Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:she doesn't really seem like her age if that makes sense

https://twitter.com/tayvisnation/status/1751779290591453281

It does make sense and I totally agree. She seems young for her age. Maybe it’s her hair and makeup? Her giddy behavior? How attached she seems to female friends? She seems like she’s 22 not 34.

I think she acts younger around Travis and yes the giddy behavior is part of it. She comes off as a very young woman without a lot of life experience who adores/looks up to her super successful boyfriend. It feels cringe to me.

It makes me think of when certain friends of mine who were previously very with it and successful started fawning all over a new boyfriend like he invented fire, when they were as if not more accomplished. It feels retrograde and you wonder if they are acting less intelligent or mature in purpose because the guy likes feeling in charge.

This feels mean. When you fall in love, those first several months you are not yourself, and it really happens at every age. Most people falling in love don’t have these big moments captured by a million cameras - but anyone who’s been in a new relationship feels dopey. It’s just usually more private.

Also, you’re not really ever seeing them in a normal situation. He just found out he was going to the Super Bowl, you’re not going to act your chill self.

I agree it feels mean. Look at the Golden Bachelor contestants - many seem like they bonded and are now good friends after spending a few months together. I think this happens when you are in a completely new environment (for you) - you look to people to latch onto as you navigate the situation.

For Taylor, Brittany is the perfect person to help her navigate through the WAG world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love it all so much! I think they are a great role model for a supportive partnership. I think it is amazing to watch this unfold.

Majority of celebrity relationships are short lived and half truth-half choreographed PR display, unlike genuine relationships you can use as great role models.

Travis and Jason Kelce come from a legit real family, though. Look at their parents. Look at Mama Kelce. Jason and his wife have a legit real family, with legit real kids.

You can't get much more real than who Travis is and where he comes from and where he is now in KCMO. Taylor looks very happy with Travis's family. She seems to get along with Mahomes' wife, who was his high school sweetheart. These aren't your typical Hollywood or NYC people Taylor has spent time with.

Lots of people come from "a legit real family" and then behave differently than their parents or siblings. Especially if in the interim, they become famous pro football stars with tons of money and a lot of women throwing themselves at him.

Travis demonstrated clearly before he started dating Taylor that he is obsessed with attention and being in the spotlight, will happily exploit his personal life for fame and money (e.g. his dating reality show), and that he definitely has a preference for women with similar tendencies.

To me one of the biggest red flags: even though Taylor was more famous and inarguably more successful than Travis before they started dating (definitely financially more successful), it is Taylor who has folded herself around his life, not the other way around. She's attended nearly every one of his games, dressed herself up in his team gear, gotten friendly with his mom, his friend's wives, and the team. Is Travis doing the same thing. Like Taylor and Brittney Mahomes are suddenly BFFs, but is Travis making this effort with Taylor's supposedly close group of friends and their spouses? Did we see him hugging and palling around with Cara Delavigne, is he boosting Selena's makeup line on his socials? No, of course not. This is about Travis -- his career, his family, his friends, his team.

Maybe after the Super Bowl, this reverses and suddenly Travis will be showing up places wearing Era's tour gear and palling around with her friends. But I doubt it. He did a little of that before (wearing the friendship bracelets and going to that show on her South America swing) but don't think he'll ever show up for her the way she's showing up for them. They are actually demonstrating a disturbingly "traditional" relationship where his life and career take precedence and her job is to look pretty and act supportive. Which is frankly disturbing coming from one of the most successful female performing artists of all time, if not THE most successful. I find it weird and uncomfortable to watch her performing "perfect football girlfriend" for him.

Taylor's fan base is eating it up, though, and she knows that. It does feel very performative, but she knows exactly what she's doing. She is choosing to attend his games in the flashiest manner possible (the celebrity entourages, the flashy outfits, the convertible, etc.) because her teenage and young adult fans are eating it up, living vicariously through her play-acting the adoring girlfriend of the star football player. That doesn't mean the whole relationship is fake, and she doesn't have to slink around if she doesn't want to, but I don't think she's following him around like a puppy just to feed his ego or to subordinate herself/her career... this is all part of her being a savvy businesswoman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love it all so much! I think they are a great role model for a supportive partnership. I think it is amazing to watch this unfold.

