Thanksgiving with two vegan guests; please help me plan!

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Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.

Why should everyone else suffer?

why is it suffering?

Because no one wants watered-down versions of their favorite foods on a holiday. Seriously, once or twice a year, we should get to indulge in traditional fare with no compromises and no guilt. Just like I don’t want a “diet version” of Thanksgiving, and I don’t want an “alternative meal” for people who don’t like the turkey dinner, I don’t want vegan versions served to everyone. I can’t pronounce the ingredients in vegan “cheese” and vegan “butter,” so no thank you. If you want to eat that stuff, fine. If you want to serve it to your guests, fine. But I’m not eating it and I’m not serving it to the majority of my guests. There are plenty of foods like roast vegetables that are naturally vegan and delicious, and that’s great. But when you start getting into fake processed foods, no thanks.

I think OP’s plan and a few of the suggestions here sound really nice. There’s no need for a host to make extra work for themselves or serve weird food to all the guests just because some of the guests choose to be difficult.

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NP who also agrees with this. I would make a few accommodations for the vegan guests, since they deserve to have something to eat too, but I would not veganize the overall menu for everybody else. As a guest (or a host) who is not vegan, I have no interest in eating veganized versions of indulgent holiday foods - especially things like mashed potatoes, stuffing, pie, etc.

Exactly no one is asking or expecting this (in this thread). We know absolutely nothing about this family other than they are getting together at thanksgiving and two of the potential guests are traveling from out of state and they are vegan. Oh, also op would like to make them feel welcome without changing too much of feel of menu. Which is hospitable. They’re setting aside portions of certain dishes to make vegan, not serving everyone tofu soufflé.

I’m not a vegan and I really don’t understand the pushback. We all can be rigid, but we can also adapt and be gracious. Op has it under control.

DCUM hates vegans almost as much as it hates dogs. I'm surprised no one has yet suggested pepper spraying the vegan guests to really teach them a lesson.

They hate gf people even more. Which is just evil. Imaging not being able to eat gluten and also being hated for it. Some people make life on earth its own version of hell.

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Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.

No do not do this,. I don't want masked potatoes with oatmilk and cashew butter as I don't like either of t hose things.

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Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.

No do not do this,. I don't want masked potatoes with oatmilk and cashew butter as I don't like either of t hose things.

i meant coconut butter!

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Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.

No do not do this,. I don't want masked potatoes with oatmilk and cashew butter as I don't like either of t hose things.

They only plan on making a small portion vegan. It’s ok aunt Wendy.

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Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.

No do not do this,. I don't want masked potatoes with oatmilk and cashew butter as I don't like either of t hose things.

DP

The fact is the majority of vegan interpretations of regular food will taste worse than the originals. We can all appreciate some olive oil roasted veggies and maybe some grains or legumes, but food cooked with animal products taste better for good reason. Unless it’s in the hands of someone like Yotam Ottolenghi, most vegan Thanksgiving variations will be disappointing.

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Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.

Why should everyone else suffer?

why is it suffering?

Because no one wants watered-down versions of their favorite foods on a holiday. Seriously, once or twice a year, we should get to indulge in traditional fare with no compromises and no guilt. Just like I don’t want a “diet version” of Thanksgiving, and I don’t want an “alternative meal” for people who don’t like the turkey dinner, I don’t want vegan versions served to everyone. I can’t pronounce the ingredients in vegan “cheese” and vegan “butter,” so no thank you. If you want to eat that stuff, fine. If you want to serve it to your guests, fine. But I’m not eating it and I’m not serving it to the majority of my guests. There are plenty of foods like roast vegetables that are naturally vegan and delicious, and that’s great. But when you start getting into fake processed foods, no thanks.

I think OP’s plan and a few of the suggestions here sound really nice. There’s no need for a host to make extra work for themselves or serve weird food to all the guests just because some of the guests choose to be difficult.

+1

NP who also agrees with this. I would make a few accommodations for the vegan guests, since they deserve to have something to eat too, but I would not veganize the overall menu for everybody else. As a guest (or a host) who is not vegan, I have no interest in eating veganized versions of indulgent holiday foods - especially things like mashed potatoes, stuffing, pie, etc.

Exactly no one is asking or expecting this (in this thread). We know absolutely nothing about this family other than they are getting together at thanksgiving and two of the potential guests are traveling from out of state and they are vegan. Oh, also op would like to make them feel welcome without changing too much of feel of menu. Which is hospitable. They’re setting aside portions of certain dishes to make vegan, not serving everyone tofu soufflé.

