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Anonymous wrote:It's not a good look to tell parents (whom you literally know nothing about) who have seen first hand the effects of the pandemic on their children, that the issue is their parenting. And then to patronizingly suggest that they engage in "self-reflection" is just disingenuous.

These are bullying tactics designed to stop people from advocating for what they need. Nobody disagrees that bad parenting exists. Mental health issues are also real. They can be caused by trauma including parental abuse and neglect, but can also be genetic and/or exacerbated by environmental factors such as social isolation. There are larger policy issues here that you are trying to distract from by attacking people. You've been doing it on these boards for a while, just want to say, I see what you're doing, and I don't respect it.

You are 100% correct, but no one cares. The prevailing view is that everything kids lost due to the pandemic was reasonable, entirely justified, and caused no harm. Caring for children who have sustained trauma or been set back is solely a parental responsibility with the help of professionals that are in short supply and/or expensive. No one has any interest in a systemic approach to addressing this trauma because doing so would be contrary to the self-interest of adults making education policy.

No one has said that here. You truly don’t know how to read in between the lines. Before we can even begin a systemic approach, change should have started at home 3 years ago. You’re not doing your job so counselors, social workers, teachers, etc… are finding it impossible to do their job. It does start at home. Start doing work at home. Start being a parent. You’re here complaining, you could be using that time to help your child so that others can also help your child. This isn’t difficult but you absolutely want someone else to blame rather than doing part of this work yourself. This is a partnership. Stop. Blaming. Everyone. Else. Pitch in and do the work. How many times do you need to hear this? It’s not getting through. I’m sure it never will and the only people who will suffer are your own children. Grow up.

You are a bully. You don't know anything about my family or my child yet you spend time writing this because you can't handle responding to what I am actually saying. You should feel Shane at speaking to strangers you don't know like this, you don't because you believe bullying people online is ok. I really hope you don't work in a school.

If your kids are struggling that much, maybe you should take some of this advice?

Wow, you are a piece of work. If you do work in a school it is probably good you are posting here instead of interacting with students.

No, I don't work in the school, but you are the piece of work claiming it is trauma. Trauma from covid is losing a parent or loved one. Your kids have been in school for two years, TWO years in person. If they are still having trauma, something else is going on. How do you not get that? Maybe spend some time with your kids to help with their isolation. How have they been isolating now? Are they in virtual or home schooled? Are they not seeing any friends or outside family? Activities?

My child doesn't have trauma. I never said that she did. You know little to nothing about my family, nor will I share that with you because you are an abusive bully.

So, you are using other kids as a talking point? How am I an abusive bully? Because someone doesn't agree with you that covid=trauma for all kids and continues to be the reason? Trauma is losing a parent to covid. You simply don't get what the term even means and are overusing the words trauma and bully. Mental health is complex. It's not one thing and it's not one size fits all. Covid has been over for most families for two years. Most people are living their lives as normal so you need to understand the real issues with mental health and not just find some random talking points.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a good look to tell parents (whom you literally know nothing about) who have seen first hand the effects of the pandemic on their children, that the issue is their parenting. And then to patronizingly suggest that they engage in "self-reflection" is just disingenuous.

These are bullying tactics designed to stop people from advocating for what they need. Nobody disagrees that bad parenting exists. Mental health issues are also real. They can be caused by trauma including parental abuse and neglect, but can also be genetic and/or exacerbated by environmental factors such as social isolation. There are larger policy issues here that you are trying to distract from by attacking people. You've been doing it on these boards for a while, just want to say, I see what you're doing, and I don't respect it.

You are 100% correct, but no one cares. The prevailing view is that everything kids lost due to the pandemic was reasonable, entirely justified, and caused no harm. Caring for children who have sustained trauma or been set back is solely a parental responsibility with the help of professionals that are in short supply and/or expensive. No one has any interest in a systemic approach to addressing this trauma because doing so would be contrary to the self-interest of adults making education policy.

And, what exactly are you defining as trauma? You realize not everything is trauma. Mine have experienced real trauma and horrific things happening. Your kids being in virtual school isn't trauma.

