APS Closing Nottingham

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Anonymous wrote:How disappointing for the people living nearby who thought they were able to walk to school.

Yeah I don’t understand the glee in which people are so enthusiastic about closing a neighborhood school. This is happening because of APS mismanagement. Disappointing is the right word here.

How sad can they be when they’re still in walking distance of another school?

Not everyone is, and many of those who are have to cross major roads to walk to a different school. Including the road where three people died.

Crossing guards. Problem solved.

You seriously can’t brainstorm solutions to problems without saying “no” like a two year old?

Your personal life must be terrible. (Maybe that’s why you have time to comment on here every five minutes. Because no one wants to talk to you IRL. 😂)

And where are we finding the money to hire these crossing guards, when we can’t get enough to hire bus drivers or extended day?

Just remember that the same people in charge of solving these problems are hoping to make it a policy that new Syphax staff get 45 paid days off and have just asked for over six figures for new real estate when the majority of their employees are still working from home. I know where their priorities are and it’s not the safety of children.

Concerned families can volunteer. Again, problem solved.

so the parents have to do the school divisions' job - and if they don't or can't, then their kids aren't safe? umm, no that's not how this works

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Anonymous wrote:How disappointing for the people living nearby who thought they were able to walk to school.

Yeah I don’t understand the glee in which people are so enthusiastic about closing a neighborhood school. This is happening because of APS mismanagement. Disappointing is the right word here.

How sad can they be when they’re still in walking distance of another school?

Not everyone is, and many of those who are have to cross major roads to walk to a different school. Including the road where three people died.

Crossing guards. Problem solved.

You seriously can’t brainstorm solutions to problems without saying “no” like a two year old?

Your personal life must be terrible. (Maybe that’s why you have time to comment on here every five minutes. Because no one wants to talk to you IRL. 😂)

And where are we finding the money to hire these crossing guards, when we can’t get enough to hire bus drivers or extended day?

Just remember that the same people in charge of solving these problems are hoping to make it a policy that new Syphax staff get 45 paid days off and have just asked for over six figures for new real estate when the majority of their employees are still working from home. I know where their priorities are and it’s not the safety of children.

Several years ago, Nottingham lost a crossing guard and APS refused to fund a new one. You think they're going to do anything about that now?

The Syphax plan is a disaster - they are planning on leasing more space even though they are providing some of their current space to outside organizations for free that they originally didn't need. So now they are going to pay additional money for additional space so they can continue free leases to these organizations? What kind of fiscal management is this? Especially when so much of the staff is still partly remote?

Hey, I have an idea! APS can use Syphax for the swing space!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:School crossing guards are not APS employees. They are part of the police department, not the schools. Tell the police and the county board you want more.

https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/arlington?keywords=Crossing%20Guard

sure you just ask and get it, that's how it works.

how naive are you?

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this doesn’t happen? Is there a theoretical plan B being circulated? I can’t bring myself to sift through 144 pages - but I assume the Nottingham supporters have suggested alternatives to the school board?

There is no plan B. Staff were squarely asked and this is their only plan. That tells you right off the bat the outcome was preordained.

Right. It’s a done deal. Time to move on.

No way. They were gung-ho for neighborhood at heights, and community discontent scuttled that terrible idea.

There is no need for closing NES. Simply split up the school under renovation for a year and bus THEM to the excess capacity schools. Then when we are done, we have updated schools ready for coming missing middle elem school boom.

Put yourself in the renovation school's position. You would gladly agree to scattering your students to whichever multiple schools happen to be under-enrolled for one or two full school years rather than split up one neighborhood school into TWO other known high-performing and highly desired schools nearby. Do you even hear yourself?!

Do you have any idea how that disrupts MULTIPLE schools, the transportation logistics, and the staffing implications? If this were your school community, you'd rather scatter to the winds, not have YOUR school community's events, break-up your teaching and admin teams, etc. for up to two years and then re-convene and re-create a cohesive community again?

You and your like-minded entitled cohorts never cease to amaze me. Just when it seems someone can't be more self-centered, you prove your mastery of narrow-focus, short-mindedness, and lack of understanding of how your world impacts anyone or anything outside your bubble. You are truly amazing. You sincerely have my upmost admiration.

You are kidding yourself if you think this process is going to stop at 3 schools. The whole NW corner is going to get rezoned.

