APS Closing Nottingham

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How disappointing for the people living nearby who thought they were able to walk to school.

Yeah I don’t understand the glee in which people are so enthusiastic about closing a neighborhood school. This is happening because of APS mismanagement. Disappointing is the right word here.

How sad can they be when they’re still in walking distance of another school?

Not everyone is, and many of those who are have to cross major roads to walk to a different school. Including the road where three people died.

Crossing guards. Problem solved.

You seriously can’t brainstorm solutions to problems without saying “no” like a two year old?

Your personal life must be terrible. (Maybe that’s why you have time to comment on here every five minutes. Because no one wants to talk to you IRL. 😂)

And where are we finding the money to hire these crossing guards, when we can’t get enough to hire bus drivers or extended day?

Just remember that the same people in charge of solving these problems are hoping to make it a policy that new Syphax staff get 45 paid days off and have just asked for over six figures for new real estate when the majority of their employees are still working from home. I know where their priorities are and it’s not the safety of children.

Several years ago, Nottingham lost a crossing guard and APS refused to fund a new one. You think they're going to do anything about that now?

The Syphax plan is a disaster - they are planning on leasing more space even though they are providing some of their current space to outside organizations for free that they originally didn't need. So now they are going to pay additional money for additional space so they can continue free leases to these organizations? What kind of fiscal management is this? Especially when so much of the staff is still partly remote?

[Anonymous]

School crossing guards are not APS employees. They are part of the police department, not the schools. Tell the police and the county board you want more.

https://www.governmentjobs.com/careers/arlington?keywords=Crossing%20Guard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How disappointing for the people living nearby who thought they were able to walk to school.

Yeah I don’t understand the glee in which people are so enthusiastic about closing a neighborhood school. This is happening because of APS mismanagement. Disappointing is the right word here.

How sad can they be when they’re still in walking distance of another school?

How about he sad about the millions of wasted taxpayer money? They built cardinal and discovery and now are closing a perfectly good school walking distance to both.

So....they should close the even more "perfectly good" new school instead?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How disappointing for the people living nearby who thought they were able to walk to school.

Yeah I don’t understand the glee in which people are so enthusiastic about closing a neighborhood school. This is happening because of APS mismanagement. Disappointing is the right word here.

How sad can they be when they’re still in walking distance of another school?

Not everyone is, and many of those who are have to cross major roads to walk to a different school. Including the road where three people died.

Crossing guards. Problem solved.

You seriously can’t brainstorm solutions to problems without saying “no” like a two year old?

Your personal life must be terrible. (Maybe that’s why you have time to comment on here every five minutes. Because no one wants to talk to you IRL. 😂)

And where are we finding the money to hire these crossing guards, when we can’t get enough to hire bus drivers or extended day?

Just remember that the same people in charge of solving these problems are hoping to make it a policy that new Syphax staff get 45 paid days off and have just asked for over six figures for new real estate when the majority of their employees are still working from home. I know where their priorities are and it’s not the safety of children.

Several years ago, Nottingham lost a crossing guard and APS refused to fund a new one. You think they're going to do anything about that now?

The Syphax plan is a disaster - they are planning on leasing more space even though they are providing some of their current space to outside organizations for free that they originally didn't need. So now they are going to pay additional money for additional space so they can continue free leases to these organizations? What kind of fiscal management is this? Especially when so much of the staff is still partly remote?

Crossing guards are hired by the County. They fall under ACPD.
The overriding problem is FINDING crossing guards, not willingness to fund them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How disappointing for the people living nearby who thought they were able to walk to school.

Yeah I don’t understand the glee in which people are so enthusiastic about closing a neighborhood school. This is happening because of APS mismanagement. Disappointing is the right word here.

How sad can they be when they’re still in walking distance of another school?

Not everyone is, and many of those who are have to cross major roads to walk to a different school. Including the road where three people died.

Crossing guards. Problem solved.

You seriously can’t brainstorm solutions to problems without saying “no” like a two year old?

Your personal life must be terrible. (Maybe that’s why you have time to comment on here every five minutes. Because no one wants to talk to you IRL. 😂)

And where are we finding the money to hire these crossing guards, when we can’t get enough to hire bus drivers or extended day?

