Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?

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Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.


How do you know??


It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.


So? Remember when you were all piling on teachers during the pandemic, telling them they had to go in "because the kids don't catch it", telling them they should quit if they didn't go in and any warm body would do a better job, and then accusing them of being pedophiles and groomers? How much abuse did you think people would take for 60k a year? They listened to you! You bought it, you own it now. Enjoy!


This. In 2020, at the worst of the pandemic pre vaccine, I exasperatedly asked a hypothetical question about whether these angry parents would rather have an unemployed, totally unqualified mouthbreather who couldn’t cut it as a Target cashier “teach” their kids in person rather than an experienced, qualified teacher virtually and was met with a ridiculous cavalcade of “Yes!!” “100%!!”

Cool. “Enjoy,” indeed.


Well, from most people's POV, virtual school has zero value so it could be the great poet society guy teaching it and honestly? Wouldn't matter. No one is learning especially in ES.
So yes, school with a moron teacher is better then no school at all.


ummm ok lol


There's really nothing funny about a Sophie's Choice between school with an idiot teacher and no school.


My kids got a lot out of virtual school. Also I was mature enough to realize it was a pandemic, and schools were doing what they could under difficult circumstances.
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Anonymous wrote:The Residents at my ES have both passed the Praxis and are considered certified teachers.


You cannot be considered a certified teacher. You are a certified teacher or you are not.

Passing the subject area praxis should be a minimum requirement for a teacher residency in MS or HS.


OMG, how are you a teacher? They passed the praxis, they are certified teachers. Learn how to comprehend what you are reading!!!


A teacher who has completed the praxis and other requirements for a provisional license is a certified teacher and is paid on the teacher
scale. A teacher resident has only a requirement for a college degree before starting and after that one year to complete the requirements for the provisional license and will be paid 48K. A sub is a short term job paid hourly.

HR
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Anonymous wrote:500 teachers needed one week before school. FCPS will fill classrooms with unskilled workers who don’t know the subject they are hired to teach and pay them $48K/year instead of paying up for real teachers.


SB in a race to the bottom.


It's not the SB, there is a national shortage. If anything blame VDOE wgo set requirements. It's bugger than the SB.


There isn’t a shortage of teachers - there is a shortage of people willing to teach for low pay and terrible working conditions.


+1


Yep. The certified teachers are out there but are choosing not to teach. If districts were really smart, they'd talk to those teachers and see what they could do to get them back. For some, it would be more money but for most it would be enforcement of school rules (not hard to do), getting rid of the majority of testing which wastes instructional time, getting rid of all of the BS extra crap like a million hours of trainings that are mostly useless, double daily planning time and figure out how to get enough people in to make that happen. That would be a great start right there.
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Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.


How do you know??


It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.


So? Remember when you were all piling on teachers during the pandemic, telling them they had to go in "because the kids don't catch it", telling them they should quit if they didn't go in and any warm body would do a better job, and then accusing them of being pedophiles and groomers? How much abuse did you think people would take for 60k a year? They listened to you! You bought it, you own it now. Enjoy!


This. In 2020, at the worst of the pandemic pre vaccine, I exasperatedly asked a hypothetical question about whether these angry parents would rather have an unemployed, totally unqualified mouthbreather who couldn’t cut it as a Target cashier “teach” their kids in person rather than an experienced, qualified teacher virtually and was met with a ridiculous cavalcade of “Yes!!” “100%!!”

Cool. “Enjoy,” indeed.



Well, from most people's POV, virtual school has zero value so it could be the great poet society guy teaching it and honestly? Wouldn't matter. No one is learning especially in ES.
So yes, school with a moron teacher is better then no school at all.


ummm ok lol


There's really nothing funny about a Sophie's Choice between school with an idiot teacher and no school.


My kids got a lot out of virtual school. Also I was mature enough to realize it was a pandemic, and schools were doing what they could under difficult circumstances.


Same here. I was satisfied with the instruction that my child received, especially given the extraordinary circumstances.
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Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.


How do you know??


It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.


So? Remember when you were all piling on teachers during the pandemic, telling them they had to go in "because the kids don't catch it", telling them they should quit if they didn't go in and any warm body would do a better job, and then accusing them of being pedophiles and groomers? How much abuse did you think people would take for 60k a year? They listened to you! You bought it, you own it now. Enjoy!


This. In 2020, at the worst of the pandemic pre vaccine, I exasperatedly asked a hypothetical question about whether these angry parents would rather have an unemployed, totally unqualified mouthbreather who couldn’t cut it as a Target cashier “teach” their kids in person rather than an experienced, qualified teacher virtually and was met with a ridiculous cavalcade of “Yes!!” “100%!!”