I’m not a vegan and I really don’t understand the pushback. We all can be rigid, but we can also adapt and be gracious. Op has it under control.

DCUM hates vegans almost as much as it hates dogs. I'm surprised no one has yet suggested pepper spraying the vegan guests to really teach them a lesson.

They hate gf people even more. Which is just evil. Imaging not being able to eat gluten and also being hated for it. Some people make life on earth its own version of hell.

Maybe I should tell my law professor, who is a Holocaust survivor, that hell is really having a gluten allergy in 2022.

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Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.

Why should everyone else suffer?

why is it suffering?

Because no one wants watered-down versions of their favorite foods on a holiday. Seriously, once or twice a year, we should get to indulge in traditional fare with no compromises and no guilt. Just like I don’t want a “diet version” of Thanksgiving, and I don’t want an “alternative meal” for people who don’t like the turkey dinner, I don’t want vegan versions served to everyone. I can’t pronounce the ingredients in vegan “cheese” and vegan “butter,” so no thank you. If you want to eat that stuff, fine. If you want to serve it to your guests, fine. But I’m not eating it and I’m not serving it to the majority of my guests. There are plenty of foods like roast vegetables that are naturally vegan and delicious, and that’s great. But when you start getting into fake processed foods, no thanks.

I think OP’s plan and a few of the suggestions here sound really nice. There’s no need for a host to make extra work for themselves or serve weird food to all the guests just because some of the guests choose to be difficult.

+1

NP who also agrees with this. I would make a few accommodations for the vegan guests, since they deserve to have something to eat too, but I would not veganize the overall menu for everybody else. As a guest (or a host) who is not vegan, I have no interest in eating veganized versions of indulgent holiday foods - especially things like mashed potatoes, stuffing, pie, etc.

Exactly no one is asking or expecting this (in this thread). We know absolutely nothing about this family other than they are getting together at thanksgiving and two of the potential guests are traveling from out of state and they are vegan. Oh, also op would like to make them feel welcome without changing too much of feel of menu. Which is hospitable. They’re setting aside portions of certain dishes to make vegan, not serving everyone tofu soufflé.

I’m not a vegan and I really don’t understand the pushback. We all can be rigid, but we can also adapt and be gracious. Op has it under control.

DCUM hates vegans almost as much as it hates dogs. I'm surprised no one has yet suggested pepper spraying the vegan guests to really teach them a lesson.

They hate gf people even more. Which is just evil. Imaging not being able to eat gluten and also being hated for it. Some people make life on earth its own version of hell.

No, I am fine with gluten free because I know some people with celiac disease. Vegans, however, have made a lifestyle choice and, even more unfortunately, that lifestyle choice strongly reflects a mental illness that results in food control. I don't enable that.

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Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.

Why should everyone else suffer?

why is it suffering?

Because no one wants watered-down versions of their favorite foods on a holiday. Seriously, once or twice a year, we should get to indulge in traditional fare with no compromises and no guilt. Just like I don’t want a “diet version” of Thanksgiving, and I don’t want an “alternative meal” for people who don’t like the turkey dinner, I don’t want vegan versions served to everyone. I can’t pronounce the ingredients in vegan “cheese” and vegan “butter,” so no thank you. If you want to eat that stuff, fine. If you want to serve it to your guests, fine. But I’m not eating it and I’m not serving it to the majority of my guests. There are plenty of foods like roast vegetables that are naturally vegan and delicious, and that’s great. But when you start getting into fake processed foods, no thanks.

I think OP’s plan and a few of the suggestions here sound really nice. There’s no need for a host to make extra work for themselves or serve weird food to all the guests just because some of the guests choose to be difficult.

+1

NP who also agrees with this. I would make a few accommodations for the vegan guests, since they deserve to have something to eat too, but I would not veganize the overall menu for everybody else. As a guest (or a host) who is not vegan, I have no interest in eating veganized versions of indulgent holiday foods - especially things like mashed potatoes, stuffing, pie, etc.

Exactly no one is asking or expecting this (in this thread). We know absolutely nothing about this family other than they are getting together at thanksgiving and two of the potential guests are traveling from out of state and they are vegan. Oh, also op would like to make them feel welcome without changing too much of feel of menu. Which is hospitable. They’re setting aside portions of certain dishes to make vegan, not serving everyone tofu soufflé.