Explaining the obvious to an idiot here, but not every environmental factor that can contribute to mental health issues is "trauma". Some children really struggle with social isolation, maybe it is not what you would call trauma, but that doesn't mean they aren't truly struggling. Child abuse which was predicted in the spring of 2020 resulting from children lacking adequate care is trauma.

Again, maybe you are the problem. Didn't you spend time with your kids? It's been two years since your kids were in person and just because they were in virtual school didn't mean they couldn't do activities or see friends.

This is NOT trauma.

I'm not sure why you feel compelled to shout "This is NOT trauma" after I said something can not be trauma and still contribute to mental health issues. I'm getting the impression I'm trying to communicate with a broken record.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have some extremely gifted kids who are extremely mentally troubled as well...

I have some not mentally troubled students who are just not as academically gifted...

Guess whose parents actually listen and believe me if I say there is a problem? Not the gifted kids! Oh no-there is NO WAY their child COULD ever....

The problem IS the parenting. So yeah, look in the mirror. A real look. Maybe you AREN'T the problem (and I know many wonderful parents who do everything for their kids) but also, maybe you are. I'd wage, if you're someone reading these comments and getting super defensive, you know, deep down, you are the problem. Maybe you need some help. These remarks aren't meant to be disparaging, we could all use help from time to time.

This nonsense amounts to "I don't like your opinions about virtual learning, therefore you must be a bad parent". Sometimes, you will encounter people who you disagree with, and those individuals are mostly not terrible people. Recognizing that is part of being a mature adult.

Virtual ended two years ago. Its a moot point except for the families still in virtual and virtual looks very different now. Blaming virtual for mental health issues makes no sense. It's just not that simple.

As a parent, you need to help your child and get them help. The school system is not equipped to deal with it or many special needs. While it might be nice if they did, they don't. You need to get your child to a therapist and or/psychiatrist and have them evaluated if needed by a psychologist. You can ask the school through an IEP but the school usually does superficial reports and not necessarily what the child needs. Some kids will need to get more intensive treatment or crisis treatment as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a good look to tell parents (whom you literally know nothing about) who have seen first hand the effects of the pandemic on their children, that the issue is their parenting. And then to patronizingly suggest that they engage in "self-reflection" is just disingenuous.

These are bullying tactics designed to stop people from advocating for what they need. Nobody disagrees that bad parenting exists. Mental health issues are also real. They can be caused by trauma including parental abuse and neglect, but can also be genetic and/or exacerbated by environmental factors such as social isolation. There are larger policy issues here that you are trying to distract from by attacking people. You've been doing it on these boards for a while, just want to say, I see what you're doing, and I don't respect it.

You are 100% correct, but no one cares. The prevailing view is that everything kids lost due to the pandemic was reasonable, entirely justified, and caused no harm. Caring for children who have sustained trauma or been set back is solely a parental responsibility with the help of professionals that are in short supply and/or expensive. No one has any interest in a systemic approach to addressing this trauma because doing so would be contrary to the self-interest of adults making education policy.

And, what exactly are you defining as trauma? You realize not everything is trauma. Mine have experienced real trauma and horrific things happening. Your kids being in virtual school isn't trauma.

Explaining the obvious to an idiot here, but not every environmental factor that can contribute to mental health issues is "trauma". Some children really struggle with social isolation, maybe it is not what you would call trauma, but that doesn't mean they aren't truly struggling. Child abuse which was predicted in the spring of 2020 resulting from children lacking adequate care is trauma.

Again, maybe you are the problem. Didn't you spend time with your kids? It's been two years since your kids were in person and just because they were in virtual school didn't mean they couldn't do activities or see friends.

This is NOT trauma.

I'm not sure why you feel compelled to shout "This is NOT trauma" after I said something can not be trauma and still contribute to mental health issues. I'm getting the impression I'm trying to communicate with a broken record.

The discussion is someone screaming about covid=trauma. It's not the factor for mental illness. Covid plays no role in most people's lives. Very few still even mask.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a good look to tell parents (whom you literally know nothing about) who have seen first hand the effects of the pandemic on their children, that the issue is their parenting. And then to patronizingly suggest that they engage in "self-reflection" is just disingenuous.

