Possible AAP changes at ES

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Can a general Ed child take any kind of AP classes in high school? Or do they need to have some pre requisite?

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Anonymous wrote:Shrevewood parents - how is this going? Are you happy with your child's placement?

It's fine. The LLIV kids were definitely split into 2 classes per grade and the rest of the gen ed students were mixed within them and the remaining other classes. What surprised me though, is that it doesn't seem to be the case that the Level III or other stronger students were necessarily those chosen to be mixed into the 2 AAP LLIV classes. Seems like a huge mix of kids across all of the various classes.

Congrats, your kid is back in gen ed. Don't expect they'll progress like the AAP classes at the center.

AAP shouldn’t exist, so this is a good thing.

So you’re fine with dumbing down the curriculum for all? Everyone who says they should just teach advanced materials all kids have no idea how classroom works. The teacher is always going to have to aim for the lowest level, so nobody is left behind. It’s a real loss for the kids who won’t have access to a faster pace under a flat method.

Every parent had the choice to move their child to the AAP center. I call bullshit on anyone complaining now because YOU HAD A CHOICE.

I predict a huge wave of kids transferring to the center next year. The cluster method is a flop.

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Anonymous wrote:Can a general Ed child take any kind of AP classes in high school? Or do they need to have some pre requisite?

In middle school, honors is open enrollment (aap classes still set apart)
In high school, there is no aap and all courses, honors/AP/ib/de are open to anyone who signs up for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Shrevewood parents - how is this going? Are you happy with your child's placement?

It's fine. The LLIV kids were definitely split into 2 classes per grade and the rest of the gen ed students were mixed within them and the remaining other classes. What surprised me though, is that it doesn't seem to be the case that the Level III or other stronger students were necessarily those chosen to be mixed into the 2 AAP LLIV classes. Seems like a huge mix of kids across all of the various classes.

Congrats, your kid is back in gen ed. Don't expect they'll progress like the AAP classes at the center.

AAP shouldn’t exist, so this is a good thing.

So you’re fine with dumbing down the curriculum for all? Everyone who says they should just teach advanced materials all kids have no idea how classroom works. The teacher is always going to have to aim for the lowest level, so nobody is left behind. It’s a real loss for the kids who won’t have access to a faster pace under a flat method.

Every parent had the choice to move their child to the AAP center. I call bullshit on anyone complaining now because YOU HAD A CHOICE.

I predict a huge wave of kids transferring to the center next year. The cluster method is a flop.

We've literally only had one week of school, it's impossible to make this judgement. You need to let it go.

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The worst thing about AAP is that it brings the worst out in patents.

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Anonymous wrote:Shrevewood parents - how is this going? Are you happy with your child's placement?

It's fine. The LLIV kids were definitely split into 2 classes per grade and the rest of the gen ed students were mixed within them and the remaining other classes. What surprised me though, is that it doesn't seem to be the case that the Level III or other stronger students were necessarily those chosen to be mixed into the 2 AAP LLIV classes. Seems like a huge mix of kids across all of the various classes.

The mix has been disappointing. Our level III kid wasn’t placed in one of those AAP classrooms when we had been told they’d have a strong likelihood. From what we hear, many ESOL kids got placed in and AAP parents are upset. This school continues to disappoint.

That's terrible! The reason most people sign up for AAP is to avoid the masses.

Part of the reason we (and a lot of our friends/neighbors) were so supportive of this is because we have such a great, diverse community and our kids all learn from each other. Most people were excited about this change. The ones who weren't switched schools. If PP's child is Level III, then s/he would have been in a class with all the other kids any way, so I'm really not sure why they are complaining. All the other hearsay is just ridiculous. If her kid isn't in one of the two classes that AAP kids were distributed across, then she really doesn't know anything about those classes at all.

Ding, ding, ding!! One mom is jealous that her kid didn't get into one of the other classes so she is trying to stir up trouble.

It’s only a shame she/he was told their Level III DC had a good chance of being in one of those classrooms. Otherwise, a Level III kid doesn’t deserve or shouldn’t expect Level IV treatment.

This is the exact problem with AAP - her child doesn’t “deserve” Level IV treatment?! Are you kidding me? For all you know that student is more qualified than your child but in the randomness that is AAP selection, didn’t get picked. And, even if her child truly isn’t eligible for LIV, they are no less deserving of a quality education and access to appropriate curriculum. It is a crap system that creates an insane amount of inequity in FCPS. There needs to be a way less rigid acceleration system that doesn’t depend on how a student did on the second grade COGAT.

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Anonymous wrote:The worst thing about AAP is that it brings the worst out in patents.

AAP kids are smart but I don't believe they have generated any patents in the program, yet

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Anonymous wrote:Shrevewood parents - how is this going? Are you happy with your child's placement?

