TJ drop outs under the new admission standards

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

Next they will define 2 parent households as a privilege and their will be demerit points against that. Agreed that not everyone has involved parents or even a 2 parent household but to hold that against families is ridiculous.

They should give demerit points for toxic parents.

"Toxicity" will of course be a WASP standard.

If you emphasize education over other things then your kid will not be "well-rounded" and hence you are toxic.

See any issues with that?

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

The drop rate is down YoY. I think it's because the more naturally gifted students they're selecting now that they've closed the prep/privilege loophole seem to do better.

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Anonymous wrote:The NMSF determination will happen only in junior year so that is a year away. But sophomore get a shot at the PSAT as well.

If those scores (average scores of course not individual ones) are made public and compared with equivalent sophomore PSAT scores - there will be a directional view on how this class is performing.

There will only be a "directional view" (to use your made-up phrase) with respect to their performance on standardized exams.

No one of any legitimate intelligence level will or should be surprised if classes selected under the new admissions system underperform somewhat compared to the prior classes...

...because FCPS is no longer over-selecting for exam performance in the TJ Admissions process.

This would be the case even if FCPS had retained the exam but diminished its weight, or retained teacher recommendations, or did any number of things to alter the admissions process.

Because when you stop over-emphasizing exam performance, you're going to get more kids that are good at things other than exams.

It'll be a great day for FCPS when they no longer have 85% of the National Merit Semifinalists coming from one school.

BS.

The CYA has begun.

FCPS is no longer selecting for excellence. We are selecting for equity - an that is fine if that is your holy grail - do not sugarcoat the motivation by saying things like exam-performance will be de-emphasized. That is utter BS. If that was the goal you could have just removed the exam and not put in the "experience factors"

Do not shame the kids who went through very successfully through TJ and beyond via exams. They had to sit for exams because that was the only way to get into TJ. Belittling their success is utter BS.

+1000

The radical school board + Dr. Brabrand targeted the very essence of what makes TJ the number 1 high school in the USA:

- academic excellence.

This politics are the politics of destruction.

They have no shame, as evidenced by their recently touting US News rating TJ as the #1 high school in the country when that rating was based entirely on performance data for students admitted before the change in admissions policy. Brabrand and his minions are opportunistic little turds with no scruples whatsoever.

We are stuck with the same rotten school board until 2023.

I know it's terrible that they made it so you can't buy a TJ seat for your kids anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

Next they will define 2 parent households as a privilege and their will be demerit points against that. Agreed that not everyone has involved parents or even a 2 parent household but to hold that against families is ridiculous.

They should give demerit points for toxic parents.

"Toxicity" will of course be a WASP standard.

If you emphasize education over other things then your kid will not be "well-rounded" and hence you are toxic.

See any issues with that?

Why are you trying to interject race into it?

Toxic parents come in all flavors.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

The drop rate is down YoY. I think it's because the more naturally gifted students they're selecting now that they've closed the prep/privilege loophole seem to do better.

Nah, the current students just entered TJ at a time when FCPS was lowering its standards across-the-board. It's no different from the system-wide announcements about high graduation rates.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

There are LLIV and AAP programs all over FCPS. But if you have issues with access to AAP, you should focus on improving access to AAP, not rigging the TJ admissions process to disadvantage students because they attend AAP centers and/or have parents who pay for their kids' meals.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

There are LLIV and AAP programs all over FCPS. But if you have issues with access to AAP, you should focus on improving access to AAP, not rigging the TJ admissions process to disadvantage students because they attend AAP centers and/or have parents who pay for their kids' meals.

Why do you think they added the “bonus points” for low-income?

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.

I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

The drop rate is down YoY. I think it's because the more naturally gifted students they're selecting now that they've closed the prep/privilege loophole seem to do better.

Nah, the current students just entered TJ at a time when FCPS was lowering its standards across-the-board. It's no different from the system-wide announcements about high graduation rates.