These are bullying tactics designed to stop people from advocating for what they need. Nobody disagrees that bad parenting exists. Mental health issues are also real. They can be caused by trauma including parental abuse and neglect, but can also be genetic and/or exacerbated by environmental factors such as social isolation. There are larger policy issues here that you are trying to distract from by attacking people. You've been doing it on these boards for a while, just want to say, I see what you're doing, and I don't respect it.

You are 100% correct, but no one cares. The prevailing view is that everything kids lost due to the pandemic was reasonable, entirely justified, and caused no harm. Caring for children who have sustained trauma or been set back is solely a parental responsibility with the help of professionals that are in short supply and/or expensive. No one has any interest in a systemic approach to addressing this trauma because doing so would be contrary to the self-interest of adults making education policy.

No one has said that here. You truly don’t know how to read in between the lines. Before we can even begin a systemic approach, change should have started at home 3 years ago. You’re not doing your job so counselors, social workers, teachers, etc… are finding it impossible to do their job. It does start at home. Start doing work at home. Start being a parent. You’re here complaining, you could be using that time to help your child so that others can also help your child. This isn’t difficult but you absolutely want someone else to blame rather than doing part of this work yourself. This is a partnership. Stop. Blaming. Everyone. Else. Pitch in and do the work. How many times do you need to hear this? It’s not getting through. I’m sure it never will and the only people who will suffer are your own children. Grow up.

You are a bully. You don't know anything about my family or my child yet you spend time writing this because you can't handle responding to what I am actually saying. You should feel Shane at speaking to strangers you don't know like this, you don't because you believe bullying people online is ok. I really hope you don't work in a school.

If your kids are struggling that much, maybe you should take some of this advice?

Wow, you are a piece of work. If you do work in a school it is probably good you are posting here instead of interacting with students.

No, I don't work in the school, but you are the piece of work claiming it is trauma. Trauma from covid is losing a parent or loved one. Your kids have been in school for two years, TWO years in person. If they are still having trauma, something else is going on. How do you not get that? Maybe spend some time with your kids to help with their isolation. How have they been isolating now? Are they in virtual or home schooled? Are they not seeing any friends or outside family? Activities?

My child doesn't have trauma. I never said that she did. You know little to nothing about my family, nor will I share that with you because you are an abusive bully.

So, you are using other kids as a talking point? How am I an abusive bully? Because someone doesn't agree with you that covid=trauma for all kids and continues to be the reason? Trauma is losing a parent to covid. You simply don't get what the term even means and are overusing the words trauma and bully. Mental health is complex. It's not one thing and it's not one size fits all. Covid has been over for most families for two years. Most people are living their lives as normal so you need to understand the real issues with mental health and not just find some random talking points.

I think this person is using chat GPT to troll people on DCUM. It's hard to 8nagne a real person would respond like this.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a good look to tell parents (whom you literally know nothing about) who have seen first hand the effects of the pandemic on their children, that the issue is their parenting. And then to patronizingly suggest that they engage in "self-reflection" is just disingenuous.

These are bullying tactics designed to stop people from advocating for what they need. Nobody disagrees that bad parenting exists. Mental health issues are also real. They can be caused by trauma including parental abuse and neglect, but can also be genetic and/or exacerbated by environmental factors such as social isolation. There are larger policy issues here that you are trying to distract from by attacking people. You've been doing it on these boards for a while, just want to say, I see what you're doing, and I don't respect it.

You are 100% correct, but no one cares. The prevailing view is that everything kids lost due to the pandemic was reasonable, entirely justified, and caused no harm. Caring for children who have sustained trauma or been set back is solely a parental responsibility with the help of professionals that are in short supply and/or expensive. No one has any interest in a systemic approach to addressing this trauma because doing so would be contrary to the self-interest of adults making education policy.

And, what exactly are you defining as trauma? You realize not everything is trauma. Mine have experienced real trauma and horrific things happening. Your kids being in virtual school isn't trauma.

