Another Black Eye for Penn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has been covered already

New article has not been covered.

Thread started when the NYer article was published

How UPenn Turned Against It’s Student
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1047269.page

[Anonymous]

So students over 18 can have medical issues and the school has no responsibility to tell their parents and can cite privacy concerns. But in this instance we have an over 18 year old student and the school provides copies of her essay to her mother (for various legal proceedings of the mother is pursuing) and that isn’t a privacy violation? And the school’s general counsel carries on conversations with the mother of an over 18-year-old student, and describes discussions that happen with student and faculty members and that is also not a privacy issue?

[Anonymous]

I read the article and still do not understand why her MSW is being withheld? At the simplest level - is it a the claim of code of conduct violation because she misrepresented herself?

Has Penn changed their definition of first generation?

[Anonymous]

Are we going to re-litigate this whole subject again? Two threads on this very same topic have already been locked.

[Anonymous]

While there are questionable actions about this UPenn issue, I guarantee admission applications will not suffer especially to Wharton.

[Anonymous]

People will still be applying in droves and none will care about the schools terrible actions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People will still be applying in droves and none will care about the schools terrible actions.

Yes, people will often look the other way on awful abuse when it is convenient to their own interests to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So students over 18 can have medical issues and the school has no responsibility to tell their parents and can cite privacy concerns. But in this instance we have an over 18 year old student and the school provides copies of her essay to her mother (for various legal proceedings of the mother is pursuing) and that isn’t a privacy violation? And the school’s general counsel carries on conversations with the mother of an over 18-year-old student, and describes discussions that happen with student and faculty members and that is also not a privacy issue?

Exactly what I was thinking. Not only that, but Penn never even notified the student that they were having these conversations. In fact, they lied in their public statement claiming that the investigation was initiated in response to an anonymous e-mail when in fact there was an e-mail from the father of a HS classmate. There was also an anonymous eye-mail from a former classmate, so half truth at best. They then contacted the mother immediately, so that witch was behind her daughter’s destruction from the very beginning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New Yorker article offers a coherent narrative:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/04/04/mackenzie-fierceton-rhodes-scholarship-university-of-pennsylvania

They have an extremely inclusive definition of “first generation college student.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People will still be applying in droves and none will care about the schools terrible actions.

So what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While there are questionable actions about this UPenn issue, I guarantee admission applications will not suffer especially to Wharton.

So what? That’s not the topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a first gen college kid (who only got loans btw) I never understood the claim that she lied about that. You are considered first gen if you do not have college educated parents helping you. That was clearly her situation. It is meant to cast a wide net. I found penn’s actions horrendous before the New Yorker article, and wasn’t at all surprised at what they uncovered. I hope she sues the heck out of penn. All these varsity blue kids and you go after the young woman getting her degree in social work who spent weeks in the hospital after her mother’s care? They need to clean house in their legal dept.

Her mother was a doctor…whether they actually “helped” is irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a first gen college kid (who only got loans btw) I never understood the claim that she lied about that. You are considered first gen if you do not have college educated parents helping you. That was clearly her situation. It is meant to cast a wide net. I found penn’s actions horrendous before the New Yorker article, and wasn’t at all surprised at what they uncovered. I hope she sues the heck out of penn. All these varsity blue kids and you go after the young woman getting her degree in social work who spent weeks in the hospital after her mother’s care? They need to clean house in their legal dept.

Her mother was a doctor…whether they actually “helped” is irrelevant.

It’s not, in fact. And you’d know that if you’d read the article.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are we going to re-litigate this whole subject again? Two threads on this very same topic have already been locked.

You’re free not to participate. Why so anxious to shut it down?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it's about the UMC white girl turned first generation imposter - already know that story.

Penn will be fine. Predict record applications next year.

It is possible to be a UMC (or rather, have upper middle income parents) girl AND be a first-generation strident. That was me, in fact. None of my parents or grandparents have a bachelor’s. My parents were in skilled trades.