True test will be the PSAT next Fall. And College admits eventually if you want to wait till then. Of course the narrative then will be that TJ is not a means for better college outcomes, it is a pathway to appreciation of STEM (like an art history course you would do in college)

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

The drop rate is down YoY. I think it's because the more naturally gifted students they're selecting now that they've closed the prep/privilege loophole seem to do better.

Nah, the current students just entered TJ at a time when FCPS was lowering its standards across-the-board. It's no different from the system-wide announcements about high graduation rates.

True test will be the PSAT next Fall. And College admits eventually if you want to wait till then. Of course the narrative then will be that TJ is not a means for better college outcomes, it is a pathway to appreciation of STEM (like an art history course you would do in college)

I predict college outcomes will improve because high performing URMs will do extremely well.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

The drop rate is down YoY. I think it's because the more naturally gifted students they're selecting now that they've closed the prep/privilege loophole seem to do better.

Nah, the current students just entered TJ at a time when FCPS was lowering its standards across-the-board. It's no different from the system-wide announcements about high graduation rates.

True test will be the PSAT next Fall. And College admits eventually if you want to wait till then. Of course the narrative then will be that TJ is not a means for better college outcomes, it is a pathway to appreciation of STEM (like an art history course you would do in college)

The fallacy is that the PSAT results are meaningful. The PSAT is a just practice test. Many TJ kids have mastered this sort of test of basic algebra/trig when they prepared for TJ. Studying for years for a math test improves your score. Knowing test taking strategies improves your score.

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Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

Who mentioned anything about “TJ grads”?

Give me a break! All this vilification of those who do well in exams as being prepped and somehow lesser candidates than children of privilege. Most TJ grads came into TJ via exams and happened to do well in exams thereafter and go on to do well in life (except for one TJ grad who failed to launch and polices this Noard on behalf of TJAAG as a paid troll).

Doing well in exams is not a demerit as the history of TJ grads shows us.

So encouraged by the CA primary results - hopefully Virginia will also show these progressives the door. There may be hope in the Democratic Party.

Posters aren’t vilifying kids who do well.

They are vilifying the industry built around gaming the system. Starting with prepping for cogat right up to practicing TJ questions that aren’t public. Unethical practices.

“They” are stupid because “they” ought to be vilifying the system that created a TJ and the incentives to gain admission to that one school. Starting with the Republican BOS members who thought a “magnet” school would be a good marketing tool for the county and continuing through the current Democrats on the School Board who tinker with TJ admissions for purely political reasons. What a bunch of idiots.

They are “tinkering” with the system because it was crazy imbalanced. They wanted to include other well-qualified STEM students. Not just those who were lucky enough to have parents who know how to play the admissions game starting at a young age.

False narrative. Again, if you hate the idea of some kids having parents who care more about their education and upbringing, why do you support having TJ at all? Is it just so you can show off a few more black or brown kids at a TJ graduation in 2025 and claim they are the “best” of FCPS?

No, TJ should be a school for STEM nerds. But not exclusively for the ones who followed a very specific path (including possibly unethical supports) that starts in 3rd grade.

Outline what your approach would be, because currently AAP is the bulk of the most advanced kids in the county.

Like I said before I think there is still room to reform AAP, that's where the focus should be not doing this equity nonsense with TJ.

I don’t have a specific approach in mind but I do like the geographic component of this new process. That gives access to some kids who didn’t get on the AAP train in 3rd grade.

A lot can change between 3rd grade and 8th grade.

I agree. The most logical change would be to re-screen all kids in 5th or 6th grade for middle school AAP. That would be an excellent opportunity to remove kids from AAP who peaked early or struggled in the program and to add kids who bloomed later or were missed by the process. If they screened in 6th, they could administer a new standardized test as well as use SOL scores from the previous 3 years and IAAT scores to inform their decision making.

I like this approach and I think folks on this board could could come together and solve everything instead of relying on an inept school board. I don't care what "side" you are on they aren't the brightest.

I like elecitng people to do this for us. Like our school board. I know it's popular to bash them but I think hey're doing. a great job.