Admin needs to back down

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree whole-heartedly with OP. I'm an MCPS teacher and I've never seen morale so low. I don't get the sense administrators are even aware of how close the teachers are to leaving.

Meh. They don’t really care. Don’t have the energy left to care. Most of the admins want to leave, too. They’re too preoccupied with trying to keep their own heads above water to worry about retaining teachers. They secretly wish half of you, particularly all the complaining teachers like the OP of this thread, would leave. You’re screaming into the wind.

Admin here- We cannot afford to have teachers leave. As a whole, administrators need to hear this. I don't want any of my teachers to leave nor do I "secretly" wish they would. Complaining teachers are teachers who care. The ones who don't care usually aren't the teachers you want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish admin would sit in on some of my child's classes and see what's going on. Some teachers need more managing.

Ahh yes, what we need more of. Parents who went to school so they think they can manage classrooms because they were in a school building once too! You're super qualified!

I see what teachers are doing and they do very little teaching. That is why our kids are behind.

Sign up. Come teach! Get these kids where they need to be! Funny part is, admin can't even do this majority of the time. All of their strategies fail whenever they are in a classroom and they walk out red-faced. I'd love to see a random internet keyboard jockey come in and get their kids to grade level. Do it. I dare you. You'd last an hour. If that.

I do my own kids. Do you?

[Anonymous]

Have a sibling that teaches in FCPS and they could have written OP’s post. 30+ years of service to the county and ready to throw in the towel based on the current state of affairs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish admin would sit in on some of my child's classes and see what's going on. Some teachers need more managing.

Ahh yes, what we need more of. Parents who went to school so they think they can manage classrooms because they were in a school building once too! You're super qualified!

I see what teachers are doing and they do very little teaching. That is why our kids are behind.

Mmkay. Enjoy homeschooling!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree whole-heartedly with OP. I'm an MCPS teacher and I've never seen morale so low. I don't get the sense administrators are even aware of how close the teachers are to leaving.

Meh. They don’t really care. Don’t have the energy left to care. Most of the admins want to leave, too. They’re too preoccupied with trying to keep their own heads above water to worry about retaining teachers. [b]They secretly wish half of you, particularly all the complaining teachers like the OP of this thread, would leave.[i] You’re screaming into the wind.

In this job market for teachers, you believe this? HAHAHAHAHAHA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish admin would sit in on some of my child's classes and see what's going on. Some teachers need more managing.

Ahh yes, what we need more of. Parents who went to school so they think they can manage classrooms because they were in a school building once too! You're super qualified!

I see what teachers are doing and they do very little teaching. That is why our kids are behind.

Sign up. Come teach! Get these kids where they need to be! Funny part is, admin can't even do this majority of the time. All of their strategies fail whenever they are in a classroom and they walk out red-faced. I'd love to see a random internet keyboard jockey come in and get their kids to grade level. Do it. I dare you. You'd last an hour. If that.

I do my own kids. Do you?

What exactly do you do? Are you trying to say you teach your own kids? Hopefully not English, as writing clear, concise, and coherent sentences doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

[Anonymous]

I'm a teacher and at my school I think admin are micromanaging the wrong people and missing those that need it.

i have high praise for my own child's K and 1st teacher even with the behavioral kids they have been dealt with (I hear about it from my DC). I feel that admin at her school could be better. They are disorganized, but I do feel they have the kids best interests at heart. I feel that they are dealing with lot of kids with behavior and that sucks up a bit of time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish admin would sit in on some of my child's classes and see what's going on. Some teachers need more managing.

Ahh yes, what we need more of. Parents who went to school so they think they can manage classrooms because they were in a school building once too! You're super qualified!

I see what teachers are doing and they do very little teaching. That is why our kids are behind.

Sign up. Come teach! Get these kids where they need to be! Funny part is, admin can't even do this majority of the time. All of their strategies fail whenever they are in a classroom and they walk out red-faced. I'd love to see a random internet keyboard jockey come in and get their kids to grade level. Do it. I dare you. You'd last an hour. If that.

I do my own kids. Do you?

What exactly do you do? Are you trying to say you teach your own kids? Hopefully not English, as writing clear, concise, and coherent sentences doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Right, that’s the best you can do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish admin would sit in on some of my child's classes and see what's going on. Some teachers need more managing.

