Possible AAP changes at ES

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Received word of a meeting coming up highlighting some proposed changes to "class placement" for next year. Some of the bulleted items include:

1. Additional classroom for student receiving Level IV services (i.e. a 2nd AAP classroom)
2. Teachers 3-6th provide Level IV curriculum to ALL (yes, it was capitalized)
3. Specific differentiation to groups

the Why? Access and Opportunity to ALL students (again, capitalized)

Our school is local level IV and our child is already in AAP, so it shouldn't affect us. Just wondering if there are other ES's going the same route. I have heard from some parents that there are a multitude of kids designated as "Level III" but the AAP can't accommodate them all (the AART teacher has taken on the load), so maybe that's what's driving it?

It would be really great if they piloted an AAP for all where all kids were put into the highest AAP level in order to raise everyone up.

This would be fine if parents and school districts were willing to accept poor grades being assigned to poor performers. The reason people work to put their child in AAP is because the concerted efforts to make sure everyone passes and gets good grades has reduced the curriculums to a remedial crawl.

AAP is just normal education from 25 years ago plus advanced math. And parents who really care about their kids education put forth effort to ensure they get that education. Obviously many parents are happy with gened and those kids will turn out fine, but AAP is really a reflection of parents who just care more about kids learning as much as their kids can reasonably handle vs sitting and waiting. And thats not to be taken as an insult, just an opinion.

I have one kid and AAP and one kid not in AAP and it is NO reflection of how much I care about them or their education. You implying so is offensive, just my opinion.

If your kids needs are being met then you care as much as you should. The kid in gened isn’t just sitting around and is being met at their level while the aap kid is also being met at their level. I should have clarified more in the part of just sitting around and waiting for some advanced learners.

[Anonymous]

Yet somehow houses in Falls Hill are selling for $1Million+ now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yet somehow houses in Falls Hill are selling for $1Million+ now.

What is this in response to?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yet somehow houses in Falls Hill are selling for $1Million+ now.

What is this in response to?

Lol. What’s the point?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yet somehow houses in Falls Hill are selling for $1Million+ now.

What is this in response to?

Just all the mommies complaining about Shrevewood but people are still buying even total dumps for these crazy prices, it's still a desirable location.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet somehow houses in Falls Hill are selling for $1Million+ now.

What is this in response to?

Just all the mommies complaining about Shrevewood but people are still buying even total dumps for these crazy prices, it's still a desirable location.

I don’t think anyone is denying the location is desirable. I think there are folks unhappy with the changes in the delivery of the level IV curriculum. Like you, families will do what’s best for their child/children. It may be different then what you’d do, but it doesn’t make it wrong. In the end, we all want what is best for our children.

[Anonymous]

This whole AAP thing has been detrimental to my mental health and that of the entire family. My DC scored 140 without prepping, was a good student who loved going to school. Come third grade, we all couldn’t feel but like failure, DC and myself and DH, and he just is not a happy camper even though he gets pulled into LLIV for math and does well there. Anytime I seek for help, we are treated as if not “fit” for AAP for one reason or another, teachers trying to justify this statement. Honestly, he would have behaved differently if he was donned the crown instead of a label. He knows he’s being looked down on by AAP kids when he walks in as a “visitor”. DC gets all 4s in Science and SS with lower effort grade. He showed me his ppts that were better than mine for work. This year we pushed him to prove himself through outside activities and it’s putting a toll on him. I have a younger DC that has good potential to get into AAP (teachers like this one). Imagine the comparison and mental anguish when he gets in for my already-bright but tormented DC. I secretly wish the other one doesn’t get into AAP for EQUITY sake but I know, in order not to rob him of his opportunity, I will care and refer when his time comes…It’s creating such toxic dynamic for this family for sure!

[Anonymous]

Why not refer the older one again without him knowing?

[Anonymous]

Oh I did. Teachers are not willing to put in a good word for him. Says he lacks motivation, I think he just got tired of having to prove himself against all odds. I would too. The tragedy of it all is he is only in third grade and many more years of schooling left, he’s curled up in his corner, depressed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole AAP thing has been detrimental to my mental health and that of the entire family. My DC scored 140 without prepping, was a good student who loved going to school. Come third grade, we all couldn’t feel but like failure, DC and myself and DH, and he just is not a happy camper even though he gets pulled into LLIV for math and does well there. Anytime I seek for help, we are treated as if not “fit” for AAP for one reason or another, teachers trying to justify this statement. Honestly, he would have behaved differently if he was donned the crown instead of a label. He knows he’s being looked down on by AAP kids when he walks in as a “visitor”. DC gets all 4s in Science and SS with lower effort grade. He showed me his ppts that were better than mine for work. This year we pushed him to prove himself through outside activities and it’s putting a toll on him. I have a younger DC that has good potential to get into AAP (teachers like this one). Imagine the comparison and mental anguish when he gets in for my already-bright but tormented DC. I secretly wish the other one doesn’t get into AAP for EQUITY sake but I know, in order not to rob him of his opportunity, I will care and refer when his time comes…It’s creating such toxic dynamic for this family for sure!

