Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:Travis and Jason come from a supportive legit real family. There doesn't seem to be any major conflicts in their family with big and bigger egos.

Stop romanticizing TK’s life.

Travis was raised in a two parent household where his mother despised their father. TK’s mom was the main breadwinner because TK’s dad was frequently unemployed. It was by no means an ideal upbringing.

But but midwestern! Wholesome! All American! The Kelce brothers are both so tall and strong!

I think the MAGAs have done a good job of dispelling the wholesome midwestern trope.

You'd think, but then you still have a bunch of people falling all over themselves trying to claim that the Kelce family is a "good" family because they look/act midwestern, while ignoring all the stuff Travis and Jason have done that actually speak to being plenty flawed, a bit fame whorish, and no more "legit" and "real" than anyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:The NFL got what it wanted for the Super Bowl. Doesn’t matter if the Chiefs win or lose now. Millions more people will be tuning in and the NFL will milk it for all it’s worth…

…because Travis and Taylor will inevitably split by the summer — certainly by the beginning of next season. She’s certainly not going to play the googly-eyed cheerleading girlfriend schtick indefinitely.

After this month she will have plenty of fodder with which to write another song (probably an entire album) and profit off it for years to come. He’ll fade into obscurity like most NFL players.

Taylor, in 5 months, tooling around on the piano:

I hitched a ride on your shooting star
Not knowing where it would take me
A box in the sky isn't as high as you think
But when I fell, well, it was gonna break me
I wanted to be your girl, your heart
Bleeding red whether you won or lost
The planes, the games, the after party
The money didn't matter; I didn't know what it'd cost

Maybe she's playing the young, adoring girlfriend because she knows this will make it more believable to her fans when she inevitably writes a breakup song that casts her as the victim. It only makes sense if you forget that she's incredibly powerful and in control of her life, so she has to convince everyone she's just a girl, standing in front of a boy, hoping he'll invite her to sit in his family's box at the big game.

Well done. This is really good.

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Anonymous wrote:she doesn't really seem like her age if that makes sense

https://twitter.com/tayvisnation/status/1751779290591453281

It does make sense and I totally agree. She seems young for her age. Maybe it’s her hair and makeup? Her giddy behavior? How attached she seems to female friends? She seems like she’s 22 not 34.

I think she acts younger around Travis and yes the giddy behavior is part of it. She comes off as a very young woman without a lot of life experience who adores/looks up to her super successful boyfriend. It feels cringe to me.

It makes me think of when certain friends of mine who were previously very with it and successful started fawning all over a new boyfriend like he invented fire, when they were as if not more accomplished. It feels retrograde and you wonder if they are acting less intelligent or mature in purpose because the guy likes feeling in charge.

This feels mean. When you fall in love, those first several months you are not yourself, and it really happens at every age. Most people falling in love don’t have these big moments captured by a million cameras - but anyone who’s been in a new relationship feels dopey. It’s just usually more private.

Also, you’re not really ever seeing them in a normal situation. He just found out he was going to the Super Bowl, you’re not going to act your chill self.

I agree it feels mean. Look at the Golden Bachelor contestants - many seem like they bonded and are now good friends after spending a few months together. I think this happens when you are in a completely new environment (for you) - you look to people to latch onto as you navigate the situation.

For Taylor, Brittany is the perfect person to help her navigate through the WAG world.

This take is a perfect example of why her behavior feels immature to me. If you were describing a 24 year old, I'd see how this makes sense. You are describing someone a decade older, who has a billion dollars and was just named Time's Person of the Year. Why are you comparing her to contestants on the Golden Bachelor??? Why does she need someone to "latch onto" and navigate being a football girlfriend? Why does she even have to do "football girlfriend" correctly -- she's Taylor Swift, who cares.

Also, to the prior poster, it is not actually necessary for so many of the Travis and Taylor's "key moments" in their relationship to be public. Like sure, her giving him a hug after yesterday's game -- that was going to happen on the field. But most of the personal interactions between them that have been "caught" by the cameras could have happened in private. They are not required to do a pap walk after going to dinner. Travis is not required to greet her in full view of fans and press when she comes off the stage at her show. She is not required to walk through the stadium with him after games. And so on. Many, many famous people manage to date in ways that don't involve being photographed on dates or in private, intimate moments. These people are insanely wealthy -- they just have those moments behind closed doors.

