| When do you guys think the shutdown will end? | 
						
 Someone above said Nov 16 with no explanation or details. lol. Just a guess?  | 
							
						
 Just prior to Thanksgiving, but after the Nov 21 CR expires. The House will need to come back and put something else together.  | 
							
						
 Exactly. This is what MAGA wants. No federal government. We can all just pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and get into our wagons if we want to travel.  | 
							
						
 Thune is “optimistic” for this week. It’s in The Hill. No idea if that is real or just him trying to make it seem like they have a plan.  | 
							
						
 No way they're doing it right before Thanksgiving travel. I think they'll want a little more lead time. I can see Nov. 16.  | 
						
 Nov 6 according to water cooler talk at my agency.  | 
							
						
 What was the rationale? I thought an upthread PP’s guess between the end of CR w d thanksywas good. Seems like a PR win-win for both sides.  | 
							
						
 They seem to think tomorrow’s elections will be some kind of turning point.  | 
							
						
 He’s not very convincing. Ever. About anything. Empty suit.  | 
						Once democrats grow up, decide to get up off their ass, and prioritize America and the American values that are the foundation of MAGA.  | 
							
						
 You are right, but Dems have an often misunderstood (or ignore) what the people are trying to say. Most notably what independents want. The Dems win but believe they have a mandate for everything they’re putting forth and then we get … Trump 1.0. Then to moderate that we get Biden. Then Trump 2.0. We’ll get Dem XYZ next but they’ll misread the people again. Ugh.  | 
							
						
 American values, like the freedom to live how you want without the government telling you how you should run your life?  | 
							
						
 Wait. Democrats have been in DC this whole time while GOP are home jerking off. They aren’t even holding town halls! How are Dems lazy? I don’t expect an answer from this because I know, something something, socialist, something something.  | 
							
						
 Just has very “you made me angry so now I’m going to hit you”vibes. We live in a two party system. If you are lucky, you get to occasionally vote for someone you like. If not you vote for the lesser of two evils. And you certainly don’t vote for someone who says they will be a dictator on day one.  |