Travis and Taylor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a fake relationship, but I do wonder how much longer she’ll be able to get away with writing breakup songs. That’s all very relatable in one’s teens and 20s, but at some point, don’t even her most ardent fans feel like, “enough is enough, fix your picker, already”?

Most of her songs are not breakup songs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Travis and Jason come from a supportive legit real family. There doesn't seem to be any major conflicts in their family with big and bigger egos.

Your continued use of "legit real family" is starting to gross me out. All families are "real" and "legit." Being a white family from the midwest whose adult sons play pro football does not make you more real and legit, but it really feels like that's what you're trying to say.

In comparison to the RBF, the Royal British Family, the Kelce's are a legit real family. That's all I meant. Legit real family. That means the parents (in this case, both bio parents, but not important) clearly are supportive of both their sons. The oldest brother Jason (unlike William and Harry) clearly has supported and even guided and mentored his youngest brother.

That's what I meant by legit real family. You took that way out of context.

[Anonymous]

He just found out he was going to the Super Bowl, you’re not going to act your chill self.

This is like his 4th trip to the superbowl in 5 years. It's not a novelty. She is acting like she is his wife of 10 years who has seen him through thick and thin. She's his girlfriend of like what, 6 weeks. It's not her party. She needs to stop acting like a stage 5 clinger it's so embarassing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Travis and Jason come from a supportive legit real family. There doesn't seem to be any major conflicts in their family with big and bigger egos.

Your continued use of "legit real family" is starting to gross me out. All families are "real" and "legit." Being a white family from the midwest whose adult sons play pro football does not make you more real and legit, but it really feels like that's what you're trying to say.

In comparison to the RBF, the Royal British Family, the Kelce's are a legit real family. That's all I meant. Legit real family. That means the parents (in this case, both bio parents, but not important) clearly are supportive of both their sons. The oldest brother Jason (unlike William and Harry) clearly has supported and even guided and mentored his youngest brother.

That's what I meant by legit real family. You took that way out of context.

And Travis is going to choose a woman who will fit in with his family. I'm sure Taylor Swift is having fun. She's not being a snob with the Kelce family. That would be hard to hide in those stadium box seats. She looks like she's enjoying herself. I would imagine the Kelce family is a lot of fun, but not all women would think so.

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Anonymous wrote:she doesn't really seem like her age if that makes sense

https://twitter.com/tayvisnation/status/1751779290591453281

It does make sense and I totally agree. She seems young for her age. Maybe it’s her hair and makeup? Her giddy behavior? How attached she seems to female friends? She seems like she’s 22 not 34.

I think she acts younger around Travis and yes the giddy behavior is part of it. She comes off as a very young woman without a lot of life experience who adores/looks up to her super successful boyfriend. It feels cringe to me.

It makes me think of when certain friends of mine who were previously very with it and successful started fawning all over a new boyfriend like he invented fire, when they were as if not more accomplished. It feels retrograde and you wonder if they are acting less intelligent or mature in purpose because the guy likes feeling in charge.

This feels mean. When you fall in love, those first several months you are not yourself, and it really happens at every age. Most people falling in love don’t have these big moments captured by a million cameras - but anyone who’s been in a new relationship feels dopey. It’s just usually more private.

Also, you’re not really ever seeing them in a normal situation. He just found out he was going to the Super Bowl, you’re not going to act your chill self.

I agree it feels mean. Look at the Golden Bachelor contestants - many seem like they bonded and are now good friends after spending a few months together. I think this happens when you are in a completely new environment (for you) - you look to people to latch onto as you navigate the situation.

For Taylor, Brittany is the perfect person to help her navigate through the WAG world.

This take is a perfect example of why her behavior feels immature to me. If you were describing a 24 year old, I'd see how this makes sense. You are describing someone a decade older, who has a billion dollars and was just named Time's Person of the Year. Why are you comparing her to contestants on the Golden Bachelor??? Why does she need someone to "latch onto" and navigate being a football girlfriend? Why does she even have to do "football girlfriend" correctly -- she's Taylor Swift, who cares.