I’m not a vegan and I really don’t understand the pushback. We all can be rigid, but we can also adapt and be gracious. Op has it under control.

DCUM hates vegans almost as much as it hates dogs. I'm surprised no one has yet suggested pepper spraying the vegan guests to really teach them a lesson.

Oooh, so we should serve dog! That'll teach the dogs AND the vegans...hmmm...

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Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.

Why should everyone else suffer?

why is it suffering?

Because no one wants watered-down versions of their favorite foods on a holiday. Seriously, once or twice a year, we should get to indulge in traditional fare with no compromises and no guilt. Just like I don’t want a “diet version” of Thanksgiving, and I don’t want an “alternative meal” for people who don’t like the turkey dinner, I don’t want vegan versions served to everyone. I can’t pronounce the ingredients in vegan “cheese” and vegan “butter,” so no thank you. If you want to eat that stuff, fine. If you want to serve it to your guests, fine. But I’m not eating it and I’m not serving it to the majority of my guests. There are plenty of foods like roast vegetables that are naturally vegan and delicious, and that’s great. But when you start getting into fake processed foods, no thanks.

I think OP’s plan and a few of the suggestions here sound really nice. There’s no need for a host to make extra work for themselves or serve weird food to all the guests just because some of the guests choose to be difficult.

+1

NP who also agrees with this. I would make a few accommodations for the vegan guests, since they deserve to have something to eat too, but I would not veganize the overall menu for everybody else. As a guest (or a host) who is not vegan, I have no interest in eating veganized versions of indulgent holiday foods - especially things like mashed potatoes, stuffing, pie, etc.

Exactly no one is asking or expecting this (in this thread). We know absolutely nothing about this family other than they are getting together at thanksgiving and two of the potential guests are traveling from out of state and they are vegan. Oh, also op would like to make them feel welcome without changing too much of feel of menu. Which is hospitable. They’re setting aside portions of certain dishes to make vegan, not serving everyone tofu soufflé.

I’m not a vegan and I really don’t understand the pushback. We all can be rigid, but we can also adapt and be gracious. Op has it under control.

DCUM hates vegans almost as much as it hates dogs. I'm surprised no one has yet suggested pepper spraying the vegan guests to really teach them a lesson.

They hate gf people even more. Which is just evil. Imaging not being able to eat gluten and also being hated for it. Some people make life on earth its own version of hell.

Maybe I should tell my law professor, who is a Holocaust survivor, that hell is really having a gluten allergy in 2022.

How about if we hate him for being a holocaust survivor? That's at least similar, dolt.

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Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.

Why should everyone else suffer?

why is it suffering?

Because no one wants watered-down versions of their favorite foods on a holiday. Seriously, once or twice a year, we should get to indulge in traditional fare with no compromises and no guilt. Just like I don’t want a “diet version” of Thanksgiving, and I don’t want an “alternative meal” for people who don’t like the turkey dinner, I don’t want vegan versions served to everyone. I can’t pronounce the ingredients in vegan “cheese” and vegan “butter,” so no thank you. If you want to eat that stuff, fine. If you want to serve it to your guests, fine. But I’m not eating it and I’m not serving it to the majority of my guests. There are plenty of foods like roast vegetables that are naturally vegan and delicious, and that’s great. But when you start getting into fake processed foods, no thanks.

I think OP’s plan and a few of the suggestions here sound really nice. There’s no need for a host to make extra work for themselves or serve weird food to all the guests just because some of the guests choose to be difficult.

+1

NP who also agrees with this. I would make a few accommodations for the vegan guests, since they deserve to have something to eat too, but I would not veganize the overall menu for everybody else. As a guest (or a host) who is not vegan, I have no interest in eating veganized versions of indulgent holiday foods - especially things like mashed potatoes, stuffing, pie, etc.

Exactly no one is asking or expecting this (in this thread). We know absolutely nothing about this family other than they are getting together at thanksgiving and two of the potential guests are traveling from out of state and they are vegan. Oh, also op would like to make them feel welcome without changing too much of feel of menu. Which is hospitable. They’re setting aside portions of certain dishes to make vegan, not serving everyone tofu soufflé.

I’m not a vegan and I really don’t understand the pushback. We all can be rigid, but we can also adapt and be gracious. Op has it under control.

DCUM hates vegans almost as much as it hates dogs. I'm surprised no one has yet suggested pepper spraying the vegan guests to really teach them a lesson.

