Jen Hatmaker

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the issue here about the affirmation isn't to call out her change of opinion- which yes, is not uncommon at all and is in fact the status quo among progressive Christians. Maybe the problem if when someone has a change of heart and immediately claims to "hate" the 50 percent or so of Christians who think like she did last week!
Also, as is often sadly the case, on the heels of "deconstruction" seems to have come "disolution"- changes in expression(cringy frequent profanity), announcing that church isn't necessary, and basically acting as though her faith has a very small place in her head. This is happening with a lot of celebrity Christians theses days and leads me to think that some of them only hung onto Christianity as long as things went well for them. When life lets them down, there's nothing there, showing that they are just as much a victim of "American Christianity" and the prosperity/personal happiness thing as the poor dumb Evangelicals that they scorn.

It’s a common tale. Back in the 90s and 2000s there was no real downside for celebrities, culturally, to being a Christian, even a conservative ones with conservative values. Now days, though, there is a huge downside for celebrities and people in the media
saying things like sex before marriage is a sin, that even a thing like ‘sin’ exists, that human life begins at conception, that Christ and Christi alone saves sinners, etc. Nothing will get you immediately dismissed from elite circles than believing and saying such horrifically unfashionable things. Therefore, we are seeing is a mass abandonment from such beliefs among formally “Christian Celebrities”. Basically, no one wants to be the weirdo and outside the mainstream looking in, especially ambitious social climber types. The thirst for public approval for folks such as these is just too intense.

White evangelical American Christianity aligned itself with Trump and crowned him savior, at the very least neglected to speak out against how many Christians were aligning him with the beliefs. Many people have scrambled to get as far away from that version of Christianity as possible. Jen was obviously going through a personal reckoning with her faith during this time, but many Christians were ostracized by Trumpism. I hate it when people act like they are some sort of martyr or that Christianity is in any way persecuted in America. I was someone who was drawn to Jen’s platform because she was one of the first and the loudest Christian voices to take a stand against the glorification of Trump. It was bold at the time, given her audience. Comparing her to non-Christians or mainstream celebrities isn’t quite apples to apples. Hers was a distinctly Christian voice. Fast forward to current times, her appeal is watered down by the promo codes and the her lack of relatability, but I’m not furious with her about any of it. I take what works for me and leave the rest. For goodness sake’s, unfollow the woman. She doesn’t owe any of us anything. If you feel betrayed, that’s on you for giving a stranger that much of your emotional energy.

Weird comment. Why bring the ex president into this? Especially as not a lot of people in this thread voted for him?

[Anonymous]

I just saw that she’s interviewing Beto. He’s sandwiched between Able ads, but still… I’m thankful she’s using her voice and her platform for Texans. This makes up for the Me Camp nonsense. This is important work during a crucial time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the issue here about the affirmation isn't to call out her change of opinion- which yes, is not uncommon at all and is in fact the status quo among progressive Christians. Maybe the problem if when someone has a change of heart and immediately claims to "hate" the 50 percent or so of Christians who think like she did last week!
Also, as is often sadly the case, on the heels of "deconstruction" seems to have come "disolution"- changes in expression(cringy frequent profanity), announcing that church isn't necessary, and basically acting as though her faith has a very small place in her head. This is happening with a lot of celebrity Christians theses days and leads me to think that some of them only hung onto Christianity as long as things went well for them. When life lets them down, there's nothing there, showing that they are just as much a victim of "American Christianity" and the prosperity/personal happiness thing as the poor dumb Evangelicals that they scorn.

It’s a common tale. Back in the 90s and 2000s there was no real downside for celebrities, culturally, to being a Christian, even a conservative ones with conservative values. Now days, though, there is a huge downside for celebrities and people in the media
saying things like sex before marriage is a sin, that even a thing like ‘sin’ exists, that human life begins at conception, that Christ and Christi alone saves sinners, etc. Nothing will get you immediately dismissed from elite circles than believing and saying such horrifically unfashionable things. Therefore, we are seeing is a mass abandonment from such beliefs among formally “Christian Celebrities”. Basically, no one wants to be the weirdo and outside the mainstream looking in, especially ambitious social climber types. The thirst for public approval for folks such as these is just too intense.