Your ability to just mindlessly accept the BS you are fed at face value amazes me. People like you disgust me. I mean, why do we even allow you to vote. Just kidding on that last part - actually, no, not really.

I'm not talking about the general re-zoning. I'm talking about NES kids getting permanently rezoned in large clumps of children probably mostly to two nearby schools - versus what you're suggesting is more logical and simpler....scattering kids from a school being renovated for one or two years to whatever schools have room wherever they are and then bringing them (and their teachers and admin) back together after the renovation. Where does the principal go during that time? The AP? You think all the teachers are going to have positions in various other fully staffed schools? And it's no problem to send parts of each grade to different schools? And they all have to transition back when their school is done? And what if the regular neighborhood enrollment at a school some of them were sent to rises for the second year of the renovation so that it's overcrowded - do they get moved to some other under-enrolled school for that year...if there is one?

All of that disruption rather than simply redistricting one school to other schools within a general rezoning, just one transition? Again, if you were on the other end of the equation, no way in hell you would even suggest such a "simple" solution.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this doesn’t happen? Is there a theoretical plan B being circulated? I can’t bring myself to sift through 144 pages - but I assume the Nottingham supporters have suggested alternatives to the school board?

There is no plan B. Staff were squarely asked and this is their only plan. That tells you right off the bat the outcome was preordained.

Right. It’s a done deal. Time to move on.

No way. They were gung-ho for neighborhood at heights, and community discontent scuttled that terrible idea.

There is no need for closing NES. Simply split up the school under renovation for a year and bus THEM to the excess capacity schools. Then when we are done, we have updated schools ready for coming missing middle elem school boom.

Put yourself in the renovation school's position. You would gladly agree to scattering your students to whichever multiple schools happen to be under-enrolled for one or two full school years rather than split up one neighborhood school into TWO other known high-performing and highly desired schools nearby. Do you even hear yourself?!

Do you have any idea how that disrupts MULTIPLE schools, the transportation logistics, and the staffing implications? If this were your school community, you'd rather scatter to the winds, not have YOUR school community's events, break-up your teaching and admin teams, etc. for up to two years and then re-convene and re-create a cohesive community again?

You and your like-minded entitled cohorts never cease to amaze me. Just when it seems someone can't be more self-centered, you prove your mastery of narrow-focus, short-mindedness, and lack of understanding of how your world impacts anyone or anything outside your bubble. You are truly amazing. You sincerely have my upmost admiration.

You are kidding yourself if you think this process is going to stop at 3 schools. The whole NW corner is going to get rezoned.

Your ability to just mindlessly accept the BS you are fed at face value amazes me. People like you disgust me. I mean, why do we even allow you to vote. Just kidding on that last part - actually, no, not really.

I'm not talking about the general re-zoning. I'm talking about NES kids getting permanently rezoned in large clumps of children probably mostly to two nearby schools - versus what you're suggesting is more logical and simpler....scattering kids from a school being renovated for one or two years to whatever schools have room wherever they are and then bringing them (and their teachers and admin) back together after the renovation. Where does the principal go during that time? The AP? You think all the teachers are going to have positions in various other fully staffed schools? And it's no problem to send parts of each grade to different schools? And they all have to transition back when their school is done? And what if the regular neighborhood enrollment at a school some of them were sent to rises for the second year of the renovation so that it's overcrowded - do they get moved to some other under-enrolled school for that year...if there is one?

All of that disruption rather than simply redistricting one school to other schools within a general rezoning, just one transition? Again, if you were on the other end of the equation, no way in hell you would even suggest such a "simple" solution.

A “general rezoning” for half the county. That doesn’t seem like a “simple” solution either?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not surprised to see awful Nottingham people showing up true to form in here. You guys are the best! And by best I mean truly the worst. Really just awful. When faced with difficult circumstances, you always go low. Never change, Nottingham. Or change! Growth is good! But I don't expect it.

I mean SA SAHM mom just called the Notties F-in idiots but sure blame the Notties.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this doesn’t happen? Is there a theoretical plan B being circulated? I can’t bring myself to sift through 144 pages - but I assume the Nottingham supporters have suggested alternatives to the school board?

There is no plan B. Staff were squarely asked and this is their only plan. That tells you right off the bat the outcome was preordained.

Right. It’s a done deal. Time to move on.

No way. They were gung-ho for neighborhood at heights, and community discontent scuttled that terrible idea.

