KID Museum moving to Bethesda Metro?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DP. How many kids went to Kid Museum? A handful? $2M would have helped provide classroom supports for teachers. Now teachers are quitting.

Smear? To smear it has to be a false statement, right? She signed the ESSER III application herself. THIS IS COVID MONEY!!!

Please explain it, in detail how this is not illegal? I'm all ears.


Doesn't this help with all the mental health issues?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Since this thread was supposed to be about Kid Museum -

How many kids attended?
Which schools were they from?
For how long did they attend and how many times?
What did you get that was better than the $40 admission fee?


Let’s go back to Kid museum.

Since the new superintendent is officially on her job this week, I hope she can check this corrupted deal which drains money from MCPS but had little interest to service the needy students in MCPS. I assume rent near Bethesda Metro is the most expansive which is what MCPS helps them to pay.


It's corrupt because you don't like the kid museum or do you just like to pretend everything that doesn't benefit you personally as corrupt?


Yes, the PP has no evidence to support their allegations. It's just a way to smear people and stir up grievance which is the goal of the paid right-wing posters.


I'm not right-wing, nor do I think this project is corrupt, but, I question whether it is a good use of $. How many MCPS students will get to take field trips here? We have a city of free museums. Why not use the $ they are giving to kids museums to help fund transportation costs to the already funded, free museums? MCPS does not have enough buses for schools to use them for field trips. Schools are still going to. have to rent buses to get kids to the Kids museum. How many schools are within walking distance of the Kids museum? Bethesda Chevy Chase HS?


I'm personally tired of the non-stop complaining about these non-issues. I don't care about the KID Museum one way or the other. Things that matter to me are expanding magnet opportunities, improving the curriculum for K-8, improving teacher morale, and reducing the amount of standardized testing. If McKnight can address 3-4 of these issues even, she'd be the best super ever.


YES!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DP. How many kids went to Kid Museum? A handful? $2M would have helped provide classroom supports for teachers. Now teachers are quitting.

Smear? To smear it has to be a false statement, right? She signed the ESSER III application herself. THIS IS COVID MONEY!!!

Please explain it, in detail how this is not illegal? I'm all ears.


There is a very long and extremely wide-ranging list of the allowable uses of funds:

