TJ drop outs under the new admission standards

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NMSF determination will happen only in junior year so that is a year away. But sophomore get a shot at the PSAT as well.

If those scores (average scores of course not individual ones) are made public and compared with equivalent sophomore PSAT scores - there will be a directional view on how this class is performing.

If the average scores are good, pro-reform people will say, see I told you the standardized test shows that they are inertly smart !! If the average scores are bad, they will say, see I told you the standardized test fails to show that they are inertly smart!! Either way, the pro-reform people will say that they are inertly smart!!

Exactly. They'll disparage the test by saying only prepped robots do well on those things, but their child is naturally brilliant and full of personality. Not a boring prepped robot...and colleges agree with me because they don't require the tests anymore (except MIT, which realized that test optional doesn't yield the type of student who can hack it at MIT)

When 30% of the kids who were admitted were from just one prep center it suggests many feel it necessary to spend $5k to $10k on prep in order to compete. in fact, it's safe to say that the majority were heavily prepped under the old system

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NMSF determination will happen only in junior year so that is a year away. But sophomore get a shot at the PSAT as well.

If those scores (average scores of course not individual ones) are made public and compared with equivalent sophomore PSAT scores - there will be a directional view on how this class is performing.

If the average scores are good, pro-reform people will say, see I told you the standardized test shows that they are inertly smart !! If the average scores are bad, they will say, see I told you the standardized test fails to show that they are inertly smart!! Either way, the pro-reform people will say that they are inertly smart!!

And if the scores are good, the pro-privilege parents will make up alternative facts to support the narrative that benefits them persoanlly.

[Anonymous]

I love it! Inertly (sic)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NMSF determination will happen only in junior year so that is a year away. But sophomore get a shot at the PSAT as well.

If those scores (average scores of course not individual ones) are made public and compared with equivalent sophomore PSAT scores - there will be a directional view on how this class is performing.

If the average scores are good, pro-reform people will say, see I told you the standardized test shows that they are inertly smart !! If the average scores are bad, they will say, see I told you the standardized test fails to show that they are inertly smart!! Either way, the pro-reform people will say that they are inertly smart!!

And if the scores are good, the pro-privilege parents will make up alternative facts to support the narrative that benefits them persoanlly.

And maybe their scores are more variable depending on how much prep they've had. Their scores aren't as 'inert' as others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NMSF determination will happen only in junior year so that is a year away. But sophomore get a shot at the PSAT as well.

If those scores (average scores of course not individual ones) are made public and compared with equivalent sophomore PSAT scores - there will be a directional view on how this class is performing.

If the average scores are good, pro-reform people will say, see I told you the standardized test shows that they are inertly smart !! If the average scores are bad, they will say, see I told you the standardized test fails to show that they are inertly smart!! Either way, the pro-reform people will say that they are inertly smart!!

And if the scores are good, the pro-privilege parents will make up alternative facts to support the narrative that benefits them persoanlly.

as shown in the previous pages....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love it! Inertly (sic)

I love it! Persoanlly (sic)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The NMSF determination will happen only in junior year so that is a year away. But sophomore get a shot at the PSAT as well.

If those scores (average scores of course not individual ones) are made public and compared with equivalent sophomore PSAT scores - there will be a directional view on how this class is performing.

There will only be a "directional view" (to use your made-up phrase) with respect to their performance on standardized exams.

No one of any legitimate intelligence level will or should be surprised if classes selected under the new admissions system underperform somewhat compared to the prior classes...

...because FCPS is no longer over-selecting for exam performance in the TJ Admissions process.

This would be the case even if FCPS had retained the exam but diminished its weight, or retained teacher recommendations, or did any number of things to alter the admissions process.

Because when you stop over-emphasizing exam performance, you're going to get more kids that are good at things other than exams.

It'll be a great day for FCPS when they no longer have 85% of the National Merit Semifinalists coming from one school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NMSF determination will happen only in junior year so that is a year away. But sophomore get a shot at the PSAT as well.