Majority of celebrity relationships are short lived and half truth-half choreographed PR display, unlike genuine relationships you can use as great role models.

Travis and Jason Kelce come from a legit real family, though. Look at their parents. Look at Mama Kelce. Jason and his wife have a legit real family, with legit real kids.

You can't get much more real than who Travis is and where he comes from and where he is now in KCMO. Taylor looks very happy with Travis's family. She seems to get along with Mahomes' wife, who was his high school sweetheart. These aren't your typical Hollywood or NYC people Taylor has spent time with.

Lots of people come from "a legit real family" and then behave differently than their parents or siblings. Especially if in the interim, they become famous pro football stars with tons of money and a lot of women throwing themselves at him.

Travis demonstrated clearly before he started dating Taylor that he is obsessed with attention and being in the spotlight, will happily exploit his personal life for fame and money (e.g. his dating reality show), and that he definitely has a preference for women with similar tendencies.

To me one of the biggest red flags: even though Taylor was more famous and inarguably more successful than Travis before they started dating (definitely financially more successful), it is Taylor who has folded herself around his life, not the other way around. She's attended nearly every one of his games, dressed herself up in his team gear, gotten friendly with his mom, his friend's wives, and the team. Is Travis doing the same thing. Like Taylor and Brittney Mahomes are suddenly BFFs, but is Travis making this effort with Taylor's supposedly close group of friends and their spouses? Did we see him hugging and palling around with Cara Delavigne, is he boosting Selena's makeup line on his socials? No, of course not. This is about Travis -- his career, his family, his friends, his team.

Maybe after the Super Bowl, this reverses and suddenly Travis will be showing up places wearing Era's tour gear and palling around with her friends. But I doubt it. He did a little of that before (wearing the friendship bracelets and going to that show on her South America swing) but don't think he'll ever show up for her the way she's showing up for them. They are actually demonstrating a disturbingly "traditional" relationship where his life and career take precedence and her job is to look pretty and act supportive. Which is frankly disturbing coming from one of the most successful female performing artists of all time, if not THE most successful. I find it weird and uncomfortable to watch her performing "perfect football girlfriend" for him.

Taylor's fan base is eating it up, though, and she knows that. It does feel very performative, but she knows exactly what she's doing. She is choosing to attend his games in the flashiest manner possible (the celebrity entourages, the flashy outfits, the convertible, etc.) because her teenage and young adult fans are eating it up, living vicariously through her play-acting the adoring girlfriend of the star football player. That doesn't mean the whole relationship is fake, and she doesn't have to slink around if she doesn't want to, but I don't think she's following him around like a puppy just to feed his ego or to subordinate herself/her career... this is all part of her being a savvy businesswoman.

Totally agree. Her continued overexposure (now at NFL games) is part of her ubiquity and making her brand and presence even bigger. Most ppl in America are not overthinking it, they think it's cute and romantic. It feels like her old hit "You Belong With Me" re the jock and she's getting him this time.

I think this is great and a positive for like 95%+ of her fans.

I don't think Travis busting into her "ladies night" NYC restaurant outings with her friends who do much to look good for him or for her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:she doesn't really seem like her age if that makes sense

https://twitter.com/tayvisnation/status/1751779290591453281

It does make sense and I totally agree. She seems young for her age. Maybe it’s her hair and makeup? Her giddy behavior? How attached she seems to female friends? She seems like she’s 22 not 34.

I think she acts younger around Travis and yes the giddy behavior is part of it. She comes off as a very young woman without a lot of life experience who adores/looks up to her super successful boyfriend. It feels cringe to me.

It makes me think of when certain friends of mine who were previously very with it and successful started fawning all over a new boyfriend like he invented fire, when they were as if not more accomplished. It feels retrograde and you wonder if they are acting less intelligent or mature in purpose because the guy likes feeling in charge.

