Minimum math at TJ

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And the insane racists are back, advocating for reducing education.

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Anonymous wrote:The Chinese and Indian weekend school entrepreneurs sold immigrant families on the idea of TJ for social mobility. The way to do that was offer more advanced math classes to only those communities which would give them a leg up in admissions. Hence the math jump came from those Asian students. And it worked, they got in. It is deeply unhealthy for most of those students.

You are a racist who hates his own race? that issue aside ...
The black families invested all their kids times into sports and went onto dominate not just high school/college basketball and eventually the NBA multibillion dollar business. Is that deeply unhealthy too? The white families invested all their kids times into ice hockey and baseball and went onto dominate in those sports in not just high school/college but also the NHL and MLB trillion dollar industry. Is that deeply unhealthy too? Fake equity warriors too afraid to call out lack of diversity here?

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Anonymous wrote:And the insane racists are back, advocating for reducing education.

Someone needs to advocate for the kids. Good for FCPS to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:The Chinese and Indian weekend school entrepreneurs sold immigrant families on the idea of TJ for social mobility. The way to do that was offer more advanced math classes to only those communities which would give them a leg up in admissions. Hence the math jump came from those Asian students. And it worked, they got in. It is deeply unhealthy for most of those students.

You are a racist who hates his own race? that issue aside ...
The black families invested all their kids times into sports and went onto dominate not just high school/college basketball and eventually the NBA multibillion dollar business. Is that deeply unhealthy too? The white families invested all their kids times into ice hockey and baseball and went onto dominate in those sports in not just high school/college but also the NHL and MLB trillion dollar industry. Is that deeply unhealthy too? Fake equity warriors too afraid to call out lack of diversity here?

DP. Are you being ironic? Yes, that's unhealthy. Kids are getting and injured and don't take school seriously. Making it big in the NBA or NFL is like winning the lottery. That's not a plan and focusing on it is a misallocation or resources. As is cramming for TJ admissions, whether a kid gets in or does not.

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A good number of the Black kids who do well in basketball are noticed playing street ball at a young age and are brought onto AAU teams and the like. Strong basketball players are recruited for college prep teams, to include providing housing or kids, so that they can help a school win a championship or two. The families of the kids see it as an opportunity to get a better education but mainly to be scouted for a college program.

The parents of underprivileged kids who end up playing college sports or professional sports are not paying for their kids to play basketball. They might pay for a basketball for the kid to use on the courts but they are not paying for clinics and travel teams and AAU. The parents who are paying for all of that are middle to high income families.

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The sports “analogy” is so racist for every race that I can only assume that the person who posted it is just really stupid or really hates themselves.

It assumes that Asians cannot play sports. And I assure you, looking at what is going on in the MLB that is not the case. And looking at the girls basketball team at TJ- there are Asians on that team!!!!!

And you know what also bothers me about that analogy? That athletic people can’t be smart. It’s like saying smart people can’t be beautiful. Or that beautiful people can’t be good at math.

TJ kids can be both smart and athletic. Blacks can be good at math and Asians can be good at sports. There are also Asians that are stupid jocks too. Or actors. Or artists.

It’s so freaking racist- and if that poster is Asian- dude. Do yourself a favor and maybe not think every Asian can’t be good at sports. People can be both.

And for the record: Asian here. People assumed I was smart and gifted because I was Asian but were always surprised at how funny or caring I am. And it is that same implicit racism that I am trying to point out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Chinese and Indian weekend school entrepreneurs sold immigrant families on the idea of TJ for social mobility. The way to do that was offer more advanced math classes to only those communities which would give them a leg up in admissions. Hence the math jump came from those Asian students. And it worked, they got in. It is deeply unhealthy for most of those students.

Stop spreading the BS. Tutoring centers will happily take your kids and your money. But, it's not their responsibility that your kids can't keep up with the class. There is no advanced math courses offered only to Chinese and Indian students. More like your kids are not ready for those courses.

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Anonymous wrote:The sports “analogy” is so racist for every race that I can only assume that the person who posted it is just really stupid or really hates themselves.

It assumes that Asians cannot play sports. And I assure you, looking at what is going on in the MLB that is not the case. And looking at the girls basketball team at TJ- there are Asians on that team!!!!!

And you know what also bothers me about that analogy? That athletic people can’t be smart. It’s like saying smart people can’t be beautiful. Or that beautiful people can’t be good at math.

TJ kids can be both smart and athletic. Blacks can be good at math and Asians can be good at sports. There are also Asians that are stupid jocks too. Or actors. Or artists.

It’s so freaking racist- and if that poster is Asian- dude. Do yourself a favor and maybe not think every Asian can’t be good at sports. People can be both.

And for the record: Asian here. People assumed I was smart and gifted because I was Asian but were always surprised at how funny or caring I am. And it is that same implicit racism that I am trying to point out.

The argument isn't "Asians aren't good at sports", it's "even though Asians are good at sports, they're extremely, ridiculously underrepresented in certain sports, yet none of the people who claim to care about racial equity ever complain about it"

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Anonymous wrote:The Chinese and Indian weekend school entrepreneurs sold immigrant families on the idea of TJ for social mobility. The way to do that was offer more advanced math classes to only those communities which would give them a leg up in admissions. Hence the math jump came from those Asian students. And it worked, they got in. It is deeply unhealthy for most of those students.