It's fine. The LLIV kids were definitely split into 2 classes per grade and the rest of the gen ed students were mixed within them and the remaining other classes. What surprised me though, is that it doesn't seem to be the case that the Level III or other stronger students were necessarily those chosen to be mixed into the 2 AAP LLIV classes. Seems like a huge mix of kids across all of the various classes.

The mix has been disappointing. Our level III kid wasn’t placed in one of those AAP classrooms when we had been told they’d have a strong likelihood. From what we hear, many ESOL kids got placed in and AAP parents are upset. This school continues to disappoint.

That's terrible! The reason most people sign up for AAP is to avoid the masses.

Part of the reason we (and a lot of our friends/neighbors) were so supportive of this is because we have such a great, diverse community and our kids all learn from each other. Most people were excited about this change. The ones who weren't switched schools. If PP's child is Level III, then s/he would have been in a class with all the other kids any way, so I'm really not sure why they are complaining. All the other hearsay is just ridiculous. If her kid isn't in one of the two classes that AAP kids were distributed across, then she really doesn't know anything about those classes at all.

Ding, ding, ding!! One mom is jealous that her kid didn't get into one of the other classes so she is trying to stir up trouble.

It’s only a shame she/he was told their Level III DC had a good chance of being in one of those classrooms. Otherwise, a Level III kid doesn’t deserve or shouldn’t expect Level IV treatment.

This is the exact problem with AAP - her child doesn’t “deserve” Level IV treatment?! Are you kidding me? For all you know that student is more qualified than your child but in the randomness that is AAP selection, didn’t get picked. And, even if her child truly isn’t eligible for LIV, they are no less deserving of a quality education and access to appropriate curriculum. It is a crap system that creates an insane amount of inequity in FCPS. There needs to be a way less rigid acceleration system that doesn’t depend on how a student did on the second grade COGAT.

Precisely what the clustering system is meant to alleviate. I think the school is getting it right. Give ‘em time!

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Anonymous wrote:The worst thing about AAP is that it brings the worst out in patents.

I assume you mean parents and not patents. There is way worse behavior in sports. It's not even comparable. Not everyone is interested in academics in this country just like not everyone is interested in football. That should be obvious. Get over it.

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Anonymous wrote:The worst thing about AAP is that it brings the worst out in patents.

I assume you mean parents and not patents. There is way worse behavior in sports. It's not even comparable. Not everyone is interested in academics in this country just like not everyone is interested in football. That should be obvious. Get over it.

This is the APP forum not the youth sports forum. The parents and you are terrible

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Anonymous wrote:Shrevewood parents - how is this going? Are you happy with your child's placement?

It's fine. The LLIV kids were definitely split into 2 classes per grade and the rest of the gen ed students were mixed within them and the remaining other classes. What surprised me though, is that it doesn't seem to be the case that the Level III or other stronger students were necessarily those chosen to be mixed into the 2 AAP LLIV classes. Seems like a huge mix of kids across all of the various classes.

The mix has been disappointing. Our level III kid wasn’t placed in one of those AAP classrooms when we had been told they’d have a strong likelihood. From what we hear, many ESOL kids got placed in and AAP parents are upset. This school continues to disappoint.

That's terrible! The reason most people sign up for AAP is to avoid the masses.

Part of the reason we (and a lot of our friends/neighbors) were so supportive of this is because we have such a great, diverse community and our kids all learn from each other. Most people were excited about this change. The ones who weren't switched schools. If PP's child is Level III, then s/he would have been in a class with all the other kids any way, so I'm really not sure why they are complaining. All the other hearsay is just ridiculous. If her kid isn't in one of the two classes that AAP kids were distributed across, then she really doesn't know anything about those classes at all.

Ding, ding, ding!! One mom is jealous that her kid didn't get into one of the other classes so she is trying to stir up trouble.

It’s only a shame she/he was told their Level III DC had a good chance of being in one of those classrooms. Otherwise, a Level III kid doesn’t deserve or shouldn’t expect Level IV treatment.

This is the exact problem with AAP - her child doesn’t “deserve” Level IV treatment?! Are you kidding me? For all you know that student is more qualified than your child but in the randomness that is AAP selection, didn’t get picked. And, even if her child truly isn’t eligible for LIV, they are no less deserving of a quality education and access to appropriate curriculum. It is a crap system that creates an insane amount of inequity in FCPS. There needs to be a way less rigid acceleration system that doesn’t depend on how a student did on the second grade COGAT.

What's ridiculous about this whole thing is that the changes were made so that the entire schools is receiving the AAP curriculum. PP's child is receiving the same education as everyone else, Levels I-IV. She has nothing to complain about.

