KID Museum moving to Bethesda Metro?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:First let me say I have nothing against bocce ball and glad kids are playing it. However, I do have a problem with MCPS spending $1,087,400 on bocce ball?

Pages 28-29 ($527,400)
Bocce—Stipends (3 years x 1 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $145,800
Additional Support—Stipends (3 years x 2 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $291,600
Athletic Coordinator stipend (3 years x $750 x 40 sites) $90,000
Page 35 ($453,000)
Bocce—Officials (3 years x $175 per school x 40 sites) $21,000
Additional Support—Officials (3 years x $350 per school x 40 sites) $42,000
Additional Support—Transportation (3 years x 5 x $650 per school x 40 sites) $390,000

Transportation might make sense ($650 per school game). The labor makes no sense though.

Do you really need to hire bocce ball officials? I learned how to play in three minutes from YouTube, but whatever. Do you really need Bocce-Officials AND Additional Support-Officials AND stipends for Bocce AND stipends for additional support AND a stipend for an Athletic Coordinator? Why MCPS is spending $980,400 for labor to play bocce ball that could be done as part of PE? I don't know.

A MCPS Athletic Coordinator (NTE 100 hours, 3C36) cost $2,715. Over 3 years that's $8,145. Why is MCPS paying $90,000? No idea. A Bocce (Co-ed) (Corollary) (3B11) cost $1,725. Over three years that's $5,175. Even if I have two people at each of the 40 schools, that's $414,000 ($422,145 with the Coordinator). That's still less than half of what MCPS requested, so where did the other $558,255 go?

Page 40 ($197,000)
Bocce—Balls (3 years x 1 x $145 per school x 40 sites) $17,400
Bocce—Startup costs—Courts (3 years x 2 x $350 per school x 40 sites) $28,000
Bocce—Startup costs—Balls (3 years x 2 x $145 per school x 40 sites) $11,600
Additional Support—Equipment (3 years x $500 per school x 40 sites) $60,000
Additional Support—Startup costs— Uniforms ($1,000 per school x 40 sites) $40,000
Additional Support—Startup costs— Equipment (3 years x 2 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $40,000

These numbers don't even add up correctly? (Ex. Bocce-Startup costs-Balls, 3 years x 2 x $145 per school x 40 sites is $34,800, not $11,600). I used the video of how MCPS paid for bocce ball to calculate what is a more likely "start-up cost".

$40 per bocce ball set x 1 set x 40 sites x 3 years = a maximum of $4,800
https://www.amazon.com/GoSports-Backyard-Pallino-Measuring-Choose/dp/B07CMKBW26/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2GCV38HPGCHSL&keywords=bocce%2Bball&qid=1652397607&sprefix=bocce%2Bball%2Caps%2C58&sr=8-5&th=1

$40 per bocce ball team shirt (uniform) x 40 schools x 10 players = a maximum of $16K
https://www.mylocker.net/sports-teams/bocce-ball/product-908?color_id=9002&top=Your%20Text&bottom=Bocce%20Ball&yearcombo=2022&name=Your%20Name&number=00&design_id=0&photo=0&isUploaded=0&fc1=EEEEEE&fc2=000000

The video shows how MCPS plays bocce ball, I don't know what startup costs would be? They're using the gym and a bunch of pvc pipes or traffic cones. An official bocce ball court is 86.92 feet long and 13.12 feet wide. It looks like MCPS was using PVC pipe (not sure why they're not using 2x4's?), but lets stick with PVC pipes since they're more expensive. PVC around the entire court would be (86.92 x 2) + (13.12 x 2) or 200' of PVC pipe at $50 per 10' of pipe is $1K.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/JM-eagle-3-in-x-10-ft-PVC-Schedule-40-DWV-Plain-End-Pipe-531095/100161921