Explaining the obvious to an idiot here, but not every environmental factor that can contribute to mental health issues is "trauma". Some children really struggle with social isolation, maybe it is not what you would call trauma, but that doesn't mean they aren't truly struggling. Child abuse which was predicted in the spring of 2020 resulting from children lacking adequate care is trauma.

Again, maybe you are the problem. Didn't you spend time with your kids? It's been two years since your kids were in person and just because they were in virtual school didn't mean they couldn't do activities or see friends.

This is NOT trauma.

I'm not sure why you feel compelled to shout "This is NOT trauma" after I said something can not be trauma and still contribute to mental health issues. I'm getting the impression I'm trying to communicate with a broken record.

The discussion is someone screaming about covid=trauma. It's not the factor for mental illness. Covid plays no role in most people's lives. Very few still even mask.

Who said that?

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Anonymous wrote:I have some extremely gifted kids who are extremely mentally troubled as well...

I have some not mentally troubled students who are just not as academically gifted...

Guess whose parents actually listen and believe me if I say there is a problem? Not the gifted kids! Oh no-there is NO WAY their child COULD ever....

The problem IS the parenting. So yeah, look in the mirror. A real look. Maybe you AREN'T the problem (and I know many wonderful parents who do everything for their kids) but also, maybe you are. I'd wage, if you're someone reading these comments and getting super defensive, you know, deep down, you are the problem. Maybe you need some help. These remarks aren't meant to be disparaging, we could all use help from time to time.

This nonsense amounts to "I don't like your opinions about virtual learning, therefore you must be a bad parent". Sometimes, you will encounter people who you disagree with, and those individuals are mostly not terrible people. Recognizing that is part of being a mature adult.

Virtual ended two years ago. Its a moot point except for the families still in virtual and virtual looks very different now. Blaming virtual for mental health issues makes no sense. It's just not that simple.

As a parent, you need to help your child and get them help. The school system is not equipped to deal with it or many special needs. While it might be nice if they did, they don't. You need to get your child to a therapist and or/psychiatrist and have them evaluated if needed by a psychologist. You can ask the school through an IEP but the school usually does superficial reports and not necessarily what the child needs. Some kids will need to get more intensive treatment or crisis treatment as well.

Thanks for this advice which is not remotely applicable to my situation. I'm sure it will help someone though.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like admin is concerned about the huge number of below grade level students and some are trying to solve this problem by micromanaging.

Of course no one likes to be judged by someone who is ignorant of the difficult dynamic that exists in some classrooms. For example, some students really do not belong in the same classroom as neurotypical students—it is very disruptive to learning (and raising test scores) and not fair for anybody.

Admin would do better fixing structural problems like these than to annoy staff with unhelpful advice.

Exactly this. Not everyone needs to be in "advanced" whatever. Put students with similar-level skill-set, and teach to differentiated medians. Right now, you have 1/3 kids bored out of their minds (and possibly being disruptive), 1/3 struggling because they never understood the basics, and 1/3 are actually getting what they need. And of course the kids with LD who shouldn't be there at all, but are forced to be there in the name of equity and inclusion.

I volunteer in my (middle schooler's) math class and I swear to G-D the teacher spends 20 mins out of 45 in classroom management. Then of the other remaining 25 mins she spends half reviewing basic concepts that the kids really should know (but they don't because 1) everyone is cohorted to 'advanced'; 2) mcps is allergic to memorizing math facts). I feel so terrible for her. And she's a good teacher (with currently 3 parent volunteers in the roster who are an engineer, mathematician, and computer programmer). We are a low FARMs school with good test scores. If it's this hard for us, I don't know how under-resourced areas without involved parents are even treading water.

Which MCPS middle school allows regular parent volunteers for instruction in a math class?

Um...almost every single one? Why do you keep posting when you're soooo woefully uniformed on EVERY. SINGLE. POINT.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like admin is concerned about the huge number of below grade level students and some are trying to solve this problem by micromanaging.

Of course no one likes to be judged by someone who is ignorant of the difficult dynamic that exists in some classrooms. For example, some students really do not belong in the same classroom as neurotypical students—it is very disruptive to learning (and raising test scores) and not fair for anybody.