This feels mean. When you fall in love, those first several months you are not yourself, and it really happens at every age. Most people falling in love don’t have these big moments captured by a million cameras - but anyone who’s been in a new relationship feels dopey. It’s just usually more private.

Also, you’re not really ever seeing them in a normal situation. He just found out he was going to the Super Bowl, you’re not going to act your chill self.

I agree it feels mean. Look at the Golden Bachelor contestants - many seem like they bonded and are now good friends after spending a few months together. I think this happens when you are in a completely new environment (for you) - you look to people to latch onto as you navigate the situation.

For Taylor, Brittany is the perfect person to help her navigate through the WAG world.

This take is a perfect example of why her behavior feels immature to me. If you were describing a 24 year old, I'd see how this makes sense. You are describing someone a decade older, who has a billion dollars and was just named Time's Person of the Year. Why are you comparing her to contestants on the Golden Bachelor??? Why does she need someone to "latch onto" and navigate being a football girlfriend? Why does she even have to do "football girlfriend" correctly -- she's Taylor Swift, who cares.

Also, to the prior poster, it is not actually necessary for so many of the Travis and Taylor's "key moments" in their relationship to be public. Like sure, her giving him a hug after yesterday's game -- that was going to happen on the field. But most of the personal interactions between them that have been "caught" by the cameras could have happened in private. They are not required to do a pap walk after going to dinner. Travis is not required to greet her in full view of fans and press when she comes off the stage at her show. She is not required to walk through the stadium with him after games. And so on. Many, many famous people manage to date in ways that don't involve being photographed on dates or in private, intimate moments. These people are insanely wealthy -- they just have those moments behind closed doors.

We see this stuff because they want us to see it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love it all so much! I think they are a great role model for a supportive partnership. I think it is amazing to watch this unfold.

Majority of celebrity relationships are short lived and half truth-half choreographed PR display, unlike genuine relationships you can use as great role models.

Travis and Jason Kelce come from a legit real family, though. Look at their parents. Look at Mama Kelce. Jason and his wife have a legit real family, with legit real kids.

You can't get much more real than who Travis is and where he comes from and where he is now in KCMO. Taylor looks very happy with Travis's family. She seems to get along with Mahomes' wife, who was his high school sweetheart. These aren't your typical Hollywood or NYC people Taylor has spent time with.

Lots of people come from "a legit real family" and then behave differently than their parents or siblings. Especially if in the interim, they become famous pro football stars with tons of money and a lot of women throwing themselves at him.

Travis demonstrated clearly before he started dating Taylor that he is obsessed with attention and being in the spotlight, will happily exploit his personal life for fame and money (e.g. his dating reality show), and that he definitely has a preference for women with similar tendencies.

To me one of the biggest red flags: even though Taylor was more famous and inarguably more successful than Travis before they started dating (definitely financially more successful), it is Taylor who has folded herself around his life, not the other way around. She's attended nearly every one of his games, dressed herself up in his team gear, gotten friendly with his mom, his friend's wives, and the team. Is Travis doing the same thing. Like Taylor and Brittney Mahomes are suddenly BFFs, but is Travis making this effort with Taylor's supposedly close group of friends and their spouses? Did we see him hugging and palling around with Cara Delavigne, is he boosting Selena's makeup line on his socials? No, of course not. This is about Travis -- his career, his family, his friends, his team.

Maybe after the Super Bowl, this reverses and suddenly Travis will be showing up places wearing Era's tour gear and palling around with her friends. But I doubt it. He did a little of that before (wearing the friendship bracelets and going to that show on her South America swing) but don't think he'll ever show up for her the way she's showing up for them. They are actually demonstrating a disturbingly "traditional" relationship where his life and career take precedence and her job is to look pretty and act supportive. Which is frankly disturbing coming from one of the most successful female performing artists of all time, if not THE most successful. I find it weird and uncomfortable to watch her performing "perfect football girlfriend" for him.