6 Traffic cones are about $150 x 40 schools = a maximum of $6K
https://www.amazon.com/Reliancer-Reflective-Fluorescent-Construction-Improvement/dp/B07PY757L8/ref=sxin_14_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?crid=88DMD5IIKVF4&cv_ct_cx=traffic%2Bcones&keywords=traffic%2Bcones&pd_rd_i=B07PY757L8&pd_rd_r=0a14f226-6e72-4e22-9ce6-6ceb6f29c0f4&pd_rd_w=P3SEK&pd_rd_wg=GMIht&pf_rd_p=9dca4024-3e25-44da-8740-13759fcb9369&pf_rd_r=1MYZVGDDC31QZBJKTS4F&qid=1652398265&sprefix=traffic%2Bcones%2Caps%2C60&sr=1-2-a73d1c8c-2fd2-4f19-aa41-2df022bcb241-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzNjZKSkRMVEdBS0pTJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODQ0MjM2M0VKTEFLVEtYVk1HRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODAyNzU5MjZGSkRSTFhSNk0wJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3Bfc2VhcmNoX3RoZW1hdGljJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

All this together is $27,800, and I would agree that it's a reasonable program to fund at this cost. I just can't figure out where the other $169,200 went?

As far as I can tell, in total this program should cost around $449,945? So what happened to the other $637,455? Anyone?

There were a lot of juicy items in the ESSER III Final that I have even more questions about. Now I'm even more curious about those as well?


Not clear why there is a Bocce obsession? It is an interscholastic sport for a combined team of able and disabled students. They want a stipend for the team coaches. They need to pay the referees so they come to games. Do you complain this much about spending on other interscholastic sports??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First let me say I have nothing against bocce ball and glad kids are playing it. However, I do have a problem with MCPS spending $1,087,400 on bocce ball?

Pages 28-29 ($527,400)
Bocce—Stipends (3 years x 1 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $145,800
Additional Support—Stipends (3 years x 2 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $291,600
Athletic Coordinator stipend (3 years x $750 x 40 sites) $90,000
Page 35 ($453,000)
Bocce—Officials (3 years x $175 per school x 40 sites) $21,000
Additional Support—Officials (3 years x $350 per school x 40 sites) $42,000
Additional Support—Transportation (3 years x 5 x $650 per school x 40 sites) $390,000

Transportation might make sense ($650 per school game). The labor makes no sense though.

Do you really need to hire bocce ball officials? I learned how to play in three minutes from YouTube, but whatever. Do you really need Bocce-Officials AND Additional Support-Officials AND stipends for Bocce AND stipends for additional support AND a stipend for an Athletic Coordinator? Why MCPS is spending $980,400 for labor to play bocce ball that could be done as part of PE? I don't know.

A MCPS Athletic Coordinator (NTE 100 hours, 3C36) cost $2,715. Over 3 years that's $8,145. Why is MCPS paying $90,000? No idea. A Bocce (Co-ed) (Corollary) (3B11) cost $1,725. Over three years that's $5,175. Even if I have two people at each of the 40 schools, that's $414,000 ($422,145 with the Coordinator). That's still less than half of what MCPS requested, so where did the other $558,255 go?

Page 40 ($197,000)
Bocce—Balls (3 years x 1 x $145 per school x 40 sites) $17,400
Bocce—Startup costs—Courts (3 years x 2 x $350 per school x 40 sites) $28,000
Bocce—Startup costs—Balls (3 years x 2 x $145 per school x 40 sites) $11,600
Additional Support—Equipment (3 years x $500 per school x 40 sites) $60,000
Additional Support—Startup costs— Uniforms ($1,000 per school x 40 sites) $40,000
Additional Support—Startup costs— Equipment (3 years x 2 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $40,000

These numbers don't even add up correctly? (Ex. Bocce-Startup costs-Balls, 3 years x 2 x $145 per school x 40 sites is $34,800, not $11,600). I used the video of how MCPS paid for bocce ball to calculate what is a more likely "start-up cost".