(e) USES OF FUNDS. —A local educational agency that receives funds under this section—
(1) shall reserve not less than 20 percent of such funds to address learning loss through the
implementation of evidence-based interventions, such as summer learning or summer
enrichment, extended day, comprehensive afterschool programs, or extended school year
programs, and ensure that such interventions respond to students’ academic, social, and
emotional needs and address the disproportionate impact of the coronavirus on the student
subgroups described in section 1111(b)(2)(B)(xi) of the Elementary and Secondary Education
Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 6311(b)(2)(B)(xi)), students experiencing homelessness, and children
and youth in foster care; and
(2) shall use the remaining funds for any of the following:
(A) Any activity authorized by the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965.
(B) Any activity authorized by the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act.
(C) Any activity authorized by the Adult Education and Family Literacy Act.
(D) Any activity authorized by the Carl D. Perkins Career and Technical Education Act of
2006.
(E) Coordination of preparedness and response efforts of local educational agencies with
State, local, Tribal, and territorial public health departments, and other relevant agencies, to
improve coordinated responses among such entities to prevent, prepare for, and respond to
coronavirus.
(F) Activities to address the unique needs of low-income children or students, children with
disabilities, English learners, racial and ethnic minorities, students experiencing homelessness,
and foster care youth, including how outreach and service delivery will meet the needs of each
population.
(G) Developing and implementing procedures and systems to improve the preparedness and
response efforts of local educational agencies.
(H) Training and professional development for staff of the local educational agency on
sanitation and minimizing the spread of infectious diseases.
(I) Purchasing supplies to sanitize and clean the facilities of a local educational agency,
including buildings operated by such agency.
(J) Planning for, coordinating, and implementing activities during long-term closures, including
providing meals to eligible students, providing technology for online learning to all students,
providing guidance for carrying out requirements under the Individuals with Disabilities
Education Act and ensuring other educational services can continue to be provided consistent
with all Federal, State, and local requirements.
(K) Purchasing educational technology (including hardware, software, and connectivity) for
students who are served by the local educational agency that aids in regular and substantive
educational interaction between students and their classroom instructors, including low-income
students and children with disabilities, which may include assistive technology or adaptive
equipment.
(L) Providing mental health services and supports, including through the implementation of
evidence-based full-service community schools.
(M) Planning and implementing activities related to summer learning and supplemental
afterschool programs, including providing classroom instruction or online learning during the
summer months and addressing the needs of low-income students, children with disabilities,
English learners, migrant students, students experiencing homelessness, and children in foster
care.
(N) Addressing learning loss among students, including low-income students, children with
disabilities, English learners, racial and ethnic minorities, students experiencing homelessness,
and children and youth in foster care, of the local educational agency, including by—
(i) administering and using high-quality assessments that are valid and reliable, to
accurately assess students’ academic progress and assist educators in meeting students’ academic
needs, including through differentiating instruction;
(ii) implementing evidence-based activities to meet the comprehensive needs of students;
(iii) providing information and assistance to parents and families on how they can
effectively support students, including in a distance learning environment; and
(iv) tracking student attendance and improving student engagement in distance education.
(O) School facility repairs and improvements to enable operation of schools to reduce risk
of virus transmission and exposure to environmental health hazards, and to support student
health needs.
(P) Inspection, testing, maintenance, repair, replacement, and upgrade projects to improve
the indoor air quality in school facilities, including mechanical and non-mechanical heating,
ventilation, and air conditioning systems, filtering, purification and other air cleaning, fans,
control systems, and window and door repair and replacement.
(Q) Developing strategies and implementing public health protocols including, to the
greatest extent practicable, policies in line with guidance from the Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention for the reopening and operation of school facilities to effectively maintain the
health and safety of students, educators, and other staff.
(R) Other activities that are necessary to maintain the operation of and continuity of services
in local educational agencies and continuing to employ existing staff of the local educational
agency.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP. How many kids went to Kid Museum? A handful? $2M would have helped provide classroom supports for teachers. Now teachers are quitting.

Smear? To smear it has to be a false statement, right? She signed the ESSER III application herself. THIS IS COVID MONEY!!!

Please explain it, in detail how this is not illegal? I'm all ears.


Doesn't this help with all the mental health issues?


It does and my kids really enjoyed their recent field trip there!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP. How many kids went to Kid Museum? A handful? $2M would have helped provide classroom supports for teachers. Now teachers are quitting.

Smear? To smear it has to be a false statement, right? She signed the ESSER III application herself. THIS IS COVID MONEY!!!

Please explain it, in detail how this is not illegal? I'm all ears.


Doesn't this help with all the mental health issues?


It does and my kids really enjoyed their recent field trip there!


Glad a trip to the kid museum cured your child of mental illness, but doesn't explain what happened to the other 1.99999 million dollars?

If you take a look at the MCPS video for bocce ball, they're doing it in a gym, with traffic cones or PVC tubes with cheap bocce ball sets. According to the ESSER fund application, there was about 3/4 of a mil spent on it? Looks more like under $1K to me?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/mainstory/story/352231/Bocce-Ball/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since this thread was supposed to be about Kid Museum -

How many kids attended?
Which schools were they from?
For how long did they attend and how many times?
What did you get that was better than the $40 admission fee?


Let’s go back to Kid museum.

Since the new superintendent is officially on her job this week, I hope she can check this corrupted deal which drains money from MCPS but had little interest to service the needy students in MCPS. I assume rent near Bethesda Metro is the most expansive which is what MCPS helps them to pay.


It's corrupt because you don't like the kid museum or do you just like to pretend everything that doesn't benefit you personally as corrupt?


