully even provided the evidence.

18 DCMR § 2201.2
​Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand plane then available for traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road, driveway, or alley.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see this type of driver behavior all.the.time.

But sure, its the bikes that are dangerous




The cyclist is traveling in the left lane at a rate of speed 1/3 below the speed limit and normal flow of traffic. The car made a pass that provided a safe distance between the cyclist and the vehicle. The cyclist complains that the pass was made over double yellow, okay, but the cyclist continues to travel in the left lane as a slower moving vehicle, demonstrating that they were determined not to let anyone pass them. It’s also funny to see cyclist claim they stopped at red light, when it looks like they are illegally in the crosswalk and the spedometer says 4 MPH, indicating that they are still moving and not actually stopped.


I don't know the cyclist, perhaps they were getting ready to turn left.

Either way, the cyclist has the right to ride in the lane and it is illegal for the driver to cross the double yellow line.

So you are wrong on both counts.

There is no blanket prohibition for crossing a double yellow line in DC. However, the cyclist has recorded themselves committing at least one clear traffic violation.


You need a driving refresher if you believe this.

And what law did the cyclist break?

Please cite me the DC Code. The cyclist on the other hand clearly committed a traffic violation and helpfully even provided the evidence.

18 DCMR § 2201.2
​Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand plane then available for traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road, driveway, or alley.


Bikes are allowed to take the full lane, look it up.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see this type of driver behavior all.the.time.

But sure, its the bikes that are dangerous




The cyclist is traveling in the left lane at a rate of speed 1/3 below the speed limit and normal flow of traffic. The car made a pass that provided a safe distance between the cyclist and the vehicle. The cyclist complains that the pass was made over double yellow, okay, but the cyclist continues to travel in the left lane as a slower moving vehicle, demonstrating that they were determined not to let anyone pass them. It’s also funny to see cyclist claim they stopped at red light, when it looks like they are illegally in the crosswalk and the spedometer says 4 MPH, indicating that they are still moving and not actually stopped.


I don't know the cyclist, perhaps they were getting ready to turn left.

Either way, the cyclist has the right to ride in the lane and it is illegal for the driver to cross the double yellow line.

So you are wrong on both counts.

There is no blanket prohibition for crossing a double yellow line in DC. However, the cyclist has recorded themselves committing at least one clear traffic violation.


You need a driving refresher if you believe this.

And what law did the cyclist break?

Please cite me the DC Code. The cyclist on the other hand clearly committed a traffic violation and helpfully even provided the evidence.

18 DCMR § 2201.2
​Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand plane then available for traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road, driveway, or alley.


Bikes are allowed to take the full lane, look it up.


In this case, there are two lanes. The bicyclist has recorded themselves traveling in the left lane going 16 MPH with no obstructions in the right lane. The law requires them at that point to move to the right lane. They do not. That is a clear cut traffic violation.

I would sneer at you to “look it up”, but I already provided the relevant DC Code.

You should tell your friends to not film themselves breaking the law while trying to make some point about a car that they claim is breaking the law. It’s what the kids call a “self own”.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see this type of driver behavior all.the.time.

But sure, its the bikes that are dangerous




The cyclist is traveling in the left lane at a rate of speed 1/3 below the speed limit and normal flow of traffic. The car made a pass that provided a safe distance between the cyclist and the vehicle. The cyclist complains that the pass was made over double yellow, okay, but the cyclist continues to travel in the left lane as a slower moving vehicle, demonstrating that they were determined not to let anyone pass them. It’s also funny to see cyclist claim they stopped at red light, when it looks like they are illegally in the crosswalk and the spedometer says 4 MPH, indicating that they are still moving and not actually stopped.


I don't know the cyclist, perhaps they were getting ready to turn left.

Either way, the cyclist has the right to ride in the lane and it is illegal for the driver to cross the double yellow line.

So you are wrong on both counts.

There is no blanket prohibition for crossing a double yellow line in DC. However, the cyclist has recorded themselves committing at least one clear traffic violation.


You need a driving refresher if you believe this.

And what law did the cyclist break?

Please cite me the DC Code. The cyclist on the other hand clearly committed a traffic violation and helpfully even provided the evidence.

18 DCMR § 2201.2
​Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand plane then available for traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road, driveway, or alley.


Bikes are allowed to take the full lane, look it up.



They would rather spend hours trying to prove one biker break one minor rule rather than show concern about cars and their respective traffic violations.
FWIW, looking at those photos it's pretty clear they're in that lane due to the cars parked on the right. It also appears to be a one lane road
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see this type of driver behavior all.the.time.