$40 per bocce ball set x 1 set x 40 sites x 3 years = a maximum of $4,800
https://www.amazon.com/GoSports-Backyard-Pallino-Measuring-Choose/dp/B07CMKBW26/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2GCV38HPGCHSL&keywords=bocce%2Bball&qid=1652397607&sprefix=bocce%2Bball%2Caps%2C58&sr=8-5&th=1

$40 per bocce ball team shirt (uniform) x 40 schools x 10 players = a maximum of $16K
https://www.mylocker.net/sports-teams/bocce-ball/product-908?color_id=9002&top=Your%20Text&bottom=Bocce%20Ball&yearcombo=2022&name=Your%20Name&number=00&design_id=0&photo=0&isUploaded=0&fc1=EEEEEE&fc2=000000

The video shows how MCPS plays bocce ball, I don't know what startup costs would be? They're using the gym and a bunch of pvc pipes or traffic cones. An official bocce ball court is 86.92 feet long and 13.12 feet wide. It looks like MCPS was using PVC pipe (not sure why they're not using 2x4's?), but lets stick with PVC pipes since they're more expensive. PVC around the entire court would be (86.92 x 2) + (13.12 x 2) or 200' of PVC pipe at $50 per 10' of pipe is $1K.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/JM-eagle-3-in-x-10-ft-PVC-Schedule-40-DWV-Plain-End-Pipe-531095/100161921

6 Traffic cones are about $150 x 40 schools = a maximum of $6K
https://www.amazon.com/Reliancer-Reflective-Fluorescent-Construction-Improvement/dp/B07PY757L8/ref=sxin_14_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?crid=88DMD5IIKVF4&cv_ct_cx=traffic%2Bcones&keywords=traffic%2Bcones&pd_rd_i=B07PY757L8&pd_rd_r=0a14f226-6e72-4e22-9ce6-6ceb6f29c0f4&pd_rd_w=P3SEK&pd_rd_wg=GMIht&pf_rd_p=9dca4024-3e25-44da-8740-13759fcb9369&pf_rd_r=1MYZVGDDC31QZBJKTS4F&qid=1652398265&sprefix=traffic%2Bcones%2Caps%2C60&sr=1-2-a73d1c8c-2fd2-4f19-aa41-2df022bcb241-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzNjZKSkRMVEdBS0pTJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODQ0MjM2M0VKTEFLVEtYVk1HRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODAyNzU5MjZGSkRSTFhSNk0wJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3Bfc2VhcmNoX3RoZW1hdGljJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

All this together is $27,800, and I would agree that it's a reasonable program to fund at this cost. I just can't figure out where the other $169,200 went?

As far as I can tell, in total this program should cost around $449,945? So what happened to the other $637,455? Anyone?

There were a lot of juicy items in the ESSER III Final that I have even more questions about. Now I'm even more curious about those as well?


Not clear why there is a Bocce obsession? It is an interscholastic sport for a combined team of able and disabled students. They want a stipend for the team coaches. They need to pay the referees so they come to games. Do you complain this much about spending on other interscholastic sports??


I thank the PP for posting. There’s a lot of money not accounted for. Misuse of government funds is a crime so MCPS should be explaining the huge discrepancies in the accounting for the program.

They already have a criminal investigation into the spending in the MCPS Transportation Department. Why should A MCPS Athletics program not follow the same scrutiny?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First let me say I have nothing against bocce ball and glad kids are playing it. However, I do have a problem with MCPS spending $1,087,400 on bocce ball?

Pages 28-29 ($527,400)
Bocce—Stipends (3 years x 1 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $145,800
Additional Support—Stipends (3 years x 2 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $291,600
Athletic Coordinator stipend (3 years x $750 x 40 sites) $90,000
Page 35 ($453,000)
Bocce—Officials (3 years x $175 per school x 40 sites) $21,000
Additional Support—Officials (3 years x $350 per school x 40 sites) $42,000
Additional Support—Transportation (3 years x 5 x $650 per school x 40 sites) $390,000

Transportation might make sense ($650 per school game). The labor makes no sense though.

Do you really need to hire bocce ball officials? I learned how to play in three minutes from YouTube, but whatever. Do you really need Bocce-Officials AND Additional Support-Officials AND stipends for Bocce AND stipends for additional support AND a stipend for an Athletic Coordinator? Why MCPS is spending $980,400 for labor to play bocce ball that could be done as part of PE? I don't know.