Admin would do better fixing structural problems like these than to annoy staff with unhelpful advice.

Exactly this. Not everyone needs to be in "advanced" whatever. Put students with similar-level skill-set, and teach to differentiated medians. Right now, you have 1/3 kids bored out of their minds (and possibly being disruptive), 1/3 struggling because they never understood the basics, and 1/3 are actually getting what they need. And of course the kids with LD who shouldn't be there at all, but are forced to be there in the name of equity and inclusion.

I volunteer in my (middle schooler's) math class and I swear to G-D the teacher spends 20 mins out of 45 in classroom management. Then of the other remaining 25 mins she spends half reviewing basic concepts that the kids really should know (but they don't because 1) everyone is cohorted to 'advanced'; 2) mcps is allergic to memorizing math facts). I feel so terrible for her. And she's a good teacher (with currently 3 parent volunteers in the roster who are an engineer, mathematician, and computer programmer). We are a low FARMs school with good test scores. If it's this hard for us, I don't know how under-resourced areas without involved parents are even treading water.

Which MCPS middle school allows regular parent volunteers for instruction in a math class?

Um...almost every single one? Why do you keep posting when you're soooo woefully uniformed on EVERY. SINGLE. POINT.

Before, during and after covid, our ES nor MS would allow us to volunteer. I would have done it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I have some extremely gifted kids who are extremely mentally troubled as well...

I have some not mentally troubled students who are just not as academically gifted...

Guess whose parents actually listen and believe me if I say there is a problem? Not the gifted kids! Oh no-there is NO WAY their child COULD ever....

The problem IS the parenting. So yeah, look in the mirror. A real look. Maybe you AREN'T the problem (and I know many wonderful parents who do everything for their kids) but also, maybe you are. I'd wage, if you're someone reading these comments and getting super defensive, you know, deep down, you are the problem. Maybe you need some help. These remarks aren't meant to be disparaging, we could all use help from time to time.

This nonsense amounts to "I don't like your opinions about virtual learning, therefore you must be a bad parent". Sometimes, you will encounter people who you disagree with, and those individuals are mostly not terrible people. Recognizing that is part of being a mature adult.

Virtual ended two years ago. Its a moot point except for the families still in virtual and virtual looks very different now. Blaming virtual for mental health issues makes no sense. It's just not that simple.

As a parent, you need to help your child and get them help. The school system is not equipped to deal with it or many special needs. While it might be nice if they did, they don't. You need to get your child to a therapist and or/psychiatrist and have them evaluated if needed by a psychologist. You can ask the school through an IEP but the school usually does superficial reports and not necessarily what the child needs. Some kids will need to get more intensive treatment or crisis treatment as well.

Thanks for this advice which is not remotely applicable to my situation. I'm sure it will help someone though.

Then if its not the situation, why are you going on about covid trauma?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have some extremely gifted kids who are extremely mentally troubled as well...

I have some not mentally troubled students who are just not as academically gifted...

Guess whose parents actually listen and believe me if I say there is a problem? Not the gifted kids! Oh no-there is NO WAY their child COULD ever....

The problem IS the parenting. So yeah, look in the mirror. A real look. Maybe you AREN'T the problem (and I know many wonderful parents who do everything for their kids) but also, maybe you are. I'd wage, if you're someone reading these comments and getting super defensive, you know, deep down, you are the problem. Maybe you need some help. These remarks aren't meant to be disparaging, we could all use help from time to time.

This nonsense amounts to "I don't like your opinions about virtual learning, therefore you must be a bad parent". Sometimes, you will encounter people who you disagree with, and those individuals are mostly not terrible people. Recognizing that is part of being a mature adult.

Lol where in this post was virtual learning even mentioned? I don't think you need to continue to frequent this thread. You are embarrassing yourself, you apparently cannot read, and you're just full of hot air. Turn off your computer and take spend some time with your traumatized (you said it, not me) kids. This might be why there is a problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like admin is concerned about the huge number of below grade level students and some are trying to solve this problem by micromanaging.