They hate gf people even more. Which is just evil. Imaging not being able to eat gluten and also being hated for it. Some people make life on earth its own version of hell.

No, I am fine with gluten free because I know some people with celiac disease. Vegans, however, have made a lifestyle choice and, even more unfortunately, that lifestyle choice strongly reflects a mental illness that results in food control. I don't enable that.

Begin vegan is healthy. I already posted that Bill Cinton became vegan after having a major heart attack and has been healthy ever since. I'd love to be vegan. I don't have the self control for it unfortunately. I know many young people who are vegan. It is definitely not a mental illness. You have to be pretty old to have that opinion of what is a fairly mainstream lifestyle choice. Vegan food can be found everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.

Why should everyone else suffer?

why is it suffering?

Because no one wants watered-down versions of their favorite foods on a holiday. Seriously, once or twice a year, we should get to indulge in traditional fare with no compromises and no guilt. Just like I don’t want a “diet version” of Thanksgiving, and I don’t want an “alternative meal” for people who don’t like the turkey dinner, I don’t want vegan versions served to everyone. I can’t pronounce the ingredients in vegan “cheese” and vegan “butter,” so no thank you. If you want to eat that stuff, fine. If you want to serve it to your guests, fine. But I’m not eating it and I’m not serving it to the majority of my guests. There are plenty of foods like roast vegetables that are naturally vegan and delicious, and that’s great. But when you start getting into fake processed foods, no thanks.

I think OP’s plan and a few of the suggestions here sound really nice. There’s no need for a host to make extra work for themselves or serve weird food to all the guests just because some of the guests choose to be difficult.

+1

NP who also agrees with this. I would make a few accommodations for the vegan guests, since they deserve to have something to eat too, but I would not veganize the overall menu for everybody else. As a guest (or a host) who is not vegan, I have no interest in eating veganized versions of indulgent holiday foods - especially things like mashed potatoes, stuffing, pie, etc.

Exactly no one is asking or expecting this (in this thread). We know absolutely nothing about this family other than they are getting together at thanksgiving and two of the potential guests are traveling from out of state and they are vegan. Oh, also op would like to make them feel welcome without changing too much of feel of menu. Which is hospitable. They’re setting aside portions of certain dishes to make vegan, not serving everyone tofu soufflé.

I’m not a vegan and I really don’t understand the pushback. We all can be rigid, but we can also adapt and be gracious. Op has it under control.

DCUM hates vegans almost as much as it hates dogs. I'm surprised no one has yet suggested pepper spraying the vegan guests to really teach them a lesson.

They hate gf people even more. Which is just evil. Imaging not being able to eat gluten and also being hated for it. Some people make life on earth its own version of hell.

Maybe I should tell my law professor, who is a Holocaust survivor, that hell is really having a gluten allergy in 2022.

How about if we hate him for being a holocaust survivor? That's at least similar, dolt.

Oh, yeah. Millennia of systematic genocide and oppression and bigotry is “similar to” people with gluten allergies getting questioned, doubted or being the butt of the occasional joke.

Being burned or gassed to death is so similar to some DCUM comments, amirite?

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Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.

Why should everyone else suffer?

why is it suffering?

Because no one wants watered-down versions of their favorite foods on a holiday. Seriously, once or twice a year, we should get to indulge in traditional fare with no compromises and no guilt. Just like I don’t want a “diet version” of Thanksgiving, and I don’t want an “alternative meal” for people who don’t like the turkey dinner, I don’t want vegan versions served to everyone. I can’t pronounce the ingredients in vegan “cheese” and vegan “butter,” so no thank you. If you want to eat that stuff, fine. If you want to serve it to your guests, fine. But I’m not eating it and I’m not serving it to the majority of my guests. There are plenty of foods like roast vegetables that are naturally vegan and delicious, and that’s great. But when you start getting into fake processed foods, no thanks.

I think OP’s plan and a few of the suggestions here sound really nice. There’s no need for a host to make extra work for themselves or serve weird food to all the guests just because some of the guests choose to be difficult.

+1

NP who also agrees with this. I would make a few accommodations for the vegan guests, since they deserve to have something to eat too, but I would not veganize the overall menu for everybody else. As a guest (or a host) who is not vegan, I have no interest in eating veganized versions of indulgent holiday foods - especially things like mashed potatoes, stuffing, pie, etc.