A MCPS Athletic Coordinator (NTE 100 hours, 3C36) cost $2,715. Over 3 years that's $8,145. Why is MCPS paying $90,000? No idea. A Bocce (Co-ed) (Corollary) (3B11) cost $1,725. Over three years that's $5,175. Even if I have two people at each of the 40 schools, that's $414,000 ($422,145 with the Coordinator). That's still less than half of what MCPS requested, so where did the other $558,255 go?

Page 40 ($197,000)
Bocce—Balls (3 years x 1 x $145 per school x 40 sites) $17,400
Bocce—Startup costs—Courts (3 years x 2 x $350 per school x 40 sites) $28,000
Bocce—Startup costs—Balls (3 years x 2 x $145 per school x 40 sites) $11,600
Additional Support—Equipment (3 years x $500 per school x 40 sites) $60,000
Additional Support—Startup costs— Uniforms ($1,000 per school x 40 sites) $40,000
Additional Support—Startup costs— Equipment (3 years x 2 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $40,000

These numbers don't even add up correctly? (Ex. Bocce-Startup costs-Balls, 3 years x 2 x $145 per school x 40 sites is $34,800, not $11,600). I used the video of how MCPS paid for bocce ball to calculate what is a more likely "start-up cost".

$40 per bocce ball set x 1 set x 40 sites x 3 years = a maximum of $4,800
https://www.amazon.com/GoSports-Backyard-Pallino-Measuring-Choose/dp/B07CMKBW26/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2GCV38HPGCHSL&keywords=bocce%2Bball&qid=1652397607&sprefix=bocce%2Bball%2Caps%2C58&sr=8-5&th=1

$40 per bocce ball team shirt (uniform) x 40 schools x 10 players = a maximum of $16K
https://www.mylocker.net/sports-teams/bocce-ball/product-908?color_id=9002&top=Your%20Text&bottom=Bocce%20Ball&yearcombo=2022&name=Your%20Name&number=00&design_id=0&photo=0&isUploaded=0&fc1=EEEEEE&fc2=000000

The video shows how MCPS plays bocce ball, I don't know what startup costs would be? They're using the gym and a bunch of pvc pipes or traffic cones. An official bocce ball court is 86.92 feet long and 13.12 feet wide. It looks like MCPS was using PVC pipe (not sure why they're not using 2x4's?), but lets stick with PVC pipes since they're more expensive. PVC around the entire court would be (86.92 x 2) + (13.12 x 2) or 200' of PVC pipe at $50 per 10' of pipe is $1K.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/JM-eagle-3-in-x-10-ft-PVC-Schedule-40-DWV-Plain-End-Pipe-531095/100161921

6 Traffic cones are about $150 x 40 schools = a maximum of $6K
https://www.amazon.com/Reliancer-Reflective-Fluorescent-Construction-Improvement/dp/B07PY757L8/ref=sxin_14_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?crid=88DMD5IIKVF4&cv_ct_cx=traffic%2Bcones&keywords=traffic%2Bcones&pd_rd_i=B07PY757L8&pd_rd_r=0a14f226-6e72-4e22-9ce6-6ceb6f29c0f4&pd_rd_w=P3SEK&pd_rd_wg=GMIht&pf_rd_p=9dca4024-3e25-44da-8740-13759fcb9369&pf_rd_r=1MYZVGDDC31QZBJKTS4F&qid=1652398265&sprefix=traffic%2Bcones%2Caps%2C60&sr=1-2-a73d1c8c-2fd2-4f19-aa41-2df022bcb241-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzNjZKSkRMVEdBS0pTJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODQ0MjM2M0VKTEFLVEtYVk1HRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODAyNzU5MjZGSkRSTFhSNk0wJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3Bfc2VhcmNoX3RoZW1hdGljJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

All this together is $27,800, and I would agree that it's a reasonable program to fund at this cost. I just can't figure out where the other $169,200 went?

As far as I can tell, in total this program should cost around $449,945? So what happened to the other $637,455? Anyone?

There were a lot of juicy items in the ESSER III Final that I have even more questions about. Now I'm even more curious about those as well?


Not clear why there is a Bocce obsession? It is an interscholastic sport for a combined team of able and disabled students. They want a stipend for the team coaches. They need to pay the referees so they come to games. Do you complain this much about spending on other interscholastic sports??


