FCPS Skyview Boundary Revised Scenario 1 / 2

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All the other proposed maps in the other versions had Westfield with a more reasonable population-at least 23-400 students by pulling from Lees Corner, or Bull Run, or the Walney area, etc. This "final" map is the only one that dipped all the way down to @2000. I'm sure the Westfield people were taken aback by that.

Where were all the people thinking an enrollment of 2300 or 2400 kids is "reasonable" when FCPS was refusing to invest in other schools and downsizing them? If Westfield ends up with 2150 kids or so, it will still have an enrollment larger than nine other high schools, including Skyview.

The projection has it at only 2083, which is fewer than 2150, with the only MC neighborhood being rezoned lobbying FCPS hard to get out. There's no chance they add more kids in but based on the shenanigans so far, there's a likely chance they move kids back to Chantilly, which would leave them with 1900 or fewer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Westfield has a building capacity of over 3000. Leaving it at 1800 would be insane.

Could it be higher with rising 9th graders during the 2027-28 school year graders or no because of enrollment decline.?

It was around 2750 at the end of this school year. But Westfield parents have posted on here that well-liked 9th grade teachers are being destaffed and sent to other schools for next school year. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the kids opting in to Skyview for 9th next year are from Westfield. So next year Westfield will likely have a much smaller 9th grade class than its 10th, 11th and 12th grades, which will all be around 650-700 students.

Where has that been posted? I've seen some speculation,. It's just opt in coming year. I dont see how the drop would be thar extreme.

Where do you think the 500 Skyview freshmen are coming from? Logic suggests its from the school zones that everyone knows are being sent to Skyview-the Westfield parts of Floris/Coates/McNair, as well as non-sports kids whose parents think they are going to get an upgrade at Skyview vs. where their kids are now (schools seen as worse than Skyview-Westfield and SLHS). South Lakes PTA was given a specific number of opt-ins and it was pretty low; kids zoned for Chantilly and Oakton want to stay there, no one is driving their kids from farther out to Skyview. So logically (and based on what we know about de-staffs), most of the kids are kids who would be otherwise at Westfield.

Speculation on my part:
There have been Fox Mill posters on here that have indicated opting in. I'm guessing a handful of Oakton kids, too. I also guess there would be Herndon kids since so many choose South Lakes. I am also guessing Floris kids who have been assigned to South Lakes since Skyview is extremely close and offers AP. And, yes, i suspect there are many who would be assigned to Westfield.

I don't think people understand what an awful commute it is from Skyview area to Westfield. That, and the disconnect from the rest of the Westfield community is a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:200+ rising 9th graders opted to Skyview from Westfields boundaries. So instead of 680 freshman Westfield will have 480 freshman. That’s where a lot of the destaffs came from. They will continue and get steeper the next few years with the redistricting plan. All Westfields young staff and many assistant coaches will be sent away.

Where did you get this number?

[Anonymous]

Yes, I think the bulk of the Skyview class opt ins is kids who would otherwise be at Westfield this year, with much smaller numbers opting in from the surrounding schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the other proposed maps in the other versions had Westfield with a more reasonable population-at least 23-400 students by pulling from Lees Corner, or Bull Run, or the Walney area, etc. This "final" map is the only one that dipped all the way down to @2000. I'm sure the Westfield people were taken aback by that.

Where were all the people thinking an enrollment of 2300 or 2400 kids is "reasonable" when FCPS was refusing to invest in other schools and downsizing them? If Westfield ends up with 2150 kids or so, it will still have an enrollment larger than nine other high schools, including Skyview.

The projection has it at only 2083, which is fewer than 2150, with the only MC neighborhood being rezoned lobbying FCPS hard to get out. There's no chance they add more kids in but based on the shenanigans so far, there's a likely chance they move kids back to Chantilly, which would leave them with 1900 or fewer.