Exactly no one is asking or expecting this (in this thread). We know absolutely nothing about this family other than they are getting together at thanksgiving and two of the potential guests are traveling from out of state and they are vegan. Oh, also op would like to make them feel welcome without changing too much of feel of menu. Which is hospitable. They’re setting aside portions of certain dishes to make vegan, not serving everyone tofu soufflé.

I’m not a vegan and I really don’t understand the pushback. We all can be rigid, but we can also adapt and be gracious. Op has it under control.

DCUM hates vegans almost as much as it hates dogs. I'm surprised no one has yet suggested pepper spraying the vegan guests to really teach them a lesson.

They hate gf people even more. Which is just evil. Imaging not being able to eat gluten and also being hated for it. Some people make life on earth its own version of hell.

Maybe I should tell my law professor, who is a Holocaust survivor, that hell is really having a gluten allergy in 2022.

How about if we hate him for being a holocaust survivor? That's at least similar, dolt.

Oh, yeah. Millennia of systematic genocide and oppression and bigotry is “similar to” people with gluten allergies getting questioned, doubted or being the butt of the occasional joke.

Being burned or gassed to death is so similar to some DCUM comments, amirite?

You are a kook.

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Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.

Why should everyone else suffer?

why is it suffering?

Because no one wants watered-down versions of their favorite foods on a holiday. Seriously, once or twice a year, we should get to indulge in traditional fare with no compromises and no guilt. Just like I don’t want a “diet version” of Thanksgiving, and I don’t want an “alternative meal” for people who don’t like the turkey dinner, I don’t want vegan versions served to everyone. I can’t pronounce the ingredients in vegan “cheese” and vegan “butter,” so no thank you. If you want to eat that stuff, fine. If you want to serve it to your guests, fine. But I’m not eating it and I’m not serving it to the majority of my guests. There are plenty of foods like roast vegetables that are naturally vegan and delicious, and that’s great. But when you start getting into fake processed foods, no thanks.

I think OP’s plan and a few of the suggestions here sound really nice. There’s no need for a host to make extra work for themselves or serve weird food to all the guests just because some of the guests choose to be difficult.

+1

NP who also agrees with this. I would make a few accommodations for the vegan guests, since they deserve to have something to eat too, but I would not veganize the overall menu for everybody else. As a guest (or a host) who is not vegan, I have no interest in eating veganized versions of indulgent holiday foods - especially things like mashed potatoes, stuffing, pie, etc.

Exactly no one is asking or expecting this (in this thread). We know absolutely nothing about this family other than they are getting together at thanksgiving and two of the potential guests are traveling from out of state and they are vegan. Oh, also op would like to make them feel welcome without changing too much of feel of menu. Which is hospitable. They’re setting aside portions of certain dishes to make vegan, not serving everyone tofu soufflé.

I’m not a vegan and I really don’t understand the pushback. We all can be rigid, but we can also adapt and be gracious. Op has it under control.

DCUM hates vegans almost as much as it hates dogs. I'm surprised no one has yet suggested pepper spraying the vegan guests to really teach them a lesson.

They hate gf people even more. Which is just evil. Imaging not being able to eat gluten and also being hated for it. Some people make life on earth its own version of hell.

No, I am fine with gluten free because I know some people with celiac disease. Vegans, however, have made a lifestyle choice and, even more unfortunately, that lifestyle choice strongly reflects a mental illness that results in food control. I don't enable that.

Begin vegan is healthy. I already posted that Bill Cinton became vegan after having a major heart attack and has been healthy ever since. I'd love to be vegan. I don't have the self control for it unfortunately. I know many young people who are vegan. It is definitely not a mental illness. You have to be pretty old to have that opinion of what is a fairly mainstream lifestyle choice. Vegan food can be found everywhere.

I mean, Bill Clinton ate like garbage before he became vegan. Literally any diet is better than mainlining McDonalds all day long. But after awhile, the deficiencies of 100% veganism catch up to you. He’s also not 100% vegan anymore, for what it’s worth. If being vegan was so healthy and natural, a lot more people would be vegan. As it stands, veganism is a very modern luxury available only within the context of our modern times of plenty. In the past, people were vegan against their will if they couldn’t hunt or afford meat or dairy. Knock yourself out and be vegan. But don’t try and pretend it’s the ideal or natural way of things.

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We have someone with Celiac ( serious GF), one family of five all gf by choice, 3 vegans, and a bunch f refer gf, veggies and a few low carb keto type people. We also have a very piggy like couple that wants food doused in gravy, butter, and bacon.