I thank the PP for posting. There’s a lot of money not accounted for. Misuse of government funds is a crime so MCPS should be explaining the huge discrepancies in the accounting for the program.

They already have a criminal investigation into the spending in the MCPS Transportation Department. Why should A MCPS Athletics program not follow the same scrutiny?

what money's not accounted for?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First let me say I have nothing against bocce ball and glad kids are playing it. However, I do have a problem with MCPS spending $1,087,400 on bocce ball?

Pages 28-29 ($527,400)
Bocce—Stipends (3 years x 1 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $145,800
Additional Support—Stipends (3 years x 2 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $291,600
Athletic Coordinator stipend (3 years x $750 x 40 sites) $90,000
Page 35 ($453,000)
Bocce—Officials (3 years x $175 per school x 40 sites) $21,000
Additional Support—Officials (3 years x $350 per school x 40 sites) $42,000
Additional Support—Transportation (3 years x 5 x $650 per school x 40 sites) $390,000

Transportation might make sense ($650 per school game). The labor makes no sense though.

Do you really need to hire bocce ball officials? I learned how to play in three minutes from YouTube, but whatever. Do you really need Bocce-Officials AND Additional Support-Officials AND stipends for Bocce AND stipends for additional support AND a stipend for an Athletic Coordinator? Why MCPS is spending $980,400 for labor to play bocce ball that could be done as part of PE? I don't know.

A MCPS Athletic Coordinator (NTE 100 hours, 3C36) cost $2,715. Over 3 years that's $8,145. Why is MCPS paying $90,000? No idea. A Bocce (Co-ed) (Corollary) (3B11) cost $1,725. Over three years that's $5,175. Even if I have two people at each of the 40 schools, that's $414,000 ($422,145 with the Coordinator). That's still less than half of what MCPS requested, so where did the other $558,255 go?

Page 40 ($197,000)
Bocce—Balls (3 years x 1 x $145 per school x 40 sites) $17,400
Bocce—Startup costs—Courts (3 years x 2 x $350 per school x 40 sites) $28,000
Bocce—Startup costs—Balls (3 years x 2 x $145 per school x 40 sites) $11,600
Additional Support—Equipment (3 years x $500 per school x 40 sites) $60,000
Additional Support—Startup costs— Uniforms ($1,000 per school x 40 sites) $40,000
Additional Support—Startup costs— Equipment (3 years x 2 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $40,000

These numbers don't even add up correctly? (Ex. Bocce-Startup costs-Balls, 3 years x 2 x $145 per school x 40 sites is $34,800, not $11,600). I used the video of how MCPS paid for bocce ball to calculate what is a more likely "start-up cost".

$40 per bocce ball set x 1 set x 40 sites x 3 years = a maximum of $4,800
https://www.amazon.com/GoSports-Backyard-Pallino-Measuring-Choose/dp/B07CMKBW26/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2GCV38HPGCHSL&keywords=bocce%2Bball&qid=1652397607&sprefix=bocce%2Bball%2Caps%2C58&sr=8-5&th=1

$40 per bocce ball team shirt (uniform) x 40 schools x 10 players = a maximum of $16K
https://www.mylocker.net/sports-teams/bocce-ball/product-908?color_id=9002&top=Your%20Text&bottom=Bocce%20Ball&yearcombo=2022&name=Your%20Name&number=00&design_id=0&photo=0&isUploaded=0&fc1=EEEEEE&fc2=000000

The video shows how MCPS plays bocce ball, I don't know what startup costs would be? They're using the gym and a bunch of pvc pipes or traffic cones. An official bocce ball court is 86.92 feet long and 13.12 feet wide. It looks like MCPS was using PVC pipe (not sure why they're not using 2x4's?), but lets stick with PVC pipes since they're more expensive. PVC around the entire court would be (86.92 x 2) + (13.12 x 2) or 200' of PVC pipe at $50 per 10' of pipe is $1K.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/JM-eagle-3-in-x-10-ft-PVC-Schedule-40-DWV-Plain-End-Pipe-531095/100161921