Are you saying your family is happier with the cluster model? Or that you’re not getting support from the school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh I did. Teachers are not willing to put in a good word for him. Says he lacks motivation, I think he just got tired of having to prove himself against all odds. I would too. The tragedy of it all is he is only in third grade and many more years of schooling left, he’s curled up in his corner, depressed.

What on earth are you talking about? He’s only in third grade! It didn’t work out in second, so he hasn’t been trying for years and years or anything.

If he is actually curled in a corner, depressed, he probably needs professional help. And it likely has nothing to do with AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole AAP thing has been detrimental to my mental health and that of the entire family. My DC scored 140 without prepping, was a good student who loved going to school. Come third grade, we all couldn’t feel but like failure, DC and myself and DH, and he just is not a happy camper even though he gets pulled into LLIV for math and does well there. Anytime I seek for help, we are treated as if not “fit” for AAP for one reason or another, teachers trying to justify this statement. Honestly, he would have behaved differently if he was donned the crown instead of a label. He knows he’s being looked down on by AAP kids when he walks in as a “visitor”. DC gets all 4s in Science and SS with lower effort grade. He showed me his ppts that were better than mine for work. This year we pushed him to prove himself through outside activities and it’s putting a toll on him. I have a younger DC that has good potential to get into AAP (teachers like this one). Imagine the comparison and mental anguish when he gets in for my already-bright but tormented DC. I secretly wish the other one doesn’t get into AAP for EQUITY sake but I know, in order not to rob him of his opportunity, I will care and refer when his time comes…It’s creating such toxic dynamic for this family for sure!

Have you discussed these mental anguish issues with your pediatrician? These are heavy things for a 3rd grader and maybe outside support would be helpful!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole AAP thing has been detrimental to my mental health and that of the entire family. My DC scored 140 without prepping, was a good student who loved going to school. Come third grade, we all couldn’t feel but like failure, DC and myself and DH, and he just is not a happy camper even though he gets pulled into LLIV for math and does well there. Anytime I seek for help, we are treated as if not “fit” for AAP for one reason or another, teachers trying to justify this statement. Honestly, he would have behaved differently if he was donned the crown instead of a label. He knows he’s being looked down on by AAP kids when he walks in as a “visitor”. DC gets all 4s in Science and SS with lower effort grade. He showed me his ppts that were better than mine for work. This year we pushed him to prove himself through outside activities and it’s putting a toll on him. I have a younger DC that has good potential to get into AAP (teachers like this one). Imagine the comparison and mental anguish when he gets in for my already-bright but tormented DC. I secretly wish the other one doesn’t get into AAP for EQUITY sake but I know, in order not to rob him of his opportunity, I will care and refer when his time comes…It’s creating such toxic dynamic for this family for sure!

Have you discussed these mental anguish issues with your pediatrician? These are heavy things for a 3rd grader and maybe outside support would be helpful!

Also with your own Physician? This is not normal and hopefully you can get the help that you need!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole AAP thing has been detrimental to my mental health and that of the entire family. My DC scored 140 without prepping, was a good student who loved going to school. Come third grade, we all couldn’t feel but like failure, DC and myself and DH, and he just is not a happy camper even though he gets pulled into LLIV for math and does well there. Anytime I seek for help, we are treated as if not “fit” for AAP for one reason or another, teachers trying to justify this statement. Honestly, he would have behaved differently if he was donned the crown instead of a label. He knows he’s being looked down on by AAP kids when he walks in as a “visitor”. DC gets all 4s in Science and SS with lower effort grade. He showed me his ppts that were better than mine for work. This year we pushed him to prove himself through outside activities and it’s putting a toll on him. I have a younger DC that has good potential to get into AAP (teachers like this one). Imagine the comparison and mental anguish when he gets in for my already-bright but tormented DC. I secretly wish the other one doesn’t get into AAP for EQUITY sake but I know, in order not to rob him of his opportunity, I will care and refer when his time comes…It’s creating such toxic dynamic for this family for sure!

Did you post in the wrong thread? This one is about Shrevewood and other schools that are doing clustering. No one even knows who the LLIV kids are in our school? Just that some kids are in more advanced math classes than others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole AAP thing has been detrimental to my mental health and that of the entire family. My DC scored 140 without prepping, was a good student who loved going to school. Come third grade, we all couldn’t feel but like failure, DC and myself and DH, and he just is not a happy camper even though he gets pulled into LLIV for math and does well there. Anytime I seek for help, we are treated as if not “fit” for AAP for one reason or another, teachers trying to justify this statement. Honestly, he would have behaved differently if he was donned the crown instead of a label. He knows he’s being looked down on by AAP kids when he walks in as a “visitor”. DC gets all 4s in Science and SS with lower effort grade. He showed me his ppts that were better than mine for work. This year we pushed him to prove himself through outside activities and it’s putting a toll on him. I have a younger DC that has good potential to get into AAP (teachers like this one). Imagine the comparison and mental anguish when he gets in for my already-bright but tormented DC. I secretly wish the other one doesn’t get into AAP for EQUITY sake but I know, in order not to rob him of his opportunity, I will care and refer when his time comes…It’s creating such toxic dynamic for this family for sure!

This sounds like a parent issue. Why are you pushing your child so hard?