Yes, the PP has no evidence to support their allegations. It's just a way to smear people and stir up grievance which is the goal of the paid right-wing posters.


I'm not right-wing, nor do I think this project is corrupt, but, I question whether it is a good use of $. How many MCPS students will get to take field trips here? We have a city of free museums. Why not use the $ they are giving to kids museums to help fund transportation costs to the already funded, free museums? MCPS does not have enough buses for schools to use them for field trips. Schools are still going to. have to rent buses to get kids to the Kids museum. How many schools are within walking distance of the Kids museum? Bethesda Chevy Chase HS?


I'm personally tired of the non-stop complaining about these non-issues. I don't care about the KID Museum one way or the other. Things that matter to me are expanding magnet opportunities, improving the curriculum for K-8, improving teacher morale, and reducing the amount of standardized testing. If McKnight can address 3-4 of these issues even, she'd be the best super ever.


YES!


None of those things are a priority. BOE member's wife's business is a priority. Get used to it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP. How many kids went to Kid Museum? A handful? $2M would have helped provide classroom supports for teachers. Now teachers are quitting.

Smear? To smear it has to be a false statement, right? She signed the ESSER III application herself. THIS IS COVID MONEY!!!

Please explain it, in detail how this is not illegal? I'm all ears.


Doesn't this help with all the mental health issues?


It does and my kids really enjoyed their recent field trip there!


Our school also went there recently it was also very memorable. My kids are even asking to take them back!
Anonymous
First let me say I have nothing against bocce ball and glad kids are playing it. However, I do have a problem with MCPS spending $1,087,400 on bocce ball?

Pages 28-29 ($527,400)
Bocce—Stipends (3 years x 1 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $145,800
Additional Support—Stipends (3 years x 2 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $291,600
Athletic Coordinator stipend (3 years x $750 x 40 sites) $90,000
Page 35 ($453,000)
Bocce—Officials (3 years x $175 per school x 40 sites) $21,000
Additional Support—Officials (3 years x $350 per school x 40 sites) $42,000
Additional Support—Transportation (3 years x 5 x $650 per school x 40 sites) $390,000

Transportation might make sense ($650 per school game). The labor makes no sense though.

Do you really need to hire bocce ball officials? I learned how to play in three minutes from YouTube, but whatever. Do you really need Bocce-Officials AND Additional Support-Officials AND stipends for Bocce AND stipends for additional support AND a stipend for an Athletic Coordinator? Why MCPS is spending $980,400 for labor to play bocce ball that could be done as part of PE? I don't know.

A MCPS Athletic Coordinator (NTE 100 hours, 3C36) cost $2,715. Over 3 years that's $8,145. Why is MCPS paying $90,000? No idea. A Bocce (Co-ed) (Corollary) (3B11) cost $1,725. Over three years that's $5,175. Even if I have two people at each of the 40 schools, that's $414,000 ($422,145 with the Coordinator). That's still less than half of what MCPS requested, so where did the other $558,255 go?

Page 40 ($197,000)
Bocce—Balls (3 years x 1 x $145 per school x 40 sites) $17,400
Bocce—Startup costs—Courts (3 years x 2 x $350 per school x 40 sites) $28,000
Bocce—Startup costs—Balls (3 years x 2 x $145 per school x 40 sites) $11,600
Additional Support—Equipment (3 years x $500 per school x 40 sites) $60,000
Additional Support—Startup costs— Uniforms ($1,000 per school x 40 sites) $40,000
Additional Support—Startup costs— Equipment (3 years x 2 x $1,215 per school x 40 sites) $40,000

These numbers don't even add up correctly? (Ex. Bocce-Startup costs-Balls, 3 years x 2 x $145 per school x 40 sites is $34,800, not $11,600). I used the video of how MCPS paid for bocce ball to calculate what is a more likely "start-up cost".