There is no need for closing NES. Simply split up the school under renovation for a year and bus THEM to the excess capacity schools. Then when we are done, we have updated schools ready for coming missing middle elem school boom.

Put yourself in the renovation school's position. You would gladly agree to scattering your students to whichever multiple schools happen to be under-enrolled for one or two full school years rather than split up one neighborhood school into TWO other known high-performing and highly desired schools nearby. Do you even hear yourself?!

Do you have any idea how that disrupts MULTIPLE schools, the transportation logistics, and the staffing implications? If this were your school community, you'd rather scatter to the winds, not have YOUR school community's events, break-up your teaching and admin teams, etc. for up to two years and then re-convene and re-create a cohesive community again?

You and your like-minded entitled cohorts never cease to amaze me. Just when it seems someone can't be more self-centered, you prove your mastery of narrow-focus, short-mindedness, and lack of understanding of how your world impacts anyone or anything outside your bubble. You are truly amazing. You sincerely have my upmost admiration.

Hi APS central office staff member! How’s Syphax these days?

I wouldn't know. I'm a SA SAHM. And you are a f---- obtuse idiot.

It’s a SA SAHM, folks! You all must be doing pretty well down there if you can afford to make the choice not to work. Well enough I think you can shake that social Justice warrior/inferiority complex off a bit, no?

I understand that it's unfathomable to you; but some people make different lifestyle choices, make sacrifices, do without some things. Also, there are a lot of households that manage to get by on one salary and not spend a second salary on years of daycare and childcare, expensive or second cars, or over-spending beyond their means on housing.

I understand that it's even more unfathomable to you that there are actually highly educated and gainfully employed people in south Arlington ( a lot of them) and that not all of SA is uneducated and impoverished.

And we have no inferiority complex. DCUM never fails to confirm for me that raising our family in south Arlington instead of north was the right choice. So, thank you for that - not that I was doubting it.

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent with children in one of the S. Arlington schools that hasn't been renovated since the 1990's I welcome this decision. It completely makes sense for APS to have a swing space, much like the Wilson school used to be (which was used back when Nottingham was last renovated by the way). Will it be annoying for my kids to be across the county for a few years if it happens while they are still at the school? Yes. But most families at our high poverty, title 1 school don't have tons of after school activities that parents are rushing to, and parents or caregivers walk or drive to pick up their children now. Honestly, a long bus ride that's provided for free lengthens the free childcare provided by the school system, an option that isn't available to us now. My children are in extended day and the majority are picked up within an hour of when school is out. The bus ride may cover a lot of that time. I'm sure it will be challenging for some families who need extended day who don't have transportation to get to temporary school, so that's something that will need to be worked on/talked about. But it's definitely a minority of kids in our school who do extended day. I'd rather be solution-oriented than bury my head in the sand because of one concern.

I also think it's incredibly tone-deaf to go on and on about how overcrowded all of the nearby highly-rated schools to Nottingham will be. S. Arlington schools are already way more over-crowded with kids with many more academic, social, linguistic and economic needs. And are projected to be more so. And when the NW becomes more crowded again NES can transition back to a neighborhood school. Yes maybe it will take a few years after the need starts. Is that comparable to schools with huge renovation needs that are already overcrowded waiting 30+ years for a renovation? No.

You have an underpopulated school in your own backyard that no one wants to send their kids to because it’s full of FARMS kids. It’s one thing to choose overcrowding, another to be needlessly forced into it.

It’s not the FARMs kids. It’s the gun violence in the area. Very different than your complaints.

Yes. I hear gunshots every day down here. Our school has been on lockdown countless times due to the gun violence. Oh, wait - that one lockdown in elementary school was actually due to a big buck being on the property. I think it was later discovered that deer didn't even have a gun. Besides, it's the "FARMS kids" that have the guns, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this doesn’t happen? Is there a theoretical plan B being circulated? I can’t bring myself to sift through 144 pages - but I assume the Nottingham supporters have suggested alternatives to the school board?

There is no plan B. Staff were squarely asked and this is their only plan. That tells you right off the bat the outcome was preordained.

Right. It’s a done deal. Time to move on.

No way. They were gung-ho for neighborhood at heights, and community discontent scuttled that terrible idea.

There is no need for closing NES. Simply split up the school under renovation for a year and bus THEM to the excess capacity schools. Then when we are done, we have updated schools ready for coming missing middle elem school boom.