Also, to the prior poster, it is not actually necessary for so many of the Travis and Taylor's "key moments" in their relationship to be public. Like sure, her giving him a hug after yesterday's game -- that was going to happen on the field. But most of the personal interactions between them that have been "caught" by the cameras could have happened in private. They are not required to do a pap walk after going to dinner. Travis is not required to greet her in full view of fans and press when she comes off the stage at her show. She is not required to walk through the stadium with him after games. And so on. Many, many famous people manage to date in ways that don't involve being photographed on dates or in private, intimate moments. These people are insanely wealthy -- they just have those moments behind closed doors.

We see this stuff because they want us to see it.

The only "pap walk" after dinner was in NYC in Sept, where the paps follow Taylor 24/7. Find one "pap walk" from Kansas City, where apparently they've been regularly going out to dinner the last few months. Yes, like other famous people they've managed to go on private dates.

Yes, they do have to walk out of the stadium together, since, believe it or not, they are going home together. Because, yes, they really are having a relationship, they really are sleeping together, IT IS ALL REAL.

I'm curious, what other things do you refuse to believe are real?

Then how come the other players don't do a pap walk with their wives, girlfriends, parents, etc after each game? Like, is she incapable of watching the game and then heading out and meeting him at home after he hangs out with his teammates in the locker room for 5 minutes and then heads out with them, like pretty much every other player on the team throughout history? Again, they've been dating for barely 2 months, it's embarassing to watch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The NFL got what it wanted for the Super Bowl. Doesn’t matter if the Chiefs win or lose now. Millions more people will be tuning in and the NFL will milk it for all it’s worth…

…because Travis and Taylor will inevitably split by the summer — certainly by the beginning of next season. She’s certainly not going to play the googly-eyed cheerleading girlfriend schtick indefinitely.

After this month she will have plenty of fodder with which to write another song (probably an entire album) and profit off it for years to come. He’ll fade into obscurity like most NFL players.

Taylor, in 5 months, tooling around on the piano:

I hitched a ride on your shooting star
Not knowing where it would take me
A box in the sky isn't as high as you think
But when I fell, well, it was gonna break me
I wanted to be your girl, your heart
Bleeding red whether you won or lost
The planes, the games, the after party
The money didn't matter; I didn't know what it'd cost

Maybe she's playing the young, adoring girlfriend because she knows this will make it more believable to her fans when she inevitably writes a breakup song that casts her as the victim. It only makes sense if you forget that she's incredibly powerful and in control of her life, so she has to convince everyone she's just a girl, standing in front of a boy, hoping he'll invite her to sit in his family's box at the big game.

I love your song, hahahaha. It's so spot on. She is gonna lift that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a fake relationship, but I do wonder how much longer she’ll be able to get away with writing breakup songs. That’s all very relatable in one’s teens and 20s, but at some point, don’t even her most ardent fans feel like, “enough is enough, fix your picker, already”?

Most of her songs are not breakup songs.

I mean, the ones I can think of off the top of my head are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a fake relationship, but I do wonder how much longer she’ll be able to get away with writing breakup songs. That’s all very relatable in one’s teens and 20s, but at some point, don’t even her most ardent fans feel like, “enough is enough, fix your picker, already”?

Most of her songs are not breakup songs.

The PP didn't say "how much longer will she be able to get away with writing breakup songs exclusively, and no other songs about any other topic ever?"

She is best known for writing music about failed relationships, and then behind that probably writing songs about feeling like people pick on her or don't like her (Shake it Off, Antihero, etc.). But first for the breakup songs.

Will she change that narrative? Will she settle down with Travis or someone else, or even just stop using her relationships for this kind of artistic fodder? Or will she keep it up?

I mean, older musicians also write break up songs. But they are different than Taylor's have been to this point. Taylor has written exclusively about the kind of romantic relationships she's actually been in, which have been relatively short lived, often intense in the way young love is often intense at first, but then also ending before things get real complicated (before marriage, kids, before you get truly bored with each other, etc.). Usually when an artist is writing about breaks ups in their late 30s or later, they are writing about more complex, deeper relationships. Not someone they dated for a few months or even a few years, and never committed to in any way deeper than making vacation plans several months in advance.

[Anonymous]

If you can do it better, you are invited to go ahead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He just found out he was going to the Super Bowl, you’re not going to act your chill self.

This is like his 4th trip to the superbowl in 5 years. It's not a novelty. She is acting like she is his wife of 10 years who has seen him through thick and thin. She's his girlfriend of like what, 6 weeks. It's not her party. She needs to stop acting like a stage 5 clinger it's so embarassing.