Taylor's fan base is eating it up, though, and she knows that. It does feel very performative, but she knows exactly what she's doing. She is choosing to attend his games in the flashiest manner possible (the celebrity entourages, the flashy outfits, the convertible, etc.) because her teenage and young adult fans are eating it up, living vicariously through her play-acting the adoring girlfriend of the star football player. That doesn't mean the whole relationship is fake, and she doesn't have to slink around if she doesn't want to, but I don't think she's following him around like a puppy just to feed his ego or to subordinate herself/her career... this is all part of her being a savvy businesswoman.

Just to be clear, your argument here is that she is following him around like a puppy because she's smart enough to know that's what her fans want to see. Yes? Did I get this right?

G-R-O-S-S. If true, Taylor AND her fans need to grow the heck up. If you are watching this stuff just thrilled that your dream of being a football player's girlfriend is coming to life before your eyes, can I gently suggest you get a better dream?

[Anonymous]

Travis and Jason come from a supportive legit real family. There doesn't seem to be any major conflicts in their family with big and bigger egos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love it all so much! I think they are a great role model for a supportive partnership. I think it is amazing to watch this unfold.

Majority of celebrity relationships are short lived and half truth-half choreographed PR display, unlike genuine relationships you can use as great role models.

Travis and Jason Kelce come from a legit real family, though. Look at their parents. Look at Mama Kelce. Jason and his wife have a legit real family, with legit real kids.

You can't get much more real than who Travis is and where he comes from and where he is now in KCMO. Taylor looks very happy with Travis's family. She seems to get along with Mahomes' wife, who was his high school sweetheart. These aren't your typical Hollywood or NYC people Taylor has spent time with.

Lots of people come from "a legit real family" and then behave differently than their parents or siblings. Especially if in the interim, they become famous pro football stars with tons of money and a lot of women throwing themselves at him.

Travis demonstrated clearly before he started dating Taylor that he is obsessed with attention and being in the spotlight, will happily exploit his personal life for fame and money (e.g. his dating reality show), and that he definitely has a preference for women with similar tendencies.

To me one of the biggest red flags: even though Taylor was more famous and inarguably more successful than Travis before they started dating (definitely financially more successful), it is Taylor who has folded herself around his life, not the other way around. She's attended nearly every one of his games, dressed herself up in his team gear, gotten friendly with his mom, his friend's wives, and the team. Is Travis doing the same thing. Like Taylor and Brittney Mahomes are suddenly BFFs, but is Travis making this effort with Taylor's supposedly close group of friends and their spouses? Did we see him hugging and palling around with Cara Delavigne, is he boosting Selena's makeup line on his socials? No, of course not. This is about Travis -- his career, his family, his friends, his team.

Maybe after the Super Bowl, this reverses and suddenly Travis will be showing up places wearing Era's tour gear and palling around with her friends. But I doubt it. He did a little of that before (wearing the friendship bracelets and going to that show on her South America swing) but don't think he'll ever show up for her the way she's showing up for them. They are actually demonstrating a disturbingly "traditional" relationship where his life and career take precedence and her job is to look pretty and act supportive. Which is frankly disturbing coming from one of the most successful female performing artists of all time, if not THE most successful. I find it weird and uncomfortable to watch her performing "perfect football girlfriend" for him.

Taylor's fan base is eating it up, though, and she knows that. It does feel very performative, but she knows exactly what she's doing. She is choosing to attend his games in the flashiest manner possible (the celebrity entourages, the flashy outfits, the convertible, etc.) because her teenage and young adult fans are eating it up, living vicariously through her play-acting the adoring girlfriend of the star football player. That doesn't mean the whole relationship is fake, and she doesn't have to slink around if she doesn't want to, but I don't think she's following him around like a puppy just to feed his ego or to subordinate herself/her career... this is all part of her being a savvy businesswoman.

Totally agree. Her continued overexposure (now at NFL games) is part of her ubiquity and making her brand and presence even bigger. Most ppl in America are not overthinking it, they think it's cute and romantic. It feels like her old hit "You Belong With Me" re the jock and she's getting him this time.

I think this is great and a positive for like 95%+ of her fans.

I don't think Travis busting into her "ladies night" NYC restaurant outings with her friends who do much to look good for him or for her.