We see this stuff because they want us to see it.

The only "pap walk" after dinner was in NYC in Sept, where the paps follow Taylor 24/7. Find one "pap walk" from Kansas City, where apparently they've been regularly going out to dinner the last few months. Yes, like other famous people they've managed to go on private dates.

Yes, they do have to walk out of the stadium together, since, believe it or not, they are going home together. Because, yes, they really are having a relationship, they really are sleeping together, IT IS ALL REAL.

I'm curious, what other things do you refuse to believe are real?

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She lives in New York, paps everywhere, she's used to it. She's spoken about it, that they're actually better than the Hollywood ones because they leave her alone and just take the photos. The alternative is to hide. She doesn't want to. What's your problem with that? You're essentially saying they should hide, and they don't want to. That's their choice. Deal with it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The NFL got what it wanted for the Super Bowl. Doesn’t matter if the Chiefs win or lose now. Millions more people will be tuning in and the NFL will milk it for all it’s worth…

…because Travis and Taylor will inevitably split by the summer — certainly by the beginning of next season. She’s certainly not going to play the googly-eyed cheerleading girlfriend schtick indefinitely.

After this month she will have plenty of fodder with which to write another song (probably an entire album) and profit off it for years to come. He’ll fade into obscurity like most NFL players.

We should bookmark this post. I think it's spot on.

I really am rooting for them (sorry, I just can't help it), but I think this is pretty accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:she doesn't really seem like her age if that makes sense

https://twitter.com/tayvisnation/status/1751779290591453281

It does make sense and I totally agree. She seems young for her age. Maybe it’s her hair and makeup? Her giddy behavior? How attached she seems to female friends? She seems like she’s 22 not 34.

I think she acts younger around Travis and yes the giddy behavior is part of it. She comes off as a very young woman without a lot of life experience who adores/looks up to her super successful boyfriend. It feels cringe to me.

It makes me think of when certain friends of mine who were previously very with it and successful started fawning all over a new boyfriend like he invented fire, when they were as if not more accomplished. It feels retrograde and you wonder if they are acting less intelligent or mature in purpose because the guy likes feeling in charge.

This feels mean. When you fall in love, those first several months you are not yourself, and it really happens at every age. Most people falling in love don’t have these big moments captured by a million cameras - but anyone who’s been in a new relationship feels dopey. It’s just usually more private.

Also, you’re not really ever seeing them in a normal situation. He just found out he was going to the Super Bowl, you’re not going to act your chill self.

I agree it feels mean. Look at the Golden Bachelor contestants - many seem like they bonded and are now good friends after spending a few months together. I think this happens when you are in a completely new environment (for you) - you look to people to latch onto as you navigate the situation.

For Taylor, Brittany is the perfect person to help her navigate through the WAG world.

This take is a perfect example of why her behavior feels immature to me. If you were describing a 24 year old, I'd see how this makes sense. You are describing someone a decade older, who has a billion dollars and was just named Time's Person of the Year. Why are you comparing her to contestants on the Golden Bachelor??? Why does she need someone to "latch onto" and navigate being a football girlfriend? Why does she even have to do "football girlfriend" correctly -- she's Taylor Swift, who cares.

Also, to the prior poster, it is not actually necessary for so many of the Travis and Taylor's "key moments" in their relationship to be public. Like sure, her giving him a hug after yesterday's game -- that was going to happen on the field. But most of the personal interactions between them that have been "caught" by the cameras could have happened in private. They are not required to do a pap walk after going to dinner. Travis is not required to greet her in full view of fans and press when she comes off the stage at her show. She is not required to walk through the stadium with him after games. And so on. Many, many famous people manage to date in ways that don't involve being photographed on dates or in private, intimate moments. These people are insanely wealthy -- they just have those moments behind closed doors.

We see this stuff because they want us to see it.