Cool. “Enjoy,” indeed.



Well, from most people's POV, virtual school has zero value so it could be the great poet society guy teaching it and honestly? Wouldn't matter. No one is learning especially in ES.
So yes, school with a moron teacher is better then no school at all.


ummm ok lol


There's really nothing funny about a Sophie's Choice between school with an idiot teacher and no school.


My kids got a lot out of virtual school. Also I was mature enough to realize it was a pandemic, and schools were doing what they could under difficult circumstances.


Same here. I was satisfied with the instruction that my child received, especially given the extraordinary circumstances.


No one I know was "satisfied" with FCPS during the year schools
were closed.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Residents at my ES have both passed the Praxis and are considered certified teachers.


You cannot be considered a certified teacher. You are a certified teacher or you are not.

Passing the subject area praxis should be a minimum requirement for a teacher residency in MS or HS.


OMG, how are you a teacher? They passed the praxis, they are certified teachers. Learn how to comprehend what you are reading!!!


A teacher who has completed the praxis and other requirements for a provisional license is a certified teacher and is paid on the teacher
scale. A teacher resident has only a requirement for a college degree before starting and after that one year to complete the requirements for the provisional license and will be paid 48K. A sub is a short term job paid hourly.

HR


Thank you for showing up and saving us from the same conversation on repeat!
Anonymous
Is a "certified teacher" in their first year paid differently then the 48k a "resident teacher" will make?
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Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.


How do you know??


It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.


So? Remember when you were all piling on teachers during the pandemic, telling them they had to go in "because the kids don't catch it", telling them they should quit if they didn't go in and any warm body would do a better job, and then accusing them of being pedophiles and groomers? How much abuse did you think people would take for 60k a year? They listened to you! You bought it, you own it now. Enjoy!


This. In 2020, at the worst of the pandemic pre vaccine, I exasperatedly asked a hypothetical question about whether these angry parents would rather have an unemployed, totally unqualified mouthbreather who couldn’t cut it as a Target cashier “teach” their kids in person rather than an experienced, qualified teacher virtually and was met with a ridiculous cavalcade of “Yes!!” “100%!!”

Cool. “Enjoy,” indeed.



Well, from most people's POV, virtual school has zero value so it could be the great poet society guy teaching it and honestly? Wouldn't matter. No one is learning especially in ES.
So yes, school with a moron teacher is better then no school at all.


ummm ok lol


There's really nothing funny about a Sophie's Choice between school with an idiot teacher and no school.


My kids got a lot out of virtual school. Also I was mature enough to realize it was a pandemic, and schools were doing what they could under difficult circumstances.


Same here. I was satisfied with the instruction that my child received, especially given the extraordinary circumstances.


No one I know was "satisfied" with FCPS during the year schools
were closed.


Hi did you read the bolded part? I feel that my kids' teachers did the best they could do given the circumstances that were out of their control.

Also, psycho, this was over a year ago, you REALLY need to get over it. Find something else to complain about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.


How do you know??


It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.


So? Remember when you were all piling on teachers during the pandemic, telling them they had to go in "because the kids don't catch it", telling them they should quit if they didn't go in and any warm body would do a better job, and then accusing them of being pedophiles and groomers? How much abuse did you think people would take for 60k a year? They listened to you! You bought it, you own it now. Enjoy!


This. In 2020, at the worst of the pandemic pre vaccine, I exasperatedly asked a hypothetical question about whether these angry parents would rather have an unemployed, totally unqualified mouthbreather who couldn’t cut it as a Target cashier “teach” their kids in person rather than an experienced, qualified teacher virtually and was met with a ridiculous cavalcade of “Yes!!” “100%!!”

Cool. “Enjoy,” indeed.


Well, from most people's POV, virtual school has zero value so it could be the great poet society guy teaching it and honestly? Wouldn't matter. No one is learning especially in ES.
So yes, school with a moron teacher is better then no school at all.


ummm ok lol


There's really nothing funny about a Sophie's Choice between school with an idiot teacher and no school.


Did you really just compare virtual school to murdering a child?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is a "certified teacher" in their first year paid differently then the 48k a "resident teacher" will make?


Yes. A teacher with a provisional or active license is paid based on highest level of education and years of experience.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.


How do you know??


It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.


So? Remember when you were all piling on teachers during the pandemic, telling them they had to go in "because the kids don't catch it", telling them they should quit if they didn't go in and any warm body would do a better job, and then accusing them of being pedophiles and groomers? How much abuse did you think people would take for 60k a year? They listened to you! You bought it, you own it now. Enjoy!


