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Anonymous
That's a lot of guessing and assuming. Her message was clear. She and some of the siblings identify as LGBTQ+ and Collin has made hateful comments and been violent. If there's not a good look its for Collin. Has he denied it yet? Maybe that's who he is. Not a good look for him or his supporters. |
Anonymous
Hannah is the only sibling who has been in the same room as him since he was 11. It seems like there are a lot of assumptions all around. |
Anonymous
Well said. |
Anonymous
They haven’t been around him since he was 11. I’m not sure what the hateful comments are supposedly, but they don’t justify retroactively institutionalizing your kid at 11-15 for no good reason. |
Anonymous
Where is that “clear”? This victim-narrative in general, on that topic, has become quite old. |
Anonymous
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“ I will never allow someone who has exhibited hateful and even violent behavior towards others based in their racial identity, gender identity, or religious beliefs to be in my life."
Nowhere does this say it is in reference to her and-or her siblings. It’s just the ubiquitous, generic “I will not tolerate hate except for those public individuals/ ideologies that *I*hate.” |
Anonymous
But they have had no physical contact with him for at least 7 years. I will trust what Hannah says over any of his other siblings, she’s the one who had lived with him post institutionalization. |
Anonymous
Still lots questions, because none of them have seen him since he was 12, and they apparently haven't spoken since he was institutionalized. Is Mady referring to things he said at age 12? That seems a bit extreme. If this is more recent, how was he making the comments and threatening them if they are no contact? And why is Hannah ok with being around Collin if he was so violent to them all? Idk, the timeline is confusing. Also, let's not pretend Mady is perfect. The show is FULL of her beating on her siblings and being mean and hateful to them. Not just when she was little, but also during the later filmings of Kate+8 where she was a pre-teen/teen. She was awful. Also, Jon's ex-girlfriend's kids are Black and one of them is gay. At some point, all of them were living together. Not sure if Collin still has a relationship with the kids, but he definitely does with Colleen. On his graduation IG post, he shouted Colleen out and she commented a very loving message back. Seems odd, if Collin is so racist and hateful, that Colleen would still want a relationship with him. |
Anonymous
SHE LITERALLY SAID AS RECENTLY AS THIS LAST YEAR. You people are ridiculous - it's possible to not see someone and still have them say hateful/threatening things to you. Her entire post was created because people that do not live in her house are sending her death threats because they're eating up this storyline. But how??? How can someone threaten a person who doesn't live in their house???? It's so confusing??!?!?!!! |
Anonymous
I think the more important point is, even if Collin as a child said or did “bad” things, that in no ways justifies how he was treated. I’ve noticed that in all his statements he expresses that he misses his siblings and only criticizes Kate. But Mady, instead of actually addressing the claims he made about Kate, attacks him for something totally different (his own behavior). Basically she is justifying Kate’s ostracization of him based on this supposedly bad behavior (which never added up to requiring institutionalization even if everything she says is true). There is ample evidence that Kate was a harsh authoritarian parent and that she treated Collin in a way that is counter to any advice a competent therapist would give. There is zero evidence that Collin engaged in extreme behaviors that justified her conduct. Don’t you think TLC would have jumped all over that? |
Anonymous
Nobody is pretending anyone is perfect. But Mady made some pretty damning allegations. If they aren't true they why isn't Collin speaking out and threatening to sue? And I think it's clear Mady isn't only talking about race so Colleen's support isn't necessarily relevant. People just seem to want to discount any evidence that challenges their preconceived notion of Kate = evil, Collin = sweet angel. There is a lot we probably don't know and the older the kids get the more we'll find out. |
Anonymous
Mady doesn't have to speak up for her mother. She is addressing how all of this affects her. She is getting threatened and she is defending herself and her decisions. Her mother can speak out on her own behalf. |
Anonymous
They are mother and child - not two equally situated parties. *Many* people on her have acknowledged that Collin likely had challenging behaviors. That doesn’t justify abuse. Unless someone can demonstrate to me that he is seriously dangerous or mentally ill, the facts still show that Kate purposefully got rid of him by sending him to long-term inpatient therapy that was all out of proportion with his condition- and then purposefully isolated him there by refusing to visit and keeping the child’s own father away. We have documented evidence of Kate rejecting and mistreating Collin from a young age. This was the culmination. Whatever supposed insults or fights he engaged in recently with Mady have nothing to do with this history. |
Anonymous
 Try 200-300k.
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Anonymous
She’s getting threatened because like her mother she insists on remaining in the public eye. She’s still young so I don’t blame her. But the way to deal with it with no drama would be to get off the internet with her family’s business. |