If those scores (average scores of course not individual ones) are made public and compared with equivalent sophomore PSAT scores - there will be a directional view on how this class is performing.

There will only be a "directional view" (to use your made-up phrase) with respect to their performance on standardized exams.

No one of any legitimate intelligence level will or should be surprised if classes selected under the new admissions system underperform somewhat compared to the prior classes...

...because FCPS is no longer over-selecting for exam performance in the TJ Admissions process.

This would be the case even if FCPS had retained the exam but diminished its weight, or retained teacher recommendations, or did any number of things to alter the admissions process.

Because when you stop over-emphasizing exam performance, you're going to get more kids that are good at things other than exams.

It'll be a great day for FCPS when they no longer have 85% of the National Merit Semifinalists coming from one school.

What if 40% of the NMSFs come from the TJ in the future, but the total number in FCPS in down 50%. Is this a win for you people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NMSF determination will happen only in junior year so that is a year away. But sophomore get a shot at the PSAT as well.

If those scores (average scores of course not individual ones) are made public and compared with equivalent sophomore PSAT scores - there will be a directional view on how this class is performing.

There will only be a "directional view" (to use your made-up phrase) with respect to their performance on standardized exams.

No one of any legitimate intelligence level will or should be surprised if classes selected under the new admissions system underperform somewhat compared to the prior classes...

...because FCPS is no longer over-selecting for exam performance in the TJ Admissions process.

This would be the case even if FCPS had retained the exam but diminished its weight, or retained teacher recommendations, or did any number of things to alter the admissions process.

Because when you stop over-emphasizing exam performance, you're going to get more kids that are good at things other than exams.

It'll be a great day for FCPS when they no longer have 85% of the National Merit Semifinalists coming from one school.

BS.

The CYA has begun.

FCPS is no longer selecting for excellence. We are selecting for equity - an that is fine if that is your holy grail - do not sugarcoat the motivation by saying things like exam-performance will be de-emphasized. That is utter BS. If that was the goal you could have just removed the exam and not put in the "experience factors"

Do not shame the kids who went through very successfully through TJ and beyond via exams. They had to sit for exams because that was the only way to get into TJ. Belittling their success is utter BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NMSF determination will happen only in junior year so that is a year away. But sophomore get a shot at the PSAT as well.

If those scores (average scores of course not individual ones) are made public and compared with equivalent sophomore PSAT scores - there will be a directional view on how this class is performing.

There will only be a "directional view" (to use your made-up phrase) with respect to their performance on standardized exams.

No one of any legitimate intelligence level will or should be surprised if classes selected under the new admissions system underperform somewhat compared to the prior classes...

...because FCPS is no longer over-selecting for exam performance in the TJ Admissions process.

This would be the case even if FCPS had retained the exam but diminished its weight, or retained teacher recommendations, or did any number of things to alter the admissions process.

Because when you stop over-emphasizing exam performance, you're going to get more kids that are good at things other than exams.

It'll be a great day for FCPS when they no longer have 85% of the National Merit Semifinalists coming from one school.

BS.

The CYA has begun.

FCPS is no longer selecting for excellence. We are selecting for equity - an that is fine if that is your holy grail - do not sugarcoat the motivation by saying things like exam-performance will be de-emphasized. That is utter BS. If that was the goal you could have just removed the exam and not put in the "experience factors"

Do not shame the kids who went through very successfully through TJ and beyond via exams. They had to sit for exams because that was the only way to get into TJ. Belittling their success is utter BS.

+1000. This is the agenda of the Fairfax Democrats. They primarily want to "elevate" certain constituencies they see as critical to their future electoral prospects and the temptation to put down other groups as part of that strategy is often just too hard for them to resist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NMSF determination will happen only in junior year so that is a year away. But sophomore get a shot at the PSAT as well.

If those scores (average scores of course not individual ones) are made public and compared with equivalent sophomore PSAT scores - there will be a directional view on how this class is performing.

There will only be a "directional view" (to use your made-up phrase) with respect to their performance on standardized exams.

No one of any legitimate intelligence level will or should be surprised if classes selected under the new admissions system underperform somewhat compared to the prior classes...

