Science says: never get rid of AAP

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Anonymous wrote:This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.

Anyone who wants their kid in AAP with a few $$$ can make that happen. I don't see the problem.

It wasn't that bad getting our kid into AAP with the private tests and appeals, but TJ takes a lot more prep classes and $$$.

Some on here wants to keep that a secret.

What secret? AAP has an appeals process in which the Committee looks at other material, like WISC test results, to assess whether the original decision was the right one or not. Some students are admitted on appeal; some aren't.

After your kid is rejected, all you need to do is get some quack to readminister the WISC and then appeal, and Bob's your uncle.

So true! I mean if you somehow fail on appeal, you must've hired the wrong "expert".

Science told me that AAP is a sham for rich folks to segregate their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.

Anyone who wants their kid in AAP with a few $$$ can make that happen. I don't see the problem.

It wasn't that bad getting our kid into AAP with the private tests and appeals, but TJ takes a lot more prep classes and $$$.

Some on here wants to keep that a secret.

What secret? AAP has an appeals process in which the Committee looks at other material, like WISC test results, to assess whether the original decision was the right one or not. Some students are admitted on appeal; some aren't.

After your kid is rejected, all you need to do is get some quack to readminister the WISC and then appeal, and Bob's your uncle.

So true! I mean if you somehow fail on appeal, you must've hired the wrong "expert".

Science told me that AAP is a sham for rich folks to segregate their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.

Anyone who wants their kid in AAP with a few $$$ can make that happen. I don't see the problem.

It wasn't that bad getting our kid into AAP with the private tests and appeals, but TJ takes a lot more prep classes and $$$.

Some on here wants to keep that a secret.

What secret? AAP has an appeals process in which the Committee looks at other material, like WISC test results, to assess whether the original decision was the right one or not. Some students are admitted on appeal; some aren't.

After your kid is rejected, all you need to do is get some quack to readminister the WISC and then appeal, and Bob's your uncle.

So true! I mean if you somehow fail on appeal, you must've hired the wrong "expert".

Science told me that AAP is a sham for rich folks to segregate their kids.

It's more like staying away from kids with parents like you.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.

Anyone who wants their kid in AAP with a few $$$ can make that happen. I don't see the problem.

It wasn't that bad getting our kid into AAP with the private tests and appeals, but TJ takes a lot more prep classes and $$$.

Some on here wants to keep that a secret.

What secret? AAP has an appeals process in which the Committee looks at other material, like WISC test results, to assess whether the original decision was the right one or not. Some students are admitted on appeal; some aren't.

After your kid is rejected, all you need to do is get some quack to readminister the WISC and then appeal, and Bob's your uncle.

If only that were true, AAP would be a much larger size, especially in high SES areas. Parents of kids who don't get in love to blame it on this myth that we all know is false.

As do the parents who convince themselves that their kid is Stephen Hawking reincarnated and look down on AAP kids who were accepted on appeal as unworthy trash.

This sounds like a school culture problem, not an AAP issue. It has not been my experience at our center school. I have no idea who was admitted first round or appeal. How do you?

Word can get around. Neighbors talk.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.

Anyone who wants their kid in AAP with a few $$$ can make that happen. I don't see the problem.

It wasn't that bad getting our kid into AAP with the private tests and appeals, but TJ takes a lot more prep classes and $$$.

Some on here wants to keep that a secret.

What secret? AAP has an appeals process in which the Committee looks at other material, like WISC test results, to assess whether the original decision was the right one or not. Some students are admitted on appeal; some aren't.

After your kid is rejected, all you need to do is get some quack to readminister the WISC and then appeal, and Bob's your uncle.

If only that were true, AAP would be a much larger size, especially in high SES areas. Parents of kids who don't get in love to blame it on this myth that we all know is false.

As do the parents who convince themselves that their kid is Stephen Hawking reincarnated and look down on AAP kids who were accepted on appeal as unworthy trash.

This sounds like a school culture problem, not an AAP issue. It has not been my experience at our center school. I have no idea who was admitted first round or appeal. How do you?

Word can get around. Neighbors talk.

Then you need better friends and neighbors. It has zip to do with the AAP program and more to do with gossipy adults.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.

Anyone who wants their kid in AAP with a few $$$ can make that happen. I don't see the problem.

It wasn't that bad getting our kid into AAP with the private tests and appeals, but TJ takes a lot more prep classes and $$$.

Some on here wants to keep that a secret.

What secret? AAP has an appeals process in which the Committee looks at other material, like WISC test results, to assess whether the original decision was the right one or not. Some students are admitted on appeal; some aren't.

After your kid is rejected, all you need to do is get some quack to readminister the WISC and then appeal, and Bob's your uncle.

If only that were true, AAP would be a much larger size, especially in high SES areas. Parents of kids who don't get in love to blame it on this myth that we all know is false.

As do the parents who convince themselves that their kid is Stephen Hawking reincarnated and look down on AAP kids who were accepted on appeal as unworthy trash.

This sounds like a school culture problem, not an AAP issue. It has not been my experience at our center school. I have no idea who was admitted first round or appeal. How do you?

Word can get around. Neighbors talk.

Then you need better friends and neighbors. It has zip to do with the AAP program and more to do with gossipy adults.

Gossipy adults is what's wrong with AAP. I think we agree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.

My kid got in and I agree with the PP that the parents really are the worst thing about it. I don't want to destroy it. I also think it's become a program for parents to flee gen ed vs. an actual gifted program.