Just remember that the same people in charge of solving these problems are hoping to make it a policy that new Syphax staff get 45 paid days off and have just asked for over six figures for new real estate when the majority of their employees are still working from home. I know where their priorities are and it’s not the safety of children.

Several years ago, Nottingham lost a crossing guard and APS refused to fund a new one. You think they're going to do anything about that now?

The Syphax plan is a disaster - they are planning on leasing more space even though they are providing some of their current space to outside organizations for free that they originally didn't need. So now they are going to pay additional money for additional space so they can continue free leases to these organizations? What kind of fiscal management is this? Especially when so much of the staff is still partly remote?

Crossing guards are hired by the County. They fall under ACPD.
The overriding problem is FINDING crossing guards, not willingness to fund them.

This. People just make up shit left and right. It's astonishing to me. APS has zero to do with your crossing guard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a parent with children in one of the S. Arlington schools that hasn't been renovated since the 1990's I welcome this decision. It completely makes sense for APS to have a swing space, much like the Wilson school used to be (which was used back when Nottingham was last renovated by the way). Will it be annoying for my kids to be across the county for a few years if it happens while they are still at the school? Yes. But most families at our high poverty, title 1 school don't have tons of after school activities that parents are rushing to, and parents or caregivers walk or drive to pick up their children now. Honestly, a long bus ride that's provided for free lengthens the free childcare provided by the school system, an option that isn't available to us now. My children are in extended day and the majority are picked up within an hour of when school is out. The bus ride may cover a lot of that time. I'm sure it will be challenging for some families who need extended day who don't have transportation to get to temporary school, so that's something that will need to be worked on/talked about. But it's definitely a minority of kids in our school who do extended day. I'd rather be solution-oriented than bury my head in the sand because of one concern.

I also think it's incredibly tone-deaf to go on and on about how overcrowded all of the nearby highly-rated schools to Nottingham will be. S. Arlington schools are already way more over-crowded with kids with many more academic, social, linguistic and economic needs. And are projected to be more so. And when the NW becomes more crowded again NES can transition back to a neighborhood school. Yes maybe it will take a few years after the need starts. Is that comparable to schools with huge renovation needs that are already overcrowded waiting 30+ years for a renovation? No.

You have an underpopulated school in your own backyard that no one wants to send their kids to because it’s full of FARMS kids. It’s one thing to choose overcrowding, another to be needlessly forced into it.

Despite your truly horrific comment, you are welcomed and free to choose to bring your child to any underpopulated school in the south. You are not being forced into a crowded school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent with children in one of the S. Arlington schools that hasn't been renovated since the 1990's I welcome this decision. It completely makes sense for APS to have a swing space, much like the Wilson school used to be (which was used back when Nottingham was last renovated by the way). Will it be annoying for my kids to be across the county for a few years if it happens while they are still at the school? Yes. But most families at our high poverty, title 1 school don't have tons of after school activities that parents are rushing to, and parents or caregivers walk or drive to pick up their children now. Honestly, a long bus ride that's provided for free lengthens the free childcare provided by the school system, an option that isn't available to us now. My children are in extended day and the majority are picked up within an hour of when school is out. The bus ride may cover a lot of that time. I'm sure it will be challenging for some families who need extended day who don't have transportation to get to temporary school, so that's something that will need to be worked on/talked about. But it's definitely a minority of kids in our school who do extended day. I'd rather be solution-oriented than bury my head in the sand because of one concern.

I also think it's incredibly tone-deaf to go on and on about how overcrowded all of the nearby highly-rated schools to Nottingham will be. S. Arlington schools are already way more over-crowded with kids with many more academic, social, linguistic and economic needs. And are projected to be more so. And when the NW becomes more crowded again NES can transition back to a neighborhood school. Yes maybe it will take a few years after the need starts. Is that comparable to schools with huge renovation needs that are already overcrowded waiting 30+ years for a renovation? No.

You have an underpopulated school in your own backyard that no one wants to send their kids to because it’s full of FARMS kids. It’s one thing to choose overcrowding, another to be needlessly forced into it.

Despite your truly horrific comment, you are welcomed and free to choose to bring your child to any underpopulated school in the south. You are not being forced into a crowded school.

+1. Notties can send their kids to any underpopulated school accepting transfers if Tuckahoe, Discovery and Jamestown are too crowded for them. And then they won’t have walk the dangerous streets of far north Arlington.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this doesn’t happen? Is there a theoretical plan B being circulated? I can’t bring myself to sift through 144 pages - but I assume the Nottingham supporters have suggested alternatives to the school board?