To put it gently: this is psychotic. You are describing a carefully crafted PR relationship designed to appeal to the desire of young women to be the subordinate girlfriend to a big successful jock boyfriend, as enacted by one of the most powerful women in entertainment at the moment. And you are describing it like it's cool and admirable?

This is like arguing those passive aggressive headlines on women's magazines ("How to lose weight to find yourself!") are just a cool way for the women who run those magazines to exploit their reader's insecurities for advertising dollars. Yay?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love it all so much! I think they are a great role model for a supportive partnership. I think it is amazing to watch this unfold.

Majority of celebrity relationships are short lived and half truth-half choreographed PR display, unlike genuine relationships you can use as great role models.

Travis and Jason Kelce come from a legit real family, though. Look at their parents. Look at Mama Kelce. Jason and his wife have a legit real family, with legit real kids.

You can't get much more real than who Travis is and where he comes from and where he is now in KCMO. Taylor looks very happy with Travis's family. She seems to get along with Mahomes' wife, who was his high school sweetheart. These aren't your typical Hollywood or NYC people Taylor has spent time with.

Lots of people come from "a legit real family" and then behave differently than their parents or siblings. Especially if in the interim, they become famous pro football stars with tons of money and a lot of women throwing themselves at him.

Travis demonstrated clearly before he started dating Taylor that he is obsessed with attention and being in the spotlight, will happily exploit his personal life for fame and money (e.g. his dating reality show), and that he definitely has a preference for women with similar tendencies.

To me one of the biggest red flags: even though Taylor was more famous and inarguably more successful than Travis before they started dating (definitely financially more successful), it is Taylor who has folded herself around his life, not the other way around. She's attended nearly every one of his games, dressed herself up in his team gear, gotten friendly with his mom, his friend's wives, and the team. Is Travis doing the same thing. Like Taylor and Brittney Mahomes are suddenly BFFs, but is Travis making this effort with Taylor's supposedly close group of friends and their spouses? Did we see him hugging and palling around with Cara Delavigne, is he boosting Selena's makeup line on his socials? No, of course not. This is about Travis -- his career, his family, his friends, his team.

Maybe after the Super Bowl, this reverses and suddenly Travis will be showing up places wearing Era's tour gear and palling around with her friends. But I doubt it. He did a little of that before (wearing the friendship bracelets and going to that show on her South America swing) but don't think he'll ever show up for her the way she's showing up for them. They are actually demonstrating a disturbingly "traditional" relationship where his life and career take precedence and her job is to look pretty and act supportive. Which is frankly disturbing coming from one of the most successful female performing artists of all time, if not THE most successful. I find it weird and uncomfortable to watch her performing "perfect football girlfriend" for him.

Taylor's fan base is eating it up, though, and she knows that. It does feel very performative, but she knows exactly what she's doing. She is choosing to attend his games in the flashiest manner possible (the celebrity entourages, the flashy outfits, the convertible, etc.) because her teenage and young adult fans are eating it up, living vicariously through her play-acting the adoring girlfriend of the star football player. That doesn't mean the whole relationship is fake, and she doesn't have to slink around if she doesn't want to, but I don't think she's following him around like a puppy just to feed his ego or to subordinate herself/her career... this is all part of her being a savvy businesswoman.

Totally agree. Her continued overexposure (now at NFL games) is part of her ubiquity and making her brand and presence even bigger. Most ppl in America are not overthinking it, they think it's cute and romantic. It feels like her old hit "You Belong With Me" re the jock and she's getting him this time.

I think this is great and a positive for like 95%+ of her fans.

I don't think Travis busting into her "ladies night" NYC restaurant outings with her friends who do much to look good for him or for her.

My parents are old boomers who casually watch NFL playoff games and they find her performance at games and the camera always going to her so obnoxious and annoying. They ridiculed her for acting like a teenager when she's age 34. They are not tuned into pop culture at all but they believe the way it's forced on the audience makes it seem like a fake relationship and that the NFL is in on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Travis and Jason come from a supportive legit real family. There doesn't seem to be any major conflicts in their family with big and bigger egos.