The only "pap walk" after dinner was in NYC in Sept, where the paps follow Taylor 24/7. Find one "pap walk" from Kansas City, where apparently they've been regularly going out to dinner the last few months. Yes, like other famous people they've managed to go on private dates.

Yes, they do have to walk out of the stadium together, since, believe it or not, they are going home together. Because, yes, they really are having a relationship, they really are sleeping together, IT IS ALL REAL.

I'm curious, what other things do you refuse to believe are real?

Santa.

He's real, a friend of Taylor Swift, and a Chiefs fan. Sorry. It's all just one big conspiracy.

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Anonymous wrote:she doesn't really seem like her age if that makes sense

https://twitter.com/tayvisnation/status/1751779290591453281

It does make sense and I totally agree. She seems young for her age. Maybe it’s her hair and makeup? Her giddy behavior? How attached she seems to female friends? She seems like she’s 22 not 34.

I think she acts younger around Travis and yes the giddy behavior is part of it. She comes off as a very young woman without a lot of life experience who adores/looks up to her super successful boyfriend. It feels cringe to me.

It makes me think of when certain friends of mine who were previously very with it and successful started fawning all over a new boyfriend like he invented fire, when they were as if not more accomplished. It feels retrograde and you wonder if they are acting less intelligent or mature in purpose because the guy likes feeling in charge.

This feels mean. When you fall in love, those first several months you are not yourself, and it really happens at every age. Most people falling in love don’t have these big moments captured by a million cameras - but anyone who’s been in a new relationship feels dopey. It’s just usually more private.

Also, you’re not really ever seeing them in a normal situation. He just found out he was going to the Super Bowl, you’re not going to act your chill self.

I agree it feels mean. Look at the Golden Bachelor contestants - many seem like they bonded and are now good friends after spending a few months together. I think this happens when you are in a completely new environment (for you) - you look to people to latch onto as you navigate the situation.

For Taylor, Brittany is the perfect person to help her navigate through the WAG world.

This take is a perfect example of why her behavior feels immature to me. If you were describing a 24 year old, I'd see how this makes sense. You are describing someone a decade older, who has a billion dollars and was just named Time's Person of the Year. Why are you comparing her to contestants on the Golden Bachelor??? Why does she need someone to "latch onto" and navigate being a football girlfriend? Why does she even have to do "football girlfriend" correctly -- she's Taylor Swift, who cares.

Also, to the prior poster, it is not actually necessary for so many of the Travis and Taylor's "key moments" in their relationship to be public. Like sure, her giving him a hug after yesterday's game -- that was going to happen on the field. But most of the personal interactions between them that have been "caught" by the cameras could have happened in private. They are not required to do a pap walk after going to dinner. Travis is not required to greet her in full view of fans and press when she comes off the stage at her show. She is not required to walk through the stadium with him after games. And so on. Many, many famous people manage to date in ways that don't involve being photographed on dates or in private, intimate moments. These people are insanely wealthy -- they just have those moments behind closed doors.

We see this stuff because they want us to see it.

The only "pap walk" after dinner was in NYC in Sept, where the paps follow Taylor 24/7. Find one "pap walk" from Kansas City, where apparently they've been regularly going out to dinner the last few months. Yes, like other famous people they've managed to go on private dates.

Yes, they do have to walk out of the stadium together, since, believe it or not, they are going home together. Because, yes, they really are having a relationship, they really are sleeping together, IT IS ALL REAL.

I'm curious, what other things do you refuse to believe are real?

Santa.

He's real, a friend of Taylor Swift, and a Chiefs fan. Sorry. It's all just one big conspiracy.

If I were one of the people in the bottom of this photo, I would 100% have purchased a print of it from a photo service and had it professionally framed to hang in my power room.

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Anonymous wrote:she doesn't really seem like her age if that makes sense

https://twitter.com/tayvisnation/status/1751779290591453281

It does make sense and I totally agree. She seems young for her age. Maybe it’s her hair and makeup? Her giddy behavior? How attached she seems to female friends? She seems like she’s 22 not 34.

I think she acts younger around Travis and yes the giddy behavior is part of it. She comes off as a very young woman without a lot of life experience who adores/looks up to her super successful boyfriend. It feels cringe to me.