Definitely fleeing gen ed is one of the top reasons IMO. But can you blame people? If your kid has even half a brain at most of these schools, they will just be put in a corner with a computer while the teacher either tries to control the problem kids or tries to teach the kids who probably should have been held back because they're so far behind everyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.

My kid got in and I agree with the PP that the parents really are the worst thing about it. I don't want to destroy it. I also think it's become a program for parents to flee gen ed vs. an actual gifted program.

Definitely fleeing gen ed is one of the top reasons IMO. But can you blame people? If your kid has even half a brain at most of these schools, they will just be put in a corner with a computer while the teacher either tries to control the problem kids or tries to teach the kids who probably should have been held back because they're so far behind everyone else.

^ this is exactly why they should kill AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.

My kid got in and I agree with the PP that the parents really are the worst thing about it. I don't want to destroy it. I also think it's become a program for parents to flee gen ed vs. an actual gifted program.

Definitely fleeing gen ed is one of the top reasons IMO. But can you blame people? If your kid has even half a brain at most of these schools, they will just be put in a corner with a computer while the teacher either tries to control the problem kids or tries to teach the kids who probably should have been held back because they're so far behind everyone else.

I get it but wonder why they bother with the charade. Just make it an opt-in class for people who are serious about education.

[Anonymous]

^ or god forbid simply start doing grouping again and problem is solved

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.

My kid got in and I agree with the PP that the parents really are the worst thing about it. I don't want to destroy it. I also think it's become a program for parents to flee gen ed vs. an actual gifted program.

Definitely fleeing gen ed is one of the top reasons IMO. But can you blame people? If your kid has even half a brain at most of these schools, they will just be put in a corner with a computer while the teacher either tries to control the problem kids or tries to teach the kids who probably should have been held back because they're so far behind everyone else.

^ this is exactly why they should kill AAP.

How exactly is that going to help? Do you think some magical tiered system will emerge? Nope. Now everyone loses. Congratulations!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.

My kid got in and I agree with the PP that the parents really are the worst thing about it. I don't want to destroy it. I also think it's become a program for parents to flee gen ed vs. an actual gifted program.

Definitely fleeing gen ed is one of the top reasons IMO. But can you blame people? If your kid has even half a brain at most of these schools, they will just be put in a corner with a computer while the teacher either tries to control the problem kids or tries to teach the kids who probably should have been held back because they're so far behind everyone else.

I get it but wonder why they bother with the charade. Just make it an opt-in class for people who are serious about education.

In theory, this would be fine. In practice, teachers would be pressured to slow the classes down so as not to leave behind the kids who don't belong in an accelerated class. Also, the optics would look much worse, since the people not qualifying in the current system but then opting in would largely be white and Asian kids who are at least middle class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.

My kid got in and I agree with the PP that the parents really are the worst thing about it. I don't want to destroy it. I also think it's become a program for parents to flee gen ed vs. an actual gifted program.

Definitely fleeing gen ed is one of the top reasons IMO. But can you blame people? If your kid has even half a brain at most of these schools, they will just be put in a corner with a computer while the teacher either tries to control the problem kids or tries to teach the kids who probably should have been held back because they're so far behind everyone else.

^ this is exactly why they should kill AAP.

How exactly is that going to help? Do you think some magical tiered system will emerge? Nope. Now everyone loses. Congratulations!

Without AAP, there would be no brain drain and “base” school performance would improve across the board.

You can cluster to differentiate for GT and SN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.

My kid got in and I agree with the PP that the parents really are the worst thing about it. I don't want to destroy it. I also think it's become a program for parents to flee gen ed vs. an actual gifted program.

Definitely fleeing gen ed is one of the top reasons IMO. But can you blame people? If your kid has even half a brain at most of these schools, they will just be put in a corner with a computer while the teacher either tries to control the problem kids or tries to teach the kids who probably should have been held back because they're so far behind everyone else.

I get it but wonder why they bother with the charade. Just make it an opt-in class for people who are serious about education.

When my kid was in 2nd, I went to an "All About AAP" meeting in the fall of the year. The AART and VP attended, explaining about the different levels and how to apply.

Lots of parents were there, but I remember the mom of the most holy terror from grade K-2 attended and talked a mile a minute about how her son really needed the program. He didn't get in.

If it were opt in program, the class would be filled with these types of kids with overzealous moms but who could in no way actually handle the workload. In the end, they drag down the class.

A committee / group / whatever that qualifies a student based on independent review works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread confirms yet again that parents the worst thing about AAP.

Correction, the worst thing are the parents whose kids don't get in and then become determined to destroy the program.

My kid got in and I agree with the PP that the parents really are the worst thing about it. I don't want to destroy it. I also think it's become a program for parents to flee gen ed vs. an actual gifted program.

Definitely fleeing gen ed is one of the top reasons IMO. But can you blame people? If your kid has even half a brain at most of these schools, they will just be put in a corner with a computer while the teacher either tries to control the problem kids or tries to teach the kids who probably should have been held back because they're so far behind everyone else.

^ this is exactly why they should kill AAP.

How exactly is that going to help? Do you think some magical tiered system will emerge? Nope. Now everyone loses. Congratulations!

Without AAP, there would be no brain drain and “base” school performance would improve across the board.

You can cluster to differentiate for GT and SN.

Isn't this what Fairfax used to have? It must have changed for a reason.