Yeah, I'm sure he wasn't excited at all. But in this clip he seems pretty happy, especially when he sees his girlfriend of 6 MONTHS, who he can't let go of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you can do it better, you are invited to go ahead.

Do what better?

Most people never get the opportunity Taylor Swift has. That's why she invites so much criticism (well that and other things). But it's totally valid for someone to look at her career trajectory, her artistic output, and offer criticism. There are actually LOTS of songwriters and musicians who write music that might be more resonant and interesting, or artistically impressive, than Taylor. I know some of you don't believe that, but there are. But Taylor Swift is an international pop star with a well-oiled branding machine and a huge audience. She has that because of a combination of hard work/talent (I don't think anyone would deny Taylor has both) AND good fortune in the form of looks, family support, the right timing, etc. No one gets to Taylor's level without both.

So yes, people get to sit back and say "I wish she'd do X instead of Y" or "I'm sick of her music sounding like this, I wish she'd do something else" or whatever they want. Because there are only a handful of musicians who get to the level Taylor is at, and what comes with that is everyone looking at you and criticizing what you are doing and judging. It's just how it goes.

She really does not need you to protect her from it. It's part of what she bought into when she pursued this level of fame. And she did. pursue it, aggressively, for two decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He just found out he was going to the Super Bowl, you’re not going to act your chill self.

This is like his 4th trip to the superbowl in 5 years. It's not a novelty. She is acting like she is his wife of 10 years who has seen him through thick and thin. She's his girlfriend of like what, 6 weeks. It's not her party. She needs to stop acting like a stage 5 clinger it's so embarassing.

No your post is "embarassing"

Please grow up.
MYOB

And suck it.

Honestly MAGA/Republican obsession with her shows how utterly stupid they are.

Taylor is a home grown business woman who has helped the NFL sell a ton of seats. They should be thanking her.

According to Republicans football would be dead when they stopped watching after that guy who kneeled ie first amendment protest only for MAGA MORONS. Defintiely morons given they want a dictator installed and if they think any protesting will be allowed again iditots.

What do you not understand how many seats Taylor has sold for the NFL? And viewership for advertizers?

Again Taylor is not the problem the media and Republicans are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s a fake relationship, but I do wonder how much longer she’ll be able to get away with writing breakup songs. That’s all very relatable in one’s teens and 20s, but at some point, don’t even her most ardent fans feel like, “enough is enough, fix your picker, already”?

Most of her songs are not breakup songs.

The PP didn't say "how much longer will she be able to get away with writing breakup songs exclusively, and no other songs about any other topic ever?"

She is best known for writing music about failed relationships, and then behind that probably writing songs about feeling like people pick on her or don't like her (Shake it Off, Antihero, etc.). But first for the breakup songs.

Will she change that narrative? Will she settle down with Travis or someone else, or even just stop using her relationships for this kind of artistic fodder? Or will she keep it up?

I mean, older musicians also write break up songs. But they are different than Taylor's have been to this point. Taylor has written exclusively about the kind of romantic relationships she's actually been in, which have been relatively short lived, often intense in the way young love is often intense at first, but then also ending before things get real complicated (before marriage, kids, before you get truly bored with each other, etc.). Usually when an artist is writing about breaks ups in their late 30s or later, they are writing about more complex, deeper relationships. Not someone they dated for a few months or even a few years, and never committed to in any way deeper than making vacation plans several months in advance.

This isn't true. She has written entire albums about relationships she wasn't in and most recently got out of a six-ish year one. I am not some kind of Taylor stan but at least check your facts.

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Anonymous wrote:she doesn't really seem like her age if that makes sense

https://twitter.com/tayvisnation/status/1751779290591453281

It does make sense and I totally agree. She seems young for her age. Maybe it’s her hair and makeup? Her giddy behavior? How attached she seems to female friends? She seems like she’s 22 not 34.

I think she acts younger around Travis and yes the giddy behavior is part of it. She comes off as a very young woman without a lot of life experience who adores/looks up to her super successful boyfriend. It feels cringe to me.

It makes me think of when certain friends of mine who were previously very with it and successful started fawning all over a new boyfriend like he invented fire, when they were as if not more accomplished. It feels retrograde and you wonder if they are acting less intelligent or mature in purpose because the guy likes feeling in charge.