Ahh yes, what we need more of. Parents who went to school so they think they can manage classrooms because they were in a school building once too! You're super qualified!

I see what teachers are doing and they do very little teaching. That is why our kids are behind.

Sign up. Come teach! Get these kids where they need to be! Funny part is, admin can't even do this majority of the time. All of their strategies fail whenever they are in a classroom and they walk out red-faced. I'd love to see a random internet keyboard jockey come in and get their kids to grade level. Do it. I dare you. You'd last an hour. If that.

I do my own kids. Do you?

[Anonymous]

It sounds like admin is concerned about the huge number of below grade level students and some are trying to solve this problem by micromanaging.

Of course no one likes to be judged by someone who is ignorant of the difficult dynamic that exists in some classrooms. For example, some students really do not belong in the same classroom as neurotypical students—it is very disruptive to learning (and raising test scores) and not fair for anybody.

Admin would do better fixing structural problems like these than to annoy staff with unhelpful advice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish admin would sit in on some of my child's classes and see what's going on. Some teachers need more managing.

Ahh yes, what we need more of. Parents who went to school so they think they can manage classrooms because they were in a school building once too! You're super qualified!

I see what teachers are doing and they do very little teaching. That is why our kids are behind.

Sign up. Come teach! Get these kids where they need to be! Funny part is, admin can't even do this majority of the time. All of their strategies fail whenever they are in a classroom and they walk out red-faced. I'd love to see a random internet keyboard jockey come in and get their kids to grade level. Do it. I dare you. You'd last an hour. If that.

I do my own kids. Do you?

What exactly do you do? Are you trying to say you teach your own kids? Hopefully not English, as writing clear, concise, and coherent sentences doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Right, that’s the best you can do.

DP- give it up. Kind of pathetic at this point. No one is agreeing with you. Move along. Shouldn't you be doing your kids or something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish admin would sit in on some of my child's classes and see what's going on. Some teachers need more managing.

Ahh yes, what we need more of. Parents who went to school so they think they can manage classrooms because they were in a school building once too! You're super qualified!

I see what teachers are doing and they do very little teaching. That is why our kids are behind.

Sign up. Come teach! Get these kids where they need to be! Funny part is, admin can't even do this majority of the time. All of their strategies fail whenever they are in a classroom and they walk out red-faced. I'd love to see a random internet keyboard jockey come in and get their kids to grade level. Do it. I dare you. You'd last an hour. If that.

I do my own kids. Do you?

What exactly do you do? Are you trying to say you teach your own kids? Hopefully not English, as writing clear, concise, and coherent sentences doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Right, that’s the best you can do.

DP, but your comment made no sense.

[Anonymous]

Current MCPS elem teacher. Behavior is OFF THE CHAINS this year. Behavior issues meaning extreme behavior challenges - multiple classes have exit plans for evacuating the classroom due to a student having a meltdown (tearing everything from walls, hitting other students, throwing chairs and desks, etc.).

In addition, we also have multiple autistic students this year that need a one to one aide and it has not happened. I believe all behavior is a form of communication but those behavior issues make teaching the other students challenging. Students need to be in an environment where they are able to be supported to reach their full potential.

It is difficult to teach when a student is overstimulated and rolling around the floor screaming. Admin does not notice and advises us to continue building relationships (which I agree with but when you have a class of 20 and 4-5 have extreme behavior challenges, it feels very overwhelming). No consequences for disruptive behavior (not talking about the autistic students - totally different issue). We need more paraeducators, and they need to be treated like professionals. The paras at our school are pulled every day to sub. Admin has no clue what it’s like to constantly sub in various classrooms - no sub plans and students that know there are no consequences. We have to collect so much data there leaves little time for teaching (benchmark assessments, Eureka, reading comp checks, DIBELS every two weeks for students not meeting expectation, MAP math and reading tests - not to mention knowing every students 504/IEP accommodations for the assessment). Instead of offering support, admin demands we create parent newsletters every two weeks when we already have a difficult time getting parents to check folders on a weekly basis. Last, we have so many students that have experienced severe trauma (hence the severe behavior issues). Admin is clueless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Current MCPS elem teacher. Behavior is OFF THE CHAINS this year. Behavior issues meaning extreme behavior challenges - multiple classes have exit plans for evacuating the classroom due to a student having a meltdown (tearing everything from walls, hitting other students, throwing chairs and desks, etc.).