This. In 2020, at the worst of the pandemic pre vaccine, I exasperatedly asked a hypothetical question about whether these angry parents would rather have an unemployed, totally unqualified mouthbreather who couldn’t cut it as a Target cashier “teach” their kids in person rather than an experienced, qualified teacher virtually and was met with a ridiculous cavalcade of “Yes!!” “100%!!”

Cool. “Enjoy,” indeed.


Well, from most people's POV, virtual school has zero value so it could be the great poet society guy teaching it and honestly? Wouldn't matter. No one is learning especially in ES.
So yes, school with a moron teacher is better then no school at all.


ummm ok lol


There's really nothing funny about a Sophie's Choice between school with an idiot teacher and no school.


Did you really just compare virtual school to murdering a child?


You don't understand analogies? Sophie's Choice refers to an impossible decision.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is a "certified teacher" in their first year paid differently then the 48k a "resident teacher" will make?


Yes, they typically are paid 53k or more depending on qualifications.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.


How do you know??


It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.


So? Remember when you were all piling on teachers during the pandemic, telling them they had to go in "because the kids don't catch it", telling them they should quit if they didn't go in and any warm body would do a better job, and then accusing them of being pedophiles and groomers? How much abuse did you think people would take for 60k a year? They listened to you! You bought it, you own it now. Enjoy!


This. In 2020, at the worst of the pandemic pre vaccine, I exasperatedly asked a hypothetical question about whether these angry parents would rather have an unemployed, totally unqualified mouthbreather who couldn’t cut it as a Target cashier “teach” their kids in person rather than an experienced, qualified teacher virtually and was met with a ridiculous cavalcade of “Yes!!” “100%!!”

Cool. “Enjoy,” indeed.


Well, from most people's POV, virtual school has zero value so it could be the great poet society guy teaching it and honestly? Wouldn't matter. No one is learning especially in ES.
So yes, school with a moron teacher is better then no school at all.


ummm ok lol


There's really nothing funny about a Sophie's Choice between school with an idiot teacher and no school.


Did you really just compare virtual school to murdering a child?


You don't understand analogies? Sophie's Choice refers to an impossible decision.


No, I get analogies, that’s was just a terrible one.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:500 teachers needed one week before school. FCPS will fill classrooms with unskilled workers who don’t know the subject they are hired to teach and pay them $48K/year instead of paying up for real teachers.


SB in a race to the bottom.


It's not the SB, there is a national shortage. If anything blame VDOE wgo set requirements. It's bugger than the SB.


There isn’t a shortage of teachers - there is a shortage of people willing to teach for low pay and terrible working conditions.


+1


Yep. The certified teachers are out there but are choosing not to teach. If districts were really smart, they'd talk to those teachers and see what they could do to get them back. For some, it would be more money but for most it would be enforcement of school rules (not hard to do), getting rid of the majority of testing which wastes instructional time, getting rid of all of the BS extra crap like a million hours of trainings that are mostly useless, double daily planning time and figure out how to get enough people in to make that happen. That would be a great start right there.


Fat chance--they're not crazy. Given all the additional responsibilities that admin is throwing at us this year, I wish I'd left too. I haven't even been there that long but one of my old timer colleagues says it's never been this bad.
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Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.


How do you know??


It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.


So? Remember when you were all piling on teachers during the pandemic, telling them they had to go in "because the kids don't catch it", telling them they should quit if they didn't go in and any warm body would do a better job, and then accusing them of being pedophiles and groomers? How much abuse did you think people would take for 60k a year? They listened to you! You bought it, you own it now. Enjoy!


This. In 2020, at the worst of the pandemic pre vaccine, I exasperatedly asked a hypothetical question about whether these angry parents would rather have an unemployed, totally unqualified mouthbreather who couldn’t cut it as a Target cashier “teach” their kids in person rather than an experienced, qualified teacher virtually and was met with a ridiculous cavalcade of “Yes!!” “100%!!”

Cool. “Enjoy,” indeed.


Well, from most people's POV, virtual school has zero value so it could be the great poet society guy teaching it and honestly? Wouldn't matter. No one is learning especially in ES.
So yes, school with a moron teacher is better then no school at all.


ummm ok lol


There's really nothing funny about a Sophie's Choice between school with an idiot teacher and no school.


Did you really just compare virtual school to murdering a child?


You don't understand analogies? Sophie's Choice refers to an impossible decision.


No, I get analogies, that’s was just a terrible one.


+1. Move on.
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