Put yourself in the renovation school's position. You would gladly agree to scattering your students to whichever multiple schools happen to be under-enrolled for one or two full school years rather than split up one neighborhood school into TWO other known high-performing and highly desired schools nearby. Do you even hear yourself?!

Do you have any idea how that disrupts MULTIPLE schools, the transportation logistics, and the staffing implications? If this were your school community, you'd rather scatter to the winds, not have YOUR school community's events, break-up your teaching and admin teams, etc. for up to two years and then re-convene and re-create a cohesive community again?

You and your like-minded entitled cohorts never cease to amaze me. Just when it seems someone can't be more self-centered, you prove your mastery of narrow-focus, short-mindedness, and lack of understanding of how your world impacts anyone or anything outside your bubble. You are truly amazing. You sincerely have my upmost admiration.

Hi APS central office staff member! How’s Syphax these days?

I wouldn't know. I'm a SA SAHM. And you are a f---- obtuse idiot.

It’s a SA SAHM, folks! You all must be doing pretty well down there if you can afford to make the choice not to work. Well enough I think you can shake that social Justice warrior/inferiority complex off a bit, no?

Or MAYBE some of us are forced to take time off from our careers to care for our young children. You know, when my salary doesn’t cover the cost of daycare.

You’re a moron.

YOUR salary? You’re a single SAHM to boot? Wow. I want whatever deal you have.

Your reading comprehension and analytical ability are really poor.
Here, let me explain it another way for you on behalf of PP: her salary was lower than the cost of daycare, so she couldn't afford daycare. Therefore, she quit working and became a SAHM. So, she HAD a salary and gave it up and stayed home to take care of her kid(s). Do you understand that there's no conflict in her comment, yet?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this doesn’t happen? Is there a theoretical plan B being circulated? I can’t bring myself to sift through 144 pages - but I assume the Nottingham supporters have suggested alternatives to the school board?

There is no plan B. Staff were squarely asked and this is their only plan. That tells you right off the bat the outcome was preordained.

Right. It’s a done deal. Time to move on.

No way. They were gung-ho for neighborhood at heights, and community discontent scuttled that terrible idea.

There is no need for closing NES. Simply split up the school under renovation for a year and bus THEM to the excess capacity schools. Then when we are done, we have updated schools ready for coming missing middle elem school boom.

Put yourself in the renovation school's position. You would gladly agree to scattering your students to whichever multiple schools happen to be under-enrolled for one or two full school years rather than split up one neighborhood school into TWO other known high-performing and highly desired schools nearby. Do you even hear yourself?!

Do you have any idea how that disrupts MULTIPLE schools, the transportation logistics, and the staffing implications? If this were your school community, you'd rather scatter to the winds, not have YOUR school community's events, break-up your teaching and admin teams, etc. for up to two years and then re-convene and re-create a cohesive community again?

You and your like-minded entitled cohorts never cease to amaze me. Just when it seems someone can't be more self-centered, you prove your mastery of narrow-focus, short-mindedness, and lack of understanding of how your world impacts anyone or anything outside your bubble. You are truly amazing. You sincerely have my upmost admiration.

Hi APS central office staff member! How’s Syphax these days?

I wouldn't know. I'm a SA SAHM. And you are a f---- obtuse idiot.

It’s a SA SAHM, folks! You all must be doing pretty well down there if you can afford to make the choice not to work. Well enough I think you can shake that social Justice warrior/inferiority complex off a bit, no?

Or MAYBE some of us are forced to take time off from our careers to care for our young children. You know, when my salary doesn’t cover the cost of daycare.

You’re a moron.

YOUR salary? You’re a single SAHM to boot? Wow. I want whatever deal you have.

I mean, you are welcome to move to the south and stuff four people into a two bedroom condo if you’d like. 😂

You have no idea how out of touch you are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How disappointing for the people living nearby who thought they were able to walk to school.

Yeah I don’t understand the glee in which people are so enthusiastic about closing a neighborhood school. This is happening because of APS mismanagement. Disappointing is the right word here.

How sad can they be when they’re still in walking distance of another school?

Not everyone is, and many of those who are have to cross major roads to walk to a different school. Including the road where three people died.

Crossing guards. Problem solved.

You seriously can’t brainstorm solutions to problems without saying “no” like a two year old?