It makes me think of when certain friends of mine who were previously very with it and successful started fawning all over a new boyfriend like he invented fire, when they were as if not more accomplished. It feels retrograde and you wonder if they are acting less intelligent or mature in purpose because the guy likes feeling in charge.

This feels mean. When you fall in love, those first several months you are not yourself, and it really happens at every age. Most people falling in love don’t have these big moments captured by a million cameras - but anyone who’s been in a new relationship feels dopey. It’s just usually more private.

Also, you’re not really ever seeing them in a normal situation. He just found out he was going to the Super Bowl, you’re not going to act your chill self.

I agree it feels mean. Look at the Golden Bachelor contestants - many seem like they bonded and are now good friends after spending a few months together. I think this happens when you are in a completely new environment (for you) - you look to people to latch onto as you navigate the situation.

For Taylor, Brittany is the perfect person to help her navigate through the WAG world.

This take is a perfect example of why her behavior feels immature to me. If you were describing a 24 year old, I'd see how this makes sense. You are describing someone a decade older, who has a billion dollars and was just named Time's Person of the Year. Why are you comparing her to contestants on the Golden Bachelor??? Why does she need someone to "latch onto" and navigate being a football girlfriend? Why does she even have to do "football girlfriend" correctly -- she's Taylor Swift, who cares.

Also, to the prior poster, it is not actually necessary for so many of the Travis and Taylor's "key moments" in their relationship to be public. Like sure, her giving him a hug after yesterday's game -- that was going to happen on the field. But most of the personal interactions between them that have been "caught" by the cameras could have happened in private. They are not required to do a pap walk after going to dinner. Travis is not required to greet her in full view of fans and press when she comes off the stage at her show. She is not required to walk through the stadium with him after games. And so on. Many, many famous people manage to date in ways that don't involve being photographed on dates or in private, intimate moments. These people are insanely wealthy -- they just have those moments behind closed doors.

We see this stuff because they want us to see it.

The only "pap walk" after dinner was in NYC in Sept, where the paps follow Taylor 24/7. Find one "pap walk" from Kansas City, where apparently they've been regularly going out to dinner the last few months. Yes, like other famous people they've managed to go on private dates.

Yes, they do have to walk out of the stadium together, since, believe it or not, they are going home together. Because, yes, they really are having a relationship, they really are sleeping together, IT IS ALL REAL.

I'm curious, what other things do you refuse to believe are real?

Santa.

He's real, a friend of Taylor Swift, and a Chiefs fan. Sorry. It's all just one big conspiracy.

If I were one of the people in the bottom of this photo, I would 100% have purchased a print of it from a photo service and had it professionally framed to hang in my power room.

Powder room, obviously, but also I'd rename my powder room "the power room" because that's where you go to soak up some Taylor Swift/Santa/toddler doing whatever the heck she wants while her mom looks on asking her to stop energy.

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Anonymous wrote:Travis and Jason come from a supportive legit real family. There doesn't seem to be any major conflicts in their family with big and bigger egos.

Your continued use of "legit real family" is starting to gross me out. All families are "real" and "legit." Being a white family from the midwest whose adult sons play pro football does not make you more real and legit, but it really feels like that's what you're trying to say.

You just injected race into the discussion and put words in people’s mouths that they didn’t put there.

Watch the documentary on Jason Kelce and you’ll see that both his parents are incredibly loving and sacrificed financially for their kids. There is a strong and loving family presence there that helped shape their growth. They seem well adjusted thanks to that type of family environment.

I’m sorry you think it’s “racist” to talk about supporting, loving families. Most scientists, or even sociologists, would agree that a stable, loving environment with two parents is a great place to grow up, but you go ahead and write flippant, irreverent and spiteful, snarky, race-baiting internet comments and we’ll all just go on with our lives. Ugh, and I’m liberal. Sorry we’re all not woke enough to comment here.

No, I'm responding to your repeated use of the phrase "legit real family" to describe the Kelces. It's a weird phrasing, especially the word "legit." Why not just say "they seem like a loving, supportive family." That would have been normal. You chose to go with "legit real family." Why? It's weird and absolutely begs the question of what an illegitimate, fake family looks like.