6 Traffic cones are about $150 x 40 schools = a maximum of $6K
https://www.amazon.com/Reliancer-Reflective-Fluorescent-Construction-Improvement/dp/B07PY757L8/ref=sxin_14_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?crid=88DMD5IIKVF4&cv_ct_cx=traffic%2Bcones&keywords=traffic%2Bcones&pd_rd_i=B07PY757L8&pd_rd_r=0a14f226-6e72-4e22-9ce6-6ceb6f29c0f4&pd_rd_w=P3SEK&pd_rd_wg=GMIht&pf_rd_p=9dca4024-3e25-44da-8740-13759fcb9369&pf_rd_r=1MYZVGDDC31QZBJKTS4F&qid=1652398265&sprefix=traffic%2Bcones%2Caps%2C60&sr=1-2-a73d1c8c-2fd2-4f19-aa41-2df022bcb241-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzNjZKSkRMVEdBS0pTJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODQ0MjM2M0VKTEFLVEtYVk1HRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODAyNzU5MjZGSkRSTFhSNk0wJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3Bfc2VhcmNoX3RoZW1hdGljJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

All this together is $27,800, and I would agree that it's a reasonable program to fund at this cost. I just can't figure out where the other $169,200 went?

As far as I can tell, in total this program should cost around $449,945? So what happened to the other $637,455? Anyone?

There were a lot of juicy items in the ESSER III Final that I have even more questions about. Now I'm even more curious about those as well?


Not clear why there is a Bocce obsession? It is an interscholastic sport for a combined team of able and disabled students. They want a stipend for the team coaches. They need to pay the referees so they come to games. Do you complain this much about spending on other interscholastic sports??


I thank the PP for posting. There’s a lot of money not accounted for. Misuse of government funds is a crime so MCPS should be explaining the huge discrepancies in the accounting for the program.

They already have a criminal investigation into the spending in the MCPS Transportation Department. Why should A MCPS Athletics program not follow the same scrutiny?

what money's not accounted for?


The money is all accounted for but the PP just likes making these allegations. The point is to bring about political change at the local level like in VA by sewing discontent.
Anonymous
You sound really paranoid. If MCPS did nothing wrong, then why are they not releasing details about Kid Museum or the bocce ball programs? Why are teachers leaving for lack of support?

Yes, I do believe there is a discrepancy in the amounts spent, and no, MCPS does not publish how this money was spent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:First let me say I have nothing against bocce ball and glad kids are playing it. However, I do have a problem with MCPS spending $1,087,400 on bocce ball?

Pages 28-29 ($527,400)
Bocce—Stipends (3 years x 1 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $145,800
Additional Support—Stipends (3 years x 2 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $291,600
Athletic Coordinator stipend (3 years x $750 x 40 sites) $90,000
Page 35 ($453,000)
Bocce—Officials (3 years x $175 per school x 40 sites) $21,000
Additional Support—Officials (3 years x $350 per school x 40 sites) $42,000
Additional Support—Transportation (3 years x 5 x $650 per school x 40 sites) $390,000

Transportation might make sense ($650 per school game). The labor makes no sense though.

Do you really need to hire bocce ball officials? I learned how to play in three minutes from YouTube, but whatever. Do you really need Bocce-Officials AND Additional Support-Officials AND stipends for Bocce AND stipends for additional support AND a stipend for an Athletic Coordinator? Why MCPS is spending $980,400 for labor to play bocce ball that could be done as part of PE? I don't know.

A MCPS Athletic Coordinator (NTE 100 hours, 3C36) cost $2,715. Over 3 years that's $8,145. Why is MCPS paying $90,000? No idea. A Bocce (Co-ed) (Corollary) (3B11) cost $1,725. Over three years that's $5,175. Even if I have two people at each of the 40 schools, that's $414,000 ($422,145 with the Coordinator). That's still less than half of what MCPS requested, so where did the other $558,255 go?

