Another Black Eye for Penn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is she perpetually made to seem “homeless” when she was apparently receiving large financial aid refunds every semester for housing, expenses and food? Do the people she’s mooching from not understand this? Has nobody asked her to get a job?

Where was that stated?

The article points to her having nowhere to stay when campus housing was closed - holidays and during COVID. Where should have stayed when campus housing was shut down?

This leads me to believe she relies on people being too to gullible know how financial aid works. Full ride at a rich Ivy League college means you get the entire cost of attendance (COA) minus tuition and fees refunded to you each semester. Was she living in a dorm all 4 years? Most students at Penn move off campus. Why would an apartment be “closed” during holidays? And why make her sound totally hopeless when she was street smart enough to study abroad on the college’s dime too? None of this adds up, like she’s a really spoiled girl used to playing a professional victim to get over there on people. She probably thinks she’s the smartest in the room and she’s cute so she’s always successful in getting what she wants.

[Anonymous]

Professional victim. Bingo. It's a polished performance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is she perpetually made to seem “homeless” when she was apparently receiving large financial aid refunds every semester for housing, expenses and food? Do the people she’s mooching from not understand this? Has nobody asked her to get a job?

Where was that stated?

The article points to her having nowhere to stay when campus housing was closed - holidays and during COVID. Where should have stayed when campus housing was shut down?

This leads me to believe she relies on people being too to gullible know how financial aid works. Full ride at a rich Ivy League college means you get the entire cost of attendance (COA) minus tuition and fees refunded to you each semester. Was she living in a dorm all 4 years? Most students at Penn move off campus. Why would an apartment be “closed” during holidays? And why make her sound totally hopeless when she was street smart enough to study abroad on the college’s dime too? None of this adds up, like she’s a really spoiled girl used to playing a professional victim to get over there on people. She probably thinks she’s the smartest in the room and she’s cute so she’s always successful in getting what she wants.

So you’re just inventing things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I trust the New Yorker’s reporting over the self interested, bullying, PR techniques used by the university of Pennsylvania

I’m not a schemer... some nonprofit hack at Questbridge says so. I’m not lying... some hack at New Yorker whipped up a narrative for me. I’m a good person... look at the couple of suckers I orbited at Penn who say so. Or... we can all look at the hard facts and evidence and a documented pattern of conniving mooch behavior over the last decade.

— I think we found the disgruntled father whose kid didn’t get into Penn

I’m a mother and none of my kids applied to Penn. I just feel sorry for the actual poor kids who had aid and opportunities reserved for them intercepted by a rich white gal pretending to be disadvantaged, poor and first gen. How many actual poor kids and non-white kids are these rich professors inviting to live in their home for free and pay for their grad school? The answer is zero, of course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Professional victim. Bingo. It's a polished performance.

Note whenever that quote about her submitting financial aid forms claiming to be de facto guardian of her special needs sister is posted there’s a flurry of posts to bury it to a previous page. Because there is no explanation. It’s fraud.

[Anonymous]

You aren't allowed to criticize Mackenzie Fierceton's story.

If you do, then one or more of the following applies:
1. You don't know what you are talking about, but if you do, then why do you care so much?
2. You have an axe to grind, but if you don't, then why do you care so much?
3. You can't point to anything she did wrong, but if you can, then why do you care so much?

It's a perfectly closed circle. There is no way to criticize this rank netting of a narrative correctly, according to those defending her here. That's interesting, in and of itself.

[Anonymous]

Why did she delete her Twitter? Why did she gleefully retweet articles she claimed in retrospect were full of falsehoods? Why did she change her last name? Why did she claim she was taking care of her father’s daughter?

[Anonymous]

Boy - the pro-Penn brigade is out in force.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Professional victim. Bingo. It's a polished performance.

Note whenever that quote about her submitting financial aid forms claiming to be de facto guardian of her special needs sister is posted there’s a flurry of posts to bury it to a previous page. Because there is no explanation. It’s fraud.