How would changes happen at this point? At the SB meeting, someone on the SB would have to make a motion to edit the map, which would have to win by majority, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:200+ rising 9th graders opted to Skyview from Westfields boundaries. So instead of 680 freshman Westfield will have 480 freshman. That’s where a lot of the destaffs came from. They will continue and get steeper the next few years with the redistricting plan. All Westfields young staff and many assistant coaches will be sent away.

Where did you get this number?

Yes. I did a search of this forum and found nothing from that post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:200+ rising 9th graders opted to Skyview from Westfields boundaries. So instead of 680 freshman Westfield will have 480 freshman. That’s where a lot of the destaffs came from. They will continue and get steeper the next few years with the redistricting plan. All Westfields young staff and many assistant coaches will be sent away.

Where did you get this number?

Yes. I did a search of this forum and found nothing from that post.

And, remember, Westfield boundaries do not mean just the Skyview area.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Westfield has a building capacity of over 3000. Leaving it at 1800 would be insane.

Could it be higher with rising 9th graders during the 2027-28 school year graders or no because of enrollment decline.?

It was around 2750 at the end of this school year. But Westfield parents have posted on here that well-liked 9th grade teachers are being destaffed and sent to other schools for next school year. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the kids opting in to Skyview for 9th next year are from Westfield. So next year Westfield will likely have a much smaller 9th grade class than its 10th, 11th and 12th grades, which will all be around 650-700 students.

Where has that been posted? I've seen some speculation,. It's just opt in coming year. I dont see how the drop would be thar extreme.

Where do you think the 500 Skyview freshmen are coming from? Logic suggests its from the school zones that everyone knows are being sent to Skyview-the Westfield parts of Floris/Coates/McNair, as well as non-sports kids whose parents think they are going to get an upgrade at Skyview vs. where their kids are now (schools seen as worse than Skyview-Westfield and SLHS). South Lakes PTA was given a specific number of opt-ins and it was pretty low; kids zoned for Chantilly and Oakton want to stay there, no one is driving their kids from farther out to Skyview. So logically (and based on what we know about de-staffs), most of the kids are kids who would be otherwise at Westfield.

I think about 1/2 of Fox Mill’s 8th grade class opted in to Skyview. South Lakes PTA was told 47 9th graders. The Floris and Fox Mill contingents at SLHS are pretty small, I think Fox Mill sends about 60 a year, there are JI kids who graduate from Fox Mill that are out of boundary so the actual number of 6th graders is different then the number attending SLHS.

I know Oak Hill families who opted in because they know younger kids are going to be there so it was esier for them. I think Floris had a bunch opt in. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the Crossfield families who are closer opted in. I know some kids who attended Hughes opted in but I don’t know from what school.

I know some of the Fox Mill JI kids at Westfield opted in to Skyview. I don’t know a ton about the Westfield families so I have not heard a ton about Westfield schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Westfield has a building capacity of over 3000. Leaving it at 1800 would be insane.

Could it be higher with rising 9th graders during the 2027-28 school year graders or no because of enrollment decline.?

It was around 2750 at the end of this school year. But Westfield parents have posted on here that well-liked 9th grade teachers are being destaffed and sent to other schools for next school year. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the kids opting in to Skyview for 9th next year are from Westfield. So next year Westfield will likely have a much smaller 9th grade class than its 10th, 11th and 12th grades, which will all be around 650-700 students.

Where has that been posted? I've seen some speculation,. It's just opt in coming year. I dont see how the drop would be thar extreme.

Where do you think the 500 Skyview freshmen are coming from? Logic suggests its from the school zones that everyone knows are being sent to Skyview-the Westfield parts of Floris/Coates/McNair, as well as non-sports kids whose parents think they are going to get an upgrade at Skyview vs. where their kids are now (schools seen as worse than Skyview-Westfield and SLHS). South Lakes PTA was given a specific number of opt-ins and it was pretty low; kids zoned for Chantilly and Oakton want to stay there, no one is driving their kids from farther out to Skyview. So logically (and based on what we know about de-staffs), most of the kids are kids who would be otherwise at Westfield.