Page 40 ($197,000)
Bocce—Balls (3 years x 1 x $145 per school x 40 sites) $17,400
Bocce—Startup costs—Courts (3 years x 2 x $350 per school x 40 sites) $28,000
Bocce—Startup costs—Balls (3 years x 2 x $145 per school x 40 sites) $11,600
Additional Support—Equipment (3 years x $500 per school x 40 sites) $60,000
Additional Support—Startup costs— Uniforms ($1,000 per school x 40 sites) $40,000
Additional Support—Startup costs— Equipment (3 years x 2 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $40,000

These numbers don't even add up correctly? (Ex. Bocce-Startup costs-Balls, 3 years x 2 x $145 per school x 40 sites is $34,800, not $11,600). I used the video of how MCPS paid for bocce ball to calculate what is a more likely "start-up cost".

$40 per bocce ball set x 1 set x 40 sites x 3 years = a maximum of $4,800
https://www.amazon.com/GoSports-Backyard-Pallino-Measuring-Choose/dp/B07CMKBW26/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2GCV38HPGCHSL&keywords=bocce%2Bball&qid=1652397607&sprefix=bocce%2Bball%2Caps%2C58&sr=8-5&th=1

$40 per bocce ball team shirt (uniform) x 40 schools x 10 players = a maximum of $16K
https://www.mylocker.net/sports-teams/bocce-ball/product-908?color_id=9002&top=Your%20Text&bottom=Bocce%20Ball&yearcombo=2022&name=Your%20Name&number=00&design_id=0&photo=0&isUploaded=0&fc1=EEEEEE&fc2=000000

The video shows how MCPS plays bocce ball, I don't know what startup costs would be? They're using the gym and a bunch of pvc pipes or traffic cones. An official bocce ball court is 86.92 feet long and 13.12 feet wide. It looks like MCPS was using PVC pipe (not sure why they're not using 2x4's?), but lets stick with PVC pipes since they're more expensive. PVC around the entire court would be (86.92 x 2) + (13.12 x 2) or 200' of PVC pipe at $50 per 10' of pipe is $1K.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/JM-eagle-3-in-x-10-ft-PVC-Schedule-40-DWV-Plain-End-Pipe-531095/100161921

6 Traffic cones are about $150 x 40 schools = a maximum of $6K
https://www.amazon.com/Reliancer-Reflective-Fluorescent-Construction-Improvement/dp/B07PY757L8/ref=sxin_14_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?crid=88DMD5IIKVF4&cv_ct_cx=traffic%2Bcones&keywords=traffic%2Bcones&pd_rd_i=B07PY757L8&pd_rd_r=0a14f226-6e72-4e22-9ce6-6ceb6f29c0f4&pd_rd_w=P3SEK&pd_rd_wg=GMIht&pf_rd_p=9dca4024-3e25-44da-8740-13759fcb9369&pf_rd_r=1MYZVGDDC31QZBJKTS4F&qid=1652398265&sprefix=traffic%2Bcones%2Caps%2C60&sr=1-2-a73d1c8c-2fd2-4f19-aa41-2df022bcb241-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzNjZKSkRMVEdBS0pTJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODQ0MjM2M0VKTEFLVEtYVk1HRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODAyNzU5MjZGSkRSTFhSNk0wJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3Bfc2VhcmNoX3RoZW1hdGljJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

All this together is $27,800, and I would agree that it's a reasonable program to fund at this cost. I just can't figure out where the other $169,200 went?

As far as I can tell, in total this program should cost around $449,945? So what happened to the other $637,455? Anyone?

There were a lot of juicy items in the ESSER III Final that I have even more questions about. Now I'm even more curious about those as well?


Not clear why there is a Bocce obsession? It is an interscholastic sport for a combined team of able and disabled students. They want a stipend for the team coaches. They need to pay the referees so they come to games. Do you complain this much about spending on other interscholastic sports??


I thank the PP for posting. There’s a lot of money not accounted for. Misuse of government funds is a crime so MCPS should be explaining the huge discrepancies in the accounting for the program.

They already have a criminal investigation into the spending in the MCPS Transportation Department. Why should A MCPS Athletics program not follow the same scrutiny?

what money's not accounted for?


The money is all accounted for but the PP just likes making these allegations. The point is to bring about political change at the local level like in VA by sewing discontent.


I hope you don't work for the MCPS central office or board of education. This would explain why MCPS is an idiocracy.
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