There is no plan B. Staff were squarely asked and this is their only plan. That tells you right off the bat the outcome was preordained.

Right. It’s a done deal. Time to move on.

No way. They were gung-ho for neighborhood at heights, and community discontent scuttled that terrible idea.

There is no need for closing NES. Simply split up the school under renovation for a year and bus THEM to the excess capacity schools. Then when we are done, we have updated schools ready for coming missing middle elem school boom.

[Anonymous]

Different time. Different administration. They are not going to cave to Nottingham. Just watch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How disappointing for the people living nearby who thought they were able to walk to school.

Yeah I don’t understand the glee in which people are so enthusiastic about closing a neighborhood school. This is happening because of APS mismanagement. Disappointing is the right word here.

How sad can they be when they’re still in walking distance of another school?

Not everyone is, and many of those who are have to cross major roads to walk to a different school. Including the road where three people died.

Crossing guards. Problem solved.

You seriously can’t brainstorm solutions to problems without saying “no” like a two year old?

Your personal life must be terrible. (Maybe that’s why you have time to comment on here every five minutes. Because no one wants to talk to you IRL. 😂)

And where are we finding the money to hire these crossing guards, when we can’t get enough to hire bus drivers or extended day?

Just remember that the same people in charge of solving these problems are hoping to make it a policy that new Syphax staff get 45 paid days off and have just asked for over six figures for new real estate when the majority of their employees are still working from home. I know where their priorities are and it’s not the safety of children.

Several years ago, Nottingham lost a crossing guard and APS refused to fund a new one. You think they're going to do anything about that now?

The Syphax plan is a disaster - they are planning on leasing more space even though they are providing some of their current space to outside organizations for free that they originally didn't need. So now they are going to pay additional money for additional space so they can continue free leases to these organizations? What kind of fiscal management is this? Especially when so much of the staff is still partly remote?

Crossing guards are hired by the County. They fall under ACPD.
The overriding problem is FINDING crossing guards, not willingness to fund them.

This. People just make up shit left and right. It's astonishing to me. APS has zero to do with your crossing guard.

Well the point still stands that Nottingham lost a crossing guard, tried to replace them, and couldn’t. Not sure why it matters who was responsible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this doesn’t happen? Is there a theoretical plan B being circulated? I can’t bring myself to sift through 144 pages - but I assume the Nottingham supporters have suggested alternatives to the school board?

There is no plan B. Staff were squarely asked and this is their only plan. That tells you right off the bat the outcome was preordained.

Right. It’s a done deal. Time to move on.

No way. They were gung-ho for neighborhood at heights, and community discontent scuttled that terrible idea.

There is no need for closing NES. Simply split up the school under renovation for a year and bus THEM to the excess capacity schools. Then when we are done, we have updated schools ready for coming missing middle elem school boom.

Why do something this simple when instead we can bus an entire school across to the furthest point in the county for two years and also rezone 6-7 elementary schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this doesn’t happen? Is there a theoretical plan B being circulated? I can’t bring myself to sift through 144 pages - but I assume the Nottingham supporters have suggested alternatives to the school board?

There is no plan B. Staff were squarely asked and this is their only plan. That tells you right off the bat the outcome was preordained.

Right. It’s a done deal. Time to move on.

No way. They were gung-ho for neighborhood at heights, and community discontent scuttled that terrible idea.

There is no need for closing NES. Simply split up the school under renovation for a year and bus THEM to the excess capacity schools. Then when we are done, we have updated schools ready for coming missing middle elem school boom.

Put yourself in the renovation school's position. You would gladly agree to scattering your students to whichever multiple schools happen to be under-enrolled for one or two full school years rather than split up one neighborhood school into TWO other known high-performing and highly desired schools nearby. Do you even hear yourself?!

Do you have any idea how that disrupts MULTIPLE schools, the transportation logistics, and the staffing implications? If this were your school community, you'd rather scatter to the winds, not have YOUR school community's events, break-up your teaching and admin teams, etc. for up to two years and then re-convene and re-create a cohesive community again?