$40 per bocce ball set x 1 set x 40 sites x 3 years = a maximum of $4,800
https://www.amazon.com/GoSports-Backyard-Pallino-Measuring-Choose/dp/B07CMKBW26/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2GCV38HPGCHSL&keywords=bocce%2Bball&qid=1652397607&sprefix=bocce%2Bball%2Caps%2C58&sr=8-5&th=1

$40 per bocce ball team shirt (uniform) x 40 schools x 10 players = a maximum of $16K
https://www.mylocker.net/sports-teams/bocce-ball/product-908?color_id=9002&top=Your%20Text&bottom=Bocce%20Ball&yearcombo=2022&name=Your%20Name&number=00&design_id=0&photo=0&isUploaded=0&fc1=EEEEEE&fc2=000000

The video shows how MCPS plays bocce ball, I don't know what startup costs would be? They're using the gym and a bunch of pvc pipes or traffic cones. An official bocce ball court is 86.92 feet long and 13.12 feet wide. It looks like MCPS was using PVC pipe (not sure why they're not using 2x4's?), but lets stick with PVC pipes since they're more expensive. PVC around the entire court would be (86.92 x 2) + (13.12 x 2) or 200' of PVC pipe at $50 per 10' of pipe is $1K.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/JM-eagle-3-in-x-10-ft-PVC-Schedule-40-DWV-Plain-End-Pipe-531095/100161921

6 Traffic cones are about $150 x 40 schools = a maximum of $6K
https://www.amazon.com/Reliancer-Reflective-Fluorescent-Construction-Improvement/dp/B07PY757L8/ref=sxin_14_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?crid=88DMD5IIKVF4&cv_ct_cx=traffic%2Bcones&keywords=traffic%2Bcones&pd_rd_i=B07PY757L8&pd_rd_r=0a14f226-6e72-4e22-9ce6-6ceb6f29c0f4&pd_rd_w=P3SEK&pd_rd_wg=GMIht&pf_rd_p=9dca4024-3e25-44da-8740-13759fcb9369&pf_rd_r=1MYZVGDDC31QZBJKTS4F&qid=1652398265&sprefix=traffic%2Bcones%2Caps%2C60&sr=1-2-a73d1c8c-2fd2-4f19-aa41-2df022bcb241-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzNjZKSkRMVEdBS0pTJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODQ0MjM2M0VKTEFLVEtYVk1HRCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODAyNzU5MjZGSkRSTFhSNk0wJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3Bfc2VhcmNoX3RoZW1hdGljJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

All this together is $27,800, and I would agree that it's a reasonable program to fund at this cost. I just can't figure out where the other $169,200 went?

As far as I can tell, in total this program should cost around $449,945? So what happened to the other $637,455? Anyone?

There were a lot of juicy items in the ESSER III Final that I have even more questions about. Now I'm even more curious about those as well?
Anonymous
^^ I used the video of how MCPS paid for bocce ball to calculate what is a more likely "start-up cost".

Should read "I watched how MCPS played bocce ball in their video to calculate a more likely "start-up cost""
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP. How many kids went to Kid Museum? A handful? $2M would have helped provide classroom supports for teachers. Now teachers are quitting.

Smear? To smear it has to be a false statement, right? She signed the ESSER III application herself. THIS IS COVID MONEY!!!

Please explain it, in detail how this is not illegal? I'm all ears.


Doesn't this help with all the mental health issues?


It does and my kids really enjoyed their recent field trip there!


Glad a trip to the kid museum cured your child of mental illness, but doesn't explain what happened to the other 1.99999 million dollars?

If you take a look at the MCPS video for bocce ball, they're doing it in a gym, with traffic cones or PVC tubes with cheap bocce ball sets. According to the ESSER fund application, there was about 3/4 of a mil spent on it? Looks more like under $1K to me?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/mainstory/story/352231/Bocce-Ball/


At least they could have handed out cones and bocce ball sets to the kids doing virtual. Its pathetic that two years later they haven't come up with a better PE curriculum and the kids have to fake playing sports to pass the class.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP. How many kids went to Kid Museum? A handful? $2M would have helped provide classroom supports for teachers. Now teachers are quitting.

