TJ drop outs under the new admission standards

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The NMSF determination will happen only in junior year so that is a year away. But sophomore get a shot at the PSAT as well.

If those scores (average scores of course not individual ones) are made public and compared with equivalent sophomore PSAT scores - there will be a directional view on how this class is performing.

There will only be a "directional view" (to use your made-up phrase) with respect to their performance on standardized exams.

No one of any legitimate intelligence level will or should be surprised if classes selected under the new admissions system underperform somewhat compared to the prior classes...

...because FCPS is no longer over-selecting for exam performance in the TJ Admissions process.

This would be the case even if FCPS had retained the exam but diminished its weight, or retained teacher recommendations, or did any number of things to alter the admissions process.

Because when you stop over-emphasizing exam performance, you're going to get more kids that are good at things other than exams.

It'll be a great day for FCPS when they no longer have 85% of the National Merit Semifinalists coming from one school.

BS.

The CYA has begun.

FCPS is no longer selecting for excellence. We are selecting for equity - an that is fine if that is your holy grail - do not sugarcoat the motivation by saying things like exam-performance will be de-emphasized. That is utter BS. If that was the goal you could have just removed the exam and not put in the "experience factors"

Do not shame the kids who went through very successfully through TJ and beyond via exams. They had to sit for exams because that was the only way to get into TJ. Belittling their success is utter BS.

+1000

The radical school board + Dr. Brabrand targeted the very essence of what makes TJ the number 1 high school in the USA:

- academic excellence.

This politics are the politics of destruction.

They have no shame, as evidenced by their recently touting US News rating TJ as the #1 high school in the country when that rating was based entirely on performance data for students admitted before the change in admissions policy. Brabrand and his minions are opportunistic little turds with no scruples whatsoever.

We are stuck with the same rotten school board until 2023.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NMSF determination will happen only in junior year so that is a year away. But sophomore get a shot at the PSAT as well.

If those scores (average scores of course not individual ones) are made public and compared with equivalent sophomore PSAT scores - there will be a directional view on how this class is performing.

There will only be a "directional view" (to use your made-up phrase) with respect to their performance on standardized exams.

No one of any legitimate intelligence level will or should be surprised if classes selected under the new admissions system underperform somewhat compared to the prior classes...

...because FCPS is no longer over-selecting for exam performance in the TJ Admissions process.

This would be the case even if FCPS had retained the exam but diminished its weight, or retained teacher recommendations, or did any number of things to alter the admissions process.

Because when you stop over-emphasizing exam performance, you're going to get more kids that are good at things other than exams.

It'll be a great day for FCPS when they no longer have 85% of the National Merit Semifinalists coming from one school.

BS.

The CYA has begun.

FCPS is no longer selecting for excellence. We are selecting for equity - an that is fine if that is your holy grail - do not sugarcoat the motivation by saying things like exam-performance will be de-emphasized. That is utter BS. If that was the goal you could have just removed the exam and not put in the "experience factors"

Do not shame the kids who went through very successfully through TJ and beyond via exams. They had to sit for exams because that was the only way to get into TJ. Belittling their success is utter BS.

+1000

The radical school board + Dr. Brabrand targeted the very essence of what makes TJ the number 1 high school in the USA:

- academic excellence.

This politics are the politics of destruction.

They have no shame, as evidenced by their recently touting US News rating TJ as the #1 high school in the country when that rating was based entirely on performance data for students admitted before the change in admissions policy. Brabrand and his minions are opportunistic little turds with no scruples whatsoever.

We are stuck with the same rotten school board until 2023.

Is there a legal way to turn them down? They did so many bad things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

The only place I might agree with you is the initial AAP screening. That needs to be reformed to actually identify gifted kids from across the county and not take so many simply smart wealthy kids who prep or appeal to get in.

TJ Admissions should be almost exclusively AAP kids coming from the core schools. Those are your top kids in STEM. Not some random kid only taking Algebra 1 8th grade give me a break.

[Anonymous]

agree. All TJ students should come from AAP Level IV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:agree. All TJ students should come from AAP Level IV.

OMG. No. That’s even worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

The only place I might agree with you is the initial AAP screening. That needs to be reformed to actually identify gifted kids from across the county and not take so many simply smart wealthy kids who prep or appeal to get in.

TJ Admissions should be almost exclusively AAP kids coming from the core schools. Those are your top kids in STEM. Not some random kid only taking Algebra 1 8th grade give me a break.

So my child is not in AAP. So according to you, DC should stop thinking about TJ at all. They are just in 3rd grade when they get into AAP. Every child is different. AAP is not a gateway to TJ. How will explain if DC becomes serious about TJ in 6th grade, that my dear child your chance was over in 3rd grade. You are no good for a good school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

Next they will define 2 parent households as a privilege and their will be demerit points against that. Agreed that not everyone has involved parents or even a 2 parent household but to hold that against families is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

Next they will define 2 parent households as a privilege and their will be demerit points against that. Agreed that not everyone has involved parents or even a 2 parent household but to hold that against families is ridiculous.

They should give demerit points for toxic parents.