And I’m responding to your patronizing and boring obsession with semantics and policing of words. Who fking cares that that poster wrote “legit” family? They do come from a “legit” family. One that isn’t broken and allowed for an upbringing much less likely to cause personality. I’m sorry you feel the need to give us all a social justice tongue lashing because we didn’t use the correct clinal terminology and it was offensive to you.

I totally agree PP. This is like when people say Kate Middleton is from a legit/normal family and that's one of the things William found appealing.

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Anonymous wrote:I love it all so much! I think they are a great role model for a supportive partnership. I think it is amazing to watch this unfold.

Majority of celebrity relationships are short lived and half truth-half choreographed PR display, unlike genuine relationships you can use as great role models.

Travis and Jason Kelce come from a legit real family, though. Look at their parents. Look at Mama Kelce. Jason and his wife have a legit real family, with legit real kids.

You can't get much more real than who Travis is and where he comes from and where he is now in KCMO. Taylor looks very happy with Travis's family. She seems to get along with Mahomes' wife, who was his high school sweetheart. These aren't your typical Hollywood or NYC people Taylor has spent time with.

Lots of people come from "a legit real family" and then behave differently than their parents or siblings. Especially if in the interim, they become famous pro football stars with tons of money and a lot of women throwing themselves at him.

Travis demonstrated clearly before he started dating Taylor that he is obsessed with attention and being in the spotlight, will happily exploit his personal life for fame and money (e.g. his dating reality show), and that he definitely has a preference for women with similar tendencies.

To me one of the biggest red flags: even though Taylor was more famous and inarguably more successful than Travis before they started dating (definitely financially more successful), it is Taylor who has folded herself around his life, not the other way around. She's attended nearly every one of his games, dressed herself up in his team gear, gotten friendly with his mom, his friend's wives, and the team. Is Travis doing the same thing. Like Taylor and Brittney Mahomes are suddenly BFFs, but is Travis making this effort with Taylor's supposedly close group of friends and their spouses? Did we see him hugging and palling around with Cara Delavigne, is he boosting Selena's makeup line on his socials? No, of course not. This is about Travis -- his career, his family, his friends, his team.

Maybe after the Super Bowl, this reverses and suddenly Travis will be showing up places wearing Era's tour gear and palling around with her friends. But I doubt it. He did a little of that before (wearing the friendship bracelets and going to that show on her South America swing) but don't think he'll ever show up for her the way she's showing up for them. They are actually demonstrating a disturbingly "traditional" relationship where his life and career take precedence and her job is to look pretty and act supportive. Which is frankly disturbing coming from one of the most successful female performing artists of all time, if not THE most successful. I find it weird and uncomfortable to watch her performing "perfect football girlfriend" for him.

Sure, maybe. But I think, based on the evidence/time period we're looking at, I might disagree. She's been on break from the tour for much of the time period they've been together, and he has attended some of her shows during that period. Dec/January = no Eras tour shows, and a few hugely important NFL games. Let's see what happens when she gets busy again; if he's not showing up that might be a red flag.

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This is strictly a business relationship with the NFL. I actually think she'll be so grossed out by this dork in retrospect that she will not write songs about him once they "break up". Or maybe I'm underestimating how shameless she is. She's really going to be 35 years old writing songs about a jock ex boyfriend like a 15 year old girl? Not just cringe, creepy af.

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I don’t think it’s a fake relationship, but I do wonder how much longer she’ll be able to get away with writing breakup songs. That’s all very relatable in one’s teens and 20s, but at some point, don’t even her most ardent fans feel like, “enough is enough, fix your picker, already”?

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Anonymous wrote:Travis and Jason come from a supportive legit real family. There doesn't seem to be any major conflicts in their family with big and bigger egos.

Your continued use of "legit real family" is starting to gross me out. All families are "real" and "legit." Being a white family from the midwest whose adult sons play pro football does not make you more real and legit, but it really feels like that's what you're trying to say.

You just injected race into the discussion and put words in people’s mouths that they didn’t put there.