Smear? To smear it has to be a false statement, right? She signed the ESSER III application herself. THIS IS COVID MONEY!!!

Please explain it, in detail how this is not illegal? I'm all ears.


Doesn't this help with all the mental health issues?


It does and my kids really enjoyed their recent field trip there!


Our school also went there recently it was also very memorable. My kids are even asking to take them back!


We have a field trip planned for there next week and can't wait!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP. How many kids went to Kid Museum? A handful? $2M would have helped provide classroom supports for teachers. Now teachers are quitting.

Smear? To smear it has to be a false statement, right? She signed the ESSER III application herself. THIS IS COVID MONEY!!!

Please explain it, in detail how this is not illegal? I'm all ears.


Doesn't this help with all the mental health issues?


It does and my kids really enjoyed their recent field trip there!


Our school also went there recently it was also very memorable. My kids are even asking to take them back!


We have a field trip planned for there next week and can't wait!


Which school? How many kids (was it the entire school)? What was different between that and regular admission? How long was the field trip?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP. How many kids went to Kid Museum? A handful? $2M would have helped provide classroom supports for teachers. Now teachers are quitting.

Smear? To smear it has to be a false statement, right? She signed the ESSER III application herself. THIS IS COVID MONEY!!!

Please explain it, in detail how this is not illegal? I'm all ears.


Doesn't this help with all the mental health issues?


It does and my kids really enjoyed their recent field trip there!


Our school also went there recently it was also very memorable. My kids are even asking to take them back!


We have a field trip planned for there next week and can't wait!


Which school? How many kids (was it the entire school)? What was different between that and regular admission? How long was the field trip?


It was around 90 kids and I don't know the specifics about admission but the kids seemed to have a great time
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP. How many kids went to Kid Museum? A handful? $2M would have helped provide classroom supports for teachers. Now teachers are quitting.

Smear? To smear it has to be a false statement, right? She signed the ESSER III application herself. THIS IS COVID MONEY!!!

Please explain it, in detail how this is not illegal? I'm all ears.


Doesn't this help with all the mental health issues?


It does and my kids really enjoyed their recent field trip there!


Our school also went there recently it was also very memorable. My kids are even asking to take them back!


We have a field trip planned for there next week and can't wait!


Which school? How many kids (was it the entire school)? What was different between that and regular admission? How long was the field trip?


It was around 90 kids and I don't know the specifics about admission but the kids seemed to have a great time


You didn't answer the questions. What school was it? What was different from regular admission?

MCPS paid $2M for 90 kids to go to something they can do themselves? I heard $1M may have been added above that? Why would someone need to do that? How was that money spent? An annual admission price is $40. What's the value or difference between what MCPS did and just buying every Middle Schooler a $40 admission so they can go with their parents? MCPS has no justification for doing this.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP. How many kids went to Kid Museum? A handful? $2M would have helped provide classroom supports for teachers. Now teachers are quitting.

Smear? To smear it has to be a false statement, right? She signed the ESSER III application herself. THIS IS COVID MONEY!!!

Please explain it, in detail how this is not illegal? I'm all ears.


Doesn't this help with all the mental health issues?


It does and my kids really enjoyed their recent field trip there!


Our school also went there recently it was also very memorable. My kids are even asking to take them back!


We have a field trip planned for there next week and can't wait!


Which school? How many kids (was it the entire school)? What was different between that and regular admission? How long was the field trip?


It was around 90 kids and I don't know the specifics about admission but the kids seemed to have a great time


You didn't answer the questions. What school was it? What was different from regular admission?
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MCPS paid $2M for 90 kids to go to something they can do themselves? I heard $1M may have been added above that? Why would someone need to do that? How was that money spent? An annual admission price is $40. What's the value or difference between what MCPS did and just buying every Middle Schooler a $40 admission so they can go with their parents? MCPS has no justification for doing this.


Those kids still pay admission too.
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