White evangelical American Christianity aligned itself with Trump and crowned him savior, at the very least neglected to speak out against how many Christians were aligning him with the beliefs. Many people have scrambled to get as far away from that version of Christianity as possible. Jen was obviously going through a personal reckoning with her faith during this time, but many Christians were ostracized by Trumpism. I hate it when people act like they are some sort of martyr or that Christianity is in any way persecuted in America. I was someone who was drawn to Jen’s platform because she was one of the first and the loudest Christian voices to take a stand against the glorification of Trump. It was bold at the time, given her audience. Comparing her to non-Christians or mainstream celebrities isn’t quite apples to apples. Hers was a distinctly Christian voice. Fast forward to current times, her appeal is watered down by the promo codes and the her lack of relatability, but I’m not furious with her about any of it. I take what works for me and leave the rest. For goodness sake’s, unfollow the woman. She doesn’t owe any of us anything. If you feel betrayed, that’s on you for giving a stranger that much of your emotional energy.

Weird comment. Why bring the ex president into this? Especially as not a lot of people in this thread voted for him?

This thread has taken an anti-LGBTQIA turn and there have been several comments about Jen speaking out against Trump and those who voted for him. There’s a bitterness around this topic. It’s relevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just saw that she’s interviewing Beto. He’s sandwiched between Able ads, but still… I’m thankful she’s using her voice and her platform for Texans. This makes up for the Me Camp nonsense. This is important work during a crucial time.

This is where her jack-of-all-trades-get-her-toes-in-everything angle could get dicey.

A nonprofit organization may not financially support or endorse any political candidates. They may not oppose candidates either. I realize she isn't "the nonprofit organization" but she is the founder, the Chief Outreach Office and the voice of LC. Her love for Beto and disdain for our former president isn't a secret. Generally, that wouldn't be an issue, but it's not a good look for Legacy Collective to cross any perceived lines into politics. Pick your lane, Jen.

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Anonymous wrote:Who’s going to Jen’s house for dinner?

So I am sick of this.

Yup. It’s Brandon.

Legacy Collective is legit. Totally transparent for donors. Do your research. Pure, Inc DBA as Pure Charity. Stop your conjecture. Neither Jen nor I make zero dollars off donations. I personally volunteered for three years to start the initiative. It does amazing work. And is incredibly effective. Stop the witch hunt. Jen is the real deal. And so is Legacy Collective. Shame on you for your unfounded accusations.

Remember when Brandon supposedly posted this comment. It was like 50+ pages into the thread. If what he’s saying is true why can’t we find transparent info. on legacy collective? What exactly went into that 28% overhead?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who’s going to Jen’s house for dinner?

So I am sick of this.

Yup. It’s Brandon.

Legacy Collective is legit. Totally transparent for donors. Do your research. Pure, Inc DBA as Pure Charity. Stop your conjecture. Neither Jen nor I make zero dollars off donations. I personally volunteered for three years to start the initiative. It does amazing work. And is incredibly effective. Stop the witch hunt. Jen is the real deal. And so is Legacy Collective. Shame on you for your unfounded accusations.

Remember when Brandon supposedly posted this comment. It was like 50+ pages into the thread. If what he’s saying is true why can’t we find transparent info. on legacy collective? What exactly went into that 28% overhead?

It’s that nagging “etc.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: It’s a common tale. Back in the 90s and 2000s there was no real downside for celebrities, culturally, to being a Christian, even a conservative ones with conservative values. Now days, though, there is a huge downside for celebrities and people in the media
saying things like sex before marriage is a sin, that even a thing like ‘sin’ exists, that human life begins at conception, that Christ and Christi alone saves sinners, etc. Nothing will get you immediately dismissed from elite circles than believing and saying such horrifically unfashionable things. Therefore, we are seeing is a mass abandonment from such beliefs among formally “Christian Celebrities”. Basically, no one wants to be the weirdo and outside the mainstream looking in, especially ambitious social climber types. The thirst for public approval for folks such as these is just too intense.

White evangelical American Christianity aligned itself with Trump and crowned him savior, at the very least neglected to speak out against how many Christians were aligning him with the beliefs. Many people have scrambled to get as far away from that version of Christianity as possible. Jen was obviously going through a personal reckoning with her faith during this time, but many Christians were ostracized by Trumpism. I hate it when people act like they are some sort of martyr or that Christianity is in any way persecuted in America. I was someone who was drawn to Jen’s platform because she was one of the first and the loudest Christian voices to take a stand against the glorification of Trump. It was bold at the time, given her audience. Comparing her to non-Christians or mainstream celebrities isn’t quite apples to apples. Hers was a distinctly Christian voice. Fast forward to current times, her appeal is watered down by the promo codes and the her lack of relatability, but I’m not furious with her about any of it. I take what works for me and leave the rest. For goodness sake’s, unfollow the woman. She doesn’t owe any of us anything. If you feel betrayed, that’s on you for giving a stranger that much of your emotional energy.