In addition, we also have multiple autistic students this year that need a one to one aide and it has not happened. I believe all behavior is a form of communication but those behavior issues make teaching the other students challenging. Students need to be in an environment where they are able to be supported to reach their full potential.

It is difficult to teach when a student is overstimulated and rolling around the floor screaming. Admin does not notice and advises us to continue building relationships (which I agree with but when you have a class of 20 and 4-5 have extreme behavior challenges, it feels very overwhelming). No consequences for disruptive behavior (not talking about the autistic students - totally different issue). We need more paraeducators, and they need to be treated like professionals. The paras at our school are pulled every day to sub. Admin has no clue what it’s like to constantly sub in various classrooms - no sub plans and students that know there are no consequences. We have to collect so much data there leaves little time for teaching (benchmark assessments, Eureka, reading comp checks, DIBELS every two weeks for students not meeting expectation, MAP math and reading tests - not to mention knowing every students 504/IEP accommodations for the assessment). Instead of offering support, admin demands we create parent newsletters every two weeks when we already have a difficult time getting parents to check folders on a weekly basis. Last, we have so many students that have experienced severe trauma (hence the severe behavior issues). Admin is clueless.

+1 This is my school as well.

I watched a teacher leave in tears before school started because she could not handle another day with her class. But instead of 20 kids, she has 30- multiple with extreme behaviors. I have over 20 years of experience and I’ve never witnessed anything like what is happening now. Classrooms aren’t safe. Kids are scared. Teachers are scared. And there are zero consequences for the kids creating the unsafe behavior. We have not been able to have a sub come twice to any3-5 classroom this year. And what does admin do? Tell us that there’s nothing they can do because the kids causing the behaviors are minority students. I just want out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Current MCPS elem teacher. Behavior is OFF THE CHAINS this year. Behavior issues meaning extreme behavior challenges - multiple classes have exit plans for evacuating the classroom due to a student having a meltdown (tearing everything from walls, hitting other students, throwing chairs and desks, etc.).

In addition, we also have multiple autistic students this year that need a one to one aide and it has not happened. I believe all behavior is a form of communication but those behavior issues make teaching the other students challenging. Students need to be in an environment where they are able to be supported to reach their full potential.

It is difficult to teach when a student is overstimulated and rolling around the floor screaming. Admin does not notice and advises us to continue building relationships (which I agree with but when you have a class of 20 and 4-5 have extreme behavior challenges, it feels very overwhelming). No consequences for disruptive behavior (not talking about the autistic students - totally different issue). We need more paraeducators, and they need to be treated like professionals. The paras at our school are pulled every day to sub. Admin has no clue what it’s like to constantly sub in various classrooms - no sub plans and students that know there are no consequences. We have to collect so much data there leaves little time for teaching (benchmark assessments, Eureka, reading comp checks, DIBELS every two weeks for students not meeting expectation, MAP math and reading tests - not to mention knowing every students 504/IEP accommodations for the assessment). Instead of offering support, admin demands we create parent newsletters every two weeks when we already have a difficult time getting parents to check folders on a weekly basis. Last, we have so many students that have experienced severe trauma (hence the severe behavior issues). Admin is clueless.

+1 This is my school as well.

I watched a teacher leave in tears before school started because she could not handle another day with her class. But instead of 20 kids, she has 30- multiple with extreme behaviors. I have over 20 years of experience and I’ve never witnessed anything like what is happening now. Classrooms aren’t safe. Kids are scared. Teachers are scared. And there are zero consequences for the kids creating the unsafe behavior. We have not been able to have a sub come twice to any3-5 classroom this year. And what does admin do? Tell us that there’s nothing they can do because the kids causing the behaviors are minority students. I just want out.

Wow. Another MCPS E.S. teacher and we are experiencing the same issue - especially regarding the sub issue, except at our school subs haven’t returned for k-5 classes along with refusing to return to one first grade and one K classroom. Teachers with 15+ years experience are crying and having panic attacks. We are not okay. The students are not okay. Our schools are not okay. Yet the message we get from McKnight is rainbows and unicorns, and the message we get from admin is if you don’t like it, then find another school (direct quote). Mmmkkkk buddy. Way to inspire morale.