“Stuff Some Adults Don’t Want You to Read” at Langley

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Anonymous wrote:Joe Rogan has published a couple books. Were the librarians displaying those in the same section? How would that make OP feel?

They could be posted in the children's section. Did you check there?

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Anonymous wrote:I always appreciate book stores with banned books sections

Just because something "sells a product" doesn't mean it is the right strategy to use in a school library. Education is and should be very different from sellers market. Let's try to maintain the educational standards in our schools as much as possible.

Once again, you have no idea what the mission of a school librarian is. Their job IS to sell reading…to market their books, to motivate busy HS students to read when they could do 1000 other things. Tapping into normal teen rebellion is a great strategy.

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Anonymous wrote:Totally agree. It is outrageous that the principal cowered in the face of this manufactured controversy and threw the librarian under the bus.

The principal took ownership. She did not throw anyone under the bus.

DP. The principal didn’t put up the sign. Calling it poor judgment was absolutely throwing the librarian under the bus.

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Pretty shitty thing to do to the librarian. Principal should have set up an additional book display at the school entry.

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Anonymous wrote:Joe Rogan has published a couple books. Were the librarians displaying those in the same section? How would that make OP feel?

Librarians curate their collections based on the merit of the work, whether it has at least two reputable professional reviews, whether it complements the curriculum, or whether it serves a need of the school population. Seems unlikely that Joe Rogan books would fit the bill. But no, I would not be outraged if they were in a library collection if there was student demand for them and they were useful.

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Anonymous wrote:This is yet another way that schools are making it an us (parents) versus them (adults in schools) mentality. Perpetuating the notion our kids, while at school, are independent and unaccountable to their parents is troubling. Or, at the worst indefensible, when "teaching" that their parents are morally wrong or "bad" because parents beliefs are counter to what is being normalized at school. I do not want to dictate what schools teach my kids, I just want schools to reiterate to our children that parents have the biggest stake in their lives. And, no matter what, their parents and what their parents provide, encourage, and instill in kids are the biggest indicators of success - not replaceable by anything a school can, nor should, do for children. Parenting is hard enough these days without having to fight and counter what adults, who are not in any way (legally, financially, emotionally) responsible for our children, are "teaching."

https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/educations-enduring-love-affair-luxury-beliefs

What values are you trying to instill in your kids that conflict with them reading Maus?

It is not about the books, but the sign. Encouraging children to defy adults and "wronging" adults (who may be their parents) is the problem. My kids have all read Maus. My DC was assigned Like Water for Chocolate for school reading, and we used it as a conversation starter, although I understand why some parents may not see that as a book they would want their child to read, and there would be no need to shame that parent. Not wanting to expose children to overly sexualized material is a rational, reasonable point of view - albeit one other parents may disagree with.

I am a parent and I have absolutely no problem with my child defying the wishes of book banners. The sign did not say to defy your parents. It was meant to pique student interest about WHY some adults would want a book banned.

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Anonymous wrote:It wasn’t just the principal. The Region 1 superintendent (Doug Tyson) issued a separate apology as well. It’s just sad they feel the need to apologize for looking for creative ways to encourage kids to read.

Why do those losers still have jobs?

I’m a VA public school parent who pays more taxes than most so I get to make school decisions. Fire those MFers.

So if I pay more than you, can I override your vote? Because I'm sure I do.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine parents complaining about that at almost any other public FCPS high school.

I think we just have a handful of troublemaker parents who love to get national attention on these things. It’s not the first time they’ve overreacted.

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Brava! THIS!

I suspect a few parents have a direct line to producers at Fox and take advantage of the chance to stir the pot and fuel their national agenda. I feel sorry for our principal.

I don’t feel sorry for the principal. The principal should be ashamed of caving to these ridiculous harpies and hurting the librarians and students in the process.

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Anonymous wrote:It wasn’t just the principal. The Region 1 superintendent (Doug Tyson) issued a separate apology as well. It’s just sad they feel the need to apologize for looking for creative ways to encourage kids to read.

I am in the a let people read camp.

I feel this sign was grossly inappropriate and the librarian should be disciplined.

An apology was appropriate from both the principal and the district superintendent.

“Grossly inappropriate”?!!!! PLEASE. Some adults don’t want kids to read those books. Undeniable. That fact makes teens curious to do their own thinking. Encouraging teens to do their own thinking is what good schools, and good librarians, do.

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If parents don’t want their kids exposed to the books in the school library, they can homeschool.

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Anonymous wrote:It wasn’t just the principal. The Region 1 superintendent (Doug Tyson) issued a separate apology as well. It’s just sad they feel the need to apologize for looking for creative ways to encourage kids to read.

There are many, many other ways to better encourage folks to read than this. C'mon - be better.