I think about 1/2 of Fox Mill’s 8th grade class opted in to Skyview. South Lakes PTA was told 47 9th graders. The Floris and Fox Mill contingents at SLHS are pretty small, I think Fox Mill sends about 60 a year, there are JI kids who graduate from Fox Mill that are out of boundary so the actual number of 6th graders is different then the number attending SLHS.

I know Oak Hill families who opted in because they know younger kids are going to be there so it was esier for them. I think Floris had a bunch opt in. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the Crossfield families who are closer opted in. I know some kids who attended Hughes opted in but I don’t know from what school.

I know some of the Fox Mill JI kids at Westfield opted in to Skyview. I don’t know a ton about the Westfield families so I have not heard a ton about Westfield schools.

And, a small portion of Oak Hill was formerly assigned to Westfield (Emerald Chase). They had already been lobbying against being split from Oak Hill cohort. So, I am guessing a number from that area may have opted in.
I think there would have been more optins from Oak Hill had sports been an easier deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:200+ rising 9th graders opted to Skyview from Westfields boundaries. So instead of 680 freshman Westfield will have 480 freshman. That’s where a lot of the destaffs came from. They will continue and get steeper the next few years with the redistricting plan. All Westfields young staff and many assistant coaches will be sent away.

Where did you get this number?

Yes. I did a search of this forum and found nothing from that post.

And, remember, Westfield boundaries do not mean just the Skyview area.

Right, kids who are zoned to Westfield and will be staying at Westfield could be opting in to Skyview b/c its being marketed as a more academic option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the other proposed maps in the other versions had Westfield with a more reasonable population-at least 23-400 students by pulling from Lees Corner, or Bull Run, or the Walney area, etc. This "final" map is the only one that dipped all the way down to @2000. I'm sure the Westfield people were taken aback by that.

Where were all the people thinking an enrollment of 2300 or 2400 kids is "reasonable" when FCPS was refusing to invest in other schools and downsizing them? If Westfield ends up with 2150 kids or so, it will still have an enrollment larger than nine other high schools, including Skyview.

The projection has it at only 2083, which is fewer than 2150, with the only MC neighborhood being rezoned lobbying FCPS hard to get out. There's no chance they add more kids in but based on the shenanigans so far, there's a likely chance they move kids back to Chantilly, which would leave them with 1900 or fewer.

How would changes happen at this point? At the SB meeting, someone on the SB would have to make a motion to edit the map, which would have to win by majority, right?

Yes, I think this is correct. I don't think anyone on the current SB wants to go on the record as being for or against any particular area's desires, so any changes are a really tough sell. They are 1000% more likely to just accept the "final" map as a done deal. I don't think FCPS/Reid will change anything in the recommendations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the other proposed maps in the other versions had Westfield with a more reasonable population-at least 23-400 students by pulling from Lees Corner, or Bull Run, or the Walney area, etc. This "final" map is the only one that dipped all the way down to @2000. I'm sure the Westfield people were taken aback by that.

Where were all the people thinking an enrollment of 2300 or 2400 kids is "reasonable" when FCPS was refusing to invest in other schools and downsizing them? If Westfield ends up with 2150 kids or so, it will still have an enrollment larger than nine other high schools, including Skyview.

The projection has it at only 2083, which is fewer than 2150, with the only MC neighborhood being rezoned lobbying FCPS hard to get out. There's no chance they add more kids in but based on the shenanigans so far, there's a likely chance they move kids back to Chantilly, which would leave them with 1900 or fewer.

How would changes happen at this point? At the SB meeting, someone on the SB would have to make a motion to edit the map, which would have to win by majority, right?