But sure, its the bikes that are dangerous




The cyclist is traveling in the left lane at a rate of speed 1/3 below the speed limit and normal flow of traffic. The car made a pass that provided a safe distance between the cyclist and the vehicle. The cyclist complains that the pass was made over double yellow, okay, but the cyclist continues to travel in the left lane as a slower moving vehicle, demonstrating that they were determined not to let anyone pass them. It’s also funny to see cyclist claim they stopped at red light, when it looks like they are illegally in the crosswalk and the spedometer says 4 MPH, indicating that they are still moving and not actually stopped.


I don't know the cyclist, perhaps they were getting ready to turn left.

Either way, the cyclist has the right to ride in the lane and it is illegal for the driver to cross the double yellow line.

So you are wrong on both counts.

There is no blanket prohibition for crossing a double yellow line in DC. However, the cyclist has recorded themselves committing at least one clear traffic violation.


You need a driving refresher if you believe this.

And what law did the cyclist break?

Please cite me the DC Code. The cyclist on the other hand clearly committed a traffic violation and helpfully even provided the evidence.

18 DCMR § 2201.2
​Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand plane then available for traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road, driveway, or alley.


Bikes are allowed to take the full lane, look it up.


In this case, there are two lanes. The bicyclist has recorded themselves traveling in the left lane going 16 MPH with no obstructions in the right lane. The law requires them at that point to move to the right lane. They do not. That is a clear cut traffic violation.

I would sneer at you to “look it up”, but I already provided the relevant DC Code.

You should tell your friends to not film themselves breaking the law while trying to make some point about a car that they claim is breaking the law. It’s what the kids call a “self own”.


Ha. Bicyclists don't even know how "Idaho stops" (stupid euphemism) are supposed to work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see this type of driver behavior all.the.time.

But sure, its the bikes that are dangerous




The cyclist is traveling in the left lane at a rate of speed 1/3 below the speed limit and normal flow of traffic. The car made a pass that provided a safe distance between the cyclist and the vehicle. The cyclist complains that the pass was made over double yellow, okay, but the cyclist continues to travel in the left lane as a slower moving vehicle, demonstrating that they were determined not to let anyone pass them. It’s also funny to see cyclist claim they stopped at red light, when it looks like they are illegally in the crosswalk and the spedometer says 4 MPH, indicating that they are still moving and not actually stopped.


I don't know the cyclist, perhaps they were getting ready to turn left.

Either way, the cyclist has the right to ride in the lane and it is illegal for the driver to cross the double yellow line.

So you are wrong on both counts.

There is no blanket prohibition for crossing a double yellow line in DC. However, the cyclist has recorded themselves committing at least one clear traffic violation.


You need a driving refresher if you believe this.

And what law did the cyclist break?

Please cite me the DC Code. The cyclist on the other hand clearly committed a traffic violation and helpfully even provided the evidence.

18 DCMR § 2201.2
​Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand plane then available for traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road, driveway, or alley.


Bikes are allowed to take the full lane, look it up.



They would rather spend hours trying to prove one biker break one minor rule rather than show concern about cars and their respective traffic violations.
FWIW, looking at those photos it's pretty clear they're in that lane due to the cars parked on the right. It also appears to be a one lane road

Show me where in the DC Code the car committed a traffic violation.

This is really the problem with you cyclists. You do not even know the traffic laws and you are out here preaching while breaking them left, right and center.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see this type of driver behavior all.the.time.

But sure, its the bikes that are dangerous




The cyclist is traveling in the left lane at a rate of speed 1/3 below the speed limit and normal flow of traffic. The car made a pass that provided a safe distance between the cyclist and the vehicle. The cyclist complains that the pass was made over double yellow, okay, but the cyclist continues to travel in the left lane as a slower moving vehicle, demonstrating that they were determined not to let anyone pass them. It’s also funny to see cyclist claim they stopped at red light, when it looks like they are illegally in the crosswalk and the spedometer says 4 MPH, indicating that they are still moving and not actually stopped.


I don't know the cyclist, perhaps they were getting ready to turn left.

Either way, the cyclist has the right to ride in the lane and it is illegal for the driver to cross the double yellow line.

So you are wrong on both counts.

There is no blanket prohibition for crossing a double yellow line in DC. However, the cyclist has recorded themselves committing at least one clear traffic violation.


You need a driving refresher if you believe this.

And what law did the cyclist break?

Please cite me the DC Code. The cyclist on the other hand clearly committed a traffic violation and helpfully even provided the evidence.

18 DCMR § 2201.2
​Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand plane then available for traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road, driveway, or alley.