I literally don’t see any problem at all with the display. What are your issues with it, specifically?

Kids always get curious when they realize the parents don't want them to see something or do something. So, it seems the school played with kids "curiosity" to actually encourage them to read those books. Why encourage books that have sexual content? There are many more appropriate books that a school can encourage kids to read.

I am very disappointed with Langley that they played with kids psyche like that. I am not a parent there, but if I was, I would raise my voice. This is not a political issue, it is an educational scandal.

I totally agree - but it was one librarian who did this. Not school sanctioned at all. And there are many parents who are upset about it, not just a “vocal few,” as these posters would have you believe.

I don’t believe for a minute that any more than a handful of real parents are even slightly bothered by it. It’s simply the right wing outrage machine kicking into gear over absolutely nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do some teachers and librarians want students to read Gender Queer so badly?

Why would you even think this? Do you honestly think there is a cabal of school librarians who are promoting a don’t-change-your-sanitary napkin lifestyle to children? Or do they have stuck in strap on dildo companies? Or do they want everyone to question their gender? You seriously think this?

The job of a librarian is, in part, to promote the books in their collection. All of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course it was at Langley. At any other high school in this region, parents would be applauding the librarian, but the rich white bored moms at Langley are outraged. Too many similarities to Loudon families.

I am a Langley parent and I don’t think most Langley parents care one way or the other about the sign. As my daughter said when I asked her what the sign said, “I don’t even go to the library so I don’t know what you are talking about.” LOL. I believe this issue came from a Cooper parent during a rising 9th grader parent meeting. I believe (but I’m not 100% sure) that this parent is the same one who took her kids to Fortestville Elementary on the Tuesday after Youngkin issued his mask Executive Order and demanded her kids go maskless, then filmed herself ranting about the injustice of it all when the school denied her request. Now she’s doing this with the book issue. I wonder what will come next?

The majority of parents at Langley had no issue with this. It’s a small group of women, including this one mentioned that come up with this shit. This one at Forestville didn’t act alone, there was a Langley parent who helped and together they spew all this anti-masking, anti-vaccine shit and it’s all because they can’t get over the fact Trump lost!

This unhinged vocal minority of parents is tearing apart our community for their own political goals. I really hope the majority of reasonable people shows up soon.

DP. I hate to break it to you, but the unhinged vocal minority are those who are gleeful that our public school libraries see nothing wrong with providing kids graphically sexual books. The majority of reasonable people are those who are simply asking to keep those books out of the schools. You can still bring your kids to public libraries and make sure they get their fair share of graphic sex.

Your kids know what sex is. If they are curious about graphic depictions, they have already found it on the internet.

Kids also know what drugs and alcohol are, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that schools should be the ones buying weed and booze for them to consume at school and constantly encourage their consumption. Does it?
If they did, they would face serious legal consequences for procuring and enabling possession and consumption of illegal substances by minors at their facilities. Can you see the parallel with deliberately exposing minors to pornography and pedophilia? Most parents do, and that is why we are spelling out the obvious time and again to school activists; some librarians, principals, teachers; and all school board members.

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Anonymous wrote:Totally agree. It is outrageous that the principal cowered in the face of this manufactured controversy and threw the librarian under the bus.

The principal took ownership. She did not throw anyone under the bus.

DP. The principal didn’t put up the sign. Calling it poor judgment was absolutely throwing the librarian under the bus.

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Pretty shitty thing to do to the librarian. Principal should have set up an additional book display at the school entry.

The sign was up for at least four days. The principal waited until there was a twitter war to remove it. It was her poor judgement to keep the sign up.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m disappointed at Ms. Greer’s response. It’s makes her look ridiculous.

The sign was in the library since at least Friday morning and was only removed on Tuesday.

If it was really as bad as her email implies, why was it up so long? It’s her school and if there was an actual problem, she should have addressed it before it started trending on Twitter. Or she should have stood up and told the Twitter mob to sit down.

It really disappointing.

I completely disagree. There were many parents who found the librarian's sign to be completely disrespectful of parents and wholly unnecessary. I appreciated Ms. Greer's email apologizing.

LOL - "many".

So you don't have kids who go to Langley. That much is clear.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine parents complaining about that at almost any other public FCPS high school.

I think we just have a handful of troublemaker parents who love to get national attention on these things. It’s not the first time they’ve overreacted.

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Brava! THIS!

I suspect a few parents have a direct line to producers at Fox and take advantage of the chance to stir the pot and fuel their national agenda. I feel sorry for our principal.

I don’t feel sorry for the principal. The principal should be ashamed of caving to these ridiculous harpies and hurting the librarians and students in the process.

She has made so many enemies among the staff during her tenure.

This was just another incident.