Yes, I think this is correct. I don't think anyone on the current SB wants to go on the record as being for or against any particular area's desires, so any changes are a really tough sell. They are 1000% more likely to just accept the "final" map as a done deal. I don't think FCPS/Reid will change anything in the recommendations.

I'm pretty sure Meren will be making amendments. They won't pass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the other proposed maps in the other versions had Westfield with a more reasonable population-at least 23-400 students by pulling from Lees Corner, or Bull Run, or the Walney area, etc. This "final" map is the only one that dipped all the way down to @2000. I'm sure the Westfield people were taken aback by that.

Where were all the people thinking an enrollment of 2300 or 2400 kids is "reasonable" when FCPS was refusing to invest in other schools and downsizing them? If Westfield ends up with 2150 kids or so, it will still have an enrollment larger than nine other high schools, including Skyview.

The projection has it at only 2083, which is fewer than 2150, with the only MC neighborhood being rezoned lobbying FCPS hard to get out. There's no chance they add more kids in but based on the shenanigans so far, there's a likely chance they move kids back to Chantilly, which would leave them with 1900 or fewer.

How would changes happen at this point? At the SB meeting, someone on the SB would have to make a motion to edit the map, which would have to win by majority, right?

Yes, I think this is correct. I don't think anyone on the current SB wants to go on the record as being for or against any particular area's desires, so any changes are a really tough sell. They are 1000% more likely to just accept the "final" map as a done deal. I don't think FCPS/Reid will change anything in the recommendations.

I'm pretty sure Meren will be making amendments. They won't pass.

Why p!ss some of her constituents off for no reason?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the other proposed maps in the other versions had Westfield with a more reasonable population-at least 23-400 students by pulling from Lees Corner, or Bull Run, or the Walney area, etc. This "final" map is the only one that dipped all the way down to @2000. I'm sure the Westfield people were taken aback by that.

Where were all the people thinking an enrollment of 2300 or 2400 kids is "reasonable" when FCPS was refusing to invest in other schools and downsizing them? If Westfield ends up with 2150 kids or so, it will still have an enrollment larger than nine other high schools, including Skyview.

The projection has it at only 2083, which is fewer than 2150, with the only MC neighborhood being rezoned lobbying FCPS hard to get out. There's no chance they add more kids in but based on the shenanigans so far, there's a likely chance they move kids back to Chantilly, which would leave them with 1900 or fewer.

How would changes happen at this point? At the SB meeting, someone on the SB would have to make a motion to edit the map, which would have to win by majority, right?

Yes, I think this is correct. I don't think anyone on the current SB wants to go on the record as being for or against any particular area's desires, so any changes are a really tough sell. They are 1000% more likely to just accept the "final" map as a done deal. I don't think FCPS/Reid will change anything in the recommendations.

I'm pretty sure Meren will be making amendments. They won't pass.

Why p!ss some of her constituents off for no reason?

Because she will tick off other constituents if she doesn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the other proposed maps in the other versions had Westfield with a more reasonable population-at least 23-400 students by pulling from Lees Corner, or Bull Run, or the Walney area, etc. This "final" map is the only one that dipped all the way down to @2000. I'm sure the Westfield people were taken aback by that.

Where were all the people thinking an enrollment of 2300 or 2400 kids is "reasonable" when FCPS was refusing to invest in other schools and downsizing them? If Westfield ends up with 2150 kids or so, it will still have an enrollment larger than nine other high schools, including Skyview.

The projection has it at only 2083, which is fewer than 2150, with the only MC neighborhood being rezoned lobbying FCPS hard to get out. There's no chance they add more kids in but based on the shenanigans so far, there's a likely chance they move kids back to Chantilly, which would leave them with 1900 or fewer.

You're right that the projection has Westfield at 2083, not 2150. That's still higher than nine other high schools based on all the boundary adjustments adopted and proposed: Herndon, Marshall, South County, Falls Church, Annandale, South Lakes, Mount Vernon, Skyview, and Lewis.