Your personal life must be terrible. (Maybe that’s why you have time to comment on here every five minutes. Because no one wants to talk to you IRL. 😂)

Gee like no one thought of that, Sherlock. There already are x'ing guards there but thanks for playing.

Hold up — three people were killed with a crossing guard present?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How disappointing for the people living nearby who thought they were able to walk to school.

Yeah I don’t understand the glee in which people are so enthusiastic about closing a neighborhood school. This is happening because of APS mismanagement. Disappointing is the right word here.

How sad can they be when they’re still in walking distance of another school?

Not everyone is, and many of those who are have to cross major roads to walk to a different school. Including the road where three people died.

Crossing guards. Problem solved.

You seriously can’t brainstorm solutions to problems without saying “no” like a two year old?

Your personal life must be terrible. (Maybe that’s why you have time to comment on here every five minutes. Because no one wants to talk to you IRL. 😂)

And where are we finding the money to hire these crossing guards, when we can’t get enough to hire bus drivers or extended day?

Just remember that the same people in charge of solving these problems are hoping to make it a policy that new Syphax staff get 45 paid days off and have just asked for over six figures for new real estate when the majority of their employees are still working from home. I know where their priorities are and it’s not the safety of children.

Concerned families can volunteer. Again, problem solved.

so the parents have to do the school divisions' job - and if they don't or can't, then their kids aren't safe? umm, no that's not how this works

Um, that’s exactly how this works, sweetie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent with children in one of the S. Arlington schools that hasn't been renovated since the 1990's I welcome this decision. It completely makes sense for APS to have a swing space, much like the Wilson school used to be (which was used back when Nottingham was last renovated by the way). Will it be annoying for my kids to be across the county for a few years if it happens while they are still at the school? Yes. But most families at our high poverty, title 1 school don't have tons of after school activities that parents are rushing to, and parents or caregivers walk or drive to pick up their children now. Honestly, a long bus ride that's provided for free lengthens the free childcare provided by the school system, an option that isn't available to us now. My children are in extended day and the majority are picked up within an hour of when school is out. The bus ride may cover a lot of that time. I'm sure it will be challenging for some families who need extended day who don't have transportation to get to temporary school, so that's something that will need to be worked on/talked about. But it's definitely a minority of kids in our school who do extended day. I'd rather be solution-oriented than bury my head in the sand because of one concern.

I also think it's incredibly tone-deaf to go on and on about how overcrowded all of the nearby highly-rated schools to Nottingham will be. S. Arlington schools are already way more over-crowded with kids with many more academic, social, linguistic and economic needs. And are projected to be more so. And when the NW becomes more crowded again NES can transition back to a neighborhood school. Yes maybe it will take a few years after the need starts. Is that comparable to schools with huge renovation needs that are already overcrowded waiting 30+ years for a renovation? No.

THANK YOU.

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Anonymous wrote:How disappointing for the people living nearby who thought they were able to walk to school.

Yeah I don’t understand the glee in which people are so enthusiastic about closing a neighborhood school. This is happening because of APS mismanagement. Disappointing is the right word here.

How sad can they be when they’re still in walking distance of another school?

Not everyone is, and many of those who are have to cross major roads to walk to a different school. Including the road where three people died.

Crossing guards. Problem solved.

You seriously can’t brainstorm solutions to problems without saying “no” like a two year old?

Your personal life must be terrible. (Maybe that’s why you have time to comment on here every five minutes. Because no one wants to talk to you IRL. 😂)

And where are we finding the money to hire these crossing guards, when we can’t get enough to hire bus drivers or extended day?

Just remember that the same people in charge of solving these problems are hoping to make it a policy that new Syphax staff get 45 paid days off and have just asked for over six figures for new real estate when the majority of their employees are still working from home. I know where their priorities are and it’s not the safety of children.

Concerned families can volunteer. Again, problem solved.

so the parents have to do the school divisions' job - and if they don't or can't, then their kids aren't safe? umm, no that's not how this works

Um, that’s exactly how this works, sweetie.

Are you kidding me? I get that in practice that's how it works sometimes, but that's not how it should work. Kids shouldn't have to depend on the goodwill of other parents to get to school safely. In a functional district that doesn't happen.

[Anonymous]

Crossing guards are not taken away by APS. They are not APS employees. They are part of the police department. If you want a crossing guard, lobby the correct entity.