What I do is to make everything GF except rolls, gravy, pumpkin pie and one stuffing dish. All vegetable sides are vegan without butter, cream or bacon. Since it’s a large group, I have lots of sides and salads. I don’t make two different versions of anything. I give the piggy couple a butter dish and they can suck it up on wanting bacon.

Google mashed potatoes with olive oil and garlic. It’s better IMO than with loads of butter and cream. Same with sweet potatoes, honey and nuts. Carmelized Brussel sprouts. Green beans with lemon and almonds, roasted butternut squash, roasted cauliflower. I do a wild rice alternative to stuffing which is really popular.

I don’t put flour on the turkey and do use butter here.

For dessert, I get a gf/vegan cake mix, substitute strong coffee for water, add a teaspoon of espresso powder and bake/steam it in my instapot. It tastes very moist and dense and reminds me of the chocolate almond flour torte you get in Italy.

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Anonymous wrote:OP Trader Joe’s sells a vegan French onion dip. I would try and do as much as you can vegan except the turkey. You can make the same potatoes for everyone using a plant based milk and butter.

Why should everyone else suffer?

why is it suffering?

Because no one wants watered-down versions of their favorite foods on a holiday. Seriously, once or twice a year, we should get to indulge in traditional fare with no compromises and no guilt. Just like I don’t want a “diet version” of Thanksgiving, and I don’t want an “alternative meal” for people who don’t like the turkey dinner, I don’t want vegan versions served to everyone. I can’t pronounce the ingredients in vegan “cheese” and vegan “butter,” so no thank you. If you want to eat that stuff, fine. If you want to serve it to your guests, fine. But I’m not eating it and I’m not serving it to the majority of my guests. There are plenty of foods like roast vegetables that are naturally vegan and delicious, and that’s great. But when you start getting into fake processed foods, no thanks.

I think OP’s plan and a few of the suggestions here sound really nice. There’s no need for a host to make extra work for themselves or serve weird food to all the guests just because some of the guests choose to be difficult.

+1

NP who also agrees with this. I would make a few accommodations for the vegan guests, since they deserve to have something to eat too, but I would not veganize the overall menu for everybody else. As a guest (or a host) who is not vegan, I have no interest in eating veganized versions of indulgent holiday foods - especially things like mashed potatoes, stuffing, pie, etc.

Exactly no one is asking or expecting this (in this thread). We know absolutely nothing about this family other than they are getting together at thanksgiving and two of the potential guests are traveling from out of state and they are vegan. Oh, also op would like to make them feel welcome without changing too much of feel of menu. Which is hospitable. They’re setting aside portions of certain dishes to make vegan, not serving everyone tofu soufflé.

I’m not a vegan and I really don’t understand the pushback. We all can be rigid, but we can also adapt and be gracious. Op has it under control.

DCUM hates vegans almost as much as it hates dogs. I'm surprised no one has yet suggested pepper spraying the vegan guests to really teach them a lesson.

They hate gf people even more. Which is just evil. Imaging not being able to eat gluten and also being hated for it. Some people make life on earth its own version of hell.

No, I am fine with gluten free because I know some people with celiac disease. Vegans, however, have made a lifestyle choice and, even more unfortunately, that lifestyle choice strongly reflects a mental illness that results in food control. I don't enable that.

Begin vegan is healthy. I already posted that Bill Cinton became vegan after having a major heart attack and has been healthy ever since. I'd love to be vegan. I don't have the self control for it unfortunately. I know many young people who are vegan. It is definitely not a mental illness. You have to be pretty old to have that opinion of what is a fairly mainstream lifestyle choice. Vegan food can be found everywhere.

I mean, Bill Clinton ate like garbage before he became vegan. Literally any diet is better than mainlining McDonalds all day long. But after awhile, the deficiencies of 100% veganism catch up to you. He’s also not 100% vegan anymore, for what it’s worth. If being vegan was so healthy and natural, a lot more people would be vegan. As it stands, veganism is a very modern luxury available only within the context of our modern times of plenty. In the past, people were vegan against their will if they couldn’t hunt or afford meat or dairy. Knock yourself out and be vegan. But don’t try and pretend it’s the ideal or natural way of things.

Exactly. Bill Clinton went from one extreme end of the pendulum to another. And just because he ain’t dead yet doesn’t mean he’s automatically “healthy now.”