...because FCPS is no longer over-selecting for exam performance in the TJ Admissions process.

This would be the case even if FCPS had retained the exam but diminished its weight, or retained teacher recommendations, or did any number of things to alter the admissions process.

Because when you stop over-emphasizing exam performance, you're going to get more kids that are good at things other than exams.

It'll be a great day for FCPS when they no longer have 85% of the National Merit Semifinalists coming from one school.

BS.

The CYA has begun.

FCPS is no longer selecting for excellence. We are selecting for equity - an that is fine if that is your holy grail - do not sugarcoat the motivation by saying things like exam-performance will be de-emphasized. That is utter BS. If that was the goal you could have just removed the exam and not put in the "experience factors"

Do not shame the kids who went through very successfully through TJ and beyond via exams. They had to sit for exams because that was the only way to get into TJ. Belittling their success is utter BS.

+1000

The radical school board + Dr. Brabrand targeted the very essence of what makes TJ the number 1 high school in the USA:

- academic excellence.

This politics are the politics of destruction.

[Anonymous]

So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NMSF determination will happen only in junior year so that is a year away. But sophomore get a shot at the PSAT as well.

If those scores (average scores of course not individual ones) are made public and compared with equivalent sophomore PSAT scores - there will be a directional view on how this class is performing.

There will only be a "directional view" (to use your made-up phrase) with respect to their performance on standardized exams.

No one of any legitimate intelligence level will or should be surprised if classes selected under the new admissions system underperform somewhat compared to the prior classes...

...because FCPS is no longer over-selecting for exam performance in the TJ Admissions process.

This would be the case even if FCPS had retained the exam but diminished its weight, or retained teacher recommendations, or did any number of things to alter the admissions process.

Because when you stop over-emphasizing exam performance, you're going to get more kids that are good at things other than exams.

It'll be a great day for FCPS when they no longer have 85% of the National Merit Semifinalists coming from one school.

BS.

The CYA has begun.

FCPS is no longer selecting for excellence. We are selecting for equity - an that is fine if that is your holy grail - do not sugarcoat the motivation by saying things like exam-performance will be de-emphasized. That is utter BS. If that was the goal you could have just removed the exam and not put in the "experience factors"

Do not shame the kids who went through very successfully through TJ and beyond via exams. They had to sit for exams because that was the only way to get into TJ. Belittling their success is utter BS.

+1000

The radical school board + Dr. Brabrand targeted the very essence of what makes TJ the number 1 high school in the USA:

- academic excellence.

This politics are the politics of destruction.

They have no shame, as evidenced by their recently touting US News rating TJ as the #1 high school in the country when that rating was based entirely on performance data for students admitted before the change in admissions policy. Brabrand and his minions are opportunistic little turds with no scruples whatsoever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much venom for well-qualified kids who happen to come from other middle schools.

So disgusting.

Vile.

Throwing so much abuse at TJ grads just to suit the self-serving faux equity agenda.

Gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NMSF determination will happen only in junior year so that is a year away. But sophomore get a shot at the PSAT as well.

If those scores (average scores of course not individual ones) are made public and compared with equivalent sophomore PSAT scores - there will be a directional view on how this class is performing.

There will only be a "directional view" (to use your made-up phrase) with respect to their performance on standardized exams.

No one of any legitimate intelligence level will or should be surprised if classes selected under the new admissions system underperform somewhat compared to the prior classes...

...because FCPS is no longer over-selecting for exam performance in the TJ Admissions process.

This would be the case even if FCPS had retained the exam but diminished its weight, or retained teacher recommendations, or did any number of things to alter the admissions process.

Because when you stop over-emphasizing exam performance, you're going to get more kids that are good at things other than exams.

It'll be a great day for FCPS when they no longer have 85% of the National Merit Semifinalists coming from one school.

What if 40% of the NMSFs come from the TJ in the future, but the total number in FCPS in down 50%. Is this a win for you people?

Is that your next play? Trash FCPS to push for charters and vouchers?

What’s next on the GOP game plan?