Your continued use of "legit real family" is starting to gross me out. All families are "real" and "legit." Being a white family from the midwest whose adult sons play pro football does not make you more real and legit, but it really feels like that's what you're trying to say.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Travis and Jason come from a supportive legit real family. There doesn't seem to be any major conflicts in their family with big and bigger egos.

Your continued use of "legit real family" is starting to gross me out. All families are "real" and "legit." Being a white family from the midwest whose adult sons play pro football does not make you more real and legit, but it really feels like that's what you're trying to say.

You just injected race into the discussion and put words in people’s mouths that they didn’t put there.

Watch the documentary on Jason Kelce and you’ll see that both his parents are incredibly loving and sacrificed financially for their kids. There is a strong and loving family presence there that helped shape their growth. They seem well adjusted thanks to that type of family environment.

I’m sorry you think it’s “racist” to talk about supporting, loving families. Most scientists, or even sociologists, would agree that a stable, loving environment with two parents is a great place to grow up, but you go ahead and write flippant, irreverent and spiteful, snarky, race-baiting internet comments and we’ll all just go on with our lives. Ugh, and I’m liberal. Sorry we’re all not woke enough to comment here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love it all so much! I think they are a great role model for a supportive partnership. I think it is amazing to watch this unfold.

Majority of celebrity relationships are short lived and half truth-half choreographed PR display, unlike genuine relationships you can use as great role models.

Travis and Jason Kelce come from a legit real family, though. Look at their parents. Look at Mama Kelce. Jason and his wife have a legit real family, with legit real kids.

You can't get much more real than who Travis is and where he comes from and where he is now in KCMO. Taylor looks very happy with Travis's family. She seems to get along with Mahomes' wife, who was his high school sweetheart. These aren't your typical Hollywood or NYC people Taylor has spent time with.

Lots of people come from "a legit real family" and then behave differently than their parents or siblings. Especially if in the interim, they become famous pro football stars with tons of money and a lot of women throwing themselves at him.

Travis demonstrated clearly before he started dating Taylor that he is obsessed with attention and being in the spotlight, will happily exploit his personal life for fame and money (e.g. his dating reality show), and that he definitely has a preference for women with similar tendencies.

To me one of the biggest red flags: even though Taylor was more famous and inarguably more successful than Travis before they started dating (definitely financially more successful), it is Taylor who has folded herself around his life, not the other way around. She's attended nearly every one of his games, dressed herself up in his team gear, gotten friendly with his mom, his friend's wives, and the team. Is Travis doing the same thing. Like Taylor and Brittney Mahomes are suddenly BFFs, but is Travis making this effort with Taylor's supposedly close group of friends and their spouses? Did we see him hugging and palling around with Cara Delavigne, is he boosting Selena's makeup line on his socials? No, of course not. This is about Travis -- his career, his family, his friends, his team.

Maybe after the Super Bowl, this reverses and suddenly Travis will be showing up places wearing Era's tour gear and palling around with her friends. But I doubt it. He did a little of that before (wearing the friendship bracelets and going to that show on her South America swing) but don't think he'll ever show up for her the way she's showing up for them. They are actually demonstrating a disturbingly "traditional" relationship where his life and career take precedence and her job is to look pretty and act supportive. Which is frankly disturbing coming from one of the most successful female performing artists of all time, if not THE most successful. I find it weird and uncomfortable to watch her performing "perfect football girlfriend" for him.

Taylor's fan base is eating it up, though, and she knows that. It does feel very performative, but she knows exactly what she's doing. She is choosing to attend his games in the flashiest manner possible (the celebrity entourages, the flashy outfits, the convertible, etc.) because her teenage and young adult fans are eating it up, living vicariously through her play-acting the adoring girlfriend of the star football player. That doesn't mean the whole relationship is fake, and she doesn't have to slink around if she doesn't want to, but I don't think she's following him around like a puppy just to feed his ego or to subordinate herself/her career... this is all part of her being a savvy businesswoman.

Just to be clear, your argument here is that she is following him around like a puppy because she's smart enough to know that's what her fans want to see. Yes? Did I get this right?