Hard agree about Jen’s early courage to disavow Trump and the sad but laughable idea that Christians are persecuted here.

Also, I just love the refrain about LGBTQ+ issues of “So 2,000 years of Christians were wrong?”
Many of them, yes - just like slavery and women's right to vote/participate in leadership, etc. Our knowledge and ethics evolve over time. That is not a threat to following Jesus. The universe moves forward, not backward. God either doesn’t exist or is inviting us to participate in that. Christianity is not about where we go when we die. It’s about being the kingdom of Heaven here.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who’s going to Jen’s house for dinner?

So I am sick of this.

Yup. It’s Brandon.

Legacy Collective is legit. Totally transparent for donors. Do your research. Pure, Inc DBA as Pure Charity. Stop your conjecture. Neither Jen nor I make zero dollars off donations. I personally volunteered for three years to start the initiative. It does amazing work. And is incredibly effective. Stop the witch hunt. Jen is the real deal. And so is Legacy Collective. Shame on you for your unfounded accusations.

^^^ THE (IN)FAMOUS BRANDON POST

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Anonymous wrote:Ok help me understand the Grim Guardians. It’s a bunch of Christian guys who raise money for children in need but they were costumes of black leather, chains, tattoos like real criminal biker gangs. They look so indistinguishable from hardened criminal bikers that Jen’s brother got arrested along with a couple others when a massive fight broke out between 2 rival biker gangs that killed several plus left many more injured. This was all over the news cause of the number of fatalities. The poor Waco police showed up at this restaurant that the gangs frequent and it was like bullets and knives everywhere. For some unknown reason the sweet Christian biker gang dudes showed up abd were wrongly assumed to be a part of the criminal gangs by the cops in the heat of the moment. So Jen’s bro and his buddies sit down behind the cops to show they aren’t a part of the madness. Well the cops arrest them too cause they are dressed just like the real McCoy. One of their patches was of a half skull half Viking warrior cap. They were really trying to look the part. So these guys are now suing the police department a BILLION dollars for false arrest and damage to their reputations. This info is all available online in news articles. Who are these entitled people? Why do they think it’s ok to ride their bikes into a known criminal biker gang place and then sue the cops, who were trying to save lives, for mistaking them for potential criminals. Your average dude doesn’t need to pose like a part criminal biker gang to feel manly. And for the love don’t sue the good guys who actually are the brave ones putting their lives at risk every single day. So it looks like Jen’s baby brother shares her sense of exceptionalism and knows a good money making opportunity when he sees it.

WHOA MY TONGUE IS BURNING FROM THIS TEA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So Glennon created together rising as her big charity that she and her sister use to doll out millions to worthy causes and Jen has legacy collective. Is it a part of the celebrity influencer package to have your own charity to virtue signal your superior care of the world? Jen was just gushing about the money her charity raised for Ukraine. It felt completely disingenuous like it’s all a game to build her brand as a do-gooder.
Why would Brandon start a new charity? What don’t I understand about these charities? Why must these self aggrandizing people all have one?

Call me cynical but for the same reasons politicians all have “foundations”. Money laundering and tax sheltering.
Haven’t you guys seen Ozark??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: There were definitely different camps at ANC. Looking back, it was never one cohesive loving church. It was fake AF. Jen just barely tolerated it. She had her clique and big earrings and got the eff out of there as soon as she could after every service.

So, everything in Seven re: ANC should be read as "my minions did the hard work and I showed up for the heart-warming self-aggrandizing stories about little girls and pink purses"?
This realization must make her readers of good will so sad. And resentful.

Yes. But not before she posed for Instagram.

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Anonymous wrote:I know this is off topic and a bit snarky but Brandon's new girlfriend has huge eyelashes, huge boobs, and huge front teeth. Wow.

Nice try.

😂🤣😂😆

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just saw that she’s interviewing Beto. He’s sandwiched between Able ads, but still… I’m thankful she’s using her voice and her platform for Texans. This makes up for the Me Camp nonsense. This is important work during a crucial time.

Seriously? Beto is such a douchebag poser bro I’m surprised he doesn’t try to tie his skateboard to Brandon’s Harley on the weekends.

All politicians are …. Politicians. Always looking out for #1 and always for sale, just like Big Sis. Don’t fool yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not including Jen there are five people "on staff". Not sure that they're part time or how they're compensated but that sounds sort like quite a heavy spend if their donations were $1.5M last year and only $486K was for overhead.

So donate to LC. 70% hopefully goes to a charity. Then that charity takes another 20% off for their admin costs.
So if you’re lucky .50 of every dollar actually goes to charity.
What a great idea!