Right. I think there was one post claiming it was because she maybe got a "bit melodramatic."

I remember signing attestations to the fact that my financial aid application was true to the best of my knowledge, and it would be a felony to lie. I missed the part about "unless you are feeling a bit melodramatic tonight, woo-hoo!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Boy - the pro-Penn brigade is out in force.

Right.

"Why do you care so much, guys?"

No substantive responses. It's a closed circle, all right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You aren't allowed to criticize Mackenzie Fierceton's story.

If you do, then one or more of the following applies:
1. You don't know what you are talking about, but if you do, then why do you care so much?
2. You have an axe to grind, but if you don't, then why do you care so much?
3. You can't point to anything she did wrong, but if you can, then why do you care so much?

It's a perfectly closed circle. There is no way to criticize this rank netting of a narrative correctly, according to those defending her here. That's interesting, in and of itself.

And when you’re telling the full truth and nothing but the truth and have nothing to hide you let crocodile tears flow to shut down Zoom conversation. Then later claim it was an ambush! Because everyone knows Ivy League schools are just itching to take down one of their Rhodes Scholars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You aren't allowed to criticize Mackenzie Fierceton's story.

If you do, then one or more of the following applies:
1. You don't know what you are talking about, but if you do, then why do you care so much?
2. You have an axe to grind, but if you don't, then why do you care so much?
3. You can't point to anything she did wrong, but if you can, then why do you care so much?

It's a perfectly closed circle. There is no way to criticize this rank netting of a narrative correctly, according to those defending her here. That's interesting, in and of itself.

Oh please. As someone who had never heard of the story before this week and didn’t participate in prior threads I have to say that the people who seem completely closed off and intent on shutting down conversation are the ones saying she is a con artist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Professional victim. Bingo. It's a polished performance.

Note whenever that quote about her submitting financial aid forms claiming to be de facto guardian of her special needs sister is posted there’s a flurry of posts to bury it to a previous page. Because there is no explanation. It’s fraud.

Right. I think there was one post claiming it was because she maybe got a "bit melodramatic."

I remember signing attestations to the fact that my financial aid application was true to the best of my knowledge, and it would be a felony to lie. I missed the part about "unless you are feeling a bit melodramatic tonight, woo-hoo!"

And trying to conflate it with admissions (essays/narrative). No sweetie, these are financial forms after matriculation. Fraud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You aren't allowed to criticize Mackenzie Fierceton's story.

If you do, then one or more of the following applies:
1. You don't know what you are talking about, but if you do, then why do you care so much?
2. You have an axe to grind, but if you don't, then why do you care so much?
3. You can't point to anything she did wrong, but if you can, then why do you care so much?

It's a perfectly closed circle. There is no way to criticize this rank netting of a narrative correctly, according to those defending her here. That's interesting, in and of itself.

Oh please. As someone who had never heard of the story before this week and didn’t participate in prior threads I have to say that the people who seem completely closed off and intent on shutting down conversation are the ones saying she is a con artist.

+1 it’s clear why the prior threads were locked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You aren't allowed to criticize Mackenzie Fierceton's story.

If you do, then one or more of the following applies:
1. You don't know what you are talking about, but if you do, then why do you care so much?
2. You have an axe to grind, but if you don't, then why do you care so much?
3. You can't point to anything she did wrong, but if you can, then why do you care so much?

It's a perfectly closed circle. There is no way to criticize this rank netting of a narrative correctly, according to those defending her here. That's interesting, in and of itself.

Oh please. As someone who had never heard of the story before this week and didn’t participate in prior threads I have to say that the people who seem completely closed off and intent on shutting down conversation are the ones saying she is a con artist.

You might try reading the other threads before passing judgement on whether other posters here are familiar with what is going on.

You also might try reading more of DCUM if you are surprised that people will post for pages after pages on something that seems irrelevant to their own lives. It's kind of the raison d'être for the site. No need to resort to conspiracy theories.