Of course no one likes to be judged by someone who is ignorant of the difficult dynamic that exists in some classrooms. For example, some students really do not belong in the same classroom as neurotypical students—it is very disruptive to learning (and raising test scores) and not fair for anybody.

Admin would do better fixing structural problems like these than to annoy staff with unhelpful advice.

Exactly this. Not everyone needs to be in "advanced" whatever. Put students with similar-level skill-set, and teach to differentiated medians. Right now, you have 1/3 kids bored out of their minds (and possibly being disruptive), 1/3 struggling because they never understood the basics, and 1/3 are actually getting what they need. And of course the kids with LD who shouldn't be there at all, but are forced to be there in the name of equity and inclusion.

I volunteer in my (middle schooler's) math class and I swear to G-D the teacher spends 20 mins out of 45 in classroom management. Then of the other remaining 25 mins she spends half reviewing basic concepts that the kids really should know (but they don't because 1) everyone is cohorted to 'advanced'; 2) mcps is allergic to memorizing math facts). I feel so terrible for her. And she's a good teacher (with currently 3 parent volunteers in the roster who are an engineer, mathematician, and computer programmer). We are a low FARMs school with good test scores. If it's this hard for us, I don't know how under-resourced areas without involved parents are even treading water.

Which MCPS middle school allows regular parent volunteers for instruction in a math class?

Um...almost every single one? Why do you keep posting when you're soooo woefully uniformed on EVERY. SINGLE. POINT.

Before, during and after covid, our ES nor MS would allow us to volunteer. I would have done it.

And...we are well past COVID. I think everyone in this county actually knows that EXCEPT you. Time to move on. Maybe read the emails from your school. They probably asked for volunteers in August. Le sigh. You....are truly something. I hope you're just a troll because otherwise.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like admin is concerned about the huge number of below grade level students and some are trying to solve this problem by micromanaging.

Of course no one likes to be judged by someone who is ignorant of the difficult dynamic that exists in some classrooms. For example, some students really do not belong in the same classroom as neurotypical students—it is very disruptive to learning (and raising test scores) and not fair for anybody.

Admin would do better fixing structural problems like these than to annoy staff with unhelpful advice.

Exactly this. Not everyone needs to be in "advanced" whatever. Put students with similar-level skill-set, and teach to differentiated medians. Right now, you have 1/3 kids bored out of their minds (and possibly being disruptive), 1/3 struggling because they never understood the basics, and 1/3 are actually getting what they need. And of course the kids with LD who shouldn't be there at all, but are forced to be there in the name of equity and inclusion.

I volunteer in my (middle schooler's) math class and I swear to G-D the teacher spends 20 mins out of 45 in classroom management. Then of the other remaining 25 mins she spends half reviewing basic concepts that the kids really should know (but they don't because 1) everyone is cohorted to 'advanced'; 2) mcps is allergic to memorizing math facts). I feel so terrible for her. And she's a good teacher (with currently 3 parent volunteers in the roster who are an engineer, mathematician, and computer programmer). We are a low FARMs school with good test scores. If it's this hard for us, I don't know how under-resourced areas without involved parents are even treading water.

Which MCPS middle school allows regular parent volunteers for instruction in a math class?

Um...almost every single one? Why do you keep posting when you're soooo woefully uniformed on EVERY. SINGLE. POINT.

Before, during and after covid, our ES nor MS would allow us to volunteer. I would have done it.

And...we are well past COVID. I think everyone in this county actually knows that EXCEPT you. Time to move on. Maybe read the emails from your school. They probably asked for volunteers in August. Le sigh. You....are truly something. I hope you're just a troll because otherwise.....

I do read the emails and go to the meetings. And, before and after covid, it was always a no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like admin is concerned about the huge number of below grade level students and some are trying to solve this problem by micromanaging.

Of course no one likes to be judged by someone who is ignorant of the difficult dynamic that exists in some classrooms. For example, some students really do not belong in the same classroom as neurotypical students—it is very disruptive to learning (and raising test scores) and not fair for anybody.