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Anonymous wrote:Shrevewood parents - how is this going? Are you happy with your child's placement?

It's fine. The LLIV kids were definitely split into 2 classes per grade and the rest of the gen ed students were mixed within them and the remaining other classes. What surprised me though, is that it doesn't seem to be the case that the Level III or other stronger students were necessarily those chosen to be mixed into the 2 AAP LLIV classes. Seems like a huge mix of kids across all of the various classes.

The mix has been disappointing. Our level III kid wasn’t placed in one of those AAP classrooms when we had been told they’d have a strong likelihood. From what we hear, many ESOL kids got placed in and AAP parents are upset. This school continues to disappoint.

That's terrible! The reason most people sign up for AAP is to avoid the masses.

Part of the reason we (and a lot of our friends/neighbors) were so supportive of this is because we have such a great, diverse community and our kids all learn from each other. Most people were excited about this change. The ones who weren't switched schools. If PP's child is Level III, then s/he would have been in a class with all the other kids any way, so I'm really not sure why they are complaining. All the other hearsay is just ridiculous. If her kid isn't in one of the two classes that AAP kids were distributed across, then she really doesn't know anything about those classes at all.

Ding, ding, ding!! One mom is jealous that her kid didn't get into one of the other classes so she is trying to stir up trouble.

It’s only a shame she/he was told their Level III DC had a good chance of being in one of those classrooms. Otherwise, a Level III kid doesn’t deserve or shouldn’t expect Level IV treatment.

This is the exact problem with AAP - her child doesn’t “deserve” Level IV treatment?! Are you kidding me? For all you know that student is more qualified than your child but in the randomness that is AAP selection, didn’t get picked. And, even if her child truly isn’t eligible for LIV, they are no less deserving of a quality education and access to appropriate curriculum. It is a crap system that creates an insane amount of inequity in FCPS. There needs to be a way less rigid acceleration system that doesn’t depend on how a student did on the second grade COGAT.

Or the 2nd grade CogAT which was privately administered after an appeal. This stuff is a crazy waste of money.

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Anonymous wrote:Shrevewood parents - how is this going? Are you happy with your child's placement?

It's fine. The LLIV kids were definitely split into 2 classes per grade and the rest of the gen ed students were mixed within them and the remaining other classes. What surprised me though, is that it doesn't seem to be the case that the Level III or other stronger students were necessarily those chosen to be mixed into the 2 AAP LLIV classes. Seems like a huge mix of kids across all of the various classes.

The mix has been disappointing. Our level III kid wasn’t placed in one of those AAP classrooms when we had been told they’d have a strong likelihood. From what we hear, many ESOL kids got placed in and AAP parents are upset. This school continues to disappoint.

That's terrible! The reason most people sign up for AAP is to avoid the masses.

Part of the reason we (and a lot of our friends/neighbors) were so supportive of this is because we have such a great, diverse community and our kids all learn from each other. Most people were excited about this change. The ones who weren't switched schools. If PP's child is Level III, then s/he would have been in a class with all the other kids any way, so I'm really not sure why they are complaining. All the other hearsay is just ridiculous. If her kid isn't in one of the two classes that AAP kids were distributed across, then she really doesn't know anything about those classes at all.

Ding, ding, ding!! One mom is jealous that her kid didn't get into one of the other classes so she is trying to stir up trouble.

It’s only a shame she/he was told their Level III DC had a good chance of being in one of those classrooms. Otherwise, a Level III kid doesn’t deserve or shouldn’t expect Level IV treatment.

This is the exact problem with AAP - her child doesn’t “deserve” Level IV treatment?! Are you kidding me? For all you know that student is more qualified than your child but in the randomness that is AAP selection, didn’t get picked. And, even if her child truly isn’t eligible for LIV, they are no less deserving of a quality education and access to appropriate curriculum. It is a crap system that creates an insane amount of inequity in FCPS. There needs to be a way less rigid acceleration system that doesn’t depend on how a student did on the second grade COGAT.

Or the 2nd grade CogAT which was privately administered after an appeal. This stuff is a crazy waste of money.

AAP seems like it was designed for UMC families that prefer segregated schools.

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Anonymous wrote:The worst thing about AAP is that it brings the worst out in patents.

AAP kids are smart but I don't believe they have generated any patents in the program, yet

To PP: Thank you for the dose of humor. Unexpected and so welcome in my day and in the midst of contentious discussions. Helps me remember the good in people and that life is so much better when we can see (or make) light in the dark areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can a general Ed child take any kind of AP classes in high school? Or do they need to have some pre requisite?

Yes, honors classes are open enrollment and most AP classes are as well (a few have prerequisites but they are courses, not levels--i.e. you must have taken algebra 2 in order to take AP stats, but it doesn't have to be algebra 2 honors)