This feels mean. When you fall in love, those first several months you are not yourself, and it really happens at every age. Most people falling in love don’t have these big moments captured by a million cameras - but anyone who’s been in a new relationship feels dopey. It’s just usually more private.

Also, you’re not really ever seeing them in a normal situation. He just found out he was going to the Super Bowl, you’re not going to act your chill self.

I agree it feels mean. Look at the Golden Bachelor contestants - many seem like they bonded and are now good friends after spending a few months together. I think this happens when you are in a completely new environment (for you) - you look to people to latch onto as you navigate the situation.

For Taylor, Brittany is the perfect person to help her navigate through the WAG world.

This take is a perfect example of why her behavior feels immature to me. If you were describing a 24 year old, I'd see how this makes sense. You are describing someone a decade older, who has a billion dollars and was just named Time's Person of the Year. Why are you comparing her to contestants on the Golden Bachelor??? Why does she need someone to "latch onto" and navigate being a football girlfriend? Why does she even have to do "football girlfriend" correctly -- she's Taylor Swift, who cares.

Also, to the prior poster, it is not actually necessary for so many of the Travis and Taylor's "key moments" in their relationship to be public. Like sure, her giving him a hug after yesterday's game -- that was going to happen on the field. But most of the personal interactions between them that have been "caught" by the cameras could have happened in private. They are not required to do a pap walk after going to dinner. Travis is not required to greet her in full view of fans and press when she comes off the stage at her show. She is not required to walk through the stadium with him after games. And so on. Many, many famous people manage to date in ways that don't involve being photographed on dates or in private, intimate moments. These people are insanely wealthy -- they just have those moments behind closed doors.

We see this stuff because they want us to see it.

The only "pap walk" after dinner was in NYC in Sept, where the paps follow Taylor 24/7. Find one "pap walk" from Kansas City, where apparently they've been regularly going out to dinner the last few months. Yes, like other famous people they've managed to go on private dates.

Yes, they do have to walk out of the stadium together, since, believe it or not, they are going home together. Because, yes, they really are having a relationship, they really are sleeping together, IT IS ALL REAL.

I'm curious, what other things do you refuse to believe are real?

Then how come the other players don't do a pap walk with their wives, girlfriends, parents, etc after each game? Like, is she incapable of watching the game and then heading out and meeting him at home after he hangs out with his teammates in the locker room for 5 minutes and then heads out with them, like pretty much every other player on the team throughout history? Again, they've been dating for barely 2 months, it's embarassing to watch.

She could do it that way, but she doesn't want to. Her fans want to see her hamming it up in custom Cheifs gear in the boxes, out on the field, leaving the stadium together, etc. She's giving her fans what they want. She doesn't GAF if her non-fans find any of this cringe or annoying; why should she?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:she doesn't really seem like her age if that makes sense

https://twitter.com/tayvisnation/status/1751779290591453281

It does make sense and I totally agree. She seems young for her age. Maybe it’s her hair and makeup? Her giddy behavior? How attached she seems to female friends? She seems like she’s 22 not 34.

Took the words right out of my mouth. The giddiness and intensity of her female relationships at a fast pace is what I picked up on. She's an enigma for me. She's intelligent and business oriented but still seems emotionally stunted in candid moments.

Close friendships with women is now immature behavior? Seems completely normal to me at any age. Taylor’s friends are all around her age and have money to travel to these types of events.

NP and it’s not that they are close relationships but seem attached and intense. Like she’s known Brittany for 7 months and they are attached at the hip. That reminds me of when you go to college and latch on to friends quickly. But most people are 18 when that happens.

+1, the way she becomes friends with other women seems immature to me. I have known women like this, who become "besties" with someone they've hung out with a handful of times or will consider any women they know at all a "good friend." It comes off as shallow and false and IME usually is -- circumstances will change a little and suddenly it will be "her? Oh I barely know her."

That's probably the most obvious part this is all fake. She ain't besties or genuinely enjoying time with unemployed jersey-chasing bumpkins in Missouri. No chance. Look at her real friends; they're all worldly and sophisticated. And we're to believe she's having the time of her life with dumb bimbos married to dumb jocks in flyover country? lol