G-R-O-S-S. If true, Taylor AND her fans need to grow the heck up. If you are watching this stuff just thrilled that your dream of being a football player's girlfriend is coming to life before your eyes, can I gently suggest you get a better dream?

Exactly. She's giving her fans what they want, and getting richer every day for it. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Travis and Jason come from a supportive legit real family. There doesn't seem to be any major conflicts in their family with big and bigger egos.

Your continued use of "legit real family" is starting to gross me out. All families are "real" and "legit." Being a white family from the midwest whose adult sons play pro football does not make you more real and legit, but it really feels like that's what you're trying to say.

You just injected race into the discussion and put words in people’s mouths that they didn’t put there.

Watch the documentary on Jason Kelce and you’ll see that both his parents are incredibly loving and sacrificed financially for their kids. There is a strong and loving family presence there that helped shape their growth. They seem well adjusted thanks to that type of family environment.

I’m sorry you think it’s “racist” to talk about supporting, loving families. Most scientists, or even sociologists, would agree that a stable, loving environment with two parents is a great place to grow up, but you go ahead and write flippant, irreverent and spiteful, snarky, race-baiting internet comments and we’ll all just go on with our lives. Ugh, and I’m liberal. Sorry we’re all not woke enough to comment here.

It’s a shame they didn’t come from a poverty stricken, single parent, inner city home, because, by all legit metrics, would have done even better than they did. S/

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Anonymous wrote:Travis and Jason come from a supportive legit real family. There doesn't seem to be any major conflicts in their family with big and bigger egos.

Well they didn't raise their sons to have manners since they both enjoy opening their mouths as wide as they can possibly to to shout like cave men when they win. So gross. In legit good families they'd say, "You'll catch flies that way."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Travis and Jason come from a supportive legit real family. There doesn't seem to be any major conflicts in their family with big and bigger egos.

Your continued use of "legit real family" is starting to gross me out. All families are "real" and "legit." Being a white family from the midwest whose adult sons play pro football does not make you more real and legit, but it really feels like that's what you're trying to say.

You just injected race into the discussion and put words in people’s mouths that they didn’t put there.

Watch the documentary on Jason Kelce and you’ll see that both his parents are incredibly loving and sacrificed financially for their kids. There is a strong and loving family presence there that helped shape their growth. They seem well adjusted thanks to that type of family environment.

I’m sorry you think it’s “racist” to talk about supporting, loving families. Most scientists, or even sociologists, would agree that a stable, loving environment with two parents is a great place to grow up, but you go ahead and write flippant, irreverent and spiteful, snarky, race-baiting internet comments and we’ll all just go on with our lives. Ugh, and I’m liberal. Sorry we’re all not woke enough to comment here.

No, I'm responding to your repeated use of the phrase "legit real family" to describe the Kelces. It's a weird phrasing, especially the word "legit." Why not just say "they seem like a loving, supportive family." That would have been normal. You chose to go with "legit real family." Why? It's weird and absolutely begs the question of what an illegitimate, fake family looks like.

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Anonymous wrote:Travis and Jason come from a supportive legit real family. There doesn't seem to be any major conflicts in their family with big and bigger egos.

Your continued use of "legit real family" is starting to gross me out. All families are "real" and "legit." Being a white family from the midwest whose adult sons play pro football does not make you more real and legit, but it really feels like that's what you're trying to say.

You just injected race into the discussion and put words in people’s mouths that they didn’t put there.

Watch the documentary on Jason Kelce and you’ll see that both his parents are incredibly loving and sacrificed financially for their kids. There is a strong and loving family presence there that helped shape their growth. They seem well adjusted thanks to that type of family environment.

I’m sorry you think it’s “racist” to talk about supporting, loving families. Most scientists, or even sociologists, would agree that a stable, loving environment with two parents is a great place to grow up, but you go ahead and write flippant, irreverent and spiteful, snarky, race-baiting internet comments and we’ll all just go on with our lives. Ugh, and I’m liberal. Sorry we’re all not woke enough to comment here.

It’s a shame they didn’t come from a poverty stricken, single parent, inner city home, because, by all legit metrics, would have done even better than they did. S/

Plenty of successful athletes did.