Watch the documentary on Jason Kelce and you’ll see that both his parents are incredibly loving and sacrificed financially for their kids. There is a strong and loving family presence there that helped shape their growth. They seem well adjusted thanks to that type of family environment.

I’m sorry you think it’s “racist” to talk about supporting, loving families. Most scientists, or even sociologists, would agree that a stable, loving environment with two parents is a great place to grow up, but you go ahead and write flippant, irreverent and spiteful, snarky, race-baiting internet comments and we’ll all just go on with our lives. Ugh, and I’m liberal. Sorry we’re all not woke enough to comment here.

DP

Okay. I’ll watch a PR movie to see how his parents sacrificed for their kids. Plenty of parents sacrificed and not all their kids could earn so much to make a movie about it.

The movies are PR.

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Anonymous wrote:The NFL got what it wanted for the Super Bowl. Doesn’t matter if the Chiefs win or lose now. Millions more people will be tuning in and the NFL will milk it for all it’s worth…

…because Travis and Taylor will inevitably split by the summer — certainly by the beginning of next season. She’s certainly not going to play the googly-eyed cheerleading girlfriend schtick indefinitely.

After this month she will have plenty of fodder with which to write another song (probably an entire album) and profit off it for years to come. He’ll fade into obscurity like most NFL players.

We should bookmark this post. I think it's spot on.

Agree, but with the pretty big caveat that he’s 35 so he’s not going to play the professional football player schtick indefinitely, either. He could two weeks from today.

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Anonymous wrote:she doesn't really seem like her age if that makes sense

https://twitter.com/tayvisnation/status/1751779290591453281

It does make sense and I totally agree. She seems young for her age. Maybe it’s her hair and makeup? Her giddy behavior? How attached she seems to female friends? She seems like she’s 22 not 34.

Took the words right out of my mouth. The giddiness and intensity of her female relationships at a fast pace is what I picked up on. She's an enigma for me. She's intelligent and business oriented but still seems emotionally stunted in candid moments.

Close friendships with women is now immature behavior? Seems completely normal to me at any age. Taylor’s friends are all around her age and have money to travel to these types of events.

NP and it’s not that they are close relationships but seem attached and intense. Like she’s known Brittany for 7 months and they are attached at the hip. That reminds me of when you go to college and latch on to friends quickly. But most people are 18 when that happens.

+1, the way she becomes friends with other women seems immature to me. I have known women like this, who become "besties" with someone they've hung out with a handful of times or will consider any women they know at all a "good friend." It comes off as shallow and false and IME usually is -- circumstances will change a little and suddenly it will be "her? Oh I barely know her."

It's hard to try and pin point the cause since she's been groomed for fame since she was a young child. it could be shes stunted from fame or ot could be something more. My daughter has intense friendships like this but she has high functioning autism. She's good at masking so you can't really tell somethings different unless you're around her a lot.

Just something to think about. I wouldn't judge Taylor too harshly over being socially awkward.

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Anonymous wrote:Travis and Jason come from a supportive legit real family. There doesn't seem to be any major conflicts in their family with big and bigger egos.

Your continued use of "legit real family" is starting to gross me out. All families are "real" and "legit." Being a white family from the midwest whose adult sons play pro football does not make you more real and legit, but it really feels like that's what you're trying to say.

You just injected race into the discussion and put words in people’s mouths that they didn’t put there.

Watch the documentary on Jason Kelce and you’ll see that both his parents are incredibly loving and sacrificed financially for their kids. There is a strong and loving family presence there that helped shape their growth. They seem well adjusted thanks to that type of family environment.

I’m sorry you think it’s “racist” to talk about supporting, loving families. Most scientists, or even sociologists, would agree that a stable, loving environment with two parents is a great place to grow up, but you go ahead and write flippant, irreverent and spiteful, snarky, race-baiting internet comments and we’ll all just go on with our lives. Ugh, and I’m liberal. Sorry we’re all not woke enough to comment here.

DP

Okay. I’ll watch a PR movie to see how his parents sacrificed for their kids. Plenty of parents sacrificed and not all their kids could earn so much to make a movie about it.

The movies are PR.

In fact the people who sacrificed the most for their kids are probably immigrants. They are “legit real families” too
- signed first gen white American