Admin would do better fixing structural problems like these than to annoy staff with unhelpful advice.

Exactly this. Not everyone needs to be in "advanced" whatever. Put students with similar-level skill-set, and teach to differentiated medians. Right now, you have 1/3 kids bored out of their minds (and possibly being disruptive), 1/3 struggling because they never understood the basics, and 1/3 are actually getting what they need. And of course the kids with LD who shouldn't be there at all, but are forced to be there in the name of equity and inclusion.

I volunteer in my (middle schooler's) math class and I swear to G-D the teacher spends 20 mins out of 45 in classroom management. Then of the other remaining 25 mins she spends half reviewing basic concepts that the kids really should know (but they don't because 1) everyone is cohorted to 'advanced'; 2) mcps is allergic to memorizing math facts). I feel so terrible for her. And she's a good teacher (with currently 3 parent volunteers in the roster who are an engineer, mathematician, and computer programmer). We are a low FARMs school with good test scores. If it's this hard for us, I don't know how under-resourced areas without involved parents are even treading water.

Which MCPS middle school allows regular parent volunteers for instruction in a math class?

Um...almost every single one? Why do you keep posting when you're soooo woefully uniformed on EVERY. SINGLE. POINT.

Before, during and after covid, our ES nor MS would allow us to volunteer. I would have done it.

And...we are well past COVID. I think everyone in this county actually knows that EXCEPT you. Time to move on. Maybe read the emails from your school. They probably asked for volunteers in August. Le sigh. You....are truly something. I hope you're just a troll because otherwise.....

I do read the emails and go to the meetings. And, before and after covid, it was always a no.

Are you just lying at this point? Are you even a parent? You have definitely picked a bizarre hill to die on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like admin is concerned about the huge number of below grade level students and some are trying to solve this problem by micromanaging.

Of course no one likes to be judged by someone who is ignorant of the difficult dynamic that exists in some classrooms. For example, some students really do not belong in the same classroom as neurotypical students—it is very disruptive to learning (and raising test scores) and not fair for anybody.

Admin would do better fixing structural problems like these than to annoy staff with unhelpful advice.

Exactly this. Not everyone needs to be in "advanced" whatever. Put students with similar-level skill-set, and teach to differentiated medians. Right now, you have 1/3 kids bored out of their minds (and possibly being disruptive), 1/3 struggling because they never understood the basics, and 1/3 are actually getting what they need. And of course the kids with LD who shouldn't be there at all, but are forced to be there in the name of equity and inclusion.

I volunteer in my (middle schooler's) math class and I swear to G-D the teacher spends 20 mins out of 45 in classroom management. Then of the other remaining 25 mins she spends half reviewing basic concepts that the kids really should know (but they don't because 1) everyone is cohorted to 'advanced'; 2) mcps is allergic to memorizing math facts). I feel so terrible for her. And she's a good teacher (with currently 3 parent volunteers in the roster who are an engineer, mathematician, and computer programmer). We are a low FARMs school with good test scores. If it's this hard for us, I don't know how under-resourced areas without involved parents are even treading water.

Which MCPS middle school allows regular parent volunteers for instruction in a math class?

Um...almost every single one? Why do you keep posting when you're soooo woefully uniformed on EVERY. SINGLE. POINT.

Before, during and after covid, our ES nor MS would allow us to volunteer. I would have done it.

And...we are well past COVID. I think everyone in this county actually knows that EXCEPT you. Time to move on. Maybe read the emails from your school. They probably asked for volunteers in August. Le sigh. You....are truly something. I hope you're just a troll because otherwise.....

I do read the emails and go to the meetings. And, before and after covid, it was always a no.

Are you just lying at this point? Are you even a parent? You have definitely picked a bizarre hill to die on.

I’m a different person and I’ve never heard of parents volunteering in classes in our ES or MS either. At our ES, there was a bit uproar by parents and they finally agreed to let parents volunteer at recess if they did the McPS background check. Then I think no one actually ever did it. Our MS allows parent volunteers to supervise lunch but I’ve never heard of them in classrooms and I’m sure my kids would tell me because we talk about classroom management issues a lot.