You are a racist who hates his own race? that issue aside ...
The black families invested all their kids times into sports and went onto dominate not just high school/college basketball and eventually the NBA multibillion dollar business. Is that deeply unhealthy too? The white families invested all their kids times into ice hockey and baseball and went onto dominate in those sports in not just high school/college but also the NHL and MLB trillion dollar industry. Is that deeply unhealthy too? Fake equity warriors too afraid to call out lack of diversity here?

Sports/basketball

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Anonymous wrote:The Chinese and Indian weekend school entrepreneurs sold immigrant families on the idea of TJ for social mobility. The way to do that was offer more advanced math classes to only those communities which would give them a leg up in admissions. Hence the math jump came from those Asian students. And it worked, they got in. It is deeply unhealthy for most of those students.

You are a racist who hates his own race? that issue aside ...
The black families invested all their kids times into sports and went onto dominate not just high school/college basketball and eventually the NBA multibillion dollar business. Is that deeply unhealthy too? The white families invested all their kids times into ice hockey and baseball and went onto dominate in those sports in not just high school/college but also the NHL and MLB trillion dollar industry. Is that deeply unhealthy too? Fake equity warriors too afraid to call out lack of diversity here?

Sports/basketball

I'm african american and I invest my money into my child’s basketball activities. Why should I care what others think?

[Anonymous]

I am Asian and I play piano so my kid also play piano. His teacher is East European, and when we go to festivals, 90% of the kids are East Asian. I don't know why it is, but other ethnic groups are free to join us in piano!

Nobody sold me on any enrichment programs, I can think for myself, thank you very much.

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Anonymous wrote:I see six math courses from Math 1 to 6. If doing algebra 1 in 8th, with what Math do they start at TJ?

Start with TJ Math 1, which is geometry. Compared to base school, TJ geometry is much more rigorous, meaning more homework and difficult tests.

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Anonymous wrote:The Chinese and Indian weekend school entrepreneurs sold immigrant families on the idea of TJ for social mobility. The way to do that was offer more advanced math classes to only those communities which would give them a leg up in admissions. Hence the math jump came from those Asian students. And it worked, they got in. It is deeply unhealthy for most of those students.

WTF you talking about? There is absolutely nothing abnormal about geometry in 8th grade. It's advanced for the USA but math here is just slower than it is in other countries.

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Anonymous wrote:The Chinese and Indian weekend school entrepreneurs sold immigrant families on the idea of TJ for social mobility. The way to do that was offer more advanced math classes to only those communities which would give them a leg up in admissions. Hence the math jump came from those Asian students. And it worked, they got in. It is deeply unhealthy for most of those students.

You are a racist who hates his own race? that issue aside ...
The black families invested all their kids times into sports and went onto dominate not just high school/college basketball and eventually the NBA multibillion dollar business. Is that deeply unhealthy too? The white families invested all their kids times into ice hockey and baseball and went onto dominate in those sports in not just high school/college but also the NHL and MLB trillion dollar industry. Is that deeply unhealthy too? Fake equity warriors too afraid to call out lack of diversity here?

Sports/basketball

I'm african american and I invest my money into my child’s basketball activities. Why should I care what others think?

I dont think you should care nor should another parent interested in investing in their child's academics. Preparation is required to succeed in basketball as well as in math. Both take resources - time, money, and most importantly student effort.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a way to determine if DC is ready for TJ Math? does TJ provide an assessment or self evaluation tool that DC can use to decide if they are ready for TJ Math?

Do they get A's in math consistently and view getting them as pretty simple to do? If so, they have a good shot at doing well in TJ math. It's for kids who get math quickly and don't tend to struggle with most math concepts

Is there a online timed test that DC can take to determine their math readiness for TJ? It sounds like A in middle school math is not a reliable indicator.

DP. I would say with retakes and with SBG that grades don't really mean anything, positive or negative. Do you know your DC? I know that one of mine is good at math and the other one isn't. Their grades don't have much to do with it.

Sure, I know my DC. But if neither parents have math/science background, is there a way to determine if DC's math level is sufficient to be successful at TJ? There is plenty discussion here about how TJ kids struggle with mental stress, lack of sleep, play constant catch-up trying to get out of Cs & Ds, etc. If DC is not ready to do regular (not honors/advanced) TJ math with ease, it doesnt make sense to put them through the stress and convince them it's ok to be at the bottom of the class.

Yes it’s more stress and work but constant lack of sleep and Cs/Ds haven’t been DC’s experience so far. She is doing the typical track there (started with RS and Math3 in 9th) not the extra advanced one though so maybe that plays a role?

DC in same classes, no extra or advanced. Can you suggest a TJ Math 3 tutor? Dont want to wait until last few weeks of the semester, like last time, and struggle to find a tutor who knew RS1 specific content

How did your child get in if they struggle with Math 3? Serious question because it makes no sense that they would struggle.

They likely are bringing other holistic aspects, you know the 21st Century Skills:
Collaborator
Communicator
Creative and Critical Thinker
Ethical/Global Citizen
Goal-Directed & Resilient Individual
Innovator
Leader
Problem Solver

If child is struggling with math 3, it their and their parents' problem. Moreover if they just accept the C or D, it wouldn't be a problem. It shouldn't be a academic rat race for As and Bs.

I thought TJ had a minimum GPA that if you fell below it, you would be sent back to your base high school. A C or D is not acceptable.

C is not all that uncommon especially in junior year. as long as GPA is above 3.0, it's safe zone.