Bikes are allowed to take the full lane, look it up.


In this case, there are two lanes. The bicyclist has recorded themselves traveling in the left lane going 16 MPH with no obstructions in the right lane. The law requires them at that point to move to the right lane. They do not. That is a clear cut traffic violation.

I would sneer at you to “look it up”, but I already provided the relevant DC Code.

You should tell your friends to not film themselves breaking the law while trying to make some point about a car that they claim is breaking the law. It’s what the kids call a “self own”.


There are cars parked in the right lane, ergo there are not two lanes.

You show zero concern about the more dangerous car illegally crossing double yellow lines - a hard no, to pass the cyclist. The only time it is legal to cross double yellow lines is in the event of a left turn. Period, that is it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see this type of driver behavior all.the.time.

But sure, its the bikes that are dangerous




The cyclist is traveling in the left lane at a rate of speed 1/3 below the speed limit and normal flow of traffic. The car made a pass that provided a safe distance between the cyclist and the vehicle. The cyclist complains that the pass was made over double yellow, okay, but the cyclist continues to travel in the left lane as a slower moving vehicle, demonstrating that they were determined not to let anyone pass them. It’s also funny to see cyclist claim they stopped at red light, when it looks like they are illegally in the crosswalk and the spedometer says 4 MPH, indicating that they are still moving and not actually stopped.


I don't know the cyclist, perhaps they were getting ready to turn left.

Either way, the cyclist has the right to ride in the lane and it is illegal for the driver to cross the double yellow line.

So you are wrong on both counts.

There is no blanket prohibition for crossing a double yellow line in DC. However, the cyclist has recorded themselves committing at least one clear traffic violation.


You need a driving refresher if you believe this.

And what law did the cyclist break?

Please cite me the DC Code. The cyclist on the other hand clearly committed a traffic violation and helpfully even provided the evidence.

18 DCMR § 2201.2
​Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand plane then available for traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road, driveway, or alley.


Bikes are allowed to take the full lane, look it up.



They would rather spend hours trying to prove one biker break one minor rule rather than show concern about cars and their respective traffic violations.
FWIW, looking at those photos it's pretty clear they're in that lane due to the cars parked on the right. It also appears to be a one lane road

Show me where in the DC Code the car committed a traffic violation.

This is really the problem with you cyclists. You do not even know the traffic laws and you are out here preaching while breaking them left, right and center.


Crossing a double yellow to pass another vehicle is about as blatant a moving violation as exists on the books.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see this type of driver behavior all.the.time.

But sure, its the bikes that are dangerous




The cyclist is traveling in the left lane at a rate of speed 1/3 below the speed limit and normal flow of traffic. The car made a pass that provided a safe distance between the cyclist and the vehicle. The cyclist complains that the pass was made over double yellow, okay, but the cyclist continues to travel in the left lane as a slower moving vehicle, demonstrating that they were determined not to let anyone pass them. It’s also funny to see cyclist claim they stopped at red light, when it looks like they are illegally in the crosswalk and the spedometer says 4 MPH, indicating that they are still moving and not actually stopped.


I don't know the cyclist, perhaps they were getting ready to turn left.

Either way, the cyclist has the right to ride in the lane and it is illegal for the driver to cross the double yellow line.

So you are wrong on both counts.

There is no blanket prohibition for crossing a double yellow line in DC. However, the cyclist has recorded themselves committing at least one clear traffic violation.


You need a driving refresher if you believe this.

And what law did the cyclist break?

Please cite me the DC Code. The cyclist on the other hand clearly committed a traffic violation and helpfully even provided the evidence.

18 DCMR § 2201.2
​Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand plane then available for traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road, driveway, or alley.


Bikes are allowed to take the full lane, look it up.


In this case, there are two lanes. The bicyclist has recorded themselves traveling in the left lane going 16 MPH with no obstructions in the right lane. The law requires them at that point to move to the right lane. They do not. That is a clear cut traffic violation.

I would sneer at you to “look it up”, but I already provided the relevant DC Code.

You should tell your friends to not film themselves breaking the law while trying to make some point about a car that they claim is breaking the law. It’s what the kids call a “self own”.


There are cars parked in the right lane, ergo there are not two lanes.

You show zero concern about the more dangerous car illegally crossing double yellow lines - a hard no, to pass the cyclist. The only time it is legal to cross double yellow lines is in the event of a left turn. Period, that is it.

This is why you people lose. Because you have bad faith and people get tired of this crap. If you want to pretend that there is not a photo in this thread of a cyclist going 16 MPH down a road in the left lane with an unobstructed right lane, you can go ahead and be crazy on your own.
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