You and your like-minded entitled cohorts never cease to amaze me. Just when it seems someone can't be more self-centered, you prove your mastery of narrow-focus, short-mindedness, and lack of understanding of how your world impacts anyone or anything outside your bubble. You are truly amazing. You sincerely have my upmost admiration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a parent with children in one of the S. Arlington schools that hasn't been renovated since the 1990's I welcome this decision. It completely makes sense for APS to have a swing space, much like the Wilson school used to be (which was used back when Nottingham was last renovated by the way). Will it be annoying for my kids to be across the county for a few years if it happens while they are still at the school? Yes. But most families at our high poverty, title 1 school don't have tons of after school activities that parents are rushing to, and parents or caregivers walk or drive to pick up their children now. Honestly, a long bus ride that's provided for free lengthens the free childcare provided by the school system, an option that isn't available to us now. My children are in extended day and the majority are picked up within an hour of when school is out. The bus ride may cover a lot of that time. I'm sure it will be challenging for some families who need extended day who don't have transportation to get to temporary school, so that's something that will need to be worked on/talked about. But it's definitely a minority of kids in our school who do extended day. I'd rather be solution-oriented than bury my head in the sand because of one concern.

I also think it's incredibly tone-deaf to go on and on about how overcrowded all of the nearby highly-rated schools to Nottingham will be. S. Arlington schools are already way more over-crowded with kids with many more academic, social, linguistic and economic needs. And are projected to be more so. And when the NW becomes more crowded again NES can transition back to a neighborhood school. Yes maybe it will take a few years after the need starts. Is that comparable to schools with huge renovation needs that are already overcrowded waiting 30+ years for a renovation? No.

You have an underpopulated school in your own backyard that no one wants to send their kids to because it’s full of FARMS kids. It’s one thing to choose overcrowding, another to be needlessly forced into it.

Despite your truly horrific comment, you are welcomed and free to choose to bring your child to any underpopulated school in the south. You are not being forced into a crowded school.

Drew. That’s all I gotta say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this doesn’t happen? Is there a theoretical plan B being circulated? I can’t bring myself to sift through 144 pages - but I assume the Nottingham supporters have suggested alternatives to the school board?

There is no plan B. Staff were squarely asked and this is their only plan. That tells you right off the bat the outcome was preordained.

Right. It’s a done deal. Time to move on.

No way. They were gung-ho for neighborhood at heights, and community discontent scuttled that terrible idea.

There is no need for closing NES. Simply split up the school under renovation for a year and bus THEM to the excess capacity schools. Then when we are done, we have updated schools ready for coming missing middle elem school boom.

Put yourself in the renovation school's position. You would gladly agree to scattering your students to whichever multiple schools happen to be under-enrolled for one or two full school years rather than split up one neighborhood school into TWO other known high-performing and highly desired schools nearby. Do you even hear yourself?!

Do you have any idea how that disrupts MULTIPLE schools, the transportation logistics, and the staffing implications? If this were your school community, you'd rather scatter to the winds, not have YOUR school community's events, break-up your teaching and admin teams, etc. for up to two years and then re-convene and re-create a cohesive community again?

You and your like-minded entitled cohorts never cease to amaze me. Just when it seems someone can't be more self-centered, you prove your mastery of narrow-focus, short-mindedness, and lack of understanding of how your world impacts anyone or anything outside your bubble. You are truly amazing. You sincerely have my upmost admiration.

Hi APS central office staff member! How’s Syphax these days?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this doesn’t happen? Is there a theoretical plan B being circulated? I can’t bring myself to sift through 144 pages - but I assume the Nottingham supporters have suggested alternatives to the school board?

There is no plan B. Staff were squarely asked and this is their only plan. That tells you right off the bat the outcome was preordained.

Right. It’s a done deal. Time to move on.

No way. They were gung-ho for neighborhood at heights, and community discontent scuttled that terrible idea.

There is no need for closing NES. Simply split up the school under renovation for a year and bus THEM to the excess capacity schools. Then when we are done, we have updated schools ready for coming missing middle elem school boom.

Why do something this simple when instead we can bus an entire school across to the furthest point in the county for two years and also rezone 6-7 elementary schools?

Because it isn't frickin simple. It's simple for Nottingham. Extremely complex for the school community being renovated, as well as for whichever multiple schools those children are temporarily scattered to....far more complex than it is for NES to split into two nearby schools and integrate into new communities with numerous fellow NES cohorts.